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@DeathGrind43
@DeathGrind43 6 сағат бұрын
Personally I find it faster than my hayate otsu. In my opinion it can be the perfect mousepad. Speed similar to hien but much more consistentl and comfortable. I've tried all the artisan mousepads with the exception of the shidenkai and the type 99 (I'm not interested in a mousepad so focused on control). This Key-83 deserves to share the top position with Raiden. Better than hien and hayate otsu for me
@meow-meow-1337
@meow-meow-1337 13 сағат бұрын
was so hype for this mouse but 60g. Sora v2 at 40g so much better
@xx-yz5xz
@xx-yz5xz 7 сағат бұрын
shape is king. have the ulx cheetah, viper v3 pro, beast x and maya x and the op1 8k shape was too perfect i got the op1w 4k. havent looked back ever since
@meow-meow-1337
@meow-meow-1337 4 сағат бұрын
@@xx-yz5xz i wish there was a mm710 with recent hardware, but sora v2 and op1w comes really close
@betsthegod
@betsthegod Күн бұрын
The weight balancing is horrid. Yes, i own it
@mahimabiat5577
@mahimabiat5577 Күн бұрын
can you review monka m1 pro max
@GraceByFaith-86
@GraceByFaith-86 Күн бұрын
yea xm2 8k is the dark translucent plastic and it has a lot of creaking.. but still a great mouse..
@glashausAimz2
@glashausAimz2 Күн бұрын
mine is creaking like a rusty gate out of the box(frost edition) and its heavy and dense as a brick. pretty much the worst mouse i bought in 2024 and i bought many of them.
@richboii6597
@richboii6597 Күн бұрын
lol that’s the frost versions for you. They really do feel heavy tho and I’m not even a “weight queen.” Lol
@glashausAimz2
@glashausAimz2 Күн бұрын
@richboii6597 i still cant main this mouse. i wish i got a white cable version instead😓 everything but the clicks is literal china mouse quality plus the weight of a 2022 mouse.
@richboii6597
@richboii6597 Күн бұрын
@@glashausAimz2 lol you should have just returned it. My white op1w 4k was flawless, just felt very weird for being so small yet so heavy.
@glashausAimz2
@glashausAimz2 Күн бұрын
@richboii6597 the retailer here(datablitz) is ghosting me and egg won't RMA it because it wasn't bought directly from them. i tried to sell it for half the price after 1 week but i showed the creaking issue and no one wanted it after. gg endgame gear for making e waste 💁
@oscatMeow
@oscatMeow Күн бұрын
@@richboii6597 Is it really that heavy though? I just bought a pulsar x2h mini after maining a g303 shroud for 2 years which is 75g. But i think i got a dodgy batch from pulsar, so i bought the op1w4k, the difference between these two mice is 6.5g which would have to be negligible. I hit Ascendant in valorant with a 75g mouse, no way 58g feels like a brick to people
@ngoc_anthony
@ngoc_anthony Күн бұрын
I wonder how to you measure motion latency ?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr Сағат бұрын
Mouse comparator software. Same method as techpowerup.
@severfieldtv1224
@severfieldtv1224 Күн бұрын
I honestly think Endgame Gear coming out with an ergo would be the only thing to knock the Lamzu Thorn off my desk. Would LOVE to see them cook up an ergo shape. Loved the XM1r, but I prefer the X2H for that rear hump ambi shape. OP1 really intrigues me, but I'm scared my 11cm wide hands will cramp like they do with the ZA13 after some time.
@ibzmav
@ibzmav Күн бұрын
I have the X2H mini, and I prefer the OP1. I have the wired version. Its flat sides help for better grip and micro-adjustments.
@DreamingPhenom
@DreamingPhenom 23 сағат бұрын
I had the OP18K coming from the wider G305 and I returned it due to the cramps from the narrow width. Got the Scyrox V8 after and its way more comfortable with its wider width, no cramp. 17.5/10cm Edit: I also much prefer the lighter switches V8 has compared to OP18K's Kailhs (hotswapped to their lightest variant, but those were still heavier than the Omrons).
@user-gq3eq5bf9t
@user-gq3eq5bf9t Күн бұрын
5:55 what is that in microseconds?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr Күн бұрын
1ms =1 000 μs
@user-gq3eq5bf9t
@user-gq3eq5bf9t 2 күн бұрын
Total cost of the build?
@woo5541
@woo5541 23 сағат бұрын
with a tofu 60 redux it costs about 250-300$ all in all
@Exyile
@Exyile 2 күн бұрын
genuinely wondering what kinda black magic they are using with the motion latency being the same on all polling rates
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 2 күн бұрын
I have never in my life retested a mouse more than this one :D I couldn't believe my eyes at first but then I saw that pzogel from techpowerup had the same results. Must be german engineering I guess.
@SweSpy92
@SweSpy92 2 күн бұрын
The most uncomfortable mouse shape I've ever used and I mained weird/unique mice like the Razer Lachesis and Copperhead back in the day. But it's a very high quality mouse and I can see it work for people with thinner palms than mine, probably perfect for women.
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 2 күн бұрын
Yeah if it suits your hand it's an awesome shape
@joonas1938
@joonas1938 Күн бұрын
@@jerrorr yeah that's how it usually works haha
@jerrorr
@jerrorr Күн бұрын
@@joonas1938 meant so say mouse, not shape
@P4sta.
@P4sta. 2 күн бұрын
i hope to see light weight mice with tech like this
@foop5050
@foop5050 2 күн бұрын
I think I have similar sized hands to you and a similar big palm (17x10ish) and have recently used a gpx and more recently an op18k. The gpx was more comfortable when using it and I never really had problems with the shape but it started double clicking so I recently purchased an op1. It took a while to get used to and I didn’t really like it at first but after figuring out my grip the back hump is great for relaxed claw. The only issue is that the wire gets caught under my mouse sometimes, maybe bc the way I lift it or whatever, and I’ve given away my gpx so I’m now looking for a wireless mouse. This mouse sounds perfect but the price is pretty steep, do you think it’s worth it?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 2 күн бұрын
Check my newest vid about the op1w 4k if you like that shape!
@br1ht3st
@br1ht3st 2 күн бұрын
do you have a link for the pad under your keyboard?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 2 күн бұрын
Google keebmat!
@Log_Pile
@Log_Pile 2 күн бұрын
🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 2 күн бұрын
🫡
@webnutzu
@webnutzu 2 күн бұрын
waiting for it
@alexp3577
@alexp3577 2 күн бұрын
Any thoughts on op1w vs hitscan hyperlight?
@maimzera
@maimzera 2 күн бұрын
owned both, totally diff shapes. hyperlight is like blocky on the sides and lower click height cus of the grooves, op1 shape is like a small xm1 shape but with less curves on the sides. personally id main op1 over hitscan, for me its just a better shape, better build quality, easy to mod/easy to repair, while on the other hand hitscan do have good build quality but the clicks are mediocre, the only selling point of the hitscan is its weight if youre into that.
@UniverseMON
@UniverseMON 2 күн бұрын
This mice or vaxee x sora i going to buy one on monday
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 2 күн бұрын
Do you prefer wider or thinner mice?
@Partyzant666
@Partyzant666 2 күн бұрын
Dat design is like 80s!
@nam0v1
@nam0v1 3 күн бұрын
I'm sad because I just ordered the hm66 when the venom60's pcb was sold out. Now he is on stocks.... Damn what should I do? I think it's too late now my hm66 is on shipping, I would be more excited to build the venom60he myself...
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 3 күн бұрын
You can always mod the HM66 if you want to!
@Lumireii
@Lumireii 4 күн бұрын
Would you take this over the Fnatic x Lamzu Maya 8k (non-x)?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 3 күн бұрын
Yeah
@BeeRad502
@BeeRad502 4 күн бұрын
Another great review! Hey, that color is really nice and I’m curious if it looks good with the honor dark keycaps that you have on your 80he?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 4 күн бұрын
Yeah it looks really nice with those as well
@Hello-uv3nz
@Hello-uv3nz 4 күн бұрын
Do you think I could use the apex pro mini as a donor keyboard? I'm curious if I could just get the venom60he pcb but use the case, pcb plate, foams, stabilizers from the apex pro mini. They look like they have the same layout so I was thinking it might work. I already have some TTC uranus and TTC KOM switches I can use for it.
@Hello-uv3nz
@Hello-uv3nz 4 күн бұрын
Welp nvm, only things I could use from the apex pro mini is the case and keycaps without desoldering all the switches from the pcb which is not worth it lol
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 4 күн бұрын
Yeaah your best bet is to get everything. There are some nice cheap cases as well that you can buy from taobao as well
@Hello-uv3nz
@Hello-uv3nz 4 күн бұрын
@@jerrorr Any recommendations? I'm having a hard time finding stuff for it, can't get any good search results on superbuy and can't make a taobao account without passing a Chinese language captcha that I can't read 😅
@naczos7945
@naczos7945 5 күн бұрын
3:58 what is the name of this liquid he uses on switches??
@ofAmbrosia
@ofAmbrosia 4 күн бұрын
Krytox
@kae2678
@kae2678 5 күн бұрын
I have the key-83 soft. It's so scratchy? I thought I would love this mousepad but it's so harsh on the mice and skin. Some of the stock skates even drag against it if they're particularly thin skates... I'm coming from Steelseries QCK. Should I go for type 99 if it's smoother?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 4 күн бұрын
Ahh you might not like textured pads then. Type-99 is very smooth and controlled, but I would suggest you try out some thicker skates first and try if a sleeve helps. Another very good but speedier pad is the LGG Neptune Pro. It’s very smooth and fast, like a bit more controlled Artisan Raiden. Or for a more controlled very widely recommended option the LGG Saturn Pro.
@TWTYELVN
@TWTYELVN 5 күн бұрын
R u gonna review the HTS ultra 8k
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 5 күн бұрын
Yep
@xoWLxxx
@xoWLxxx 5 күн бұрын
The world’s best HE PCB
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 5 күн бұрын
100%
@stefanpapdi5151
@stefanpapdi5151 5 күн бұрын
i preordered a ultra hts deluxe so 29.5grams, hope there are no issues like mouse tilt or quality failing. Im excited for the mouse haha
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 5 күн бұрын
Mine arrives soon as well 😍
@stefanpapdi5151
@stefanpapdi5151 5 күн бұрын
@ i hope the new sensor is as good as the old iterations on techpowerup he got -1.0ms so pls gwolves dont have sensor firmware issues hahaha
@mariolovesleonedwards
@mariolovesleonedwards 6 күн бұрын
Whats the difference between the fnatic colab and normal version
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 5 күн бұрын
Color
@iisynxxii
@iisynxxii 6 күн бұрын
How is the Key-83 compared to the Zero Mid? Which one feels better when playing? I need a balance between speed and control. I'm thinking about getting the Zero Mid. But I'm unsure about the color. Orange looks very nice but I'm afraid that if my hand/arm sweats, that it will stay on the mousepad and become even dirtier than the black one. How is the color holding up, no stains? Also, some say that the orange is a little faster than the black, which might be problematic with mid (I want the mid because I'm worried that the soft would be slow for me and Mid seems very balanced between control and speed). Or should I rather buy the Key-83?
@vAmmonite
@vAmmonite 4 күн бұрын
curious too
@DeeganBJJ
@DeeganBJJ 6 күн бұрын
Just wondering do you know if this pcb will fit in the Tofu60 case? I'm new to building keyboards and I want to do a HE board for my first build
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 6 күн бұрын
It fits yes
@DeeganBJJ
@DeeganBJJ 6 күн бұрын
@@jerrorr Ok thank you!
@soullessun5544
@soullessun5544 7 күн бұрын
The review is awesome, really like the fingertip shape, especially htr 8k. Nevertheless, the only thing I can afford is keychron m4😂
@Log_Pile
@Log_Pile 7 күн бұрын
Great job Jerrorr, I havent used my HTR too much but its a lot of fun when I do use it. I prefer the HTX Mini, have you tried it?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 7 күн бұрын
Not yet but I should receive one soon 😌
@Log_Pile
@Log_Pile 7 күн бұрын
@jerrorr awesome
@FreshPanda97
@FreshPanda97 6 күн бұрын
I really think about getting the HTR 8K for 110€ right now vs the HTX Mini (wish I could efford the mini just right now, but its so expensive 190€ in comparrison)
@Ovidyn-u6o
@Ovidyn-u6o 5 күн бұрын
​​​@@FreshPanda97 Htr tbh is more of an knuckle claw grip mouse (your knuckles and fingers only make contact with the mouse) i think its great option for claw grip if you have very small hand Htr definitely works with fingertip but because of huge hump you wont get enough range of motion, and weight balance will feel quite weird as this mouse is supposed to be gripped from the very front, based on the curveture of the sides, if you would want to grip it in the middle your pinky might feel weird. I own htr pro and for me its on par with hsk pro which used to be my main, but still i find full mice like htx to be better for fingertip cause they give me some stabillity with my grip, durning intensive moments i feel more secured and confident with my grip on htx or starlight small. Currently i think htx mini might be the best mouse for fingertip, not only because it offers more stabillity than hsk or htr but also because 27g on full mouse will feel much lighter than 27 gram on such tiny mouse as htr. Htx mini is much better pick, and if not than mice like beast x mini or ulx cheetah
@DextoS
@DextoS 7 күн бұрын
Hello, i'm a bit late on this video so i'm not expecting an answer but if for some reason you will see my comment , could you raccomend me the best keyboard to make with infinite budget? I want the best performance possibile and quality for professional level gaming , and i Can't really find what's "the best" in the market since im pretty new to keyboards, if you can help me it would be really appriciated ❤ ( sorry for bad english maybe )
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 7 күн бұрын
Wooting 80he or 60he are the safest options to get, and if you want the fastest (difference not rly noticeable) you can build a venom60 he
@iisynxxii
@iisynxxii 8 күн бұрын
I want a Zero Mid too. Is the orange one much faster than the black? How is the color holding up, no stains?
@cloudconnected7008
@cloudconnected7008 8 күн бұрын
i want to test the Geonworks Venom 80 HE.
@catalaw
@catalaw 8 күн бұрын
Thank you for the time, do you have the link to other sources that tests this keyboard and compared with the rest? Thank you Jerrorr.
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 8 күн бұрын
Check eyejokerdb
@catalaw
@catalaw 8 күн бұрын
@jerrorr 🫡
@catalaw
@catalaw 8 күн бұрын
@jerrorr thanks to you, I got myself a venom too. Thank you.
@icyxLikesTech
@icyxLikesTech 9 күн бұрын
Should i get 6.25 or 7U? Btw could you tell me the Actuation point of the keyboard??
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 8 күн бұрын
It depends on which you like more. Lowest actuation is currently 0.1mm
@oldirtykiIIa
@oldirtykiIIa 9 күн бұрын
Nice review mate, I currently run AX Outset and Lamzu Thorn, pretty similar to each other, but I feel like they lack on hump/palm support, my hand is like 19+-cm, what would you recommend? I kinda do relaxed claw. VAXEE has by far the best quality I've ever seen on a mouse so far, except their mouse wheel.
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 9 күн бұрын
Hmm those two are ergos with a fairly high hump profiling but are on the shorter side. From ergos you could try something longer and from ambi mice the Maya X could work nicely
@novimon
@novimon 9 күн бұрын
Love the detailed talk / impressions on the shape re: your hand. With identical hand to you I'm a little hesitant with narrow mice as they (eg. MZ1, X2 v1 mini) tend to give me hand cramps over longer / more intensive sessions. Did you have that problem with the np-01s?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 9 күн бұрын
I figured that for me the cramps come if the mouse has no support on the thumb knuckle so on this I have no problems. But I know exactly what you mean!
@RyujinKevin
@RyujinKevin 9 күн бұрын
Between this one and the E1, which would you go for ?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 9 күн бұрын
Currently I would choose this one
@inspire1ove
@inspire1ove 9 күн бұрын
great vid. would you happen to have a caliper to measure the grip width at the narrowest grip points?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 9 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s around 55mm middle of the sensor and middle of the front skate like 51,5mm. Measured from bottom.
@sNiPeR95PwnZ
@sNiPeR95PwnZ 9 күн бұрын
YES you put your hand on it
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 9 күн бұрын
😂
@lepari9986
@lepari9986 10 күн бұрын
Nice review! 4:20 There will also be web-based software available really soon!
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
Yeah I saw that! Vaxee cooking fr
@eddy777-rest
@eddy777-rest 10 күн бұрын
Another great review. Love the conclusion segment!
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@Jesse074
@Jesse074 10 күн бұрын
Hey jerrorr which mouse is better the hitscan hyperlight or the lamzu maya 8k
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
Performance wise they are kinda identical, same thing with build quality. So it comes down to shape preference and sensor position. Hyperlight has a more forward position and shape is like viper mini, while maya is more center humped.
@Jesse074
@Jesse074 10 күн бұрын
@@jerrorr the sensor itself doesnt matter that much right? As in you cant see the difference. And which one would u chose
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
@Jesse074I’d go with hitscan personally
@Jesse074
@Jesse074 10 күн бұрын
@@jerrorr can you maybe explain why🫣
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
@ personal preference, I like the shape better
@Hello-uv3nz
@Hello-uv3nz 10 күн бұрын
Can you use TTC KOM or TTC Uranus esports on the Venom60he?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
Yeah! You just have to choose the Gateron Jade as the switch for the correct travel distance. I have TTC KOM on my other one currently.
@wiill1
@wiill1 10 күн бұрын
thanks for the detailed review! why don't you recommend motion sync on this mouse?
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
I don't recommend motion sync in any mouse, it just adds motion latency without any benefit
@starumedah6945
@starumedah6945 10 күн бұрын
Jerror, would you say np01s is my best option if I want something that gives the most space for my pinky and ring finger (especially pinky) to grip on the mouse for 18x9cm hands? I don't like ergonomic mice because they're tilted, and I'm not sure if symmetrical mice combat this issue, potentially ones with a wide back flare could help, I don't know such as the U2 or xm2. Please let me know.
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
Potentially yeah. It is just something that you have to try and see
@windfail
@windfail 10 күн бұрын
what are those keycaps they match very well with the vaxee
@jerrorr
@jerrorr 10 күн бұрын
@@windfail they are ePBT 3000SAT
@richboii6597
@richboii6597 9 күн бұрын
Do you put you two fingers together or space them out? Like towards the front of the mouse? This mouse feels amazing if you keep ring and pinky together straight out. If that makes sense. It’s like it’s made for it
@starumedah6945
@starumedah6945 9 күн бұрын
@@richboii6597 Hey I space them out, I like to grip the mouse a further up on the mouse in terms of my pinky and ring finger.