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@BurhanHalilov
@BurhanHalilov 2 күн бұрын
Amazing no-nonsense video ! Thanks!
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 6 күн бұрын
I've got all of Dan's stones. But I don't have that one.
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely love this stuff. My friend I've got a pile of stones. No jnats .This one would be a great start.
@zimingtim4405
@zimingtim4405 22 күн бұрын
I just bought a Tajima as well. The seller offer me two options,an Aizu or Tajima,same size around 2.3kg,good looking stone,but he recommend Tajima over Aizu so i trust him. What he said is Tajima would be more versatile as a medium stone following synthetic 3000 grit
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 19 күн бұрын
Following 3k Tajima is probably better, but I do prefer the aizu by a long shot or a nagura after it over the Tajima. Hope yours serves you well!
@Montekos86
@Montekos86 22 күн бұрын
Splash n go, not soak n go. Nice stones tho have the king already ,need one natural
@RobertPascale
@RobertPascale 23 күн бұрын
Great video to learn the basics about Jnats and Jnat terminology 👍🏼 Thank you!!
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 23 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@RobertPascale
@RobertPascale 23 күн бұрын
@ Got pulled away for a bit today but I’ll finish this tomorrow as I’m currently in a Jnat deep dive! Lol
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 25 күн бұрын
One of those would be a nice addition to my collection. Where can I go to buy a jnat?
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 19 күн бұрын
You can find a list of some sellers on my website
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 26 күн бұрын
Of all my stones i don't have any jnats.im not a straight razor guy. But I would love to have one for my knives
@markodams5857
@markodams5857 26 күн бұрын
Is that the red cashew laquer?
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 23 күн бұрын
It is called no 48 which is more amber than red
@markodams5857
@markodams5857 23 күн бұрын
@@naturalwhetstones I need some here in the United Kingdom but don’t think it’s possible.
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 Ай бұрын
I've got Norton and Dan's Arkansas stones but this is totally different. Gotta get into it
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 2 ай бұрын
I've got a king 800 and 6000. Really love both
@morehn
@morehn 2 ай бұрын
My jnats are getting brittle and bumpy by the edges. I don't soak them in water, but that's worse than I expected. I didn't lacquer them yet. Do you think that's the issue?
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 2 ай бұрын
Yeah probably, seal them up and then keep the chamfer fresh.
@morehn
@morehn 2 ай бұрын
@naturalwhetstones you don't seal the top, right? I still love my jnats, and I can't wait to sharpen more of my knives with them. I'm recommending them to all(both of them) my friends. Do you like European stones for any reason? I was thinking of getting the Water of Ayr and Vermont, plus a jnat finishing.
@morehn
@morehn 2 ай бұрын
Can you recommend the best stones I might want for a polished edge for a high carbon steel 440c Western knife with a grit equivalence of 12k+? Is shohonyama the same thing as honyama? My finishing stones right now are a Thuringian and Green and Black Shadow. Is the Black finer than the Green? It seems like I've seen conflicting information on them.
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 2 ай бұрын
Polished edge for sharpening right? A fast JNAT Honyama for sure. Yes, Sho-honyama and honyama are used interchangeably now adays. I think current stock green are technically higher grit than black shadows but iirc once upon a time that wasn't the case. Tbh they have always been very close in performance where most people would fail a blind test imo, black is softer always. Generally you just want a fast Honyama for your needs, like a 3/5 - 4/5 stone which self slurries a little and a cut test shows dark black swarf. Idk what hardness you are talking here but all naturals will struggle above 64-65 hrc, though I find Arkansas stones have the most legs there as you can put a bunch of pressure on them.
@morehn
@morehn 2 ай бұрын
@naturalwhetstones my higher grit finishing stones are orhira uchigumori, shohonyama Nakayama, green and Black Shadow, black Thuringian, Black Arkansas. I was thinking of getting a La Lune and Vermont slate, but I really love the grippy, velvety feel of the jnats. My knife is a high carbon, 56-58 Rockwell, 440c steel. Of the above, which would you think should be my last step finishing stone that will give me the best kasumi finish with no perceptible teeth? I thought the black or green might be the highest grit, but I really want a jnat for the last little bit. And I'd buy another jnat if you think my best finisher is one of the Europeans. I'm in love with the jnats.
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 2 ай бұрын
Lots to learn
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 2 ай бұрын
I've got every Arkansas stone they are.looking to get into it. ​@naturalwhetstones
@swapnilmule3922
@swapnilmule3922 2 ай бұрын
Maker of that nakiri?
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 2 ай бұрын
Nakagawa
@trickedouttech321
@trickedouttech321 3 ай бұрын
WTF is wrong with you, that one can of Cashew Lacquer could do 100 stones. That was a waste like I had never seen before. You have no clue what you are doing. JMHO if you truly want to do with it, watch this video. he does it more like I do. I was trained by old-timers as well, kzbin.info/www/bejne/eofTY595mqeVm7c
@Mooseracks
@Mooseracks 3 ай бұрын
Where does one get those Stone dresser plates
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 3 ай бұрын
The diamond plate is called an Atoma 140, many shops online sell them!
@Doodle-.Snoozel
@Doodle-.Snoozel 3 ай бұрын
been a bit since you have posted, hope you are doing well.
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I haven't forgotten about the channel and still answer questions but life has been busy and difficult. Someday I will come back, sorry!
@subsidized2778
@subsidized2778 3 ай бұрын
I live in Southern indiana and found a box of hindostan stones in an auction box. They were so black from oil I assumed they were just cheap carborundum. But after a week of multiple soaks in simple green i saw the lines on the side. What an interesting history.
@zenrazor659
@zenrazor659 4 ай бұрын
😂 These stones are overpassed
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 4 ай бұрын
?
@morehn
@morehn 4 ай бұрын
I just got my Tanakatoishi Aoto hard today from Bernal Cutlery on your recommendation and excited to use it tomorrow
@morehn
@morehn 4 ай бұрын
Do you have any opinion or knowledge of Indonesian sharpening stones?
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 4 ай бұрын
Ive never used them first hand but I know people who I trust who have. They seem worth skipping.
@morehn
@morehn 4 ай бұрын
@@naturalwhetstones okay, thank you. I guess I'll skip that one. Can you please advise me if you would recommend anything else in my inventory? For a Victorinox high carbon steel knife Rockwell 56, these are the stones I have: Arkansas soft, hard, black Belgian Blue 611 and 910 Belgian Coticule 212 Green and Black Shadow Aoto Tanaka Toishi hard Shohonyama Nakayama Ohiro Uchegomori Nakayama nagura I'm very new to jnats and natural stones, so there's a lot that I'm trying to learn. Am I missing any steps of what you would recommend in terms of a good sharpening progression for a knife? My goal is to get a perfectly smooth finish, and I like a polished finish but it really just needs to be perfectly smooth to the touch when I run it along my fingernail such that I shouldn't feel any bumps.
@morehn
@morehn 4 ай бұрын
What is the difference between a stone that's good or bad for a razor vs knife?
@morehn
@morehn 5 ай бұрын
Do you know about Masamotoyama Nakiryumyaku Kyoto? I see a stone with that label in Japanese but I think the seller doesn't know what it is, and I don't see that word on your site, which is super helpful otherwise.
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 4 ай бұрын
There is a lot of mistranslation in there. Masamotoyama is a mistranslation of Sho-honyama. Guessing the second one is a mistranslation of Narutaki, the Kyoto area.
@morehn
@morehn 4 ай бұрын
@@naturalwhetstones wow, thank you
@morehn
@morehn 5 ай бұрын
Why do you say the Green and Black Shadow are not ideal for knives but are good for razors? What's the difference between knives and razors that you differentiate them altogether?
@morehn
@morehn 5 ай бұрын
I just used my Nakayama Awasedo Shohonyama for the first time last week and was finally able to get my mirror polish. It's my first jnat and I am in love with the velvety grip. It is such a pleasure to use. I have some Belgians and now my first jnat, but I think I want to start getting more. I probably have more use for medium refining and finishing, even though the synthetic low grit stone I have feels gross to use. It's like I'm scratching my knife against the sidewalk and hoping it'll help it somehow. Is the velvety feel a typical jnat characteristic?
@lundysden6781
@lundysden6781 5 ай бұрын
Im a geologist in the NE. I know of a large variety of stones you may be interested in. If your interested let me know. BTW Earth's rotation was faster back in time, days were shorter! About 18hours during the dinos. Anyway, shoot me a message. I have un cut Ordovician age, very fine sand/silt stones that are very consistent. I only have about 10 of them.
@SawyerAbruntilla
@SawyerAbruntilla 5 ай бұрын
Nothing to do with Hindostan stones but on your website you have only Vermont green slate listed, and there is actually three different kinds of whetstone in Vermont and potentially novaculite schist. The three being Vermont green slate lamoile stone which is a more aggressive version of chocolate or Lisbon pike, and a small deposit of Magog on the southern shores of the lake.
@user-pm7pw1tl3t
@user-pm7pw1tl3t 5 ай бұрын
So people develop allergies against tree sap...but not the cashews?!
@nonamebear1136
@nonamebear1136 5 ай бұрын
Have you seen a Hindostan with orange and grey with some speckles? I have just gotten a stone and it seems to work with your descriptions, but the layering isn't as obvious as some of your stones. The one you said was called orange was a course range. This one is on the upper range, it could almost be a razor finisher; not quite though. Thanks for the great information. It was well presented.
@nisamvise1724
@nisamvise1724 5 ай бұрын
where did you get the stone if you dont mind me asking?
@nonamebear1136
@nonamebear1136 5 ай бұрын
@@nisamvise1724 It was an ebay find. It was all covered with oil, so couldn't see what it fully looked like.
@DrunkDrynasty
@DrunkDrynasty 5 ай бұрын
Whoa. I ate a weed gummy and somehow went from googling “make dull knife sharp” to end up here - learning how to sharpen and hone razor sharp blades like Hattori Hanzo with $500 natural Japanese Nakayama Jnat stones. Great informative video! 🤙
@DrunkDrynasty
@DrunkDrynasty 5 ай бұрын
Whoa. I ate a weed gummy and somehow went from googling “make dull knife sharp” to end up here - learning how to sharpen and hone razor sharp blades like Hattori Hanzo with $500 natural Japanese Nakayama Jnat stones. 😮
@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 6 ай бұрын
I love the look of that tsushima nagura. It reminds me of a khao men thai stone that I have. Have you used one of those before? how does it compare with the tsushima nagura?
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 5 ай бұрын
Nope sorry I have not!
@slothsarecool
@slothsarecool 6 ай бұрын
Why is a stone cut into a block so soothing 😮
@nikobobich9726
@nikobobich9726 7 ай бұрын
I heard a lot of people have been using the mountain cashew laquer they sell now is just as good as the japanese cashew look into it if you havent already
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 7 ай бұрын
I have heard of it, yes.
@nikobobich9726
@nikobobich9726 7 ай бұрын
@@naturalwhetstones I figured out that I just need a 400 and 1200 tsuboman atoma and to use the 400 for flattening and 1200 for the fine stones and natural stones for slurry I can even use the 1200 on a 1000 soaking stone.. I think this is the best way to do it because the 140 is just way to aggressive. The 400 with the handle is perfect for post lacquer too with the mountain cashew
@thaicheongcheah9623
@thaicheongcheah9623 7 ай бұрын
thank for the information! i am very new to japanese natural stone ,but now i think i got a wrong one…
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 7 ай бұрын
Happy to help, why do you say that?
@thaicheongcheah9623
@thaicheongcheah9623 7 ай бұрын
@@naturalwhetstones thank you for reply!Because i got 2 tsushima ,one is a normal looking tsushima,it got a kanji at the side that said it is tsushima ,and the performance is the same as what you said。then i got another tshshima,this one look nothing like that, its has some natural stone pattern at the side and the back(i buy this tsushima because of this,because its look more natural and beautiful compared to the other one that almost look like synthetic stone),them after i use it feel so strange because it feel more finer but not too much compare with my other tsushima,and it has 2 toxic mineral line。 i dont know if i just got a wrong stone or its just a lower quality tsushima,it would be very helpful if you can help me out! thank you!
@thaicheongcheah9623
@thaicheongcheah9623 7 ай бұрын
@@naturalwhetstones but both are black in colour,and i naver saw other black jnats ,the only black jnats that i know is tsushima,but i am very new to this so maybe i miss something. thank you for the reply!
@nikobobich9726
@nikobobich9726 8 ай бұрын
some people are cutting a line down the middle of their nagaras for suction is that safe im trying find out but nobody says anything.. they use a hacksaw for a very small groove (1 sixteenth inch) and use the edges of diamond atoma stone to round it off and smoothen it down the middle of the nagara. They are doing it with their synthetic nagaras also and using the same synthetic grit nagara on the synthetic water stones for slur (tomo nagara) supposedly the suction makes a better slur. Is this true? Have you tried it? Can anyone confirm this theory? Tomo's are by far the best way to medicate and dress any stone even synthetic stones if you can. It is how they did it even back in the samurai days on stones.. Tomo's (pieces from the same natural stone or even the same stone grit on synthetic water stones) creates the slur how its supposed to perform. Supposedly the samurai's in theory thought tomo's were the way also. I love your VOD's bro keep it up man they are very good
@nikobobich9726
@nikobobich9726 8 ай бұрын
Im a huge fan dude keep up the good work you are very very informative!!! I have a few questions for you if you don't mind? I bought an ohira tomae Jnat from a friend that works at a cutlery out here in LA called Yoshihiro. He Had a rare red one that has red streaks on the top, bottom and sides he said it was the rarest one he had. I trust him ive done a lot of business with him. Im new to naturals as you can tell. I have 2 atoma tsuboman's with handles the 140 and 400. First question is which of the 2 would you use for flattening and leveling this stone? Second question is I bought some watco laquer they have 3 brands in spray a satin and 2 other ones for sale. I bought the satin one is that safe to spray on this stone in 3 coats? Last question is after I seal up this stone is it safe to soak it like my cerax stones until the bubbles or a bad idea to get better performance out of it. I just do not want to mess this stone up I love it already. Please let me know
@nikobobich9726
@nikobobich9726 8 ай бұрын
actually it was the clear wood brand not the satin my mistake*
@nikobobich9726
@nikobobich9726 8 ай бұрын
They have rustoleum clear gloss maybe that one might be better
@herbertgearing1702
@herbertgearing1702 8 ай бұрын
Food grade mineral oil works great and doesn't smell or go rancid.
@herbertgearing1702
@herbertgearing1702 8 ай бұрын
I also wipe my stone every few minutes and lay down a bit more oil.
@herbertgearing1702
@herbertgearing1702 8 ай бұрын
I really enjoy sharpening on my washitas. I tend to use very light pressure and I have a wide variety of washitas from very fast to several that are very dense and pass light almost as well as a translucent. They produce a nice knife edge especially with antique carbon steel and if I need to take it to a more refined edge I move to one of my translucents. I own a couple of black arks but for me the deciding factor is my ability to see the steel removed on the translucent and the fact that I can't see the difference in the edge between black and translucent.
@minchogaberov6271
@minchogaberov6271 8 ай бұрын
Very good language : ) Thank you!
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Doodle-.Snoozel
@Doodle-.Snoozel 8 ай бұрын
What is the new video going to be about?
@renew4267
@renew4267 8 ай бұрын
With the arkansas stones you can use a mixture of dishsoap & water if you don't want to use oil.
@Jnatseu
@Jnatseu 9 ай бұрын
Will have to buy and try.
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 8 ай бұрын
They are interesting!
@Gennady11111
@Gennady11111 9 ай бұрын
Здравствуйте, я для ножей использую Бинсуй, Айзу, Охира Сиро Суита Ренгэ, и еще у меня есть красный редкий Иромоно Что еще можете посоветовать из мягких камней для ножей???
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 9 ай бұрын
Seems like you already have a good range. A nagura to bridge the Aizu to Awasedo gap could be good, an Aoto could be interesting if you are just sharpening. Without knowing your goals or is hard to really suggest something though.
@andreasjonsson8075
@andreasjonsson8075 9 ай бұрын
Can you post a link for that plate that you have your stone holder on? Thx.
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 9 ай бұрын
Do you mean the blue looking frosted glass? That is something built into the counter top.
@jue28
@jue28 9 ай бұрын
Hii may I know what knife were you using?the brand and model . Thanksss
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 9 ай бұрын
Hitohira petty made forged by nakagawa
@jue28
@jue28 9 ай бұрын
150mm?
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 9 ай бұрын
@@jue28 Yes I believe so
@piecetoyou8285
@piecetoyou8285 9 ай бұрын
dude, I envy you guys over there , it cost the British buyer silly money to get some quality stones shipped over here,
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 9 ай бұрын
Yeah US subsidizes shipping a lot which helps
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 9 ай бұрын
How are the natural stones constructed? Like the mint chocolate one looked like it had beautiful amber wood sides and a mint chocolate frosting. When I see Finnish natural sharpening stones like phyllite, it's that grey, slightly shiny and with some patterns depending on the cut, somewhat homogenous slab of stone.
@naturalwhetstones
@naturalwhetstones 9 ай бұрын
The stone you are talking about is called an Ikarashi, it is a type of igneous (volcanic) rock which is primarily silica but also has other minerals in it (resulting in the color). It has dendritic formations which are the black specs. The sides that are amber are lacquered. Sounds like the Finnish stones you are talking about are likely something akin to slate.
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 9 ай бұрын
@@naturalwhetstones Thanks for the reply!