I thing the 1100 is better looking

Do you use a real guitar amp or the FRFR?

chains all that shittery love it

Personally , I don’t like the Hi-cuts. Why? They also reshape the midrange and can totally f with your tone.

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OMG yes! The evh sounds just like my real evh and the new soldano cab rules. I have never used the cabs and always IRs but that has changed now

Ya sounds a lil louder im really loving the Panama red , i just purchased a 5150 stealth 50 and they match as well as expected hope you have a happy holiday season my friend and remember " happy wife , somewhat bearable life " keep rockin Mr Jonny

I think the last couple releases are giving a preview teaser of what Helix 2.0 will bring. I agree the new amps and cabs sound and feel different (and much better IMO) than most of the originals. It's as though they have developed a new software algorithm for modeling and they are beta testing it with these small updates to OG Helix before introducing the new and improved hardware and software package that we all assume is coming.

Did anyone else notice in the release notes that a couple of the new cabs (Ben Adrian ones) were "captured?"

Love it mine has 40000 and still going strong just run in

I own this amp also and it is definitely the best sounding and most versatile solid state amp I have ever owned or heard. I link 2 of the footswitches and I can control all 6 switchable things.

I tried to message Line 6 about this on their amps a while back (they were replying to FB comments at the time). I was having to use an EQ or compressor after to boost it up to a suitable recording level into the DAW. Its also janky in that my medium output single coils on the strat had digital clipping.. I'd engage the pad in global and it still clipped, there were workarounds but I couldnt get those chimey clean tones easily. That seems to have been fixed in the last update.

Is there any Popping noise? When or everytime you switch between volume pedal mode to wha pedal mode (vice versa)??..

This was helpful. I was surprised to see the Kinky boost and a verb between the amp and can. That was new to me and after A/B checks...it's really good. Do you do this for cleaner tones? Do you have videos for this subject for cleaner/edge of breakup tones? I'll look for that.

How does it sound clean?? Do chords bend cleanly like a whammy 5?

Great little review. Ive chopped mine in for the 6R as it was just too obscene. The 6 makes me work for it, revs are up, your up and down the box etc. And its still stupid fast for us mere mortals in all reality. But the 10 was just ridiculous. So over the top, brilliant in its own way, but im not Dean Harrison. I cant be going at 100+ everywhere and its not even braking a sweat.

Im a 24yo and i just bought one :)

Quilter!!!❤️ My favorite amp ever

Cruise control?

This video is so good it’s ridiculous! Thanks mate!! Lifesaver

how do I get this on the line 6 amp?

Meeeerrrrrci beaucoup.

Agreed; I noticed something was different with the 2203. Much more organic sounding. Straight away I didn’t need to tweak it. I’m not complaining.

Recently switched to Fractal from Helix. The reason being is the fidelity is much higher with Fractal amps. Not that you cannot get good tone from Helix but it takes more work and still doesn't get to Fractal's level. That being said, Line 6 may be trying to close the gap. But louder doesn't mean better. Line 6 need to work on clarity and openness esp with their distorted sounds IMO. If I play an open chord with some distortion, I can hear every note on Fractal. Helix is muddier. Again, not bad. Just not as good. I'm not trashing Helix. I'm just pointing out differences to my ear.

Line 6 may be making improvements, via firmware and within the limits of currently available DSP, to its amps/cabs and effects, already preparing for a future hardware version (a Helix II) considering that the hardware is still the same as in 2015. FractalAudio's AXE-FX III (released in 2018), in addition to firmware improvements, has already released TWO models "with steroids" in terms of hardware: first the "Mark II" and then the "Mark II Turbo". All of them, in my opinion, halted their ongoing projects when Fender released its smashing sales success - the Tone Master Pro (with octacore processor...) providing an impressive super user-friendly interface with a HUGE touch screen + awesome computer based editor software. They may be pushing the models currently on the market to the limit, testing what is to come perhaps as early as 2025...

Agreed. They need to go back and freshen up the old amps before they’re done. Using 65 Super & 2203 right now.

Im waiting for the rivera TBR1m. I offered them mine to work on but didnt hear back

Then you can hear it with the super reverb. There’s all sorts of extra tones going on there, very realistic

Put the tin foil hat on They are working on a new series. Probably be a year off but i know they are working

What I know is that the Bognor Blue absolutely ROARS for rhythm guitar at church 🙂

Had to laugh when you noted the Kinky Boost between the amp and cab wasn't needed with the Xtra Red. I found the same thing. It did the opposite that it usually does. God darker and a touch muddier.

I read on a forum somewhere that Yamaha/Line 6 has put a TON of R&D into improving the modeling process. I think the technology is moving forward. Even low cost modelers sound great these days.

As an idea A) are they trying new Approach before launching a new helix floor or B) are they trying to Improve the current model seeing if people notice without releasing a statement ??

I don't think that a mere change of volume is an indication that there is some sort of significant change. Basically, modelling is "calculating" a waveform. The volume of the waveform seems to me like something very basic that you do at the end of the entire process. The calculated waveform before a volume boost should look the same as after a volume boost. Our ears will perceive it differently as a result of Fletcher-Munson of course but that has nothing to do with modelling as such. Now, if I were Line 6 (and I'm not ;-)) I would continuously work on improving my mathematical models and add more flexibility to accurately model the different options of the real-life amps. In line with that, it should not be a surprise that the later models sound better (or perhaps are perceived to sound better ??? confirmation bias anyone ????) or at the least take up more DSP. Btw, love your videos man, keep up the good work !!

Agreed. The Release Notes include this innocuous comment "Other minor fixes and improvements". I think the Sound Designers at Line 6 pay attention to User suggestions on IdeaScale, and other Forums, and are truly committed to making improvements. Each new Update sounds better and is easier to dial in than the last. As far as the Modeling "architecture", a Update or two ago, they made a comment about being patient while installing the Update, because it contained thousands of new IRs. I believe they have improved the IR capture process, and this has contributed to the quality of the Presets. This is mostly speculation on my part, as I have no insider knowledge of what they do. But, I think it actually sounds "better."

Hey Jonny, peace 👍💪✌

I noticed some subtle differences as well but just thought it was cleaning up things or that maybe I was actually figuring out how to get things to finally sound good 😂. But after more critical listening with headphones, there is some serious differences in some of the amps and weak patches stick out obviously now.

I do hope line 6 do update their amp models.. I should hope their newer stuff starts to sound better. I loved my Helix and My HX stomp , But i originally ditched my Helix for a Kemper because it just felt better and less "Digital".. I think Line6 just really struggle with higher gain amps , The feel of the chugs and the high end was just harder to tame and sounded really fizzy and less punchy. A few years later i picked up a HX stomp and compared it to my Fractal FM3 on cygnus and it was just night a day difference again the high end fizz was just cutting through. The Helix is still a perfectly capable unit i just hope they deep dive and sort the amp models because i swear the 5150 and JCM 800 models are the exact same models that are in the Line 6 POD HD PRO X metal pack as i did a shoot out comparison with those and couldn't tell the difference... They just need to update all of the models and i genuinely would consider buying one again as the workflow is still by far one of my favourites.

This is exactly why I did not update my main unit yet. One more show and I can do the update. Did not want to mess any presets or settings. Updated the spare unit to 3.8 and the bogner stuff sounds really good. Does it sound better than before?

idk what they've done but I agree it's changed with the updates- for the better.

Jonny, great playing/patch as always! There’s definitely something going in the new update, I agree with you. Could it also be the fletcher munson effect be taking place here? Things take up more DSP for amps! Not sure what’s ahead but my theory is that this is the beginning for what’s coming out in future. 😅

I left the Line 6 stuff behind me about 15 years ago when they really started sitting on a very high horse. I never looked back or regret it. There is so much better stuff out there for the money.

Agreed. The Voltage is a from-scratch Plexi style amp, much louder than the Brit Plexi or Brit Trem models. The amps with built-in boosts require more DSP than the earlier ones, in most cases. The Cartographer cabs, to my ears, have a broader frequency spectrum and run louder than the Cali and Uber V30 cabs. I absolutely do think the modeling process has changed. And the DSP creep will affect single processor units first. Everything Line 6 has released since 2018 has been single-processor. I typically include a JC120 alongside a drive amp in my Stomp presets, and it's becoming impossible to do my style of builds anymore.

Thanks JL; thought that my "that Old Guy" ears started tricking me with recent releases--suspicions confirmed! Appreciate you Sir! P.S. Hey Line 6 / Yamaha: put JL on your beta tester list in the pole position!!!

I barely know how to turn on the unit - but I absolutely love your tones! hahaha thank you!

Dumped my HX Stomp XL about a week or two before the latest update drop and got into Tonex. I do not regret my decision. I will have another Helix int the future, I know that for certain. I will hold off until the hardware receives a much needed update. Update where devices receive more dsp.

Almost mistook this for clickbair ! You may be on to something. The audio engine overhaul and the cab model update (over the last few years) may have had an effect on the modelling methodology and the quality of the resulting models. Which is making new models betterer now. Nice !

Jonny, I love you man!

This is interesting. I have not yet done this update because it seems like I am reading more difficulties with this one that normal so I was sitting back a while. That said the one thing I have never heard folks discuss that I always found was that in all previous iterations every preset I made I always ran them far louder that what a base preset would be. And that adjustment was always made in the 'multi' output section. I used that to balance between snapshots, them matched all those from preset to preset. And with that they were always more lively and responsive overall. What you're describing here is exactly the difference between where I might find a 'normal' preset level (your 2204 example) in previous FW versions and my finished preset (your BOGRED) in this new FW. I will be curious now when I eventually do update and play with it a bit if I won't need an much output boost in the 'multi' section as before.