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@PURPLESHAPE
@PURPLESHAPE Күн бұрын
I absolutely loved playing the new Riven 2024 re-release <3 I think the changes made to the game were amazing (I personally had trouble with the new numbering system, but it made sense for them to have added it considering the lore and the culture) I am really glad that you made a video highlighting the most amazing feature of the CyanWorld's series (other than monorails) Riven & Myst hold near and dear to my heart they're the only games that I've actually been able to play through and beat I am going to have to try and revisit Exile III & Myst IV: Revelation I probably am not going to play Myst V End of Ages until after I finish reading the three novels because I want to fundamentally understand the D'ni culture through the novels first I'll probably make a KZbin video about that if I have the time or patience <3 but I wanted to take the time and thank you for making such an inspired and love filled video Regarding Riven I mean the Elevators
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 8 күн бұрын
In the Riven remake things have changed, including elevators. Maybe you should do a follow up video containing the differences as well some thoughts on the elevators in Uru and it's two expansions: To D'ni and Path of the shell.
@doctorwhat3683
@doctorwhat3683 8 күн бұрын
This is what KZbin was made for.
@Lyarrah
@Lyarrah 9 күн бұрын
not watching this right now because I don't want the spoilers, but leaving you a comment anyway because this is the first time I've felt like my reccommended really "got" me
@hobog
@hobog 10 күн бұрын
Myst made me into an elevator foamer and aficionado of blue backlighting
@mr.papaveraceae3009
@mr.papaveraceae3009 10 күн бұрын
This is an .... interesting list.
@njpf34
@njpf34 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for this, you beautiful soul😊
@NerdCoelho.
@NerdCoelho. 18 күн бұрын
Real love, hahahaha
@kalkstein2694
@kalkstein2694 22 күн бұрын
this is an completely batshit crazy video and I absolutely love it exactly for that reason
@kayeplaguedoc9054
@kayeplaguedoc9054 22 күн бұрын
Ahh, that's the KZbin content I've been looking for
@smythsonianisback4190
@smythsonianisback4190 23 күн бұрын
You forgot Uru.
@SimberLayek
@SimberLayek 24 күн бұрын
You said you wouldn't count trapeze, but you included the plant with the trapeze.....
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
What I meant was the leaf was the elevator. I mentioned the trapeze for context because it brings you down after the leaf brings you up, but I didn't mean for it to be part of the ranking.
@SimberLayek
@SimberLayek 22 күн бұрын
@@dustingarner3571 o7
@UncleThor
@UncleThor 25 күн бұрын
The "woman" you see after the golden elevator is known as one of Gehn's scribes, and it is actually a man.
@noatrope
@noatrope 25 күн бұрын
Excellent! I haven't made a ranked list about it, but I wrote up a silly "roll dice to make a device Atrus would build" game that amounted to "Generator, Tape Recorder, Clock, Lock, or Elevator". (Or you could roll Feature Creep.) :D
@noatrope
@noatrope 25 күн бұрын
As far as Uru goes, I don't know if you knew, but Cyan gave up trying to keep it running officially some years ago and released it as open-source. You can play it for free if you wanted to - I can't remember any particularly exceptional elevators (a lot of them are pretty basic, similar to the D'ni shaft elevators), but there are several more hexagonal ones with assorted sneaky tricks to them in Kadish Tolesa, and technically, by the rules you established at the beginning, I think Eder Gira would have forced you to say a geyser is a kind of elevator. :D
@imjustsomeguy72
@imjustsomeguy72 26 күн бұрын
Perfect list. Golden Elevator is legit the only environmental visual in all of OG Riven where, after playing new Riven, I went "eh, it looked better in the original"
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
There's something about the anticipation and the way the light shines off the gold that wasn't transmitted to the new one.
@imjustsomeguy72
@imjustsomeguy72 24 күн бұрын
@@dustingarner3571 It's so much creepier in the FMV too, like it's this glistening golden death Tardis that gloops out of the liquid with that ominous little twirl it does. Gehn in his Midas wannabe phase. Makes you wish they had the original film still, I really just want that remastered to 4K.
@robertobryk4989
@robertobryk4989 27 күн бұрын
IIRC the balance puzzle in Amateria told you whether you were too heavy or too light, and thus allowed it to be used to figure out the weight ratio in something like 2 or 3 tries.
@t71513
@t71513 27 күн бұрын
Technically the Golden Dome Elevator is two different elevators that run on a single track
@indnwkybrd
@indnwkybrd 27 күн бұрын
Do you have to push the button to ride the tree elevator on Myst Island down to the room with the Channelwood book? I don't remember doing that; I would always just turn the gas completely off, then run out behind the cabin & hop on when it got to ground level & let it take me the rest of the way down.
@TheJacklikesvideos
@TheJacklikesvideos 27 күн бұрын
i have a fondness for phrases i'm confident have never been spoken before, such as "unlike the fulcrum puzzle i discussed two elevators ago..."
@TheJacklikesvideos
@TheJacklikesvideos 27 күн бұрын
strong disagree with your definition of "good puzzle design" and the steam puzzle elevator. subverting mechanical expectations is what makes MYST puzzles a good challenge. it reminds me of the levers in the clocktower 221 combo puzzle where the measure of intelligence is how long it takes you to figure out you're not pulling the lever correctly leaving the puzzle unsolvable. if you could swear you've got it powered but it isn't working, you should try using it differently. similarly with your next complaint about relevant information being elsewhere. typically these puzzles are solvable on their own, but much easier if you pay attention to things in other areas. this rewards paying attention and holistic thinking. consider the directional chimes used in both the fortress and minecart. the minecart is designed well so it can be navigated and solved even if you haven't been to the fortress. but if you do them in the other order, it essentially shortcuts you through the minecart by saving you the process of deductive logic, but only if you pay attention.
@TheJacklikesvideos
@TheJacklikesvideos 27 күн бұрын
but i definitely understand the emotional scarring and personal grudge of the particular puzzles that you get hung up on.
@TheJacklikesvideos
@TheJacklikesvideos 27 күн бұрын
peak internet
@hecosean
@hecosean 27 күн бұрын
Curious about if the Riven Remake recently released, the trapeze elevator might qualify now. It now has a platform you get on. Which might make it meet your criteria.
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
I will be making a follow-up video discussing the elevators in new Riven. There are at least five new ones (yes, including the gallows), and all of the others have interesting changes from the originals.
@Ephisus
@Ephisus 28 күн бұрын
I guess you and I can be buds.
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
I guess so
@RavenMethil
@RavenMethil 28 күн бұрын
What a wonderful nerdy video I loved to put an hour in! In defence of the Seam Puzzle Elevator: The lever looks different than the other two levers, as it has this additional metal rod/handle at the side. So there is at least somewhat of a hint, that it might work differently.
@scottw6704
@scottw6704 28 күн бұрын
I remember buying my first computer in 1997, getting to understand the internet and getting hooked on AOL (and the chat rooms) but I wondered what else was out there. I went to the local computer store to get some sort of program on CD-ROM (Microsoft Office, I think) and saw this selection of games. I've always liked logic puzzles, deductive reasoning, exploring and drawing maps of places I've been, and enjoyed reading mysteries, trying to solve the puzzles before the protagonist in the novel. I saw the cover of "Myst" and it sounded just my speed, didn't seem like a game where I'd have to shoot everything into oblivion. A little island with interesting little places to explore. I never imagined there would be a sequel, but when I discovered that Riven existed, my imaginative world completely opened up. Now 27 years later, here I am watching an analysis of the elevators in the whole series. The Millers' collective minds have been my solace all these years. When Earth gets to be too much for me, I go to the realms of Myst...
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
There's just something so magical about the games. They really take you to another world.
@Mystery_Tramp
@Mystery_Tramp 29 күн бұрын
This video really elevated my mood.
@maddy8594
@maddy8594 29 күн бұрын
I have loved the Myst games for my entire life, and it's nice to see a breakdown of one of the most interesting facets of their design. Also, I agree with you that Riven still looks absolutely gorgeous.
@mastermaniac1911
@mastermaniac1911 Ай бұрын
Riven is one of the best games ever made. Easily at least number five on my personal favorite games list. For reasons.
@ironmagma
@ironmagma Ай бұрын
I've been a Myst fan for decades and some of these didn't even register as elevators.
@craigm5713
@craigm5713 Ай бұрын
Finally someone did it. Always wondered no-one rated the elevators in myst. Thank god.
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
It had to be done
@pedazodeboludo
@pedazodeboludo Ай бұрын
Would kill for a remaster of Myst III: Exile... not likely to happen though. But man, riding the marble coaster in VR would be amazing!
@Ultracity6060
@Ultracity6060 Ай бұрын
Not surprised my two favorites are in the top three (fire hydrant easter egg?), and the sing-song squeak of the door to the watchtower elevator is forever burned in my memory. But disqualifying the wahrk gallows right out the gate? Heartless!
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
NEW RIVEN SPOILERS SPOILER ALERT On the bright side the new Riven has a wahrk gallows that would make the list. (And yes, I will be making a follow-up video where I talk about the elevators in Riven 2).
@mitchellradspinner4491
@mitchellradspinner4491 Ай бұрын
now this is good content
@Derpmind
@Derpmind Ай бұрын
Conclusion: Riven!
@n-razm
@n-razm Ай бұрын
I had the exact same problem with the steam elevator in Myst 3. It feels so validating to hear someone else complain about such a specific thing lol.
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
It's very infuriating
@jadegecko
@jadegecko Ай бұрын
53:50 let's not forget the little kid in the jungle, probably the worst jumpscare in the series
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
I had a random thought the other day that there should be an easter egg in the new Riven that happens incredibly rarely: when you're walking into the jungle there's a chance that you happen upon the little girl, except instead of a 3D rendered character, it's the creepy video of her from the original. She's the only real human in the game.
@jadegecko
@jadegecko 24 күн бұрын
@@dustingarner3571 oh god yes. It's funny, because nothing specific about it says 'scary,' but I absolutely jumped out of my skin.
@rhinctus
@rhinctus Ай бұрын
got so excited seeing this video suggested, really good!!
@bruce1947
@bruce1947 Ай бұрын
Nice video! Brings back so many memories. Riven's golden elevator remains one of my favorite moments in gaming history.
@zazander732
@zazander732 Ай бұрын
This is the kinda content we need right now. Thank you.
@hoxton_hummingbird
@hoxton_hummingbird Ай бұрын
Here after finishing the Riven Remake and I'll have to say, it's so great to be back in the series! Exile was my favourite game, because it was the first one I got to play and somehow understood what was going on.
@vektheartist
@vektheartist Ай бұрын
I was wondering where the classic Myst Observatory Tower elevator would go! Discovering that one was very satisfying along with the tree elevator. Now you have to do one with all the rides/vehicles. I personally would put the classic Selenetic Mazerunner at #1 as long as the ride is I love some of twists and turns and the speeds it goes towards the end😂🙌🏾🔥
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
Wow, you may be the first person that I've heard praising the Selenitic mazerunner. I'm not promising a vehicle ranking, but it did cross my mind.
@vektheartist
@vektheartist 24 күн бұрын
@@dustingarner3571 I’ll be honest…I did NOT have the headache that most had when I played it. I had the Prima Strategy Guide that I would read all the time (mostly because The Stranger had a cool backstory and narration in there). Still have that mazerunner directional sequence in my mind. 🤣🤣
@StreetSurfersAlex
@StreetSurfersAlex Ай бұрын
This is great!
@diamondlanguage
@diamondlanguage Ай бұрын
Engaging, interesting, and fun! Yep, I watched the whole thing and would do it again
@FransLebin
@FransLebin Ай бұрын
Gehn's Great Golden Elevator has always been weird to me. Sure it's pretty, but why is is so extravagent? Why is the inside of it so shabby looking?
@Ava_Hofmann
@Ava_Hofmann Ай бұрын
i think i would put the channelwood elevators lower than you did, purely due to the fact that--unlike most elevators in these games--you have to manually close the door to these elevators in order for them to work. that detailed caused me problems similar to what you experienced with the steam puzzle elevator when i played through myst.
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
Understandable. You have to close the door to the Library Tower Elevator on Myst Island too.
@alasanof
@alasanof Ай бұрын
Most of these elevators feel like dangerous safety violations. I'm sure each of these have injured someone at least once.
@SardonicSays
@SardonicSays Ай бұрын
Wonderful all around! Though I would argue that the Bird from Edanna is effectively an elevator, in that it takes a person from one predefined location to another predefined location, mostly vertically. Similar to the leaf but grander and with more of a path. It's kind of mindblowing the level of detail the ages are written to if you think about it. Or rather if you believe the worlds exist before they are connected via linking book out there in the Myst multiverse, how vast the multiverse must be to have this kind of required interaction be a natural consequence of random evolution, then cherrypicked by writing the linking book with something written along the lines of "There must be a bird that carries a cage from the lowest part of the gigantic tree, to its nest in the upper reaches". It's a deep shame we haven't seen these kinds of things explored more fully in the Myst universe. It's an ocean of possibility if you think about it.
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
If I included the Bird, that would mean I would also have to include the Riven maglevs, the Riven minecart, the Amateria ball, etc etc. That's why I defined the elevators as I did, as platforms that mainly move up and down. I'd probably include the bird in a vehicle ranking video (that I'm absolutely not promising to make). I completely agree with the breadth of the linking concept, it's fascinating.
@SardonicSays
@SardonicSays 24 күн бұрын
@@dustingarner3571 Ok but for real, a vehicle ranking would be rad
@MattGiuca
@MattGiuca Ай бұрын
Incredible analysis. I love how you took such a goofy concept and made a real deep look at gameplay/story overlap and character moments. From memory, there are only about 4 elevators in the whole of Uru and I don't think any are particularly interesting. There's one (Gahreesen) that I would notably put at the bottom of the entire series because in the multiplayer version it had a tendency to dump you into the floor and force you to start the whole age from scratch, repeatedly until it luckily worked every so often.
@davidtavernas3167
@davidtavernas3167 Ай бұрын
I don't know anything about Myst, but this is a really COOL video!
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@keiyakins
@keiyakins Ай бұрын
There's... at least two new elevators in Riven 2024. (The gallows is one one of them)
@dustingarner3571
@dustingarner3571 24 күн бұрын
I'm almost finished with the game, and there's at least five! And not only that, every one of the ones that were in the original have some notable differences. I will be making a follow-up video.