NA is starting to feel better to me

Hi there , first of all , love from rio . I'm a recovering drug addict. your video is very inspiring . Hope you are doing well , i truly do . A.a. seem like a dictatorship from what i could gather so far , i'm 38 years old . Anyway , thanks for the inspiration , and the so called " think different " that you offer through your story . Love , peace and prosperity , from rio de janeiro , brazil . Stay safe , stay well . Peace

What ever suits you pal I'm AA all the way

Great video I agree with most of your views. Sadly I'm not in the best place right now. I just can't bring myself to hear AA talk. I do SAMRT Recovery it helps, SMART will tell you if 12 steps groups can help use them. Yet AA will knock SMART. I also like step 4 and 5. But I feel step 5 should be done with a professional.. I just feel AA could help so many people if they would update the program and The Big Book and I'm not talking about adding new stories.

I've been in and out for 11 years. I needed to hear this. I agree with this.

I Tried that method doesn’t work for me. AA will not go so i stopped on my own sober for a year now. Just trying to get involved in things that occupy my mind keep me distracted. I’m gonna continue with educating my mind that seems to work..

I agree aa is brainwashed bs

I cannot tolerate AA at all. This is music to my ears. I too do the Vivitrol shot and it’s been fantastic. 20 months sober and ZERO AA.

How do you use mushrooms and weed properly?

I've been in AA a long time and did not have the experience you had.

Thank you so much for this, I just ordered the supplements you talked about, after nearly 15 years I still don't feel energy, have memory issues and have a low mood most of the time, I feel like when I am happy and friendly it's an act, not in a bad way, I'm not fake in any way but I feel like I have to force a smile during interactions, and I'm a friendly laid back guy, I'm also going thru a psych med change for depression and non-benzo meds for anxiety so I'm hoping these help repair any damage that still exists.....I drank like a fish from 21 to 39 years old with some time off here and there, got up to a 30 pack a day then switched to cheap vodka and that was the end of the road for me....anyway, I hope these supplements help!

I don't know ifnyou remember me from a previous video of yours but you are so on the money here...I know i said how long I've been sober but I had enough 24 hour coins to make an armour suit and before that I stopped drinking and drugs for 3 1/2 years and but that was all I did was stop, no other changes and eventually had an accident and got hooked on painkillers for a bit but it woke that alcohol beast...we had just moved to Florida where they sell beer in every store you walk in as opposed to Delaware where I've lived my whole life except for the 9 months in FL. one during my lunch break I went to a convenience store for something to eat and without even thinking about it I grabbed 2 24 ounce beers and drank them on the way back to work! So I was back on a 4 year journey trying to get sober and failing every time....looking back i had a fear that I couldn't cope with life without it...once I finally hit bottom I had help which I was finally ready to accept and my mind, sleep, spirituality and not so much diet at 1st changed....I'm not necessarily a religious guy either but I know someone/thing has been looking out for me all this time...I do have depression/anxiety and it hit a low about a year and a 1/2 ago and left my job to start what is becoming a pretty successful business from home and the adjustment has been huge, trying to get the sleep right and just structure thru the day since we have no set times that we work, as for purpose we decided 6 months ago to adopt our Granddaughter since my wife's daughter is a fentanyl addict and can't care for her and we didn't want her goung into the system, we should be bringing her home from CA in a couple of weeks so there is my purpose in life, I've also toyed with the idea of writing a book about my experiences and takes on how to get and stay sober with or without AA since I feel people get stuck there but whatever works right? Also thought of starting a channel which won't have a background as good as yours but I'm a bit nervous about it so it's still in the works in my mind....anyway, keep helping others, you help me remember the things I need to stay diligent about and yours is my favorite sobriety channel since you are no BS and seem like a cool laid back dude like me so I relate to you easily....Happy New Year brother!!!!

Thanks so much brother. I have been and out of AA for years. Most sobriety i have had was a year. Im a chronic relapser. i love your video about why you left AA. I realize getting thru my 4th and 5th step is huge. I realize all the things you said were true.. A lot of AA members have turned Bill and Bobs masterpiece into a CLUB! I started gaining resentments being around those particular people and the put downs as well as the guilt trips for relapsing were to much. Yep, i got triggered and drank. So, i love your channel, im building mine so if you can give me the best place to start, i would appreciate it. Thanks, Art Chicago.

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I find it highly unlikely that you had sponsored "thousands" of people in AA. Let's assume what you claim is true. You sponsored thousands of people during your time in AA and were successful in getting one person through the 12 steps. Great, I hope that person was able to stay sober after your sponsorship. So, one success and thousands of failures. I wonder, what, or who, was the common denominator in all of those failures?

sounds to me it worked to help you learn a new way of life. It may not be your permanent solution but it definitely helped you. Hope you have peace and sobriety until you die

Yes, I’m always in and out of AA because I always feel uncomfortable. Maybe because I be the only young black girl there with a bunch of old white men & women and I don’t find it motivating it actually makes me want to drink more lol Also I see how you keep apologizing in the video you don’t have to do that. What you are saying makes perfect sense.

So Wright your own big book, you poor think. The addiction never left you. And you would need to do the steps before you can help someone else.

Great video, I can relate to distancing yourself from the program. AA is certainly not a requirement for maintaining sobriety.

Alcohol is from grain that "grows in the ground" as well

You left because your disease told you to

Mushrooms? I used to pick them and use them back in the 80’s good for a while then a firm of psychosis kicked in. I’ve worked in mental health for 22 years and I’m also a recovering alcoholic. As for AA. There is always good and bad everywhere to the one united effort is to stay sober. Hope the mushrooms dont take you down the mind road they took me and others .. eventually. Take care Buddy. Mark ( UK)🙏👍

Alcoholism and Addiction are NOT THE SAME.. IF THEY WERE COCAINE AND HEROINE WOULD BE LEGAL..

I dunno buddy , i struggled in aa for 23 yrs. When i actually did the work they suggested all along i got and stayed sober. Hope ya find your peace brother

So in a nutshell you made a video about how working on yourself possibly added decades to your life to let us know you are now leaving. Why didn't you just name the video " I left AA to do my own thing, smoke pot and eat shrooms"?

I am glad you are able to stay sober and not be tied to something that was making harder at some point to stay sober. It sounds like you are practicing the principles that you learned from AA in your life which is the main goal. In my opinion just going to meetings and not putting in the work is not a long term solution for staying sober. I am sorry you had a bad experience with mean old men but I always say if you don't like the people at a meeting go to another one. Just like in life there are negative people and positive ones. It seems you were mainly interacting with negative people. I am glad you got the tools to keep you sober until you could do it on your own. I think the success rate is highly skewed as AA or other twelve step meetings are often a requirement for people who have Substance Use related crimes. The option is go to AA or go to jail. On another note you should look into the history of AA. Bill W. the person who started AA for people who are not familiar with AA, used micro dosing of mushrooms for a long time while in AA to deal with his depression. It is something that most people don't know. I wish you all the best!!!

Great video! I like the advocacy for responsible marijuana use in recovery.

Man, I’m so glad this showed up on my KZbin feed. I’ve been saying this to my wife for over a year. And she’s the one that encouraged me to take edibles and it’s changed everything. I personally feel like AA is a cult because if you don’t do one thing That they say then you’re doing it wrong and you’re gonna drink and you’re gonna die. It’s all smoke and mirrors. It doesn’t matter what you do unless you get to the point of where you or your wife or significant other says I’m done then nothing‘s going to happen. I was always told that you had to do it for yourself and not for anybody else but I always was doing it for myself and I was always relapsing. Tell my wife said she was done and I got my attention. I read/listen to a good book. How did you quit drinking without willpower I thought was Phenomenal And I see a counselor once a week and I’m sober. Thanks for the great video. Much appreciated.

really appreciate your perspective, glad youtube recommended your channel. committed to not drinking earlier this year, and started with aa but have found more growth, healing and comfort in my sobriety since stepping away from it. i’ve been seeking insight on what a path to true authenticity, self forgiveness and empowerment can look like without a 12 step program, and have found great value in your videos. thanks!

There are also forces that deceive. If it has no real meaning, be suspect.

I like the absence of malice in your evaluation. You seem to have certain strengths that most alcoholics do not usually possess. Start a meeting. They need you. AA is employed as a a punishment for problem drinkers by outside sources, rather than a source of spirituality, where it's strengths exist. Most alcoholics are indeed "Stupid mean". It's not an easy crowd to get along with, unless you're a good-looking woman. The guys flock over them like crows. And don't expect AA members to have your back. The constant churn of drifting members makes sincere friendships hard to find. Getting more deeply involved in "service work" will expose one to some of the most difficult members to deal with. I found the advent of smart phoness brought a seismic shift to the demeanor within meetings. The spiritual fundamentals of the program are sound, but are now seldom emphasized. Also,, I find that simply not talking about weed, meds and 'shrooms avoids a lot of friction. It's nobody's business.

Just want to point out that what works for some, doesnt work for others!

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No offense but in the first minute you mentioned so much stuff that wasn't AA but you attributed it to it. Then you went on to say addiction has nothing to do with genes,it absolutely does and has been proven. You're also not sober and come across full of resentment. The success rate for AA is between 50-70% for the people that do it,most dont do it so should be dismissed same with anyone court ordered not to mention the non alcoholic drug addicts that attend like yourself, they're in the wrong place to begin with. 90 meetings in 90.days isn't AA and Ive never met a single alcoholic that chooses or wants to be that way. Good luck on your journey

My experience with AA; newcomers aren't welcomed as I was in NA/CA. Traditions, especially 3, isn't honoured where i went. It was a weekly get together for the oldtimers, but a newcomer was seen as an intruder. I did NA and CA meetings, worked steps and did the suggested things and have a wonderful life worth living. The program works, if you work it. But it's a program of complete abstinence.....

Im reading the comments and I just want to say a couple things. (Why should you listen to me? You probably shouldn’t. But I feel deeply about this.) the message of AA is no longer popular in AA. I sit in AA meetings all day and idk what the fuck anyone is talking about 90 percent of the time. Thank god for my sponsor. You’re praising the 4th and 5th and 9th step. 1 gives you what you need to get through 2. 2to get through 3 (and so on). There’s a LOT of confused moderate and hard drinkers spreading a lot of their personalities and ego. Not the principles and the message. I respect that you have many more years me experience with this stuff so I am trying to be open listening to this. I’m fighting my prejudices and I can do that because hey, the lay aside prayer from Aa is a hell of a thing. One last thing, my sponsor actually is in the program primarily for weed. He tried meth and could take or leave it. I tripped on that but idk something to think about.

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Thanks for this! I feel sooo much of what you said. It’s really a relief to know people out there have had the same experience and are still sober on the other side. I’ve been toying with the idea of leaving the program from several months, going back and forth. When I step into my power I really feel like I may be better off without it.

Excellent! My feelings are the same....AA means absolute authority...

Hi , Thank You for this video . Sorry to hear You had a such experience in AA. I’m in AA for 10 years and nobody called me piece of s 1 time. My Sponsor is caring and honest. I worked with about 40 addicts last 2 years and around 15 of them went through 12 steps and helping others. I’m recommending listening to Bob D., Sandy B. , Chuck C. I had same doubts as You , but it was part of the another surrender. Sponsoring, meetings, praying and feeling like I’m about to go insane or drink. This is where I had to let go of control and give it my life again to God. I could go for mushrooms, CBT , MJ or another antidepressant , but I went deeper into this darkness looking for a closer relation with my HP and asking people who had the same experience. All good for You. Let us know how this way of life work for You in 1 year .:) Be present.

AA has a lot of cultic traditions I got so tired of people saying the same cliches over and over again When I was young and thin and attractive, the women at AA hated me and the men loved me The women thought I love myself and was stuck up The men thought I was mysterious, with a story to tell that would remain untold! Neither assumption was true I was just a boring introverted person with extremely low self-esteem There are an awful lot of very unwell people at AA.

Some people go to AA for years and don't ever work the steps They just go for the fellowship I used to judge them for that but I don't anymore because if having fellowship keeps them happy and keeps them sober then it is all good

I will be going on Christmas day, where they put on a nice lunch, only because I have no one else to spend Christmas with I plan to just ignore all of the toxic people and rise above it I will not be there because of any temptation to drink I will be there because I'm lonely, that's all

This is how EVERYONE in Spanish AA feels like. That’s why I quit and just stick to KZbin talks and reading blue book or scripture.