this is a common request

There’s these things called amraams

I'd love to see sim battles turned into a true "combined battles" kind of game mode (now hear me out) ground battles and naval battles already take place in air sim battles. what if it was made so that the ground battles and naval battles that happen in air sim battles are actually PvP matches. they could make a few generic city templates like the bases that get bombed and that would populate a sector for a ground battles to commence (with actual players queing into ground sim battles) and the same deal for naval you just wouldn't have to add in any assets and the results of those battles determine the frontline on the map. Very ambitious game design but that would make the gameplay and all the different vehicles really become relevant to an overall grind

this is actualy good idea it could atleast make the servers more populated and could manage to engage players in pvp instead of farming bots and bombers. alsoo they kinda would have to put the mouse controls from rb to the sim for helis as theyre... incredibely hard to control on a stick and pedals.

I hope the snail does it

Most helicopters can be added into Air SB right now in fact without any issues, the only helicopters that would be an issue is the ones with the following equipment : TY-90 AAMs Vikhir Any other helicopter should be fine to enter air SB, and if we just tell gaijin that those 2 missile types are just too broken for the mode, they just might exclude the helicopters having these weapons. Tho it is Gaijin and they might not even care and still not add helicopters xD

unfortunately I do not think that the g91 (i every version) ever got to use missiles.

Air sim just seems like a bad idea all around. I haven't played sim mode, but doesn't it have a much larger learning curve than arcade and realistic? Basically you are going to take a limited pool of players and scare off the more casual players. Even if they helos can fight jets but it will be difficult. And I feel like you will have air players crying if they get shot down by a helo. Also what about lower tier helos? You'll go up against some prop planes which are particularly good at low and slow hunting. If you want to have fun in helos, go play Heliborne. Gaijin doesn't give a shit about helo players. They could make the helo PVE mode fun, if they put actual effort into it. Make it so that only utility helicopters can capture points, add infantry mobs and machinegun emplacements that will shoot at you. I mean honestly just put the slightest bit of effort.

Great video but I think the dominant tactic if or hopefully when helis come to EC battles will be to use any fixed wing aircraft as a 104, you acquire from long range with the help of radar if possible and scream in low and fast, ideally from the sides and then disengage keeping the speed and pulling to the rear of the helicopter (making it harder for it to engage) whilst staying very low and using terrain, then repeat the whole thing until it goes down, never staying within missile range for any longer than the time needed to give it a burst and jump. One important thing to note is that helicopters are not designed to dogfight, so most have aboslutely no rear visibility which will be helpful both for engaging and disegnaging. Maybe you could give it a shot and see if helis will still be able to keep their own.

PVE should have share reward

it would be more fun if they had single or coop missions for tanks and helicopters

There are only enough targets for 3-4 players in heli PVE and you got bunch ka50s to compete with Huey

Better aa at the airfield 14:02

great idea how do we get this into the game

Fun fact, I love to fly the Mi-24 in simulator mode, but I never had the chance to actually play it in simulator battles

Wish they had a mode with simulator maps. With whatever the max player count is with two teams. Bigger areas to capture, do like 60% of the center map in open and the 20% on both sides is friendly or enemy territory and will be shown on the map.

This! Have been playing sim air with a group of friends lately, and we just discussed how perfect helicopters would fit in air sim!

did anyone post this in the forums yet?

Another great idea would be moving ground targets from the center of a map in to more dedicated local areas. Its not a new things, some maps got it (at the start, or after some updates) They mostly did it in favor of ground attackers, but it would be also good for helis.

at that point add ground sim aswell to it

I play air sim, I kind of main it, whatever, I agree with you completely

this would be a dream

sounds good, now refund all bushes to all players.

naval sitting in the back crying

You said it bro as it is. Hope Gaigin pickup on that !! Got my first cobra month a go, and was so pissed that cant play it on air sim batles.

A big issue. Hate they dont fix that.!!! Or allow us to use heli in custom battles

Jokes on you, I’ve had it up to 750 mph 😅😊🎉

🎉

That g-force would incapacitate most pilots.

Helping out a battle with an Huey while F4'S and Mig 21's battle above the skies. Sign me the f up.

My thoughts… 1. Cool idea, this shoujd be tested. 2. Are the heli’s going to be in full realistic sim controls? If so, the population of potential players will dramatically drop. If not, there might be some real integration issues. I think id still like to see server population grow even if the heli pilots are in realistic controls. I just don’t know if the snail can have some players on full real while others are not due to coding 3. We already have undetectable smokeless missiles called aim9M so it wouldn’t be new. Not saying it’s not broken, but it isn’t new. 4. An issue. I have a couple vtol compatable aircraft, imagining I take the vtol out exclusively in hover mode sounds challenging. To bring a slow, hard to aim and easy to crash aircraft out as it might only lead to frustration. 5. Nice videos.

Can you imagine being in an f3h2 taking off in a 9.3 sim match only to get smacked by an mi8tv you cant see, whos hovering just outside your airfields spaa range, using an irccm igla you cant flare even if you had flares, and it has 7 more before it needs to re arm? Id quit sim on the spot. Sim ec's player counts are low enough without helis driving them away just to make a 2nd heli ec gamemode. Terrible idea.

adding it ontop of the PvE would be a good idea , bc some people dont have the sim layout, but i also thing Heli's could also be in Air RB and take up the bomber slots

Really good idea. 😊❤

Heres my question.... What could be the negative impacts of doing this? If there isnt any, or theyre super small problems, why not just go ahead and do it. Let it run for a few weeks, and see what people think.

still waiting for full engaement

After i tried to preview the new AH-1W on the Dev server, it crashed and i haven't been able to boot into the Dev server, ever since Edit: I tried to boot into Dev server as i was watching this, My PC fucking Bluescreened, checked the logs, and yep, some internal bs in WT Dev folder caused the bluescreen, fun isn't it?

Warthunder hasn't changed at all with the ridiculous grind and is just digging a deeper and deeper hole with all the premiums and vehicles locked behind ridiculously grindy events to force you to pay - and then those vehicles are simply gone to any new players.... So fucking stupid.

Grr angry comment (the heli vs jet air sb vid was epic and this one was a bit funny, keep it up 👍) I hate yuo

gotta love how they take one of the most fun plane (F-5), upgrade it massively and make it even more fun (F-20).... then decide to make it a premium behind a 75$ paywall that wont be touchable till it finally goes on sale in a year or so and add no techtree equivalent.

Looking forward to the alpha jet

lets gooo

I would love to fly helicopters in sim EC. It would be very nice to have a bigger area to play in than what is currently available in sim ground.

Never ask a man his salary Never ask a woman her age Never tell diamondback he is out of flares

Italian starting heli is so horrible I gave up using it for either PVE or ground RB

I like the idea, but don't completly remove heli PvE. I love heli PvE. It's nice to take a brake from PvP. If anything make a few miner changes to heli PvE. Like , make it to were instead being in a heli 9.3- or 9.7+ BR match. Add a 9.7-10.3 BR match zone for heli PvE. In heli PvE, once you hit 9.7+BR and your using an inferior heli with it weapons, you are either gonna get slaughtered by the AI or out gunned and out performed by better helis or wallet warriors. Or, instead of adding that 9.7-10.3BR matches, drop the players per PvE match from 10-12 players down to no more than 5.

We have ppl that dont know how to play arcade pve, and u want to play sim only 💀💀

I love heli PVE, it is in my opinion very profitable if you stay to the end, also there are memeable stuff we can talk and laugh at, genereally there is posibility to speak with others more than in other modes through writing in the chat, amounts of kills is enormous, some moments are very cinematic. It what annoys me is not fair "crashing", heli to heli colisions or enemies respawning under you.

This really reminds me of dcs and sounds like a great idea i would love this

Bro, Never Cook Again. Let me tell you why this is a bad idea. Firstly, Low Tier Choppers have unguided rockets without CCIP, you will get rolled by AI SPAA cause Rocket don't go where your reticle is pointing, not considering the fact that SPAA see you way before you see them. Secondly, If it is hard to find the choppers, one of two things will happen either planes with completely ignore them and do dogfighting or Planes will be shot down way too much cause you dunno where the choppers are or if one is looking at you and if one chopper is looking at you, you will be dead before you spot the smoke of the missile. Thirdly, Air Sim Cap Zones, Planes get huge reward for capping zones and choppers would just stop zone capping completely and good luck finding the chopper, when it is hard to find planes in a cap zone and you have to be communicating constantly. To find if that is an enemy or a friendly. And Finally Fourthly, The Speed of the choppers cause I flew a Su-25 in a Sim battles and it was not fun when you fly for 30 minutes to get to your target, In a Straight line. Sure, You make heli pads closer to frontline but that would mean a jet can spawn camp the base and if you add AAA or SAM, well that would mean planes can't pass the frontline and now they not only have to worry about choppers that hard to find but also worry about SAMs or AAA shooting them down. So yeah, Not a good idea, you guys are welcome to speculate.