Nepo is the worst actress ever.

They thrive on dividing fan-bases. They love seeing people become more enslaved to consumerism and marketing rather than concsciously, honorably and wisely remembering and learning from the truths which these wonderful stories actually represent. They DESPERATELY want to convince as many as they can that their new, post-modern, identity-politics-filled bogus stories are the same as the originals becauae they physically look the same. The ones they need to convince in order to accomplish this horrible and insidious goal will make up the next generation. They know they can't convince those who have already read the books years before all of this, so they target those who don't yet know any better amd the parents who only watch things instead of reading.

This failed before it was released - Once again Disney can’t even keep their own Canon straight or depict era-accurate light sabers - this kind of BS already destroys the illusion. Just like the grand inquisitor alone ruined Kenobi 😢

… it’s because it’s woke and cringe.

Its a common lie that people spread that Herbert was upset about people not taking dune for the message he wanted because Herbert was writing god emperor when dune was published and was the warning he wanted to tell people. Dune was a Lawrence of Arabia prequel that he wrote to be ambiguous since he wanted the follow up books to show the result of following a charismatic leader. Making Chani his detractor was dumb since who dates a girl that just says you are a fraud when you literally have a planet of women that think you are a god. Watch the throne room scene from lynch with his speech to chani its 100x better than his, crying and catching a uber home new version

I don’t love it. Dune Messiah exists for a reason. They should have made Chani go through a realization that led to her cynicism, instead of having it be so immediately present from the start. It would have been a better bomb to drop on audiences who didn’t know the stories already, AND been more in line with the books.

Throughout my viewing of "Dune: Part Two" I felt very annoyed that Chani was not as she was written in Herbert's book. I suspected the change may have been to make Chani stronger to appeal to today's preference of treatment of women. I didn't know Herbert was dissatisfied with how she was portrayed in his story. That's enlightening, but at the same time, I think the character shouldn't have been changed for this movie. If Herbert was dissatisfied, his only recourse was to change her character in the next book. Villeneuve should have done the same. Keep Chani as written by Herbert, because he ended up working it out in later books.

Even before knowing the author’s intentions, or even if his intentions were to hail Paul as a hero, the whole thing looked like a dangerous trope of among other things, the white saviour. It is an obvious corrupted character and dynamic.

Considering how little media literacy people have these days, I think the change was warranted

There is zero room for any allegory in any adaptation of Tolkien's work ever, and ANYONE who disagrees with that fact can go read Tolkien's introduction to the Silmarillion.

" 'Indeed in nothing is the power of the Dark Lord more clearly shown than in the estrangement that divides all those who still oppose him.' " -Haldir.

Go give that low status thug more of your money, sheeple

stfu about all of your hate about whatever movie or tv show comes out, oh is not like in the books is not like that, go fakin make ur own movie with ur own money and watch it until you die

You and will smith are cringe

Change the name of characters, places at the title it will flop hard. The only thing people watch this because it's LOTR

It’s a disappointment because this generation is a disappointment, plain and simple. Previous generations put tens of thousands of hours into their craft before daring to proclaim themselves as pioneers of said field, yet this cheap skate joke of a generation puts in a few hundred hours, presses a couple buttons on a computer, pull fragile imbecile faces on social media and proclaim to be the next coming. We are less intelligent, less cool, and less genuine than those who came before, and our substandard ‘art’ is a direct reflection of that. We are a joke, we have no idea how to be real men and women with honour suave and heart. Everything about us is fabricated to be attractive and socially acceptable above all else at all times because of how weak and insecure this generation is, one look at any fool with a camera on them and you can see the visible terror within their face hidden behind their insufferable half smiles because of how afraid they are to let a single muscle be out of line lest they look anything but sexually appealing. This is all this idiot generation concerns with, there is no heart or soul or sincerity in anything. Take cursive singing for example, a pathetic braindead attempt at being artistic and quaint and cute, where musicians and singers would once work in harmony to serve the song, talentless social media stars nowadays try to make themselves the centre of attention with their substandard, insecure yet egocentric voices. Absolutely everything is about looking and being sexually attractive at all times, its utterly pathetic, it shows a gargantuan lack of intelligence and caters to the poisonous consumer epidemic, where art was once a thing to be savoured, it is now gobbled down and consumed like fast food thanks to cheap bullshit like netflix. Quick stimuli corrupts the mind, it teaches one to push for nothing to attain its positive chemical releases. EARN YOUR HAPPINESS. The consumer mindset is seeing the standard of art plummet, and the primitive mindset of the consumer revolves around unintelligent sexual response. Just compare game of thrones and how utterly shite that is to the masterpiece that is lord of the rings, depending on promiscuity where it severely lacks the stunningly poetic articulation and character depth of Peter Jackson’s early Tolkien adaptions. Awareness of this leaves little to be surprised about in regard to the rings of powers short comings. You need only go back a single generation to see genuine human spirit through art, and it is the total utter dependance on phones and social media that has stripped us of our ability to communicate, to be human, to show beautifully brilliant flaws and triumph. We’re insincere, fragile pathetic pretenders of the former greats that we could never be because of the barren hollow ‘real lives’ that we propose to live. I spit at modern art and the substandard specimens that create them.

The Annatar thing looks like it could be good….. if they went that way in season one. You know like fans were expecting? How exactly does this work now? They gonna retcon a whole season or we pretending it didn’t happen?

cool man

This helps me understand why the director made these changes. That said, the second part felt so drastically different from the first part. It also felt drastically different from the book. It was jarring. I think they could have done things differently. Made it more subtle and believable. Jessica was far too keen on converting the Freman. She was also made to be a monster that was pushing Paul towards drinking the water of life. Chani and Paul’s relationship felt forced. From her being so opposed to him, to falling in love, to her opposing him again. Can I also mention how off the Freman felt in the movie. Having their masks off, out in the open. They are a society all about water preservation. Those scenes just didn’t fit them. The first movie was great. The second has its ups and downs. I can’t say I like it. It just feels so off. I get what the director was going for, I respect the attempt.It just doesn’t land for me.

Paul is still the hero

I think it was nesessary because if Chani was the same in the movies as in the books the movie wouldn’t have the suspense and the meaning that it has

I'm sad Ruby Gillman flopped despite the huge potential that movie could've had in sequels being similar to giant hero media, while extreamly more awful movies like madame web got more attention

It was baaaaad. Like The Pest bad.

I thought it was a bit disappointing. Turned stilgar into a sort of half wit. And created a girl boss out of chani, all scowls and sand worm riding. Such is the way with modern film making. The romance between the two seems totally unbelievable.

It's because the studio wanted zendaya to have more lines and gurl boss.

I absolutely love Chani's intellectual glow up.

Because the novel is a masterpiece and the move spin off is a trash.

The differences are directly indicating the misunderstanding of the directors, writers, producers, audience etc. Chani is different because everyone has tik tok brain and can't think about layered motivations and plans within plans. They also have zero understanding of Chani's honor and responsibilities, that's why she left at the end to "empower" her because the entire universe being run by women in the books isn't female enough.

Read the books.

I can sum this hole thing in 2 words, It sucked badly, had to add a third word, so 3 words

Are the Bene Gessuits a "Good" version of Jesuits? Bene Jesuits?

That's a fair change for the film.

in film Chani behaves like every other Zendaya roles: fatherless teenager with acticist bahavior that have to be correct 100% of times.

4%, so one movie?

I actually like this change, they set it up well. Chani is not blindly loyal to Paul and that makes it much more interesting. Denis did a great job because he actually love and studies the source material. He’s look at the point that Mr.Herbert was pointing out to use and crafts the story based on the main idea with no wasted or energy with pointless subplots

No one can be more powerful than the max potential of someone birthed from the force, not even their offspring. However, Padme when carrying the twins did temporarily have the most force potential in the universe

1-100

I liked it. Reminded me of older marvel movies that actually told a story.

They let it burn for they could get the rights for Spider-Man and the others it deserves to be laughed and hopefully they just gave up making these pointless movies

Denis is a genius for this

Didn’t watch the movie, but if you’re actually stupid enough to see Paul as a hero at end of the books, you simply should not be reading Dune as you don’t have the cognitive ability to digest such media.

It was an origin story that should’ve taken no more than 30 minutes, but it was the whole movie

it was absolutely horrible. the performances were disgusting and phones in. the characters were badly written. plot forced. at one point early on a character actually said “how are you poisoning me?” because it was so dumb what was happening. bad movie, worse video about the bad movie. 😊