I really appreciate your videos. I’ve learned a lot from you. Thank you.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 күн бұрын
@@justind9019 Hey, thanks a lot! :) Can I ask what the most valuable thing you learned was? Just a friendly reminder to join the email list if you haven't yet, it will be the place to be for people who want to get maximum value out of this project in the future! :)
@ivanklemens481017 күн бұрын
tkanks
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast17 күн бұрын
@@ivanklemens4810 Thank you! :)
@Omegaxissuicido21 күн бұрын
I’m new to volleyball in general. Would this spiking mechanic work in indoor volleyball? What’s the big difference if that doesnt work in indoor as opposed to beach volleyball
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast20 күн бұрын
@@Omegaxissuicido Good question! I don't have super much experience of indoor volleyball, but I do have enough experience to say that I have scored in indoor volleyball with the wristsnap (I was able to hit over the blocker), so yes I'd say the technique and also allthe principles from this video should work also in indoor volleyball! However, in indoor volleyball it is I guess a bit more important to be able to put speed on the ball since there are so many defenders on the court, so in the long run you probably definitely want a core powered technique in indoor, but I don't see why you couldn't hit with the wristsnap technique in games while learning core powered techniques on the side!
@serotoninaossitocina594122 күн бұрын
Great channel! 💪🏐 From Italy
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast22 күн бұрын
@@serotoninaossitocina5941 Thank you! 😀 (Grazi??)
@vballinhb24 күн бұрын
Do you choose a different spike technique if there is not enough time for the full drawback of the elbow?
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast22 күн бұрын
This is an excellent question..! Soo, I'd say that as long as you have the jumping mechanics that allow for the low and quick elbow, there is no such thing as the low elbow swing taking too much time so that one has to choose to do something different. However, if a player who is playing with for example the kamikaze technique (forced rather than natural low elbow), and they get into a rushed situation where they cannot perform their overly long armswing "ritual" in the air, then yes, most of the time they will end up doing a high elbow swing instead, often without realizing it themselves, at least not while doing it (maybe they will realize it later if they analyze video of themselves), this has happened to me countless of times during my years that went into figuring this out, before I had the answers and was swinging with some variation of a kamikaze swing. However, there is always the exception of a set that is so bad that even the most athletic person cannot get to it and perform a full swing - in these cases either a pokey or more of a "tap the ball" type of attack is the right thing to do, and this will happen either with a high elbow drawback or sort of no drawback at all (just put the hand straigh up type of movement)... So in summary, a person who knows how to fast/natural low elbow swing, won't need to do anything else as long as the set is good enough to be "swingable" (doesn't need to be perfect but within what the athlete can adapt to with their approach), but then there will always be sets that are so bad that they require "emergency moves" to be played which means that neither high or low elbow players could take a proper swing at them - so something else has to be done. I hope that answers the question! :)
@Fungustus124 күн бұрын
volleyball bible for offense! this is great!
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
@@Fungustus1 Hahahah that I'll take as a great compliment! 😅❤ But honestly, providing a more complete guide to this sport than anyone ever has provided before has always been my goal, I hope we are slowly taking steps in that direction..! 😀
@jointder1424 күн бұрын
Great content! I’ve been looking for something like this for a long time in video format. I have read papers about the different arm swing mechanics but it’s a hole different story to see it all condensed in one video and also having the possibility in the future to join a lesson 😊
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
@@jointder14 Thank you! Yess that has been exactly the goal, to not just provide armswing theory but also tie it down to the whole spike movement in its entirety, with explanations of what style might suit what type of player, and also to provide step by step instructions to learn the different styles! Personally I am a bit worried that a lot of people out there just end up thinking that "low elbow is the way to go" from the other content, and then end up using this kamikaze thing basically, I can from own experience say that it most probably won't give the results that players are looking for.. Not that I never hit out or get blocked nowadays but I can say I got blocked and hit out many many times during these years when I was trying to figure out how the low and quick elbow works, but hadn't yet figured it out which lead me to do the kamikaze version a lot.. 😅
@babsiken262124 күн бұрын
The last swing has to be Carol from Brazil. Great summary - recently attended a seminar of George Giatsis (published the study : Spike Arm Swing Techniques of Olympics Male and Female Elite Volleyball Players two years ago) and it was interesting to see quite some similarities as well as different classifications in your video. Looking forward to more content
@Joscha-f6q24 күн бұрын
wow, how were you able to attend that seminar? Are you a national level coach?
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
@@babsiken2621 The last swing is Carol that is correct, good eye! Unfortunately someone else picked it out just a few hours before you! 😅 Yess, in the full version of this video that I'll create I'll also mention George Giatsis classifications, but I did find that they are not quite enough as the possibility of which types of armswings you can perform (at least in an efficient way) hugely depends also on the way your jumping mechanics work, for most people "just doing a low elbow swing" won't quite work, it will lead to the time consuming "kamikaze" version.. Way more content coming for sure, happy you found your way here! Also curious about where/how you went to this seminar! :)
@babsiken262123 күн бұрын
Yeah I feel like that is also why many people can easily do a low ellbow /circular swing when standing but it’s way harder jumping . 😅 He came to Austria last week and did some theoretical and practical lessons as part of the beachvolleyball trainer course which I attended .
@babsiken262123 күн бұрын
Not yet - I’m coaching youth players in the volleyball academy in lower austria (Niederösterreichische Volleyball Akademie) and currently I’m attending the beachvolleyball trainer course where George was one of the instructors
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast22 күн бұрын
@@babsiken2621 I see! :) Haha yes, of course it's easy to do a low elbow standing, you have revoved everything it takes to get into a low elbow position in the air after a max jump, and just do the last part! 🙃 If I put it this way, any coach or trainer that says that you or most players should swing with a low elbow swing, but cannot themselves do it while performing a max jump attack.. Let's say we can assume they are only partially informed on what they are talking about and their opinions might be best to take with some salt. Then of course all of our opinions are always not filly complete as this sport is infinitely complex so nobody can know everything, but if you as a coach listened to a "coaches trainer" that told you that you should tell all your athletes to swing with a low elbow, and they keep hitting late, into the net, out, into the block etc by forcing the low elbow that doesn't come naturally to them.. My suggestion would be to start questioning what this "coaches trainer" said. I have heard that this is what the coaches trainer in Sweden said at a recent seminar also, so it's happening in more places.
@juliochacon909924 күн бұрын
Friend, I would add an old school tip to your great work and that is to take into account the hand that is not attacking and the movement that rotates the hip. I would like to know your opinion. I leave the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYKreHyjn7CJh68
@sebastian5355524 күн бұрын
Carolina Solberg Salgado? :)
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
Yess! We have a winner!! 😁 I'm ina bit of a rush right now but I'll write more later, but we do have a winner! :) instagram.com/p/CFM4jh9p3gG/?igsh=bnMyM2lzODkxbjhr
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast22 күн бұрын
Soo! Please send me an email at [email protected] and we can see when and how we'll deliver your prize! :)
@luka-ir4jt24 күн бұрын
Amazing video ❤
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
Thanks! :)
@gigaherz24 күн бұрын
Anders Mol?
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
Armswing im the air is pretty similar, but not the answer I was looking for! :)
@henriklundqvist698324 күн бұрын
Bartosz Losiak! ;)
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
Hahah I thought you might be able to pick this one out, but not the one I'm thinking of! I think Losiak has a lower elbow swing and I think the funky thing in my example swing is how the arms go right before the jump..! :)
@henriklundqvist698324 күн бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast Yes, he has more of a circular arm swing at shoulder level. But I thought you meant the more circular back swing (before the jump) instead of the straight back back swing..
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
@@henriklundqvist6983 Ahh yes, maybe you are right that he has a circular type of thing going in the backswing, need to check! Anyway what this approach is supposed to be is basically that the left arm goes forward in a "circle" while the right arm goes "more straight back", and theres a player that has a very pronounced version of that! :)
@henriklundqvist698324 күн бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast Can it be Mr Schweiner?
@janaccify24 күн бұрын
Emulated swing at the end: looks like Arthur from Brazil to me.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
@@janaccify Had to go and look and I agree, pretty damn similar! But unfortunately also not the one I was thinking of..! But I'll add another hint here: I wouldn't be surprised if Arthur and the one I'm thinking of would have had the same coach.
@janaccify24 күн бұрын
The hitting part resembles that of Alison. But this is starting to feel arbitrary and I had my shot, though.
@talanky24 күн бұрын
Stayed till the end and that's a really good insight on how the armswing technique can detract from optimal timing. I have a high elbow swing but I think I may still benefit from a faster load to hit earlier in my jump.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
@@talanky Nice! Yess, if the swing takes too long (either because the swing is of a type that simply takes a long time, or one slows it down voluntarily, then the optimal timing (for technical performance) for hitting won't happen. Then I've heard about people deliberately delaying their swing to mess with the timing of the blocker(s), but thats a bit different. This video that I made earlier might help with cueing in how to swing "earlier" if you have a problem with that! :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXK4pWCOiNBomLMsi=-wzL8bn_oUWFWaPc This video could also be relevant..! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYKalKpvjsd3jM0si=iWdeAGZKcOITETa- Thanks for being here and commenting! :)
@talanky24 күн бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast awesome thanks for the reference I’ll check it out! I remember a couple weeks ago getting an open net and trying to hit it super hard and ended up taping it for an easy dig :/ and I bet this concept is involved
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
@@talanky Hahah you are not the only one in history that has pulled that move off! 😅 Either this concept was involved, or sometimes people "tense up" whem they want to hit really hard, which creates similar effects. The hardest best hits tend to be relaxed and flowy! :)
@jamesschoales419224 күн бұрын
Great video! My guess is David åhman. It feels like a defenders approach and swing.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
Not a super bad guess, but not the one I'm thinking of! :)
@talanky25 күн бұрын
Joined the email list! Thanks for all your videos over the years!
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate it! :)
@Joscha-f6q25 күн бұрын
Miles Partain approach!
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
Good guess but unfortunately not the one in my mind! :)
@Joscha-f6q24 күн бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast I thought I ruined the giveaway.. DJK also has this arm motion :D
@@Joscha-f6q Haha what is it in the example in the end of the video that you see? :)
@juliochacon909925 күн бұрын
Im in bro..Regards from Playa del Carmen
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast24 күн бұрын
Hahah nice! Hope you guys are doing well over there, hope I'll be able to visit again some time! :)
@thebigcezar25 күн бұрын
Great video! Any expectations to launch a video talking about golfers elbow? I think I've been suffering from that due to bad technique. lol
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast25 күн бұрын
@@thebigcezar Thankss! :) Hahaha, I have many many videos on my "want to create"-list, but one about golfers elbow isn't one of them, to be honest I have almost never heard about golfers elbow, usually it's the tennis elbow (?) I hear about..! Have you gone to a (good) physio to check it up? All I can think of is that in the comments section to my last spike technique video before this one ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYncqKaJqcqGm9k ), someone warned that the wristsnap technique supposedly could lead to elbow injuries.. I have never seen it happen though and the technique the way I teach it is very gentle on the body.. So who knows! You don't happen to have video of you attacking? Would be interesting to see the technique of someone who has elbow pain and also thinks it stems from their technique..! Haha I'm not sure, but if the pain actually comes from your hitting technique, then I guess the recommended "treatment" would be a 2 parallel strategies one: 1. Remove the root cause for the pain (learn a technique that doesn't aggrevate the injury.) and 2. Fix the already damaged tissues (this is where a good physiotherapist can help!)
@Jecker9025 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for all your content. I always find something new and useful to take away from your videos 🙂 Since I'm not very tall (175 cm), spiking has always been a challenge for me to improve-especially when it comes to true spiking, not just cutting or shoting the ball. I believe that mastering the wrist snap could be the most effective technique for me, as it seems to require the least amount of height above the net to execute a proper spike (correct me if I’m wrong!). For the past few months, I’ve been following a jump training program, and it’s been working quite well. I've already gained a few centimeters in my jumping height and continue to improve. Do you think it's possible to give a rough idea of how high above the net your arms should be to perform your introduces types of spikes properly? I know it might be somewhat subjective, but having actual numbers (in cm) would really help in setting specific goals for improving my jump height.😄
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast25 күн бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the comment! :) Hmm! So yes, basically in the menu, the wristsnap, the high elbow core swing, and the fast&low elbow (last of the low elbow techniques) all allow for a max jump+max reach at the perfect timing, so for shorter players I'd definitely recommend one of those! But then in general, I actually recommend all players to learn the wristsnap anyway, because it is fairly quick to learn and is useful in certain situations even if you primary swing would be something else. Actually for some other reasons too, it's just a good technique to learn. This video that I released earlier this summer talks about why I think one should learn it first basically, in case you missed it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYncqKaJqcqGm9k So yeah, learning the wristsnap first, and then after that deciding if one wants to learn more stuff after or just be happy with the wristsnap is what I pretty much think is the most efficient path for the vast majority of players, for many reasons. But when it comes to the question about jumping height.. I understand it can be easier to keep the training motivation if you had a specific height that you can measure if you reach or not! I mean technically even if one would just get the fingertips to the top of the net when max jumping, as long as you have a technique that provides good topspin to the ball and you aim deep into the court (and have your set a little bit further away from the net, maybe 4 feet or 120 cm), then you should still be able to max swing pretty much. But of course one would be very susceptible to getting blocked. However, I mean, more height is always better, but there is a specific height that comes to my mind which is basically when your wrist reaches one ball height higher than the net tape, so basically if you'd hit a ball perfectly with your palm at that height, the ball would be at the height of the second ball, if two balls were stacked ontop of eachother on top of the net. That height maybe wont be enough on the world tour, but I believe on the mens side it is still a height that will allow you to hit into the fingertips of some smaller blockers (if you hit with a relatively flat trajectory), and you should somewhat easily be able to hit around even medium sized blockers. So if you can't reach that height, maybe that would be a good goal? Probably pro level players range somewhere where they would be palming ball 3 or 4 or 5 perfectly if there were balls stacked on top of eachother on the net, but without having researched this too much my guess is that if one can "palm ball 2" if there were balls stacked on top of eachother, that would allow a player to be pretty competitive hard driven ball attacker at a pretty advanced level! Hope that makes sense! Do you usually measure your jump height in sand or floor?
@Jecker9024 күн бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast Thanks so much for your comment, it totally makes sense 😊 Normally, its only indoors, and there only from a standing position (so not with run-up). I’m in a mixed group training for beach volleyball, and our trainer always lowers the net a little bit (down to ~ 230-235 I guess). And it feels a little bit “better” during the training to play with that height because certain things can work. Just till that one point you play with a net of 243 cm. And then, all of a sudden, you realise that those cm do actually make a difference in terms of height.😅
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast22 күн бұрын
@@Jecker90Hahah I see! I mean to me it sounds like if your trainer both lowers the net and makes you not jump, he/she is training basically the armswing mechanics first (hitting at a lower net without jumping is a pretty good idea because the net height then becomes pretty realistic compared to how high the net will be relative to the ball contact when jumping and hitting on a regular height net), and is maybe planning to teach you to jump and put it all together later. This doesn't at all need to be a bad approach to learning things, but one will need to keep in mind that to spike well, the player needs BOTH good jumping mechanics and good armswing mechanics in the air, so one needs to learn both parts and also the art of combining them, and one shouldn't expect great results before all of these things have been addressed in one way or another..! Does that make sense?
@Jecker9021 күн бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast Haha, unfortunately it does. Its actually nice that someone can break it down so efficient. On the other side it also shows of how complex the whole "process" and procedure is to actually master it. I always feel like that the motions of hip rotation, arm, etc. to hit is actually not so complex to learn. Yet when you then need to to that in the air in one movement, things start to look different. But here, luckily, you also come into play with your videos to make it better and easier to learn 👌
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast21 күн бұрын
@@Jecker90 Haha yes, there are a LOT of moving parts in it. I've often heard the idea that "that should just take a couple of months to learn, right?", and honestly I do think it is possible to learn in about 2 months or so even from completely not having played volleyball or being super athletic before, but it would require high quality guidance on every step on the way. And basically noone has that kind of guidance with them so it ends up taking years. I hope I figure out a way to provide that kind of guidance at scale for a decent price somewhat soon, but yes, it's tricky. Some people even think it's one of the hardest skills in sport to learn!
@rickyspierenburg25 күн бұрын
Great video! Made me realize im prob doing the kamikaze, will try out compact bomb and speeding up the process. That arm movement looks soooo similar at the end, gonna guess Yorick de Groot?
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast25 күн бұрын
Nice! Many people who are wanting to have a low elbow armswing end up doing the kamikaze version..! Try it out, and feel free to let me know if it worked! :) You mean the arm movement looks familiar, but you can't exactly pinpoint to from where? :) De Groot is not a bad guess, but unfortunately wrong! A hint would be to have a look at what the arms are doing during the "penultimate step air time" between left step and the right leg plant! :)
@louisbianchi-cm7kx25 күн бұрын
hi, i think i m in the swimming type, but i ve been alwaay considering it a mistake since my coach tells me that i loose jump cos of the armswing, and that i should put nike form with HIGHT elbow. Coming from tennis where u drop elbow to serve for example, low elbow come natural to me but it seems i do a lot of mistakes and cant spike like usual volleyball players. So what should i keep training? i want to improve and i feel like even if its natural my low elbow tech is not good as people having natural hight jump higt elbow techinque. great video thanks
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast25 күн бұрын
Hey! Interesting!! There is actually a lot of stuff common with the tennis serve and the "swimming low elbow" as I call it, so it makes complete sense that you'd end up doing that if you come from tennis! Actually, if you'd happen to have video of you attacking, I'd love to see it! :) In terms of what I think you should do to spike better, I can't say anything for sure without seeing with my owm eyes what you do today, but it sounds like you'd have to start with learning to jump properly, regardless of what type of armswing that would lead to (so you might have to "allow" the armswing to become a high elbow one which will probably feel a bit weird for you at first.) And then after starting to jump properly, the armswing type that naturally gives a good timing+max reach should be aseessed, and then after that one can think about if you are happy with that or if you'd want to change the armswing into something else! That would be the rough path at least! Then there's a lot of details to each step, for a full jump you want to learn to be "relaxed" and possibly have the arms swing at a slightly different timing than what you are currently doing (if your "swimming low elbow" looks the way I imagine it does) etc! :) Hope that helps a bit, and thank you!! If you happen to have video of your attacking technique, feel free to post here or send to me privately! :)
@louisbianchi-cm7kx24 күн бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast hey thanks so much you are so open to talk i appreciate a lot. wel a video of mine spiking even tho sometimes i can be efficient in some way i m ugly as hell to watch ahah. yea ur point of view is really helpfull i know i have a big path to do hopefully i will be able to cos i love this sport. My main problem is timing my approach, plus adding armswing even in the timing, if i do without ball i can do perfect i dont know if it makes sense but in game i tent to throw arms up to "follow" ball too early to have a good impact otherwise i miss it timing. anyway If i would be able to make a video how can i submit? second issue is yea elbow, like sometimes i forgot things ahaha, i feel so much things to keep in mind that are not automatic... and yea even be relaxed is another issue i have that i m working on... thanks again tho!
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast22 күн бұрын
@@louisbianchi-cm7kxHahaha! 😅 Spiking really is a beast of a skill to tackle, there are so many moving parts in it. And changing one part might impact other parts in the chain, etc etc. Then there is also the whole process of how to change automatic movement techniques or habits, this is another field that people have so mamy misconceptions about how it is done so they very often just end up failing and determining that "it's too hard to change these things" and adapt the "can't teach an old dog new tricks"-mentality. Movement habits CAN be changed also at older age, it can even be fairly quick (a few days to semi automated new habits, a couple of weeks to fully automated), fun and interesting process if one knows the ins and outs of it. Anyway so any time I work witha client long term, I tend to get them to become more familiar with the technique changing process itself in some easier to change part of the game first (like serve receive, setting or defense) so that they get more familiar withthe process, before trying to do the same thing withing spiking. If I take a new client who is neither very familiar with spiking, or very familiar with changing automated movement patterns, and we try to change up things within spiking, we are basically trying to stack up 2 hyper complex processes on top of eachother, which almost always just overwhelms the athlete and we end up getting nowhere. So most of the time it's better to "respect the limitations of the brain" and work with and within those limitations rather than trying to do something that is actually most probably impossible to do. Same with a building a house, certain things need to be in place before other things can, if you try the mount the roof on top of instable walls, everything will crash. This is unfortunately what many coaches don't seem to understand in my opinion. Anyway, if you do get video, you can just upload it somewhere (for example here on KZbin with a private link or whatever, and either post the link here in these comments if you want it to be public, or email it to me at [email protected] if you don't want to be public with it! :)
@louisbianchi-cm7kx20 күн бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast wow thanks for response, that gives so much insight and a bit even of motivation to avoid frustration when u set as you said to much improvements as a goal and then you just fail to meet your expectation working outside brain and body limits...thinkning you are just bad learning easy skills... really cool point of view of your mindset!
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast18 күн бұрын
@@louisbianchi-cm7kx Hahah glad to hear you found it valuable!! :) But yes, "learning how to learn" or maybe "learning what learning mistakes to avoid" is almost step 1 in learning this sport, at least if you really want good long term results with minimum possible effort. But people in general (both players and coaches) really do use methods that more or less "hinder/block the learning process" way too often..
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@newaccount6936Ай бұрын
great video! it helped me a lot, but I still have problems bump setting when the ball has some weird spin on it after a defense; do you have any suggestion? thank you ;)
@LearnBeachVolleyballFastАй бұрын
@@newaccount6936 Thanks! :) Haha this might sound weird, but the only way I have found to bumpset balls that spin a lot (if they just spin a little you can just ignore the spin and bumpset with a "prolonged contact"/"imagine ball is fragile" and it takes the spin off) is to actually use the platform in a way that would create the same spin as what is already on the ball. So you basically just "continue" the spin, not really taking any spin off, not really adding spin either, just "going with" the spin that already exists on the ball. It's a bit tricky in the beginning and it's a bit tricky to decide when the ball spins so fast that it's needed vs not, but I think it might be the solution to that problem you mention. At least I have never heard any ither solutions (but I would be all ears if someone had one!)
@newaccount6936Ай бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast thank you, I've never had to focus much on bump set because I prefer hand setting haha, however I wanted to solve this problem and I tried for a couple of hours in my garden lol hahah trying your technique and other ways ( like swinging more arms/ less and so on) your technique works but I found it out difficult cause with some weird side spin is very hard if not impossible to create the right angle to carry the ball where you want; another way I found out is to simply ignore the spin, use more body and arms swings directing imaging where you want the ball to be; it's very hard to explain, you have to dominate the ball with your body/ arm movement but you have not to be too rigid/give to much force or you will enhance the spin and the ball goes everywhere haha, it's not about the force but the harmony of the movement itself; I found out that when you do it well the ball goes out with less or totally none spin in some cases !
@LearnBeachVolleyballFastАй бұрын
@@newaccount6936 Nice, I love the dedication! Yes I think I know what you mean with "dominating" the ball, it's like you need to have a soft/long yet still assertive contact with the ball kind of. Did you find that it worked even if there was "insane" spin on the ball? Because I think I use this "assertiveness" when the ball kinda spins, but then play "with the spin" when it "really spins", and I find it definitely takes some reps before the accuracy is there with the "spinning with the ball"-technique, but that it's not impossible..! But I have to go out and try the "assertiveness" also on balls that spin a lot! :)
@newaccount6936Ай бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast i have spent another afternoon trying to experiment this technique putting the craziest spin I could on the ball( pov: nothing to do better ahah): I have discovered that normally, if the spin is quite intense but not excessive, looking for prolonged contact with the ball works even if the main difficulty in this sense is to give height to the ball; normally I proceed like this: I position myself with legs bent perfectly under the ball and I build my platform without being too rigid and I arrange it parallel to the ground, from here prolonged contact to remove the effect and simultaneous push of the legs and arms and this is enough for me in most cases; in the case of really intense spin I have seen that this is fine, but not enough at all, then I tried to classify the spins into categories (top spin when the ball comes towards you, backspin when the ball moves away from you and side spin where the ball spins more on itself): let's take for example the case in which I am the libero and I want to lift a ball in position 4 from the center of the court: if it is a ball with back spin in addition to the technique of absorbing the effect I give a slight push of the arms and legs towards position 4 since the ball tends to go to the opposite side of the court, vice versa for the top spin. as for the sidespin I noticed that it is the one that apparently scares the most, but in this type of ball the rotation parallel to our arms is less, the greater one is perpendicular to our arms (as if it crossed horizontally with our arms to form an x): the rotation that creates problems is the one parallel to our arms so we can treat these balls as low spin and the ball will come out of our arms with the desired trajectory although with a strange lateral spin; the only problem I noticed with this type of spin is that the ball must be caught perfectly in the center of the arms, it is as if wedged between the two inclined planes that our arms form when they join together; I think that people who have arms that join totally or almost can be very advantaged in this sense: if the ball is contacted badly it ricochets to the right or left in a chaotic way: this is the result of two afternoons of experiments ahaha, I don't know how accurate it is technically, but at least for me it works quite well, I think that this type of technique can also depend a lot on the type of arms that one has! I hope I explained myself well hahah
@lloydamadeusАй бұрын
when educating, where are you standing? or more specific, where can i find those beach volleyball fields? oslo?
@LearnBeachVolleyballFastАй бұрын
Good question! In this video, the majority is recorded in northern Sweden, in a town called Umeå (all the talking in this video is recorded on some of the outdoor courts there, and the indoor videoclips of attacks are from the indoor facility there.) But when it comes to where I actually provide coaching (if that's what you asked), it's been kinda unclear in the years since the pandemic because I have often had to move for various reasons, and I still don't really know where I'll end up. But previously I've lived both in Oslo, Norway, and Umeå, Sweden for longer periods of time! 🙂
@gosiak32672 ай бұрын
🤯
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@gosiak3267 😅😅
@jairunet2 ай бұрын
Great interview, impressive creativity and hard work. Definitely looking forward to seeing what else the team can show us 😁 and continue having fun! David, if you happen to visit Japan, you can practice that game style you mentioned about playing against the not Olympic Level Player 🤣
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@jairunet Hahah! :) Yes, will be interesting to see what they will bring to the table in the future!
@davidcolombia2 ай бұрын
It works, thanks a lot <3
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@davidcolombia Amazing! :)
@HawaiianRR2 ай бұрын
I think this will be a game changer for me. Thanks for the vid 🤙🏽
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@HawaiianRR Nice! Feel free to come back and give a report later if you want! :)
@roquepv2 ай бұрын
Let him cook
@hipkinbay65672 ай бұрын
actually you painted with no thinking and that,s exactly the way to do it. same you explain in volley.LOL. that sketch was really asowme, better than the arm you did think about it.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@hipkinbay6567 Hahah that's good! I like to have a rough plan about what I want to say, but if I overplan, my presentation gets stiff..! Better to keep my natural energy in how I present things! :)
@hipkinbay65672 ай бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast we love your natural energy! best regrets from baleraic isles
@matija-ziberna2 ай бұрын
14:15 is main part of the video.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@matija-ziberna Interesting that you think so, I am happy that's the case! I mean I do agree that is like the culmination insight of everything in the video, but I still felt when I edited it that some people might enjoy the beginning of the video, but drop off before "it's all tied together" in the place you mentioned! But hopefully not!
@Tancreed352 ай бұрын
the problem i have when looking at his spikes is that his head is over the net while i 5'6 can barely get a my wrist over the net. Should i try increasing my vertical or just practice my spike and aim higher with possibility of getting out.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@Tancreed35 Haha, been a while since someone said my head was over the net.. 😅 My answer would be, definitely use a technique that allows for a max jump and max reach (for example the wristsnap), and why not also train your vertical in parallel? Actually I believe a lot of jumpint height can be gained from just learning better jumping technique, one doesn't necessarily even need to "train the muscles" too much to learn to jump quite a bit higher. But on top of all of that, "attacking intelligence" will be important also, knowing when to hit hard and when the situation isn't good enough to hit hard (meaning a hard hit will probably go out, get blocked, or into the net), learning what types of soft shots work when, etc!
@Jt-go4by2 ай бұрын
It sounds like your stirring macaroni
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@Jt-go4by Hahah wait what? 😅 What does macaroni stirring sound like, and where do you hear that in this video? (Genuinely curious!)
@Jt-go4by2 ай бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast in your voice😂😂😂
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@Jt-go4by Hahaha! 😅 I still don't know what it sounds like to stir macaroni, but I know my voice can be kinda raspy/clicky, especially if I sit down and speak with a bit less "power" in the voice, like in this video! 😅
@rush.n2 ай бұрын
My experience and a word of warning is that overuse of the wrist snaping technique can lead to injuries like tennis elbow not to all but some players especially for beginners. Again, my personal opinion, there is a reason there are basic, more traditional techniques and I understand that beach volleyball generally is very innovative and there are very few coaches who dictate how beach volleyball should be taught and that is partially the reason you are on your journey to find a better way but look at the classic volleyball, they had 100 years to figure that out. You can also look at AVP, it feels that the technique there is very solid or uniform comparing to European teams. No doubt the wrist snapping is a nice thing to be able to do but as an option instead of the main tool, let's say when the ball is set too close to the net and you have no room to swing. There is also a trap when it works for you and you might think that you have descovered a solution for everyone. Nevertheless good job with all the research and time invested into this.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFastАй бұрын
Interesting take, thanks for the feedback and reply! :) Always when I get someone claiming that the wristsnap technique would lead to injuries, I can't help but think that I'd want to see what this person (in this case, you) actually mean with the wristsnap. Like I'd want to see video. Because I suspect there is a great chance we mean different things with it, since in my experience it is maybe the most pain-free technique there is, I have never had a player (that I taught the technique to) complain about any type of pain with it, and some people have even discovered the technique because they needed a pain-free technique to use during an injury (Olympic beach volleyball coach Steve Anderson is an example of this, we talked about it in his episode on my podcast.) Also, I see both American and "rest of the world" athletes use it as a part of their repertoaire. However, some of the other comments on this video made me go experiment more with swings on floor (indoor volleyball), and I have realized that certain things that people criticize my ideas around, do make more sense in indoor volleyball. For example the lack of followthrough that I sometimes think is a good idea with a core powered+wristsnap teachnique in beachvolleyball, indeed is possible also in indoor volleyball, but a followthrough becomes even more "natural" in indoor volleyball, or one could say that stopping the arm becomes "more unnatural" in indoor volleyball vs beach. So I am not at all surprised for indoor trained people to think that I am wrong, given how things workin indoor, but I still believe that stopping the arm is both possible, good, and doesn't lead to injuries in certain situations in beach. Probably in indoor too, but I believe that will happen less often in indoor. But it's a complex world all of this, and I appreciate all the feedback and pushback, sometimes they make me think deeper and discover things I had missed, even if my initial reaction would be a defensive one (my ego thinking there is nothing more here to learn for me.) In this particular case, I'd love to see video of the technique that you believe can cause elbow injuries, so that I can try to judge if we are talking about the same technique or not. But I know there might be a lot of work involved with an ask like that so I don't expect anything, but would really appreciate it if it was possible! :) In the end, you are right in that I am trying to sort of discover roads that nobody has travelled before. But the only reason I do so is because the already existing roads neither taught me how to attack like some of the best players out there (David Åhman for example) or gave any satisfactory explanations for why it wouldn't be possible for me to learn to attack in that way. Would there have existed any good info on the stuff I have been curious about, I wouldn't have kept looking, but just learned from the work of others instead. But I guess so far I have been thinking that my fate became to figure all of this out once and for all (and later create resources around it so that nobody will ever need to figure this out again afterwards), so that's the journey I've been on. Just today I figured out a massive key to being able to hit with a technique like David Åhmans (quick low elbow core powered hit with wristsnap) also on fairly bad sets, so the search for even more answers has continued also after some of my breakthroughs earlier this year. Thanks also to everyone who helps me with this journey by offering feedback, thoughts and pushback. I hope I don't come off as closed-minded (I think closed-mindedness is the biggest obstacle to discovery) even if I disagree with some of the obviously thought through comments in here! :)
@bjarnejakobsson43932 ай бұрын
Jag har svårt att hoppa när jag ska smasha. Hur gör jag då?
@Bazoinger2 ай бұрын
What ball would you recomend that isnt all to expensive?
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@Bazoinger What beach volleyball? Or like a gym ball? If beach volleyball, I'd get maybe the old Mikasa or a Wilson or something if I tried to go cheap, depending a bit on where in the world you are!
@Bazoinger2 ай бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast Yes for beach volleyball, i am located in Sweden and was considering wether i should by the mikasa beach classic or pro. Noticed that the beach pro was quite the bit more expensive and was wondering if the quality makes up for it
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@Bazoinger Nice! I believe the "beach classic" is some kind of half-fake ball, avoid those! The new mikasa BV550c (I think it says beach pro on it) is quite expensive, if you want a good ball that is cheaper, get a Mikasa VLS300 which is the old version. All the beachvolleyball clubs have a lot of them (I am in Sweden too at the moment) and might be willing to sell some.
@Bazoinger2 ай бұрын
@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast I have looked in to it some more now and have decieded on the VLS300 but have a hard time deciding where to purchase it, was just wondering if you had any stores you would recommend that sell the vls300 and are trust worthy
@jonas56603 ай бұрын
so underrated. your content is absolute top-notch concerning quality of information. also, very wholesome appearance: "[...] some of you are gonna think i am a complete idiot for doing it" :D
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 ай бұрын
@@jonas5660 Hahah thanks! Yess, I have always had a very high focus on quality of information, and I at this point truly believe that I am if not the coach in the world with the most accurate information, for sure one of them. However, there's still something I am missing in terms of making all of this a very well functioning business so that I can truly produce everything that should be produced for everyones best. As you say, underrated, and that holds back both my life and the amount I can serve unfortunately..! I have some ideas of what might be holding me back, and I'm going to experiment with these things in the coming year, but I am always open for ideas and suggestions also, because sometimes we become blind to our own ceilings we put on ourselves..! :)
@Midnighter18863 ай бұрын
Yes, agree with the 80/20 result. In the middle of play, we instinctively put all effort into the hardest swing, which increases the odd of making a mistake. (Low ball contact point = net ball, or high contact point but no snap = out of bound.) But if you just put a little more focus on the wrist snap (and less other parts) rather than focusing on the entire body motion (complete body torquing and complete arm swing), we'll have less power, but much less mistakes. I'll take the much less mistakes.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 ай бұрын
@@Midnighter1886 Yes I agree fully! And once core powered wristsnap hits are fully mastered, we can stay very relaxed and hammer away in a relaxed way even without sacrificing speed. But at the point where that is not yet an option, I'd much rather also sacrifice a bit of speed to make sure you don't hit out or into the net. And I think the same applies always on sets that are so bad that you cannot adapt your body position into one where you can full swing (core powered) in a fairly relaxed manner, then one ought to do something else, and a shoulder powered wristsnap spike is one of those options (among with pokies, various shots, etc.)
@Midnighter18863 ай бұрын
Very nice simple explanation. The additional science behind it is like a catapult. All the sections contribute to the build up of power from the thick base and that cumulates at the small tip. Same as the spike. The power generation starts from the big torso base, builds up with multiple body parts, and leaving the body through the hand to the ball. Leaving out the torso, and just talking about the power generation after the shoulder, it's a combination of momentum power (= mass x velocity). So the first momentum power starts from your torso, which then transfer through your shoulder. Meaning the torso generates the circular speed (velocity) to swing the entire arm/hand (mass) through a circular distance. The power builds up with the additional momentum generated from your upper arm (Triceps) to create swinging velocity to carry the lower arm/hand mass through. Then more power is added with the forearm generating the velocity to swing the hand mass through. (This is the snapping portion.) Then it's the smaller hand muscles helping out the forearm to generate a little more power to bend the finger mass around the ball. Finally, the hand and forearm muscles will stiffen the fingers to efficiently transfer that power to the ball. Flimsy hand will generate energy much less efficient. Flexibility will give you additional rotational angle, which in turn will give more rotational distance to build up your speed (basically more time to accelerate the arm). Arm length will also contribute to more rotational distance. (Think of a short arm catapult versus a longer arm catapult.) Fast twitch muscles will give you quick acceleration, which contributes to speed (velocity = acceleration x time).
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 ай бұрын
@@Midnighter1886 Hahah I have never seen such an elaborate explanation, but I like it, it's pretty damn spot on. A couple of comments: Yes I agree the catapult starts from the core (or even all the way from the hips) in a core powered hit, and then in a shoulder powered hit the catapult starts from a "later stage" in a sense. A "shoulder powered" hit probably still requires at least stability from the core so it's not like the core isn't a part of the whole thing, but the player's experience is more like it's coming from the shoulder. Then regarding the triceps, I have never had an EMG machine or whatever it is that they measure muscle contraction with on my triceps when hitting, but I am fairly sure that in a well timed, relaxed and smooth hit, the triceps is actually relaxed throughout, and the elbow joint "just lets the force from further down pass through" without trying to "add more" with the help of a triceps extension. Then again, there are hits where the timing is a bit off and the body cannot produce a fluid motion to make the hand hit the ball, where the "arm tenses up" to some degree (these hits will usually be less powerful), in these hits I wouldn't be surprised if the tricep is in there trying to add some power to make up for the "power loss" from the fact that the power from further down (core or shoulder depending on technique) got lost because the "natural flow" of it got disrupted. Does that make sense? And the last comment is, you weite something like the hand tenses up like after the flow of the movement has gone through the wrist.. Again I have not measured this with a machine, but in my experience the way this works the best for me and what tends to lead to breakthroughs for players I coach is to already before the wrist snaps make the hand semi-tense, while keeping the wrist relaxed, and then just let the semi tensed up hand flick or snap onto the ball by letting the arm extend fully. But I am open to the possibility that in reality, what happens is actually something else if you'd measure it, but I always find that the actual descriptions that make the movement actually happen for the player, are more important than the descriptions of what actually happens. I'd rather have an athlete that knows how to do it than one who can in full detail describe the movement but not do it (although I think if you know both, it's the best, at least for a coach.. an athlete kind of really only needs to be able to make it happen.) This just reminded me that I need to make a video about descriptions that make a player learn a movement vs descriptions of the actual movement.
@Midnighter18863 ай бұрын
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast I'm a beach volleyball and engineering nerd. Lol. Been playing for 35 years on 3 continents so I love talking about beach VB. Ha ha. Nice channel you have. Also, very good English for a non-native speakers!
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 ай бұрын
@@Midnighter1886 Hahah nice, I can see that! Your description here could almost be made into a video itself! For the English, I have to thank my ex girlfriend who is American, my English would never be at the level it is without the day to day communication with her for years, and her correcting me here and there. Apparently she left some corrections out because she thought "I sounded cute" with certain errors (😅) but it is what it is haha, still have to be forever grateful for a lot of things (including a higher proficiency of English) that I learned from her!
@rev.enant733 ай бұрын
curious.. i notice that during your game play footage, you are not actually flexing your wrist when you hit, yet you are saying this is the technique we should learn, as demonstrated in your isolated, non gameplay videos. to me, i see torque, elbow extension, and solid hand contact, but almost zero wrist flexion (snap) during the live swing you show in this video. Why the incongruency?
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 ай бұрын
Good question, and I think it's super important I answer this properly, because incongruency can remove trustability completely. So first, I want to know we are for sure talking about the same thing, is it the gameplay hit that happens at 01:29 that you are referring to, or a gameplay hit from some other video of mine?
@Mikkarus3 ай бұрын
OMG, sorry man, but spending 20 minutes just to say that a spike consists of body stretching and wrist snap and suggest to start with the wrist part first... It should have been just in shorts with 1 min at max
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 ай бұрын
@@Mikkarus Thanks for the feedback! Everyone has their own opinion, and that is allright! My biggest fans (which is also my best income source) tend to appreciate me going into a lot more detail, and degree of accuracy, than most other coaches or KZbinrs, so that is what I do. A few minutes extra for accuracy that saves someone from misunderstanding things and going down the wrong path for years is well worth it for many people. If it's too long for you, you can always go watch the others but I cannot guarantee that what they teach is either accurate or will work for you! Meanwhile I will keep making content for the people that appreciate my work, those people have a similar mindset to mine anyway so I have a much better time with them! :) All of that being said, I will also start doing more short form content once I get enough time over for that, mainly for marketing purposes because it is easier to discover new people through shorter videos. I might keep those to Instagram though, we will see, haven't really decided yet. But until then, if 20 minutes is too much (I know this information can save certain people years of struggles), then you are probably better off at some other channel until maybe one day when I get some shorts going! :)
@LangerzzCPYInc2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the video? It's informative, which is what I want for improving my ability in the sport.
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast2 ай бұрын
@@LangerzzCPYInc Nice to hear! I missed videos like this when I started playing, made it way harder to learn!
@rickyspierenburg3 ай бұрын
I watched a lot of beachvolleyball youtube stuff and yours is the only one that rly made a difference in my learning beach journey. The platform video, lowering the left hand asap when you hit and now the hit where you focus on whip. Tnx man and awesome that you continue <3
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 ай бұрын
@@rickyspierenburg Thank you, I really appreciate it! It's a bit funny, because on one side, I feel very honored that people say these things, but on the other side, I know this is the case, because others basically don't understand the mechanics of this sport at a deep enough level. I tried to learn with the help of others, but always fell short of the results I actually wanted. The videos I have made so far in this project is about 5% of the stuff that I teach when coaching, and really just over and over peoples reactions are "well why didn't anyone tell me this before?" when I highlight some mechanical detail and tweak that they have been doing year after year when playing. So I really feel like I absolutely have the volleyball teaching skills necessary to make the most badass channel ever that will fundamentally change how many people view learning of this sport. I just need to find also the business/KZbin/etc skills to make this project a thing that is profitable so that I can actually be effective in getting all this stuff out there, rather than feel like I am working my ass off for no money, so that others can benefit and my life crashes. If I can create this project from a place of security and trust that things are all good and I am doing exactly what I am supposed to do, it will be so much better for absolutely everyone, compared to if I do it from a place of lack and stress. I still probably have lots more to learn to move in this direction, but I think a fundamental shift has finally happened which will make the rest possible too. But thank you so much for being and engaging, without you guys, this project wouldn't exist beyond a few of the first videos.
@Sentimos3 ай бұрын
I am always too early under the ball, any help to improve that? Like running later?
@LearnBeachVolleyballFast3 ай бұрын
@@Sentimos Good question. So I mean there can be a lot of causes for this, how you do your approach, how you and your setter communicate, you just being too rushed, etcetc.. But this is an opinion I have actually planned to make a video about, I don't think I will ever try to "teach someone to not be under the ball", unless I have first confirmed that they can do the wristsnap mechanism, and then STILL they are under the ball. You see thw wristsnap mechanism makes it possible to have a good ball contact also relative more straight above your body, so the range of where you can contact the ball well is bigger if you have mastered also that option. Also, it becomes the highest contact point possible when it is literally above your shoulder. Does that make sense? Only if I already know you can wristsnap well and you still end up under the ball all the time (which at this point literally means the ball will be behind your shoulder), would I start changing things in your approach etc, at least from a long term perspective. Short term, like if you were under the ball all the time and you asked me in a timeout in the middle of the game what to do (theres not enough time to teach you the wristsnap within a timeout), then yeah I might tell you to wait longer or "be more hestitant" with your steps or "imagine you need to contact the ball in front of you" or something in that fashion.. Does this make sense?