Great interview. Gary Mazo is a wise man.

Can’t wait for another one of these conversations!

Look at that conversation arc

So interesting to hear about your life….great to see you “live” - I miss you!💞

Perhaps we should add music making to the front end of Estuary… I have the percussion and a voice. 🙂

"Depends on your ecclesiology" made me LOL. Great conversation! Thanks for creating it.

I vote for Prairie Johnson from The OA.

Algo

What a Great conversation!

Algo

Hi, I apologize in advance for any difficulties that may arise due to cultural differences, but also due to the fact that English is not my native language, but I want to share some aspects that, at least for me, helped me a lot in times of confusion and even in situations of despair. First of all I want to say that I have been an involuntary practitioner of heart prayer. I say I was an involuntary practitioner because when I discovered the prayer (I was around 16 years old, approximately),in trying to say it as correctly as possible, I found myself in an ecstatic state, which obviously passed after a while, but after that event my mind continuously ran the prayer of the heart for about 10 years. When I say it ran without stopping, I don't mean it in a metaphorical sense, literally, when I woke up, my mind was running the prayer of the heart, when I was talking to someone else, the mind was running the prayer of the heart, when I had situations where, while sleeping, I became conscious from the fact that I was dreaming and I also was realizing that the mind was running the prayer, so as soon as the consciousness was awake, what appeared in its field was the prayer of the heart. If necessary, I could think about the practical dimensions, but the mind kept running in the background the prayer of the heart. Somewhere in 2005, under the most bizarre conditions, I sat and consciously observed that thought - prayer that was running without my will ( because I tried out of curiosity to stop that thought, several times and I didn't succeed) and from the perspective of awareness, by consciously observing that thought, I became aware that I am more than that thought, I discovered that I am also the dimension that simply notices that thought. The moment I experienced the awareness of "more" than I knew I was, the thought of prayer disappeared and in its place I realized a silence - unceasing presence. Since then I have gone through all sorts of stages, some of them not as graceful as I would have liked. Now, about the confusion part, every time it appeared, if I did nothing, it inevitably led to a state of despair, but even if it was despair, it was enough to turn my attention to that silent presence that took the place of prayer and the intensity of despair was significantly diminished. Then I noticed that if I was attentive enough, when the confusion arose, by focusing on that silent presence, clarity would appear, so the confusion would gradually disappear. In other words, in periods of confusion, but not only, it is always useful to be aware that they are observable, and prayer helps, because it shifts the focus from confusion or despair, which means that they have an impact directly proportional to the attention with which we invest them. I want to make it clear that this approach is not one of Vedic philosophy, although the similarities are obvious - Saint Maximus the Confessor and Saint Athanasius and others speak of the Trinity approach by referring to God as a mind without a body. I, myself am an Orthodox Christian. P.S. Jesus Christ himself gone through that point of despair : " Eli, Eli, lama sabahtani?", meaning that we are not alone even in the moments when it feels like there's no God. This acknowledgement helps for the moments of doubts, too, because it implies that the beneath the doubts His presence is there. God bless us!

Also, interesting discussion about the 'problem of evil.' I wince when I hear Alex O'connor saying he thinks he can envision a world or reality that would be better than our current one which 'God' has created. He's basically saying he should be God because he knows how reality should be. Great about your estuary meeting, I watch Paul's channel all the time and I'd love to start one where i am in Africa.

Much of what Jordan Hall says I don't feel clever enough to understand! That story about you and Jordan is amazing, he's a real role model of how to relate to non Christians. Thank you for sharing, it's a fascinating listen!

You're entering my algorithm on the homepage, great work as always Zac!

Jung 🤘

Cut off the payoff of Carmen San Diego. For shame. Thanks for the interview. Enjoyed it.

Parson’s morning Justin!

Zac, you actually got me to talk about my journey probably more than anyone so far. You’re great interviewer

Coffee collaboration Conversations ☕️

That acapella so smooth. Need a TLC chorus

Classic

An Elder: "you've metabolized experience into wisdom...you have a truly vocational calling to give that someone woth no esense of exchange...a gift that is overflowing" Beautiful.

So many yeses! Awesome.

22:58 spirit of geometry vs spirit of finesse (pascal). Propositions and geometry. Participatory and finesse

Rubin podcast is good stuff

Follical frenzy

Do Zac’s kids watch the projections? 😂

Game B brew

As a person playing the guitar and picking songs at church more often than not in my life. This was extremely fascinating

The 4 B’s of…

Yes!

Part two!

Great conversation

Full conversation?

26:48 " And I couldnt take it off !" Wow,.... I understand that one. Glad for where your at now !!!

“Are we starting?” Ha!

That's true. He is. 27:55

My new favorite podcast episode ever.

The Creative Act: A Way of Being! Love it. The gray linen cover with black silkscreen is simply stunning and the contents are gold.

Adding all the context with the clips was really fun : )

❤

You might find it interesting that, due to a glitch in KZbin, the time stamp for the section where you describe your experience of the Liturgy was titled “the last true rebellion”.

Best show notes evah

Now that I've finished, this is a very exciting and heart-full conversation about some directions that might be calling as part of a "new reformation."

I was imagining a sudden placement of yalls heads on the rockers 😂

🔥🙏

Zizek??? You've got to see PVK's assessment of Zizek's encounter with Peterson.

Your opening reminded me of the world class King of the Hill episode, "Reborn to be Wild."

Amazing editing man you’re spot on with all the clips👏 I imagine it takes a while to find and cut them all up. Another stellar conversation! I’ll def be following you on your journey

Wow man that blew my mind. You told me what my name means!🤯 we even spell it the same haha, lots of weird synchronicities here since your appearance on PVK, combinatorial explosions happening everywhere… my life is crazy rn since I recently started teaching in high school, but this summer I’m determined to get a little KZbin channel going so I can talk to like-minded folks about this crazy spiritual God bomb that’s been blowing up my whole life. I hope we can have a conversation brother. Until then, thank you and God bless🙏