Excellent rig! Did you consider outriggers and decide against them, or were you just aiming at a ‘hike out’ system for your boat? Thanks.
@keithmorris43046 ай бұрын
I have a set of mini "flying" outriggers, but don't always use them, preferring to hike out when necessary. In more exposed and boisterous conditions such as very large lakes/lochs and coastal waters, the use of outriggers is more appropriate, especially as I'm getting older and less agile/resilient.
@globyois6 ай бұрын
@@keithmorris4304 Thanks for the info.
@rogersyme13689 ай бұрын
Superb! What sort of sail are you using there bro?
@keithmorris43049 ай бұрын
It's a custom one-off made to my design spec by a really good sail-maker local to me here in England. But the design is very similar to the rig used on small dinghies such as a Topper, Laser Pico or many of the sailing canoes by Solway Dory.
@fala258711 ай бұрын
Very nice video which shows what to do sailing canoe in gusty weather. Interesting for me was that the canoe has only one (sterboard) dagger board from one side. W i t h o u t the external float devices the shown manouvre (crossing the wind line) while a sudden wind guest and decreasing canoe speed in rotation without loosing sail , it could make canoe capsize. May be it would be better not to tack but to increase ballasting, slightly going to guest line, alternatively ease the sheet .
@richtourist Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Congratulations. I'm aiming at the same sort of thing but coming from the dinghy sailing side rather than the canoing side.
@Canoesailor Жыл бұрын
Lots of wind there!
@robhosailor Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks ❗
@MikStorer Жыл бұрын
The best demonstration video yet.
@stuartsutherland7664 Жыл бұрын
Exciting stuff!
@tizziejames9040 Жыл бұрын
Canoe sailors seem to go out on days when most other sailors stay indoors!!
@leegosling Жыл бұрын
Looks lovely. Hope a good time was had by all!
@keithmorris4304 Жыл бұрын
Lee, it was one of the best. Conditions were so good the lake wasn't big enough to last the day! So we back-tracked to take in the extra café stop.
@robhosailor Жыл бұрын
Beautiful sailing and great event indeed ❗❤️🌟
@andrewwhitby9154 Жыл бұрын
Useful comments included for one like me who is considering adapting my canoe like this. Thanks.
@alanjaljenc9772 Жыл бұрын
this is the F1 of canoeing because one gust of wind will have you trying to pull a sunken canoe from the lake bottom
@fala25872 жыл бұрын
Very nice and inspiring canoe sailing reportage. Bravo for you all !!!
@barrydavies29772 жыл бұрын
Looks like you had a great time. Especially good sailing in the lee of the island and the final sail to keyhaven.
@semirecumbentoneYT2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful wooden handcraft! How did you protect the wood? Epoxy or oils? If you may want to share, what's the best way to maintain the light wooden surface texture and at the same time protect it well for years to come? I use birch tree (layer board) but still haven't figured out a good way to maintain it's beautiful surface with hardest possible protection.
@keithmorris43042 жыл бұрын
I use Danish oil to protect the wood as it is easy to maintain by adding a coat when needed.
@phillange1662 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Well-filmed-/no wind noise---and edited-/subtitles that are easy to read and left up long enough to read.
@stuartsutherland76642 жыл бұрын
Great video Keith! Did you inform the coastguard that you were sailing round the IOW?
@keithmorris43042 жыл бұрын
No we didn't, Stuart. There is so much activity on the water in the Solent area that the CG would be overloaded with info if everyone told them what they are doing.
@Canoesailor3 жыл бұрын
Epic!
@Romin.7773 жыл бұрын
Smart setup, me likes yes.
@jwvb60893 жыл бұрын
Can you give me advise were to place the mast? The total length of my canou is 5 meters.
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
Where to place the mast depends on a number of things and not just the total length of the canoe. What rig do you have? Where will you be mounting the leeboard? What seats and thwarts do you already have in the canoe? Often it is convenient to mount the leeboard mount on the centre carry yoke/thwart if it has one. And to mount the mast just behind the front seat, if the canoe has one and you intend to leave it in place during sailing if you wish to keep the tandem paddling option as well.
@johnrobert61273 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t of thought the shallow banks would of made much difference to a canoe. Great video though. Thank you for up loading. I’m thinking of semi converting my canoe to sail now
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
Shallow water and large breaking waves do not make for a good combination! In nice light wind conditions I love that a sailing canoe can go across shallow water and through gaps that other sailing craft would avoid.
@johnrobert61273 жыл бұрын
@@keithmorris4304 yes now you say that it does make sense as the sides are not too high. But yes they can go so many places. I love the idea of having a boat that is so portable and flexible so it can be changed from a sail boat to a paddling/row boat How stable it it with out the out riggers? Would you say they are very necessary?
@IntegralKing3 жыл бұрын
wow, this thing is amazing. It's not just a conversion, it's a real and full blown dinghy
@Beowulf-sd5gh3 жыл бұрын
tip for people who are intimidated by all the rigging: if you use a simple sprit sail, you can have only one haliard to worry about and a very easy setup. You loose a bit of performance but its a lot less trouble ;)
@keithmorris4304 Жыл бұрын
This rig doesn't even have one halyard, it's mostly controlled by a sheet like all sails. Ok, it also has an outhaul and a downhaul, but a spritsail needs those as well.
@travelbywater93783 жыл бұрын
Fantastic sailing. I can't believe how many big sailboats are moored on that lake, must get busy in the warm weather.
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
Thanks. There are many large sailing yachts on Windermere, but the sad thing is that not many actually get used very much, so it rarely gets as busy as you would expect.
@adventureswithdipsy3 жыл бұрын
Superb! I really like how you’ve integrated proper dinghy components to create a much more durable and professional set-up. I’m amazed that you are able to sail with a spinnaker/gennaker up without needing outriggers for stability! Do you have to limit the wind range you deploy the spinnaker in, or is it for purely deep downwind sailing, where stability is less of an issue (but oscillation then comes into play)? I also noticed your sailing number on the sail - is registration a legal requirement on inland UK waters?
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, Robin. The spinnaker/gennaker is really something to play with just in light winds. I do have "gull-wing" outriggers that I use in stronger winds and more exposed, challenging conditions, such as along the coast.
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
No, registration is not required on UK waters for sail craft ( it is for power boats on some). The sail insignia and numbers are for the occasional racing we do - but fairly light-hearted and for fun.
@robhosailor3 жыл бұрын
Great sailing! Beautiful video!
@lingerslongest3 жыл бұрын
Great motivating vid. I'm still dreaming about getting the 44 sq foot (4.1 square metres) SD Bermudan Rig with all the bits and pieces.
@annaheya21093 жыл бұрын
What better place to canoe than in Lake District 🛶
@adventureswithdipsy3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Clearly you’re getting excellent sailing performance from your rig; the speed over the water in this video is very impressive! I am currently thinking about investing in a Solway Dory Bermudan rig, to fit to my Old Town Appalachian 16. Is this rig of yours a standard Solway Dory set-up? The bridle system you are using for your mainsheet, with the A-frame yoke, looks like it works very well. If you have any details elsewhere on how you set your rig up (and what components you used) I’d be very interested to hear about them!
@OpenCanoeSailingGp3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments, Robin. My rig is not from Solway Dory but similar. I made it myself. I rigged the spars from anodised alloy tubes and standard small dinghy fittings. I had the sail made to my spec and it's 6 sq m, so larger than SD ones and suits my large canoe well. The inverted V sheet bridle is a fairly common version on many boats, especially canoes, as it can pull the boom towards the centreline but minimising downwards pull. For more details see this page and the linked video - www.ocsg.org.uk/members-boats/keith-morris/
@adventureswithdipsy3 жыл бұрын
@@OpenCanoeSailingGp Keith - many thanks for your reply and the link - very helpful indeed! We are planning a trip on the River Bann in Northern Ireland from source to sea this summer, and a large section in the middle involves transiting Lough Neagh from south to north - almost 30 miles of open water. There’s also huge potential for a sailing rig like this in the elongate loughs in County Fermanagh, where paddling the open reaches is very slow and exposed. I also noticed your comment on using outriggers for sailing offshore. As a former sea kayaker, that’s of interest too - and opens up another whole world of possibilities!
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
@@adventureswithdipsy I'm a former sea kayaker, too - amongst a few other boating interests. You should have a look at the video I made of going round the Isle of Wight. You have some great sailing your side of the Irish Sea! I've done a little, but should be back sometime for more.
@charliehitchen52633 жыл бұрын
Great video, Keith. There is something about seeing a canoe sail which always warms my heart.
@IainAhh3 жыл бұрын
Good trip and video. You looked like you were getting about pretty good. What size of sail do you have?
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
It's 6 sq m, but I didn't use all of it some of the time.
@mikeu53803 жыл бұрын
Hi from Japan. Just fitting out my Old Town 169 for summer sailing. Appreciate seeing how you rigged your leeboard, but am wondering how you attached your rudder... I am loath to put any screws into the hull. Thank you!
@OpenCanoeSailingGp3 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for your comments. You can see much more detail about how the rudder is fitted on this video -(it does have discreet but effective fittings screwed into the hull) kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJbbnIuInqlssM0 (see 4:20) But there are other ways of fixing a rudder, like I did on a previous canoe with a strap-on cowl, which others have also made. Have a look at the "Members Boats" pages on ocsg.org.uk for more ideas. www.ocsg.org.uk/members-boats/keith-morris/
@mikeu53803 жыл бұрын
@@OpenCanoeSailingGp Thank you so much for your generous reply!
@andrewharmon79293 жыл бұрын
That was really enjoyable! I am working on my second canoe rig.
@baot.57703 жыл бұрын
Did you make the outriggers yourselves? Could you tell us about its dimensions. Thanks.
@OpenCanoeSailingGp3 жыл бұрын
No, not made by me. Available commercially from Solway Dory Sailing Canoes.
@philhewett16013 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@UguysRnuts3 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd come up with the best way to rig a spraydeck utilizing the full length lacing I'd already installed, but your system offers solutions to problems I was encountering, especially in regards to the edging. I improvised a polythene tonneau during a rainy trip and improved upon it by leaving tongues of plastic to tuck under the lacing every 6 inches. I rolled a 4" length of 1/4" pvc pipe into each tongue as a kind of button to secure each behind it's corresponding lacing. Simple and effective, I planned on reproducing it in some yellow nylon reinforced PVC fabric I had laying around but wasn't happy with leaving the irregularly shaped sides unfinished. Your straight sides eliminate the problem. Wonder if the snaps protruding presents an issue along the gunwales?
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
The snaps (press studs) don't present any problems as they don't protrude much, only a few mm and the shape of the gunwhale partly provides a little protection. This is the second canoe I've fitted with such a splash deck, so I knew it would work.
@bullwinkle7343 жыл бұрын
Certainly you know this but can't help mentioning that the near-jibe/capsize at approx 5:30 is not from some random gust. You're going around that tall rock of a headland and there is always a venturi effect accelerating the wind past such features. No doubt you've all experienced it 'in the seat of your pants' in spots like that.
@bullwinkle7343 жыл бұрын
That's at approx 3:30.
@lingerslongest4 жыл бұрын
Inspiring video ! I was thinking of rigging a mast and sail from an Optimist to turn my Old Town Discovery 158 into a sail boat so when my project is more advanced I might be asking for some advice !
@RayGoodwinCanoe4 жыл бұрын
Very useful re the leash. Thanks
@emilianoalvarez71914 жыл бұрын
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@callmebigpapa4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this great video!!!
@ilyafaden17894 жыл бұрын
Talk about Zen.
@MrBeracah4 жыл бұрын
How is your sail when partially reefed prevented from further unrolling from mast please. Thank you
@MrBeracah4 жыл бұрын
Hi what is your full sail area and the length of your canoe please. Pleas ignore my ignorance but how did you reef your sail please. Thank you
@keithmorris43043 жыл бұрын
My sail area is 5 sqm and the canoe is just over 5.5 metres long. The sail is reefed by furling it around the mast - this process is seen in the video at 13 and 17 mins ( sorry it's taken so long to answer your questions - only just seen them!)
@Outlaw-Dashing3 жыл бұрын
@@keithmorris4304 if you don't like their comment they will never see your reply give him a heart or a like .
@Zaku1864 жыл бұрын
This is really really really really nice. i know odds are you will never see this vid but i want to copy this setup if i can find all the parts and pieces. i dont have much wind and i do have strong rivers so i think the only way im gong to be able to get into canoe sailing is if i have an optimized sail canoe and i keep my gear light.
@adamf.48234 жыл бұрын
More of a paddling sailboat really . . . I dig it.
@johnmoore52934 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video!
@laquardamak23144 жыл бұрын
Good job!
@motooilermotooiler95975 жыл бұрын
10/10 - excellent job on this craft. no wonder it cuts through water like razor! best Ive seen so far. congratulations on the well thought out design.
@keithmorris43045 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for your comment, much appreciated! I've made a few more minor mods to the canoe/rig since this video was shot, but it's basically just the same. I was sailing on the Firth of Clyde a few weeks ago, beam reaching for a couple of miles at 6,7,8 knots - maxing at 9.3, with no tide to speak of: so pretty fast for a canoe!
@motooilermotooiler95975 жыл бұрын
May I ask how do you furl the main sail??? Do you rotate the mast?