Still at it then!!!

didnt say anything about reason fo pivano order, nor the stats you have against the germans

@@paulcarroll4003 I always thought that Pivano made finishing equipment, in fact a very good friend of mine had the UK agency. In my time at Mitsubishi I personally sold 38 presses including B1 6,8 and 10 colour and a 6 unit 16pp web, every installation bar one replaced Heidelberg machines. One installation was at a very well known Midlands company involved removing two 6 + coated Heidelberg machines and replacing them with one Mitsubishi and to this day it produces 24/7 more that those two Heidelberg machines, it's time you woke up and smelled the coffee. I am not against all German machines I think KBA have now come a long way.

@@michaelcarr2874 you are correct, the b2 was atwo up 2down format. it was purchased by james haworth because of heildeburg waiting list,was later demonstrated at martin kennedys request at kenmart was not a brrialant machine

@@paulcarroll4003 Did you work for Kenmart?