Like tutorial or just showcase what 3rd wave can do or both?

@@infestedalienjust a showcase. I’ve watched all of your 3rd Wave videos at least 10 times! It’s something so relaxing about your format

You have crazy amount of possibility to create FX sounds on this thanks to the Analogue Prophet 5 filter followed into the digital SEM style filter and having 4 LFO and 2 Auxilary ADSR + Wavetable Envelope for each 3 oscillator. If this was not enough you have a huge mod matrix and above all the synth can be set up to 4 parts with 6 voices if you wish to make a super complex FX :) Of corse all synth are what they are which means they are all individuals and have different character. I have personaly not tested a Synthi AKS so I had to look it up on youtube. You gave me an idea that perhaps I should try out to make FX sounds on my 3rd wave :) Thanks for watching!

@@infestedalien hi yes make a video "special FX" i am watching all video on YT for this synth and it is only PAD & LEAD (boring) i would like to buy it but no video with FX thanks

@@cores303 Are there any special type of FX you are most interested in? Or just as many as possible?

@@infestedalien many as possible.... all type of FX thankssssss

@@cores303 This is a good video idea, I just started and realize that FX is something I need to get better at. So expect a video perhaps on sunday.

Thank you! The rev2 is very capable of making a wide range of sounds with some analogue goodness to it. I have recently discovered that most of the synths can make great sounds when we dial in the sweetspots. Thanks for watching!

When init patch on teo 5 then program / volume is set to 100 of 127. 110 is more near take 5. The mixer behaves a bit different on the teo 5. I'm very satisfied over both synths and really think they are different enough to be worth owning both if possible...

You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

Thank you! All sounds from digitone 2 yes. Teo 5 only serves as midi claviature in this video.

This comment can be answered in several forks as answers let's begin. And sorry I have no information regarding software. (lets speculate) 1. Software can impossible be the same even if they run on same ACB technology since you cannot load a System 8 firmware into a SH-01A or vice versa. 2. I bet the answer was a very easy answer since it would be confidentiental (company secret) to give out this information out from Roland. 3. Since they sound different then they are different but of corse the differences are minor so it's up to everyone to judge what sounds best since everything is subjective in the end. And here is my theory, but who knows the answer: Roland seem to have carefully modeled the SH-01A based on a ACB technology and made some tweaks here and there to have the old good sound but with some extra features. The users that want to stay as near the original as possible but to have nice features as Midi and easy patch management will regard this machine and many has sold their original SH101 for this! or ... put them as display objects while using this machine instead. I personally always pick this one as my favo 101.

@@infestedalien The support rep told me they both run on the same exact ACB model which is software. And of course the software can be the same in both machines. Its software. Ableton live works the same on every machine its loaded on. It might be slightly different to accommodate any minor feature differences not related to sound generation but the sound generation portion of it is the same ACB tech version. I am a software dev by trade for clarification. Maybe you didn't match them like for like? Not sure. Why would they have two different versions of the ACB tech for the boutique as they have in the system 8? You would think that would be a pain to manage having multiple versions of ACB tech for the SH 101 that are in production. Who knows though maybe they are lying to me. Im confused though are you playing the VST controlling it with the system 8 or is the sh101 loaded into the system 8 as a plugout?

@osands which one do you select then?

@@infestedalien I don’t know I don’t have the boutique to test for myself. I have the system 8 sh101 plug out only. I also have the sh4d and the system 8 sounds better than the one in there. But of course the sh4d is not using acb and has different filter topology maybe.

@osands It would be easier to have the sh01a to feel the difference ofc. However the system 8 over all is a very good machine. I personaly would love to see a re issue of that machine with multitimbrality and a more premium keybed. The sh4d seems like a nice machine and i remember they where hard to get for a long time. I hope you find a oportunity in trying the sh01a because its a nice experience!

I find this machine to be very good sounding. If to be picky then both Take 5 and TEO 5 are not as dynamic sounding as a Prophet 5 / 6 and OB6 but these machines are capable of so many more sound design options. The 5 voices are ok in most cases but it would definently have been nicer with 8 :) Thank you for watching!

Yeah i love it. Easy to get lost for hours when tweaking! Thanks for watching!

Its so fun and you where right of the workflow, whats not to love? You mean instagram?

@infestedalien yes Instagram :)

Havent fixed one yet, i guess yours are in your channel description right?

@@infestedalien @error_kit let me know when you're in ;)

I totaly agree with you since I also got an OB6! Worth to know is that Take 5 and TEO 5 are awesome thanks to the mod matrix but it's important to know that they are not as characteristic as the Prophet 5/6 and OB6 / Obx8. TEO5 and Take 5 tends to feel a bit missing on the lower end. However! If we see the both synth for what they actually are and do not compare to the giants then both TEO5 and Take 5 can create soo much sounds that the other ones are not even close to produce. The possiblity on the TEO and Take feels almost unlimited and they are lot of fun to program. The double LFO makes a big impact on sound design. My only wish now is to have the same synth but with the Trigon 6 filters! :)

About the Take 5 and the TEO 5. Do you prefer one over the other? I still can’t decide which one to get. I hope you will share your thoughts. Thank you.

@@vliggie I will try my best to describe my feelings regarding owning both of them. Keep in mind that that I also got an OB6 and Prophet 6 and I would say you have the same decision issues there of which is more prefeered over the other. Ok let's begin with the TEO-5 and Take-5. If you have good skills in programming sounds then I think the Take-5 is the best choice since you have more flexibility with the 24db filter there. If you enjoy cool sounds on very little effort then I belive TEO-5 is the nice choice. Another way to see it is like this. If you like "dirtier sound" then TEO-5 is a better choice since Take-5 produces a more clean sound. On the programming part of view I do enjoy Take-5 more thanks to octave switches and the pitch knobs can easily be set to 7 semitone up or down. So this is hard to sum up, perhaps it's easier to say that TEO-5 has the oberheim sound and if you like that it's what you want and the Take-5 has the more of a prophet sound. It's very hard to say I love them both very much, I would go for the TEO-5 for electronic music like EDM and ambient but the Take 5 also do the job very well :) I hope this was helpful! And remember the 12 dB filter can feel limiting in some ways compared to the take-5 24-db self oscillating filter....

@ Thank you for your reply. Much appreciated!

@@vliggie You're welcome! To be honest it's a very hard choice. And I guess we always want the other one also...

Its easily one of my favourite!

@@infestedalien same here!

Its soo dreamy! ❤

Thank you for watching! I also love my Trigon and it's something extra indeed! I do the same as you watch / listen to synths while I work. When it comes to reverb on Trigon, Prophet 6, OB6 it's perfectly normal that the reverb is not good or let's say as rich as on other synths. When it comes to the drop it's not clear how hard you dropped it or soft. As an ensambler in the electronic industries I think you can feel safe that your internals of the machine should be ok. I think the drop need to very hard to run into issues and that would of corse reveal more as a damage on the outside I belive. Just imagen how many shocks the synths are involved during their transport from delivery when it's inside a box altho the machine is packed in a way that it absorbs the forces but that is a mechanical shock in it's own right also :) However when it comes to sequential and reverbs I want to point out that the internal reverbs are even better on the Take 5 and TEO-5. Reverbs are one of the things we can hunt in eternal for a better one but it all comes down to simulate a room and there are no right or wrong just what suits best for artistic style. I have so many VST reverbs and I tend to use them in different areas so it's always hard to get fully satisfied!

@@infestedalien Yeah it seems weird that only the reverb would be effected, but even at max settings I don't feel like I realllly hear the reverb, and it decays fairly fast... Which is a bummer cause I love playing with reverb! Other than that this thing is a dear friend and I love the sounds! Including what you've done here :)

@@eusterbro Thank you! I run the reverb as a VST in Cubase. It's seems nice to have a good reverb pedal that supports stereo. I'm a bit curious over Strymon Nightsky reverb. The trigon 6 is my savior from forcing me to buy Moog. I think moog has something in their own sound but it's not worth to have to manually turn in the presets. It was enough for me to have a doepfer modular and now it's mostly collecting dust since I don't feel for making presets and repatch them etc..

Yeah I was very lucky with the stock replenishment at thomann. Love this synth so far 😍

Agree! The trigon 6 is to me the most used bread and butter synth while pro 3 touches area thats impossible on the other synths. The trigon 6 ladder filtet sounds very different compared to the pro 3 ladder :)

Thank you for your kind words and valuable feedback! I'm happy to hear that you picked up a Gaia 2 and find it good! I agree with you that it takes time to fully understand a synth by exploring it for real use of music production. What I find remarkable of Gaia 2 is that it fits so well for digital pad sounds that should be a bit more sci-fi sort of. It's also nice to make arpeggios on it thanks to the snappy envelops and the filter puts the sound in a nice place in the mix! I'm planning in doing some more videos of sound creation / exploration when my job has calmed down a bit :). Thank you for watching, have a good time in the studio and stay well!

You're welcome! I hope you're having a good time with your Gaia 2. I can update you with the information that this is still a non-replaceable synth and I feel that it has a very unique place when it comes to pads for ambient. Even my flagship 3rd wave (wavetable synthesizer) cannot even touch on some of the sounds from this machine. This is unique as all other synths are :)

Thank you! The take 5 is deep with the mod matrix.

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Thank you! Its a very versatile machine, and might be powered with a coconut 🥥😅

Thank you! I love the form factor and how snappy the ADSR and LFOs are :) thr mod matrix makes the machine super fun and long lasting

Nice VST in a box.

​@@arakaneumandude, wtf

Nice! Have you tried to use the step sequenser as mod source? Its very fun!

@@infestedalien Not yet, but I certainly will!

Thank you! The pro 3 is so fun and friendly with complex patches.

Thank you! After I've been using the trigon for some deeper music production I can say this is a nice "must have" for EDM and electronic music overall. I agree there are so many nice synths this decade. For me I think the take 5 and TEO-5 are very interesting even if they are some what "budget" analogue machines. If sequential will release a new revision of the prophet 12 I'll be very poor for a long time :) I can say that after having some VCO based machines the desire of hybrid with digital oscillators and analogue filters is alot welcome.

Thank you! The pro 3 is a very fun machine and the most valuable mono synth from a creative point of view!

After a more serious use of this instrument I can confirm that it fits very good in mixes, interface is so clean which makes tweaking sounds a pure joy. The one knob per function philosophy is super handy for creativity!

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Thank you! I've been using my synths now for music creation and I can only say that Trigon 6 is the best analogue poly I've ever used for moogish sounds. Wish I also had a minimoog tho :) but this is the best for the money in my opinion for a fast workflow.

@@infestedalien Speaking of Moog, my fondest wish is for the upcoming Moog Muse to have the same voice architecture as the Memorymoog with newly manufactured Curtis chip filters but with modern supporting features to compete with the new vintage-cloned Oberheim OB-X8 and Sequential Prophet-10.

I'm also curious over the new moog. But I don't see any synthesizer compete with each other since crafting an instrument makes them all unique in their sound. It''s impossible to pick one favourite since all has their strengths and disadvatages.

Thank you for watching!

In the demo i forgot to set it to mono but i play one voice each press only difference is that it cycles the 6 voice cards in trigon 6. Its not the most scientific comparison and can be made more advanced yes.

You must be lucky to have a GAIA version 1 :) They are cool!

Thank you! This is my humble opinion about them three. The Trigon 6 is my favourite because it fits my current music which is electronic, trance and psytrance ambient etc. And also since it has way greater flexibility with 3rd oscillator that can be used as extra modulation source and still have 2 osc left for audio. Also the filter can be set in 24 db and 12 db slope. The prophet 6 is the most versatile and the most cleanest / purest in sound but it comes with a price which would be that its not as fun as the Trigon 6 or OB-6 but hell yeah what beautiful sound the Prophet 6 can do! The OB-6 is very well suited for "special" sounds but it's strictly limited in what you can acheive compared to the prophet 6 and trigon 6. I would say it's well suited for sci-fi vibes and the state variable filter really grabs the harmonics in a pleasent way. I'm very excited for testing the Oberheim TEO-5 in future as an owner of the OB-6 i'm curious how that machine will be different from the one I already have tried out. Here is a filter "dirtyness" ranking from 1 being most able to do dist and "warmth" sounds. 1. Trigon 6 2. OB-6 3. Prophet 6 However, you can't go wrong with any of them since they are soo nice! The only thing to keep in mind is that due to their nature of signal path, the lack of a mod-matrix can make them feel a bit locked but the polymod is very nice and you can make many cool sounds with them! However, their sound are super pure on the other hand! :) Let me know if you have any other questions!

@@infestedalien thanks for your answer! What about prophet 5/10?

Also to mention. My use case is writing music for film and TV. I already own a Moog Matriarch (just got it) and tons of amazing software. Just thinking hardware might add something special

You're welcome. Prophet 5 is different compared to prophet 6 in the way it has a different filter while prophet 6 is a new filter inspired from prophet 5. It's a mono synth without internal FX but according to me it sounds amazing. Even if there is proven that you can make a P5 and P6 sound almost identical in some areas the outcome can also be very different in some perspective thanks to it's prophet 5 filter and also it can be switched between rev 2/3 4 mode. Also an important point is that Polymod on the P5 offers more assignable level which can make a big difference. I have not tried one personally but it's tempting to get one.

Matriarch is a good machine and the analogue delay sounds very good. Not sure what could be a good pick in that case... Prophet 6 is definently worth testing out. But honestly it's very hard to say what can be something that falls in taste. It's all subjective.

Sorry for a very late reply. I have not considered selling my patches.

Thank you! Its a fun machine right?

This machine is worth trying out!

That question is a bit tricky for me to give a good answer to for the reason I have not used my GAIA 2 enough to get a full picture of it. However If i should describe the GAIA 2 how I feel interacting with it then I can say that the filter is not what I am used to on other synthesizers. It feels smooth and unique to be a digital synth. I would say that it can create many nice sounds but it's not always leading to a direction I expect it to go but thats not a bad thing more of a character of the synth itself. What you are asking now is basically the reason why many end up with owning many types of synthesizers over the years. I think the best thing to do is to search youtube for more videos of it on others patches and listen to factory patches i guess...

It's possible to create cool distorted sounds on the Trigon 6. But of corse you won't get identical Roland TB303 sounds since it's not that synth or filter. I really love how the Trigon 6 sounds!

Thank you! Ok let me take this from what i would miss and why i am keeping them booth. Pro 3 first here we go. Since its a mono it got a signal path made to go from kind to very overloaded this gives alot of character. Mod matrix is crazy which makes me never tired. The 3rd osc as wavetable adds the extra. Sequenser can act as step modulation source. However... the paraphonic is a fun thing with quircks that can be exploited for fun voice rounds. Pro 3 has sort of clear sound character if wanted which is not the same on trigon 6. Now for the Trigon 6, well beside of being a poly it's to me as close as we can get a moog that i wanted all my life that is stable and wont break the bank. I think the trigon is a good candidate for a more pure transistor ladder analogue poly. Ultimately compare your ob6 and pro3 if you feel limited with the ob6 when comparing then you will certainly miss your pro 3... hard choises yes... what do you think of novation summit? Kind of curious over it. Once had a peak but sold it to afford a car purchasr some years ago....

@@infestedalien thanks a lot for your thoughts. I sold the Pro3 once already - 3 years ago and when I got it back last year, I was blown away by its sound and fun to programm. Summit has one of the best Library tools and it is free. Not like the expensive soundtower for sequential which is a nightmare to use. Summit sounds very hifi, has one of the best internal FX and has very good and intuitive user interface. Multi layer is easy to use, filter and oscillators sound great. There is some menu diving but it got lots of features so its ok. Faders are a bit cheesy because of its size and plastic material.

@@nicogrubert The pro 3 is a unique mono and i am getting more addicted to it. Thank you for the honest reply on summit. I miss the unique filter character from the novation indeed.

It all depends. I see the System 8 as a workhorse since it's very good implemented in DAW with plug-out. However you will need to buy the plugouts or use a Roland cloud subscription to get them as VST for DAW in order to bounce between hardware and VST. With that said the System 8 is undubtlable the best between them when it comes to efficiency. On the other hand the GAIA 2 is in its own league since it has one wavetable oscillator that is really nice. It's hard to say which one is the best it all depends on budget and what you need.

I once looked at waldorf but never tried them. There is alot of sounds you can get out of a GAIA for that price tag. Unfortunantly I cannot pick one favourite only since it all depends on what sound I'm looking for. When it comes to wavetable I love the Groove synthesis 3rd wave. But it's a machine with a higher price tag since it's packed with alot of voices which makes it a machine that brings alot of good possibility.

Its an amazing machine!

Analogue synths are by their nature able to be driven in signal path. Transistor ladder filter charachter is a bit distorted compare to the prophet 5 filter. SEM-Filters are medium in distortion. I think in the video i was a bit to brave with the synths mixer and sequential are also pure tone as well.

Minimoog is nice classic but cumbersome to deal with in music production to swap between patches. I went with Trigon 6 instead. But of corse minimoog has alot of emotional connection and iconic look and feel.

Sorry for a very late reply, thank you so much for showing interest in my patches and the kind words. I have unfortunantly not being considering selling patches tho.

Thank you! And I promise you that I only scratched the surface on what this machine is capable off! :)