How to play hymns in church part 1
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@malcleitch7106
@malcleitch7106 8 күн бұрын
Thank you for your interesting an knowledgeable comments and enjoyable performance. I like the ebb and flow and biting harmonic line of the prelude. I was interested that you often omit 16` in fugues and will take that on board.
@michaelunger3933
@michaelunger3933 10 күн бұрын
Hi, My dears, who are reading me. I looked for the very last composed piece of music by Brahms. And I guess, I found it. I wanted to see how Brahms 'developed' at the end of his life. I'm convinced there has been a development. I'm so amazed about this piece of music----I listened to it four times----and the whole interwoven harmonic and melodic, the great realm of Brahms musical ideas opened up to me!!! A magic moment and experience!!
@malcleitch7106
@malcleitch7106 17 күн бұрын
I did not know the piece. I had thought of Walther or others of his time. Enjoyed it.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 17 күн бұрын
Walther is very close indeed - in style and in life (only a few years age difference and in neighbouring towns). Good thinking! Tim
@JSB2500
@JSB2500 17 күн бұрын
What I can do is .... say "Beautifully played Tim!" 😃
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 17 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! Nice to hear from you again. Tim
@andrewloose3419
@andrewloose3419 18 күн бұрын
Buxtehude?
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 17 күн бұрын
Very nice thought. Buxtehude's chorale preludes tend to be a bit more elaborate, though - less chordal, more notes per beat. But certainly in the right area ... Tim
@johnspeller3666
@johnspeller3666 18 күн бұрын
I got it easily. Very characteristic of his style.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 18 күн бұрын
Well done! Tim
@TamsinJones
@TamsinJones 18 күн бұрын
I guessed wrongly (but closely, I daresay) that it was Pachelbel. On the basis of being similar in figuration and harmonic idiom to Bach, but slightly earlier. On reflection, a more Pachelbelian structure would have been to have a lengthy section of fantasia for manuals followed by a long-note statement in the pedals with climactic figuration above. Another fine video, much enjoyed!
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 18 күн бұрын
Really good reasoning, and not at all far off! And I guessed you would like the instrument ... Tim
@EdwardConnor-l4u
@EdwardConnor-l4u 20 күн бұрын
I agree, a wonderful work and a great performance
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 19 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Tim
@adrianhockey9334
@adrianhockey9334 20 күн бұрын
First class explanation and insight into this piece of Bach, including the playing! Thank you.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 20 күн бұрын
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it! Tim
@Giggleswick84
@Giggleswick84 21 күн бұрын
Sublime.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 20 күн бұрын
Yes, a wonderful work! Tim
@intermezzo-musikalischestr2987
@intermezzo-musikalischestr2987 24 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for this interesting video! Sometimes I played the prelude myself and I'm positive surprised, that I'm not far away from your approach with my modest skills. But I also heared it played very, very slow and with full organ, sounds like a funeral march. Do you think, it is an option too?
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 21 күн бұрын
Thank you. I'm very pleased that we're in agreement about the performance style for this piece. I don't like the idea of playing it very slowly and heavily. Often, if the tempo is slowed down very much the pulse of the piece perversely accelerates becase rather than a "crotchet" pulse it sounds like a "quaver" pulse, which then becomes very busy and fussy and does not coincide with the narural harmonic rhythm of the music. And this seems to me to be a gentle and flowing work, so I am not sure that a big full-organ sound quite works. But it's always good to experiment! Tim
@intermezzo-musikalischestr2987
@intermezzo-musikalischestr2987 20 күн бұрын
@@timrishton5871 Many thanks! A flowing work - that's a good description.
@Many-towerd-Camelot
@Many-towerd-Camelot 27 күн бұрын
End of the 18th century sometime? Same sort of time as that Vierling? Gorgeous organ, anyway.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 24 күн бұрын
Yes. spot on. And yes, it's a lovely organ! Tim
@TamsinJones
@TamsinJones 29 күн бұрын
The harmonic language and texture enabled me to guess the era easily, but I didn't know the composer. I did, however, immediately clock that you were playing a Bernard Aubertin organ. I worked at Newcastle University, and we have one there-a marvellous instrument.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 24 күн бұрын
Well done to get the style; not really surprising that the composer was rather unfamiliar. I'd heard that there was a new Aubertin at the King's Hall. I last played a concert there on 6 March 1985 - but that, of course, was the old Nigel Church organ, which was still very serviceable at that time. I played Buxtehude and Schmidt, I remember. I was surprised to hear that it needed to be replaced, but I'm sure the new organ will be a great asset!
@malcleitch7106
@malcleitch7106 29 күн бұрын
I rather like the rhapsodic aspect of the prelude, and its harmonic structure. I was thinking whether the pedal entry in the fugue could be bolder, but that might not fit the light dance-like style of the movement.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 21 күн бұрын
Certainly, there are attractive things about all of these works. I just feel that this one is less accomplished than the others and bears signs of a composer who is struggling a bit to get it all together. But I'm glad to have all these pieces! Tim
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Other "mystery pieces", see kzbin.info/aero/PLABcWksVExXvxC7tUrbVg2kfqxyJGdrgX
@Thueringerorgel
@Thueringerorgel Ай бұрын
Impressive single handed page turning, registration by hand and everything. And great sounds from the Aubertin-Organ. 😊
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Tim
@EllenMoore-fb6nr
@EllenMoore-fb6nr Ай бұрын
Lovely work. Section 3 confused me terribly for a moment, and then I remembered "Sturm und Drang" and it all seemed to fall into place. Couldn't work out the plot, though, until you related it. I do love this series with its constantly new challenges.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Yes, it's textbook "Sturm und Drang" : absolutely right! Tim
@bobdear5160
@bobdear5160 Ай бұрын
It reminds me of some if the vocal lines from Faure’s Cantique de Jeane Racine, but I’m fairly sure it isn’t that!
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
You're quite right, it isn't. But it's a good thought! Tim
@stevebruns4237
@stevebruns4237 Ай бұрын
Beautiful music on a wonderful organ. Thank you, Tim, for giving me five minutes of peace and pleasure in the middle of a work day.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Thank you Steve - that's really lovely. (Apologies for the belated reply; was away until today!). Tim
@geriatricyclist1950
@geriatricyclist1950 Ай бұрын
Beautiful
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 20 күн бұрын
Thank you! Tim
@jean-yves9924
@jean-yves9924 Ай бұрын
It is ” Cemetery ” , of John Depressed !
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
More moderato than grave, I think. Tim
@DavidMaurand
@DavidMaurand Ай бұрын
interesting that the organ has no reeds.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Apart from the trumpet on the Hovedverk. Yes, it was a question of priorities and of the profile that was wanted for this small and intimate church: a feeling that one wanted to do certain things well than try to do everything. But the organ functions very well as an entity, even if here (as on any instrument at all) there are always things we might wish we had ... Tim
@DavidMaurand
@DavidMaurand Ай бұрын
@@timrishton5871 I missed the Trompet 8' in the specification.
@SirReginaldBlomfield1234
@SirReginaldBlomfield1234 Ай бұрын
This is so boring I'm losing the will to live.
@Giggleswick84
@Giggleswick84 Ай бұрын
Then take up base jumping or land mine clearing, mate - anything but sitting there telling us how boring your life is
@Glenn-In-PA
@Glenn-In-PA Ай бұрын
Beats me,, 😢
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Yes, really difficult one, this! Tim
@gallium162
@gallium162 Ай бұрын
I didnt hear much counterpoint nor a well-structured phrasing, but the melody was not very attractive to ears, so decided it should be late romantic rather than barouqe or classical. Smetana came into mind at first, then Grieg, coz the vibe feels like Peer Gynt to me.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Very nice idea - I can see that there is something a bit Scandinavian about the feel. Tim
@erikthenorviking8251
@erikthenorviking8251 Ай бұрын
Gorgeous! Thank you.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Tim
@julianeb1412
@julianeb1412 Ай бұрын
Can I get the sheet of music somewhere?
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
I'll happily give it to you. Drop me a line (use the "contact" link from the appropriate language on www.rishton.eu) and I'll email it to you. Tim
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Other "mystery pieces", see kzbin.info/aero/PLABcWksVExXvxC7tUrbVg2kfqxyJGdrgX
@kwkw5711
@kwkw5711 Ай бұрын
Well i thought film music from 1930s but in actuality film music from 1970s
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
It was a good train of thought! Tim
@JonathanSilverton-ol7kn
@JonathanSilverton-ol7kn Ай бұрын
Do I get a reward for saying that it is not by Pierre Boulez
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
I'm sure you should ... Tim
@martinholcik1597
@martinholcik1597 Ай бұрын
this one got me stumped. Something rather modern. Early 20th century?
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Good reasoning:the G# minor bit certainly seems to say 20th century. Tim
@philiphumphrey1548
@philiphumphrey1548 Ай бұрын
I thought it sounded like film or TV music, but I just couldn't place it. I was wondering whether it could be Finzi, but ruled him out because it was supposed to be someone not known for that type of music.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Finzi was a good idea, although it's not quite "English" enough, maybe. Tim
@normanchristie4524
@normanchristie4524 Ай бұрын
Sorry, but the view of the graveyard tells all.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
More moderato than grave, I think. Tim
@Giggleswick84
@Giggleswick84 Ай бұрын
@@timrishton5871 Ha ha! Lovely response!😃
@JSB2500
@JSB2500 Ай бұрын
Italian? IDK! 🤭
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Certainly Italian connections. Tim
@intermezzo-musikalischestr2987
@intermezzo-musikalischestr2987 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I couldn't identify the composer ... But it sounds very beautiful.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Really glad you liked it! Tim
@EllenMoore-fb6nr
@EllenMoore-fb6nr Ай бұрын
No idea at all. But it's really lovely.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Thanks. Yes, I really like it too. Tim
@schil109
@schil109 Ай бұрын
There is another argument as to why playing the pedals with toes in 18th century music or older: old pedal board often show that the keys are not positioned horizontally, but that the highes point of each key is situated under the manual(s) and the lowest part is under the bench. This makes using heels uncomfortably, if not almost impossible, certainly in the middle of the pedal board
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
That's an interesting point, thank you. Certainly, pedal boards varied from place to place and from builder to builder rather more than they do in our modern, standardised age. I've not really encountered that problem to any great degree, especially in mid-Germany, but it is true that it can often be more comfortable to play with toes on an 18th-century pedal board. Tim
@JeremyDuckMusic
@JeremyDuckMusic Ай бұрын
I really appreciate this video. Thank you! I played this this morning in church, but I have struggled with figuring out how exactly to interpret all these slurs.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
I'm really glad it was helpful. Would have liked to hear you playing it this morning! Tim
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Ай бұрын
I'm stumped on this one.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Not surprised. Rather a tricky one, this. Tim
@bornagainbach2731
@bornagainbach2731 Ай бұрын
I searched the song on Google, and it placed it with the right composer and title.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
I'm sure that's cheating! But good initiative! Tim
@photonatjag
@photonatjag Ай бұрын
Do you have the arrangement available possibly to purchase?
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
I'll happily give it to you. Drop me a line (use the "contact" link from the appropriate language on www.rishton.eu) and I'll email it to you. Tim
@normanchristie4524
@normanchristie4524 Ай бұрын
@@timrishton5871Good on you!
@TamsinJones
@TamsinJones Ай бұрын
Gosh, what a curveball! My guess is Johann Strauss II, but only because the river footage seemed to be a cryptic clue. It could even be from our own time, given that so many composers have returned to a frankly Neo-Romantic style.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Yes, that was a tricky one, but your reasoning was good! The scenery around the church had no particular agenda - I just thought it was more interesting than watching me playing the piece! Tim
@TamsinJones
@TamsinJones Ай бұрын
@@timrishton5871 Actually, I take great interest in watching others play. It's very instructive.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
@@TamsinJones Thanks - I'll bear that in mind in future episodes! Tim
@musicfundamentals9938
@musicfundamentals9938 Ай бұрын
Thank you. What do you think of Latry using a chime stop in the pedal for this?
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 Ай бұрын
Always fun to experiment a bit - and we need a bit of fun sometimes! Tim
@TamsinJones
@TamsinJones 2 ай бұрын
I've now reached this piece in my journey through the Orgelbüchlein. It's driving me mad 🤯. I'm struggling with all the hand crossings and I find myself using same foot to play many adjacent notes more than I would like with bar 13 giving me special grief (I try to use all toes for Baroque music). If you had any advice for sorting out the footing, especially, it would be much appreciated over here.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
Hi Tasmin. Congratulations on getting such a long way in Orgelbüchlein! Bach had an active and, I think sometimes rather wicked, sense of humour, and it seems to come out in this prelude (and later on, in the one on the 10 Commandments, but that's another story). I do wonder whether the eccentricities of this piece, such as some odd harmonies and those almost demented scales running so widely up and down the keyboard causing the hand crossings, are Bach's comment on the undoubted eccentricities of the hymn's author, who attempts to re-tell the entire Passiontide narrative in the space of a single hymn, as well as drawing attention to himself in the first and last verses (ending up asking us to think of him in his prison cell!) and by "signing" it in the first letter of each verse. Who does that sort of thing in a hymn? In any event, the pedal line here is one of those running bass lines that really does not need (or even want) to be particularly legato. Think of it in terms of an orchestral bass line in a cantata movement. Each quaver, more or less, would tend to be lightly defined. This means that we in most places can freely use the same foot from one note to the next. In bar 13, from the Eb to the C would in any case be separated because it's syncopated. The same from the C to the Bb and the G to the F#, while from the A to the Bb to the A would be in order to highlight the mid-bar beat. So all those notes can in any case use the same toe if need be. That makes it all a lot easier! Tim
@TamsinJones
@TamsinJones 2 ай бұрын
@@timrishton5871 Hi Tim, I agree old Sebi had a bit of a sense of humour...but right now I'm not laughing. Hopefully I will get there, though 😊 I guess I was looking for 'permission' to play adjacent notes with the same foot, especially in the right half of the pedal board. It makes me realise that I've probably been torturing myself unnecessarily by trying to play all-toes and legato, instead of a more detached ordinary touch. Also, I was watching Ton Koopman play and he often seems to same-foot scalic passages, so if he's happy to do that, that's good enough authority for me. It would be very interesting and instructive if perhaps you might consider having a pic-in-pic image to show what you're doing with your feet. I'd love to hear you play more Böhm, and if you made a series on him wth the pedalcam then I for one would think that fantastic 😊
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
@@TamsinJones 'Permission' definitely granted - but it's always worth considering which notes ought to be the most detached (i.e. where you want to place emphases) because it is often an active help to play two notes with the same foot where you're wanting to highlight the second one -- it forces you to articulate. In this piece it also helps to practise those scales in a variety of dotted rhythms, or even (in the trickiest places) playing each note twice. Anything to get those patterns implanted into the brain. But I'm glad the outlook is brighter on this piece. Just grin and enjoy the absurdities! Yes, I'd love to do more Böhm -- wonderful composer -- and will look into the technicalities of filming the pedals. Thanks for the suggestion! Tim
@Many-towerd-Camelot
@Many-towerd-Camelot 2 ай бұрын
I like it that these are 'real' performances, done in a way 'live' as part of a talk, rather than clinical CD-type recordings. It gives them a sort of immediacy and appeal that easily gets lost when recordings are over-processed and edited. 😀
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for that. Yes, it's a lot more fun making that sort of recording, too! Tim
@Giggleswick84
@Giggleswick84 2 ай бұрын
4 very different organs, but all wonderful. All tracker action?
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
Yes, all organs that I love playing. All tracker action and all of a design that an 18th-century German would have felt comfortable with. Tim
@EurynJones
@EurynJones 2 ай бұрын
Cyfres newydd ddiddorol! Edrych ymlaen at wylio mwy yn y dyfodol. Cofion Euryn
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
Diolch, Euryn! Mae'na fwy ar y gweill! Tim
@EllenMoore-fb6nr
@EllenMoore-fb6nr 2 ай бұрын
Lovely to have all these great performances together - thank you!
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
You're very welcome. Hope you enjoy them! Tim
@orgelnimnorden
@orgelnimnorden 2 ай бұрын
My first guess was Rinck, but after about a minute I thought, it might be one of those really unknown Middle German Composers from the late 18th century/early 19th century like Umbreit, Vierling or Fischer. And indeed, I wasn't wrong with that guess.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
Excellent guesses! You know your repertoire very well! Wirklich interessant, Ihre Filme über Orgeln im Norden zu sehen. Vielleicht ist Ihnen aufgefallen, dass die Hälfte meiner Serie „8 Kleine Präludien und Fugen“ (kzbin.info/aero/PLABcWksVExXvcMfZzhf9XLHeXqlSj0QiJ) auf Orgeln in Mecklenburg Vorpommern gedreht wurde. Tim
@nikitademodov3446
@nikitademodov3446 2 ай бұрын
While I agree with your interpretation, I disagree with your interpretation of the 'sign' being the letters 'th'. It seems much more likely to me that the 't' is a natural sign and the 'h' is a half note.
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I see where you're coming from, but it seems just a little unlikely. Walther's Lexicon has no entry under halbe*; he uses the more usual Latin term Minima, and I suspect that his cousin Bach would have been even more likely to. Tim
@nikitademodov3446
@nikitademodov3446 2 ай бұрын
@@timrishton5871 Oh I think you misunderstood me, sorry. I'm German and had some trouble expressing what I meant in English: I meant that what you interpreted as an 'h' isn't a letter at all. Instead it's a half note drawn on the space above the first line (where the B would be!). And thank you a lot for making this series! It's incredibly helpful!
@timrishton5871
@timrishton5871 2 ай бұрын
@@nikitademodov3446 Yes, I'm sorry - I misunderstood. But I don't think it can be a note, because nowhere else in the entire manuscript does Bach draw a note with a curved stem like that. His stems sometimes can lean a little (not quite vertical) but are always straight. Aber es wäre eine wirklich gute Idee gewesen, die das Rätsel hätte erklären können! Tim
@nikitademodov3446
@nikitademodov3446 2 ай бұрын
@@timrishton5871 Interesting! Thank you for sharing your expertly knowledge! Nikita