Nice illustration video. I’m an ex K & T Service Tech who installed many types of 3-4-5 axis CNC equipment in Aerospace back in the day. We verified alignments with a 14” precision Granite on most, sometimes a 24”. We also ran laser yaw, pitch and roll on our ways before the assembly. Finally lost motion correction on each ball screw and rotary table was performed. Keep up the good work.
@doseoffaiyaz3 ай бұрын
Insightful video. Learned a lot. Thank you!
@benji6b4 ай бұрын
Great video thank you
@Double0Civic4 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thanks man!
@AmericanMakerCNC5 ай бұрын
Wow, this is fantastic! Nice job. Thanks for sharing it with the machining community!
@-______-______-6 ай бұрын
Lovely finish and beautiful router too.
@chawesspe36 ай бұрын
I have a project that I need to use 8 mm leadscrews and I have been trying to find a tap for the screws. Could you pass on to me your suppliers information? Thanks Charles
@imnoexpertbut6 ай бұрын
8mm trapezoidal 4-start (8mm lead, 2mm pitch). I found a tap on robotdigg: www.robotdigg.com/product/794/ACME-Trapezoidal-Lead-Screw-TAP-for-screw-thread
@GeraldFitzgerald-o7p6 ай бұрын
Planning on making a Coffee machine cart where the machine raises from it's lowest point to the working surface. What do you believe is the best ball screw to use considering the cart will be used over all types of terrains? e.g. transported inside a truck/van, pushed over grassy/muddy locations and towed on an e-bike over all terrains.
@Theranthrope6 ай бұрын
This is kinda a waste just to cut aluminum, as you can just use a miter saw with an ordinary wood cutting blade. I've cut extruded 2020 with my old Ryobi and it's stock blade without a problem (other than razor-sharp aluminum chips flying everywhere, but that's the fun of working with aluminum).
@ankithmistry7 ай бұрын
You should try kerosene and diesel
@nickle5497 ай бұрын
Can this be backlit?
@steran507 ай бұрын
Though I have not tried it myself I was told by an Engineer that kerosene is the best for aluminum.
@Raul281537 ай бұрын
WD40 is deoderized Kerosene with a wee skosh of hydrotreated light pump oil. Kero does the job too for a shit ton less $$
@TheXSpitfire8 ай бұрын
How loud is the machine while running ? I had a CNC router with a 2.2kw spindle and at max RPM my neighbors complained.
@voidfalse8 ай бұрын
I use canola oil for milling, drilling, turning and tapping
@davemurphy38138 ай бұрын
Is that your CAM software with the chip load graphing, or is it an app or online tool? I like that.
@imnoexpertbut8 ай бұрын
cutcalculator.xyz
@davemurphy38138 ай бұрын
@@imnoexpertbut Thanks!
@shonnr8 ай бұрын
I am using your dimensions and material list to make a mill like yours. I am a trade machinist 20 years. You could buy a bench mill but retro fitting a bench mill has limitations also. # 1 they have ways not linear bearings. The RPM is also limited due to gearbox. I will be substituting aluminum for steel and I am making it thicker. 3" Cold rolled for frame and column. I want it heavy to dampen vibration.
@ThoCoKhi1819 ай бұрын
Noise has decreased. Do you think it comes from upgrading Ballscrews or high speed spindles? Thanks!
@EXPERIENCETRIP9 ай бұрын
HI ! Can I ask you what tip do you use for engraving the words?
@arbjful9 ай бұрын
Does the feed rate affect the finish quality? I don’t get very clean looking finish, although it’s very smooth to touch, but one can see the scuff marks on the surface. The material is 6061 aluminum, 6.35 dia carbide end mill, 2 flute. Feed is F120. The coolant is cutting oil mixed with water, flood type with air blower.
@emc389510 ай бұрын
Hi, It’s a magnificent piece of work, really very clean! Quick question: Isn't your panel too thick and too opaque, I mean can you use your cockpit in the dark and use a backlight?
@MrNeelthehulk10 ай бұрын
Cool video .. very informative.. but are those chips on you lead screw when you were facing the table ... I have to call the cops on you
@Manokanalasify10 ай бұрын
Many years ago kerosene was used as a coolant in surface grinding
@Noxoreos10 ай бұрын
The typical WD40, that you can get pretty much everywhere isn't actually a lubricant at all. It's the opposite and should not be used as such. That's why you notice it doesn't hold up as much for things like squeeky doors. Over time it removes every lubricant, that was on there before and makes it worse. It is supposed to loosen up rust and to clean parts and it removes thicker grease. Yes it does work very well as coolant on aluminium parts. For that purpose it is fine and is therefore used by many people for that purpose. You also can also use WD40 to clean parts, without making them vulnerable to rust (or actually protect them from rust), but never use it as lubricant. For lubrication the WD40 should be removed with alcohol, acetone or brake fluid (or similar) beforehands and then you can use a suitable lubricant afterwards. However WD40 is actually a brand name and not the name of a specific product. They also make a few other products, that appear to look very similar on first look, but some of these other products are actually lubricants for various purposes.
@Motorman4646 ай бұрын
You do a lot of aluminum milling?
@Noxoreos6 ай бұрын
@@Motorman464 I wouldn't call it a lot. Why?
@Motorman4646 ай бұрын
@@Noxoreos Because after reading your dissertation, it's evident you haven't done a lot of anything. WD-40 "water displacement, 40th formula" is indeed a lubricant, rust preventative and penetrating oil. When I see someone comment with statements like "should not be used as such" and "but never as a lubricant", it tells me that you have no idea what you are talking about. I'm sure this part was a typo but no one uses "brake fluid" to remove WD-40. I'm sure you meant brake cleaner. Although WD-40 is a brand name, it is also a specific product and the formula is still a trade secret. You gave rather a lengthy spiel to be so incorrect. Good luck.
@Noxoreos6 ай бұрын
@@Motorman464 As a matter of fact, what you're stating has nothing to with milling, so your first question doesn't even matter in that regards. Nor does my answer to it. So I'm not sure how you think to know what I did or didn't do. I work as an engineer in germany and I have a lot of experience with products from WD40. Of course I'm not talking about break cleaner. Break cleaner does not prevent rust. I'm talking about the product from WD40 that is used incorrectly in a lot of cases because it lubricates only temporarily. I have to fix a lot mechanics due to improper use of lubricants and WD40 is by far the most common reason for early wear on sliding surfaces. The reason for that is because it lubricates for a rather short period of time and then dries up after a day or so, depending on how open it is to the air. As I said the do also create proper lubricants that are made for this purpose but there product they sell most is not that.
@Motorman4646 ай бұрын
@@Noxoreos Ok Maryanne, go change your pad now.
@jjjbossjjj11 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of your diy mill. What spindle are you using (kw, diameter, er16?)
@jjjbossjjj11 ай бұрын
Great video! How much of alignemnt can be adjusted via the linear rails themselves? Thx!
@imnoexpertbut11 ай бұрын
It's important for the two rails on an axis to be perfectly parallel, so after you spend a lot of time dialing that in you don't want to loosen them again.
@jjjbossjjj11 ай бұрын
@@imnoexpertbut I see! Makes sense... So we set that up first and don't touch it again while we go on to tramming the other axes.
@Jptoutant11 ай бұрын
great info, i like your mills setup
@Dude_Slick11 ай бұрын
I used 3/8-8 4 start lead screws for my router build, and I'm quite satisfied. But then I only cutting wood so I don't need a powerhouse of a machine. I run a good size work area at 24"X46" So I'm contemplating adding a second screw to the Y axis, as I am currently running a single center screw.
@wh0tube11 ай бұрын
90 degrees is overrated 😁👍 Imagine how much better the world would be f x, y, and z axis were at 84 degrees to each other.
@BruceWSims11 ай бұрын
Not altogether sure what problem is being solved here. AFAIK ball-screws originated as a solution to backlash. I'm left to wonder what tolerances you are working at that "backlash" with ball-screws is a problem. Thoughts?
@imnoexpertbut11 ай бұрын
I don't think backlash is the only advantage, but sure, that's an important one. For a hobbyist, the reason to avoid backlash isn't just precision, but rigidity and avoiding vibration. Cutting forces during climb cuts will pull the work piece into the cut and away from one side of the backlash to the other, which, if you couple it with a small DIY machine that's lightweight, is going to spell trouble. You're going to break a lot of endmills, unless you're extremely careful about always taking cuts from specific directions, which isn't too hard on a big manual bridgeport, but becomes very difficult on a small CNC machine.
@BruceWSims11 ай бұрын
@imnoexpertbut Ahhhh....OK...got it. I think I was mistaking what you were identifying as "backlash". My bad. Apologies all the way around. My own work is on a mini-mini-lathe (see: Sherline) so that was my frame of reference. However, if you are talking about a full-size lathe I can definitely that. Sorry for the fuss......
@markbunyan3078 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing! I found this while looking to confirm the calculation for Torque, where did you find the calc in the video? It seems to be different to most that I have found which show T= PL/2Pi e, where the calc in the video shows T = PL e / 2Pi. Where should the efficiency be? Thanks!
@imnoexpertbut Жыл бұрын
I took it from this page, where they should both a drive torque and holding torque equation. For driving, a low efficiency should be higher drive torque is required. For holding, it seems like the same relationship should follow: lower efficiency should mean high holding torque. So now that you point it out, I'm also confused. www.nookindustries.com/resources/general-technical-references/ball-screw-design-considerations/
@markbunyan3078 Жыл бұрын
Thanks@@imnoexpertbutthat's helped, i had not previously found the two equations together. I ran some numbers through the equations and i think it makes sense - you need more torque to drive the same amount of load as the motor has to overcome the frictional forces of the ballscrew (efficiency), whereas the holding torque is in a static state, resulting in less torque being required, but having said that, why does the efficiency need to be included in the static state?
@imnoexpertbut Жыл бұрын
@@markbunyan3078 OK yeah, your explanation made it click for me. The T in the holding torque equation is the motor torque needed to prevent backdrive, in which case it makes sense that lower efficiency would make the needed holding torque lower, because lower efficiency is mostly due to higher friction.
@paradiselost9946 Жыл бұрын
seems legit... noticed that the el-cheapo ballscrews seem to come with the seals/wipers. being metric is the icing on the cake. the lack of wipers, along with the imperial 5TPI of the screws i got with the CNC kit for my little X2 mill? think it was "robson" brand? no end of troubles! stripped them at least 5 times getting chips out... along with the old "forget to throw g21 in code" on every power up... ouch. yeah, one day i might actually finish scraping and get it back together with the new screws sitting on the shelf.. in hindsight, linear rails and build from the ground up would have been a far better approach than convert chinese dovetails to cnc. that has been a journey! might STILL be a better option... even if i just hack the dovetails out altogether! at that point though, the beds still too small... sigh..
@lohikarhu734 Жыл бұрын
Interesting discussion...I was looking at some rather precise "stages" used in drilling PCBs ( about 400 x 400 mm), and they were driven with ball screws, I think a pair of them, one per side of each axis, with tooth belt drive between them. Motion control is always interesting... Strange that so much in these CNC systems is open loop?
@Taseden Жыл бұрын
What precision cast aluminum plate did you end up using? Same size as the 6061 flat bar you initially used? Thanks for the update on your machine. I plan on using 1204s as well.
@imnoexpertbut Жыл бұрын
Yep. I bought from "USA Metal Online" on ebay, and the plates are G.AL C250, which is "Medium Strength Precision Milled Plate, Alloy: EN AW-5083." Machined just fine.
@GoPaintman Жыл бұрын
Happy to see another video! I watched your series on the mini mill before I bought my first CNC.
@3dkiwi920 Жыл бұрын
What type of coupler did you end up using there? Looks slightly more complex than the spiral specials.
@imnoexpertbut Жыл бұрын
It's called a "diaphragm coupler," you can find them on amazon.
@OnGodd_ Жыл бұрын
Great vid.
@DDDengineer Жыл бұрын
Hello, Recently got interested in making a small CNC mill for Aluminum. Was almost ready to start Milenium Milo v1.5 and then found your channel. I go your metric Fusion project. I will finish the CAD with bolts and whistles, I plan to make it Duet-based ( I think wifi will handle the steppers just well) Are you OK if I publish it as an open-source
@imnoexpertbut Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's fine.
@DDDengineer Жыл бұрын
10x @@imnoexpertbut
@john_duncan Жыл бұрын
they make a thing called a drill mill, it has the start of a drill and the flutes of an endmill.
@dadoVRC Жыл бұрын
Ethanol is good to keep everything cool, to avoid aluminium to stick on the cutter because of heat. The issue with aluminium is that a little bit of material tend to stick on the tip of the cutter during the cutting, so it leaves marks during the rest of the rotation. Best choice is the flood coolant with a % of 5~10% oil. If you can't, light oils like WD40, but also plain kero, diesel fuel and so on are good, but they make fumes and they're quite flammable. I'm a professional metalworker but also a hobbyist, since after work I'm playing with metals, so I have some experience in both the fields. In last months I'm playing with a DIY CNC to make alu molds for injection molding, on a small milling machine without flood coolant. For those I tried various fluids, especially because I'm working in recesses (so I can flood the recess with fluid) and since the process is long I need something who stays in the recess while the machine is working and I'm drinking a beer with friends. 😉 It turned out that ATF fluid is a very good cutting fluid for aluminium. It's quite messy to clean out after the work, but it give good surface finish and it avoid totally material sticking on the cutter. Cheers from Italy!
@billbubnis3128 Жыл бұрын
WD 40 is not a lubricant.
@arneminderman3770 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great pro test.
@oldfarthacks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am having fun turning a 90 dollar Cheap Chinese X-Y table into something useful and was looking at determining the squareness of the axis and top. Your video gives much the same methods for checking as I was thinking about using. Nice little mill you have built there, well done.
@ferrari2k Жыл бұрын
Hi, that looks really good, could you make a video about it being shown in the dark with backlighting or does that not work?
@Taseden Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you are still on here, but figured I would ask. I am planning on building one of these, but curious how you drilled the holes on the bottom of column? Most drill presses don't have room for the 17" or so inches the column is. Thanks!
@imnoexpertbut Жыл бұрын
I used a hand drill, with a drill guide to try and keep the holes perpendicular.
@Taseden Жыл бұрын
@@imnoexpertbut Awesome, thanks for replying. I would have never thought of the guide. I'll look into getting one.
@markoreilly3414 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm 2yrs late ~ Have you tried Methalated Spirit, in a hand held squirt bottle. It's what I grew up useing. It evaporates like the Ethanol but not as fast, it will stay pooled on the job for cooling, while having a mineral based lubricating action as well. I am impressed with the WD40 finish you got !
@maekeoz Жыл бұрын
Excellent 😃
@giuliobuccini208 Жыл бұрын
Not perpendicular spindle?
@RCwallRaceTeamOfna Жыл бұрын
what is the dimensions of the aluminum bottom plate.?
@dencio1976 Жыл бұрын
How's the HGR15 holding up? I only ask cause I was thinking to get these cheap hgr15 as well for some aluminum cutting.
@imnoexpertbut Жыл бұрын
They're holding up well so far, no rust despite the lack of heating & cooling in my garage.