I respect your opinion, but I know enough to speak on the topic. I appreciate all of the contributions that SRNAs and CRNAs have made and continue to make within our field.

Yes. You have to work a lot but I’ve seen it happen pretty frequently

Multiple CRNAs have told me that the ICU experience has little to no significant benefit in the anesthesia world. By the time of graduation, everyone has a grasp on those things very well.

Not true. Most CRNA schools I’ve seen have accepted applicants with the bare minimum of 1 year of ICU experience (and that’s including their orientation where they aren’t even on their own yet). I know someone who got accepted to CRNA school with only 6 months of ICU experience lol. Pretty scary. Also, I hate when CRNAs try to use the “we were ICU nurses before going to CRNA school.” Because I was also an ICU nurse who went to CRNA school and let me tell, just because you are titrating drips and stuff like that, you aren’t the intensivist making all the critical decisions for these sick patients. You are the NURSE following the orders that are put in by the actual doctors, yanno the intensivists. So you’re not critically thinking as much as you think you are because ultimately the decision isn’t up to as the icu nurse and it shouldn’t be either. Unless you went to medical school, you shouldn’t be an independent provider. I was in CRNA school and withdrew because my program was so disappointing in the education. My undergraduate anatomy and physiology before nursing school was harder than my CRNA school program’s anatomy and physiology. I was also one of the top students in my class, my program director was actually shocked when I told her I was voluntarily withdrawing. CRNAs should NEVER be independent anesthesia professionals. Unless you go to medical school and complete an anesthesia residency and actually do the work to become an independent practitioner, you shouldn’t be independent. At least, AAs are waaaay more honest about their role and even admit they need to work alongside of a physician anesthesiologist because they don’t have near the training a physician anesthesiologist does.

@@Nicole20397 what a beautiful reply. Awesome

@@Nicole20397 I never once said in my comment that I think CRNAs should be an independent providers lol. Don't be a hater and I have a feeling you never were a ICU nurse.

@@Nicole20397 so you are telling me that you dropped out because it was too easy? and you felt that the schooling wasn't going to prepare you enough? did you make it to clinical at least? and what specialty of ICU did you work in and how long? Did you feel comfortable as an ICU RN before you left?

The crnas do more than the docs. The docs are there for induction and that’s it. I followed both and left the doc to go be with the crna. Crnas should get whatever. They are better experienced than a CAA

Hey! As far as the name change I feel that the patient’s deserve to know who has the ultimate medical-legal liability in regards to their patient care. There are CRNAs who have PhDs and are non MD/DO doctors. However the Anesthesiologists often (not always) supervise CRNAs/AAs and are responsible for any issues that occur under their care. IMO to say you’re the Anesthesiologist assumes that you are ultimately medical-legally responsible for a patient’s care which usually isn’t the case if you’re a CRNA. I enjoy working with my CRNA colleagues, and I’m not against AAs expanding the number of states in which they practice @lauraacosta793

@@toyarj37An anesthesiologist and CRNas scope of practice will vary from practice to practice. The business side says that an Anesthesiologist can supervise 4 CRNAs and have the practice be paid at a decent rate. The Anesthesiologist also does pre operative examines, helps to manage the order of cases, and are responsible for all the cases they’re supervising. Doing the cases in the OR is way easier (IMO) than being outside of the OR and keeping things moving lol

A lot of programs only require the GRE

Although they and others are likely just as capable of perusing/attaining a medical doctor degree, not everyone wants to be an MD. People have different goals, and that’s okay. Some people want to be apart of the medical team, but don’t necessarily want to be the physician.

Didn't feel like doing 4 years of med school + residency. Like 30+% of my class got accepted to med school

You missed the concept of herd immunity. Herd immunity is the idea that if enough people are immunized to a degree against something at a given time then the odds of the thing that they’re immunized against to spread to other people who are vaccinated and aren’t vaccinated is low. It’s like having a bunch of cops in front of your house and having an armed suspect try to get in. It could happen, but tue odds of something happening goes down significantly