Maturana's statements about human compassion and desire are welcoming and profound. Otto's vernacular is somewhat bound to the modern day issues.

Thank you for this beautiful, loving , transformational converstion! Humberto Maturana must be an angel by now...

Powerful! This conversation was the best message for continuing living in 2021 that is being so challenging. So many insights, thanks for sharing!

I find it interesting that both interviewees are not given a chance to answer the questions. Disappointing

No está subtitulado al español.

What an amazing and profound conversation! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

thank you!

That's inspiring. Thanks! 🙏

think words fit for purpose. *100% private global quarterly UBI carbon wealth tax dividends* Cutting police with no national safety net is suicide . 80% of blacks do not want police defunded . Solar and wind power are 2% of total global energy use after 30 years trying . www.iea.org/data-and-statistics . By 2040 only 15% of global energy will be renewable . This is because electricity is only 20% of global energy use . Only 4% of mammals are wild ( humans & livestock = 96% ) . Emissions went up 50% in 30 yrs , up 30% in 15 years . C02 will be 500 ppm by 2040 and 600 ppm by 2050 = 2X safe limit of 300 ppm . Renewables will be 20% of global energy by 2050, even with new solar tech. Dams and bioenergy are ecological shitholes. Soy and corn are gene modded to survive the poisons that kill birds, bugs, fish, frogs & plants Soy and corn are treated with petrochemicals and nano particles for market Soy and corn are wrapped in gender bending containers for shipping and storage then we eat it - get sick - and buy medicine from the same people. There will never be a 100% green energy vegan world, ever. Some ideas are so stupid, only intellectuals believe them. Academic circle jerk asphyxia is the leading cause of male extinction. *See:* 4% of global energy is renewable - YT WSJ BP 2019 lokisrevengeblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/renewable-2030.png 4 global climate treaties failed in 30 years - Canadian Government 2018 lokisrevengeblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/canada-emissions-record.jpg 15% of global energy will be renewable by 2040 - YT WSJ BP 2019 lokisrevengeblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/renewable-2030-02.png 15% of global energy will be renewable by 2040 - CNBC IEA 2018 lokisrevengeblog.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/2040-energy.png

Ojalá pudiera esta conversación ser el virus 🦠 y contagiar al mundo entero, para poder SENTIR, REFLEXIONAR, CONECTAR Y ESCOGER ! Gracias a todo el team de liveable future por crear contenidos tan valiosos, ahora toca hacerlos vírales 🥰💖🥰

Garder le Petit Prince vivant et joyeux en soi tout en aidant l'adulte à grandir et devenir responsable : partout dans le Monde, les Écoles Steiner apportent de très belles nourritures à la fois artistiques, intellectuelles et spirituelles dans ce sens :-) L(es)' Amitié(s), une belle forme d'Amour très complémentaire à l'Amour familial, peut aider aussi à s'épanouir dans la Joie !

That was a really good conversation! If we had ever paid as much attention to re-imagining children's education as we are giving to the covid-19 pandemic and made learning to learn, peer-to-peer learning, human values and skills that machines could never learn then we would have changed the course of human history by now. Best part is we can do that even now!. We are just learning how to focus global attention on a micro-organism we can always decide to focus global attention on releasing the pressure on children from peers, teachers, parents and rest of society, reduce the education time lines by removing everything we are still teaching which machines can do 1000X better from their curriculum and give them back their childhood to play some more and let them re-imagine a world which we could not give them, but one which they can surely arrive at by themselves.

Thanks for sharing.....

Cuando las palabras con sabiduría vienen del corazón, comienza a fluir de la forma más simple y hermosa la verdadera naturaleza del amor, la honestidad y el respeto por mí y por todos los demás.

MJ: 05:34 Detrás de todas las guerras hay un mal liderazgo. No es la gente que va y comienza una la guerra, siempre son algunas personas de gatillo fácil en la parte superior SE: 10:48 la superación de la desconfianza y la sospecha y creo que es una característica clave que debemos buscar en los líderes más jóvenes que están surgiendo ahora mismo.

Interesante, en temas de sostenibilidad y espiritualidad sería interesante charlar con Alfredo Sfeir, ex candidato presidencial, ex BID.

Gracias por invitarnos en primera instancia a una auto- observación personal e institucional... paso fundamental para generar un diálogo...lo interesante es de las perspectivas de los sentimientos...se me vino a la cabeza "ética personal" y corrupción institucional.

Alguna sugerencia como salir de todo esto????

Gracias por las preguntas! Me encantaría oír las respuestas 👌🏼

Génial merci Gunter pour ces propos plein de lucidité :-) !

Deepak Chopra lo resalta en su libro Jamas Moriremos. Exitos

so good ...... thankyou so much ......

Thank you for this brief and powerful piece. It was shared by a member of the small resilience group that I am part of. We are taking your question to heart and mapping out the kind of future that we want and how we can engage the people who can get us there. Our group meets online weekly and this inquiry has already stimulated some deep insights. New subscriber here. Blessings to your Work in the world.

Great meeting! Thank you!

pranam sir ji

How Brilliant explanation of sustainable development, Community & of course ethics by Prof.Gupta

Great to hear Prof Gupta indeed!

Maravillosos ambos. Gracias!!!!

Bellísimo

Thank you so much for putting together these amazing people!

It was my first time dealing with Cyberteam0 on telegram and their service really surprised me as they helped me recover my lost Bitcoins..,.

Una conversación muy potente que abre caminos para "dejar que el amor aparezca". Gracias totales! A powerful conversation that open roads to "let love appear". Thank you very much!

so beautiful, thankyou so much. I especially felt so moved by the reflections on deep listening . And as a poet , it was also, so interesting for me to hear humberto's talk of the difference between : ' change ' , and ' transformation '. And ' that which is conserved ' .... which gives ' choice '. I write from small moments, and as these are often my reference points, I will share a poem here, to further and deepen my comment .... ' tenderness for impermenence ' just let the gentle lilac blow, her own sweet reason to the wind .... and trust to a love that you may know, for the smallest change of each small thing .... is this compassion ? then come, soft passion, fill me with your tenderest love ..... dance as tenderly with me, as all below, and inbetween, and all above .... such tenderness for change, for life, for love ........ In this poem, I am sharing a vulnerability of all beings ...... our impermenence ....... which when understood , within that moment of : ' coming into being , and going ' .... within the same smallest moment, shares the ' choice ' to live, and to be alive with other, and to be a lover ....... this ground of smallness, shares an understanding, that is transformative, and defuses all the conditioning of the ' intention-ownership ' mind ........ and shares : ' attending mind, as we ....... there is no longer any defence ....... Perhaps this is the closest I have come to the understanding of auto-poesis , and my poem is trying to describe and frame in words and emotion, that which cannot be described .... But yet, while I live, this is my work .... to continue to try to share ........ But, of course, please accept I am not sharing these mind-states all the time .... they are rare, but, as a poet, it is my cause and duty, to share to others. This is my work. Many years ago, humberto maturana was teaching at schumacher college, just down the way from where I live, here in devon. And I attended his open-evening talk. He was speaking of language ....... At that time, I was involved in a self-organized study of the last works of wittgenstein. I would visit a small library, the most beautiful library in the world , at sharpham house, just down the river from schumacher college .... and there, I would share an afternoon each week, opening the book, to a random page .... and reading ..... Each time I opened at a page, over the long 6 months of numerous visits ........ each page of writing always for me, shared ' being made-up of the smallness '. There was never any dis-continuity ......... One random page of writing and sharing , flowed to the next ........ I would never have survived, even for a day .... the regimented university courses on wittgenstein's ideas. And when he wrote : ' the rules at the beginning , determine all outcomes .... ' For me, this was a zen moment .... and I understood for myself .... that , this smallest rule at the beginning .... was : 'the smallest reason to believe in life ' ..... to : 'choose life ' .... even within that smallest moment of living and dying together at the same time. This was my understanding, at that time of humberto's talk ....... tho, I kept it to myself ........ : that all language, noting, knowing , and all relating ...... and all the living world of human and eco-systems, and all our earth, and all our universe ..... was made up of the smallness. Like a heart-mind of equalness, of ' we ' together , creating our understanding together, of smallest love attending, moment to moment ....... moving forward ...... I so, so wanted to approach humberto and to talk to him about wittgenstein's work .... but I was too shy, and he was a wonderful and wise professor, and I was a poet, and so not-famous ...... and also, because , my understanding was so new to me ....... I didn't have the confidence then ....... it took more ' confidings from the smallest moments ' , and more writings of my poetry , to share more confidence to myself. And then, a while ago, I listened to the video of humberto's talk on evolutionary drift, and in the introduction, it was mentioned that he had ' studied ' wittgenstein's work. Ah ...... It feels to me, that when otto scharmer spoke of love, and the heart ....... and humberto also ..... and finding : ' our work ', and bringing it forth ....... there are so many poets, artists, quiet thinkers and enquirers ....... ' listening ' ..... ' listening ....... ' We are not famous , but we listen, and love listens to us, and answers ..... ' our beloved earth, she is the calling of my heart, and she is the answer .... ' quote from gaiabreathlovesong.blogspot.com access via google. And here is another poem, to say thankyou ....... and shared also to our : ' falling blossom petals poetry group', on our capra course alumni platform. And it feels like in these days and times ..... we are the falling blossom petals ......... 'and closer still ...... ' my love, how long it has been .... since I last sang to you how long have I been silent, not even I, have heard my own singing ....... the sweet prayer I used to offer, rests somewhere unknown to me lost amidst green, wooded vales, hidden among the wild valleys of rhododendron and peonie...... and now again, I feel close .... by soft surprise ..... and closer still .... do you call to me .... or do I call to you ...... my song again sings free, and lifts our fragile world to the stars, and the mountains and the forests cry such gentle, mysterious tears .... it is the quietest love song so quiet, of gentle joy more quiet than ever before ..... and so light so beautifully light, of no returning ....... with love, karen.

Inspirador!!!

Observar el que observa lo observado .... bellísima experiencia constante 💖💖 Gracias por la simplicidad en la explicación de esta experiencia del DARNOS CUENTA 👏🏻👏🏻

Bravo, oui nous devons agir en urgence pour les futurs générations.

I am also aware that i am ok 😊

I am feeling well too

I hope you ask them next time, what are the strategies, what are the real solutions? We are activists and we have answered those questions for the moment as best we can. utopiacornucopia.org is there for your participation or comments. We have some very ambitious strategies that we are in the process of carrying out. One of our first projects was to make this 7 minute animation explaining horizontal self-governing which is virtually incorruptible, by and for the people, decentralized, direct democracy, womens' liberation, etc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rarafpuda5VnjZo

First of all one might consider restructuring all gov'ts. from vertical to horizontal, which is virtually incorruptible: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rarafpuda5VnjZo. Next, we are in the process of making a giant network of millions to billions of like-minded individuals and organizations to share information, disseminate information, and possibly help organize world-wide protests demanding if agreed upon, restructuring to horizontal. This network will take 3 to 6 months to make functional. We will not control, only manage, so that all will be empowered, and humanity will have a voice once unified. utopiacornucopia.org

Grateful y excite to hermoso from you

Wonderful conversation. Todos of the beat thinkers of the time.

How to geta the conference un spanglish. Please

todo lo que dijo Otto Scharmer lo atesoro en mi mente y lo aplicaré, no es por él, sino que pudo expresar lo que yo siento pero él fue capaz de verbalizarlo por nosotros...........

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"Co-inspirar". Gracias, de verdad que me siento muy invitada a reconstruir y a transformar conservando el deseo, porque sin él no se activa la acción.

Bom dia. Excelente oportunidade estar aqui!

Que maravillosa conversación reflexiva, fluida, sin expectativas, sin pretensiones! Disfrute enormemente la espontaneidad y la belleza! Gracias por inspirarnos a aprender a CONVERSAR! Vivimos en el lenguaje y comprender que es nuestro instrumento creador o destructor es el inicio de una nueva era: la era de la honestidad y de la colaboración 🙏🌸🙏 Felicitaciones también a Sebastian, excelente moderador 👏🏻

muy nutritiva conversación puede ser subtitulos en español

Que lindo sería con subtítulos en español