Its winter where i am and so i am working on making the shad pannier set symmetrical as i didn't like the looks of them being different on each side due to the exhaust. An aftermarket leovince exhaust gave me enough room to pull the exhaust side in 2in and all looks factory with symmetrical beauty now. The exhaust is still nice and quiet too.
@v7956195 күн бұрын
Hey Ben, I've been looking at this and the Vogue DS900X. Thanks for all the info and especially interesting that you rate it's build quality better than Triumphs 😮 Really enjoyed, thanks
@benplaysbass24915 күн бұрын
The Voge DS900X looks amazing - given they are derived for the new BMW's, I can only imagine they'll be exceptional. As a Triumph fan boy, it really is painful to admit that this Chinese made bike has taken it to them in terms of price and build quality, with the caveat that this bike is nine years younger than my most recent Triumph. That said, I believe the whole market has failed to represent value for money in recent years, and I think that these well priced/well made bikes from the likes of China and India are going to force the Japanese and European brands to reconsider over charging and under delivering, and force some downward pressure on the market.
@rockamalaya26 күн бұрын
are you regret bought cfmoto 800mt?
@benplaysbass249122 күн бұрын
No. To date, it is the best bike I have owned. Beats my previous Triumph’s (as much as I loved them) hands down.
@rockamalaya26 күн бұрын
what is the top speed that you can reach with a pillion?
@benplaysbass249122 күн бұрын
The highest legal speed you can do in Victoria is 110kms/h and it did that easy @ about 4700rpm
@IndianMickАй бұрын
It must’ve taken quite a bit of editing to turn footage from my bike into something useable and fit for public consumption!
@benplaysbass2491Ай бұрын
We’ll have to team up for some more videos 😉
@IndianMickАй бұрын
@ you should do a review of the ftr
@benplaysbass2491Ай бұрын
@@IndianMick deal
@Archiballd123Ай бұрын
cf moto , kove and voge and qj are best motocycles from china I have Kove 510x and i so happy..(Kove800x is better and my go to but lack of $$)
@800Adventures2 ай бұрын
I just got myself an Insta360 Ace Pro and a DJI Action 5 Pro. Can't wait to never use my gopro again!! These are also the tyres I am about to put on as well 👌🏻
@benplaysbass24912 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I enjoy your videos.
@MARCMACABODBOD2 ай бұрын
the scenery of these places you're riding is beautiful, if you don't mind, what country is this sir?
@benplaysbass24912 ай бұрын
I'm in the southern part of Australia
@Clonyxl83 ай бұрын
Negative guy !!!
@benplaysbass24912 ай бұрын
LOL - It's all about the click bait. I love this thing ;)
@ramlanjaafar3 ай бұрын
Here in Malaysia we get 3 boxes totally free with the bike, or maybe they included them in the price... The boxes use the same key to open, close or disengage them from the brackets.
@benplaysbass24913 ай бұрын
Nice!
@TheDualCruiser3 ай бұрын
What was your highway speeds. Is it easy to cruise at 80mph/130kmh with a pillion/passanger?
@benplaysbass24913 ай бұрын
The highest the speed limit got up in the hills where we were riding was 100kmh and it did it easily.
@Dutch800s3 ай бұрын
that color is the best i've seen.. haven't even seen one like this!
@benplaysbass24913 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's the "Limited Edition" version - I agree - this my favourite colour too :)
@rorge0073 ай бұрын
I have a 800mt explore, 10000km. You need to growup, if you like the bike, enjoy it. Other peoples opinions don't matter. The camshaf tissue does concern me a little. But i understand cfmoto modified the head, oil pump and crankshaft. So hopefully its fixed. I love the wifi sotfware updates. The slow speed engine management issue is fixed as of a few days ago. It goes reallly well, eats gravel roads. Iwas going to have a 890 ktm, this was 30% cheaper. It is awesome
@benplaysbass24913 ай бұрын
I don't think I need to grow up. My point was that perhaps people should not be dicks. Doesn't seem like too much to ask. I do enjoy the bike, as I attest to in all of my videos - very much so. And I'm not at all concerned about the camshaft issue either. It impacts KTM 790 engines prior to 2020.
@JasonRidesmoto3 ай бұрын
Nice review! I'm about to hit 5000 miles on mine and it really is a great bike overall if you have the right expectations for it.
@christopherclegg56823 ай бұрын
Love my CFMoto 800 MT. I have had 3 BMW R1200GS and I can honestly say that this bike ticks all the boxes, and more, compared to the GS. The only small issue I had was the mirrors self adjusting at speed. I am waiting for replacements under warranty but have fitted Double Take mirrors for now. I feel what you are saying about people bad mouthing the product just because its Chinese and endorsed by KTM.
@roadstrom4 ай бұрын
Hi i came dangerously close to pulling the trigger on one. I just had concerns about about the cam issues with the 790/890 engines.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
It was definitely something that concerned me, however I was satisfied with reports from MCN and the like that CFMOTO addressed this issue when they took over production of this engine and (touch wood) there haven’t been any issues from 2020 onwards.
@cruze864 ай бұрын
This colour was discontinued in 2023 , how did you get one? 😮
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
We managed to snap one up before then thank goodness 😉. Have you seen the new colours they’ve just released? They look fantastic!
@grahamemoerkerk26984 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reviews Ben. Your reviews are great and will help me move from my ST1100 armchair to a bike that will take me of the beaten track in my retirement. I have been interested in this bike for some time. One question, what is it like to move about when loaded pushing it around. Thanks Moe plays rhythm .
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Hey Moe, thanks for watching the videos and taking the time to leave a comment. I chased an ST1100 through South Gippsland a few months ago. I was so surprised with its capability. I find the 800MT really manageable to move around. The big pillion grab handles come in exceptionally handy. The fact that it’s quite tall means that I don’t have to stoop to move it around, so it’s pretty easy on the old back 😉.
@grahamemoerkerk26983 ай бұрын
@@benplaysbass2491 Thanks for reply Ben. Yep the ST goes really well and is great for big kilometres loaded up. My dickey knee means i am not confident moving it about. The CF is looking very much at the front of the picks for me. Love all the Bass gats in the video. Moe plays rhythm
@calanmacleod39484 ай бұрын
Do you remind them its the same factory that makes KTM,s Harley gets parts made in China. Honda, suzuki, many others do to.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
I shouldn’t let it get to me - most rational people know that large portions of what we buy are made up of components from China. That’s just the nature of the global market. Thanks for leaving a comment and checking out the video 😊
@luciogabisanjr64434 ай бұрын
Hi new subscriber here from philippines..
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thanks for subscribing! I’ve just ordered some new tyres so stay tuned for some new content.
@mattwalsh31934 ай бұрын
Dear Ben, thanks for your observations. I'm sad that that other people's words can annoy/upset/irritate you greatly. I'm always puzzled why a comment from someone not known to us, with unknown experiences and qualification and motives, can impact us so such. If by some miracle, feedback was created by a sheep dog carefully typing, then we would ignore those comments without thought. Isnt that the same for someone who we have no ide of???? That you took about 8 mins to express your irritation shows me the sad sorry impact of social media on our thoughts. The driving light mounts seems abit weak, although their demise was due to an impact and they didn't rattle off or fail of their own accord. The snatchy throttle is known and stock tyres, well buy the bike with desired tires to suit you riding. the stock treads were never going to work well off road. I look forward to seen the 4350MT on the gravel roads etc. For $10k its a very affordably bike. I haven't seen the 800 in Melbourne yet but think it would be a great option to the other sized bikes, especially if cheaper and slightly lighter. Thanks for making the video and best for continued happy riding. Regards Matt
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thanks Matt, you’re right - it gets to me far more than it should and there are much more important things in the world to be concerned with. But the 8 minutes it took me to spit it out is probably more of an indication of how inarticulate I am to be truthful 😂. In the grand scheme of things I don’t lose much sleep over this. I do genuinely wish that everyone would become a little bit more kind and compassionate towards each other - that’s certainly how I’m raising my sons. Many thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and a meaningful/positive one at that 😊
@MEGLADAD4 ай бұрын
If you're gunna repaint those crash bars do it in the 2 part Raptor coating..The stuff is tough as nails and hard to scratch..I've used it on a lot of parts on my 4wd and recommend it to just about everyone I come across for a good scratch resistant coating.. Keep up the good work on these vids👌 KZbin has become my friend while I'm nursing an injury for a couple of months until I can ride again.. Frustrating as hell watching and not doing but it bridges the gap a little 👍
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and great advice re the Raptor coating! I hope you heal up soon and get back on two wheels. It’s a privilege to be a (minor) part of your recovery 😉
@MEGLADAD4 ай бұрын
All good.. Thanks mate 👍
@jc6702074 ай бұрын
A lovely video. Thanks for sharing. You are absolutely right, there are huge benefits from riding motorbikes. Keep the content coming. ps. I will share this with family and friends.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thanks! Your comment means a lot. I’ve got some videos lined up - I hope they’re to your taste 😊
@jc6702074 ай бұрын
Get yourself Bluetooth intercom. It makes for an enhanced pillion experience. Money well spent.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Great suggestion! We actually had the Sena built-in intercoms and enjoyed a good chat throughout the ride. They’re a complete game changer!
@robkeogh45934 ай бұрын
Hey mate. You'll need to lock the top box on with the key. We are both from the Traralgon area and i lost mine on a rough dirt road up from home here in Tyers. Lucky to get it back, a bloke found it and luckily my insurance papers were in the box so he had my address. Last thing i do everytime now is ensure the panniers and topbox are securely locked on. I reckon we got the best looking version too by the way
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Great advice! I’ll double check - thanks Rob!
@index67384 ай бұрын
Guys….fuel map updates, or bike fresh from factory, or changed air or exhaust and suffer from jerky, snatchy Throttle to perform throttle relearn procedure. Mine had 2 fuel map updates minimised but never resolved snatchy and jerky throttle, hunting engine RPM was solved by simply remapping electronic throttle. Throttle inputs are linear and engine RPM stable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sISmpWyOrcSUe8ksi=5IhuQh4BTn_Kz-Jp
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@index6738 thanks mate, I have tried this procedure and I didn’t notice a significant difference, but I quite like how it is as it stands 😉
@index67384 ай бұрын
@@benplaysbass2491 sweet. Callibration also reads 2 throttle bodies positions and air intake. Cold engine for this procedure works best.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@index6738 I’m going to give it another go tomorrow. Thanks heaps 😀
@mavrick50064 ай бұрын
Gota have haters or Ur not doing it right haha I've got a ktm 2024 500 and 2022 890. Now have an mt450 and love it. more than the others. maybe the best bike I've had .. I love the haters haha.. good reveiw mate smooth ride 👌 I think I'm I love 😂
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@mavrick5006 man, I’ve got to get my hands on the 450MT - haven’t heard anything but good things. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a message 😉
@robkeogh45934 ай бұрын
Hey Mate. You went passed my joint early on in the vid, ive got the same bike in the shed and ride that road often. I got a set of shinko knobbies fitted on mine from new before i picked it up. Made a huge difference. Good point about the size thing and Chinese manufacturing as well.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@robkeogh4593 hopefully I’ll see you out and about! I’m looking at new tyres as we speak! Thanks for leaving a comment ;)
@andrewdyson42554 ай бұрын
I’ve just been watching a few of your videos which I came across by accident. Firstly I’d like to say thank you for posting as I enjoyed hearing your storey. Whilst I live in the U.K. I have a son and his family over there in Victoria. I’d love to get out there to live but I’ve looked into it and it’s a very difficult process at my age 64 but hopefully I’ll get out on a 5 year visa in the not too distant future. I must say you are spot on with your life observations, motorcycles are a great escape from day to day life and have kept me sane for a long time now(47 years). I’ve got a BMW 1250 rt and a Moto Guzzi V7 850 but I will give them both up to live over there and have something like your CF moto. Good luck to you, keep enjoying your riding. Whilst your riding there’s no stress of life to worry about so ride as much as possible.take care over there
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I hope you can make it over here. My wife and in-laws are from the UK so we’re actually planning on visiting your neck of the woods early next year! Thanks so much for watching and enjoy the Guzzi and the BMW!
@bennettsjb4 ай бұрын
Just subscribed! Loved this! And the editing was excellent! Thank you from New Jersey, USA!
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Oh man, thanks heaps! Means a lot. It’s so great to hear from you.
@robertcarpenter30204 ай бұрын
I think if you enjoy your cf moto that’s all that matters. It seems like a great product as well does the 450 at a great price, in fact I’ve been strongly looking at the 450 for my next bike. I currently have a KLR and see people online bagging on them all time but I don’t mind it’s good enough for my skill level right now.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
KLR’s look they could survive a nuclear holocaust- such a great bike! The 450MT is an interesting proposition though. An 800 and 450 wouldn’t be too much to ask, surely!?
@2631Fred4 ай бұрын
Mate, I do not own any KTM/CF MOTO, but I have recently watched and seen the problems with the cam shafts. That apparently is being going on for years. Problem not solved yet. Apparently, Aprilia 660 has problems with the cams as well. Same with most of the KTM 790/890 motors. I saw the pics of the new KAWI KLR 700 for 2025.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@2631Fred I haven't seen a single issue with the cams on the CFMOTO version of this particular motor - that's not to say they're not out there. MCN did report that the cam issue was resolved in 2020 with KTM which was when the 800MT hit the market. Cross your fingers for me that this remains the case. All this said, I can't remember owning a car or motorbike in my 42 years of existence that didn't have known issues... I'm about to have another fight on my hands getting Nissan to actually follow through on their warranty and I once had a Mitsubishi off the road for almost six months waiting for repairs!
@2631Fred4 ай бұрын
@@benplaysbass2491 I saw a guy in the USA with BMW sport bike issues. Took him 10 months to get BMW to replace the engine. MADNESS!! I grew up when we still had guarantees. a Different story altogether. Good old days.
@bennysxilegs4 ай бұрын
Great video mate. Enjoyed the honest look on life. Love it.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. Made my day 😉
@TwistofWrist4 ай бұрын
I almost bought this bike last week but the dealer didn't give me a good price on my current ride so I couldn't do a trade in. I think I'll wait a bit more for the Kove 800X. These Chinese bikes are getting better. Yes, work environment is very important. I'm willing to travel a bit further daily to work with a good team.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thanks Charlie - the Kove's look amazing. I would love to hear your thoughts if you get one ;)
@TwistofWrist4 ай бұрын
Yes, there is no dealer yet in Australia so we'll have to play by ears. Hopefully I can get one before WW3 started. Lol
@diff220004 ай бұрын
A very deep, thoughtful and honest video. That must have taken great strength and courage to do. I currently ride a Triumph Rocket Classic. I started riding when I was 12yrs old and started on road riding at the age of 16yrs old. I am now 61 and still enjoy riding as much now as I did when I first started. I am a disabled rider and the freedom the bike gives me is amazing. When I put on that helmet to the rest of the world I am not disabled, I am 'normal'. For want of a better word. When I ride I am free if my constraints, my worries, my issues. I have no plans if giving up and look forward to many more adventures. I wish you well on your ride to recovery.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your response. It gave me goosebumps. They really are freedom machines aren't they?
@sinistersilverado9654 ай бұрын
kilometers, that's what countries that haven't landed men on the moon use
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Apparently as of 2018, 17 countries in the world use mph whereas the remaining 196 countries use kmh. I just can't believe that there are 16 countries out there with the audacity to use mph when they haven't even landed so much as a dog on the moon.
@TheGuiseppe904 ай бұрын
Have you riden the 650mt? Would that be suitable for pillion?
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
No, I would love to though.
@tamayaytam4 ай бұрын
Any vibration problem for pillion ?
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Hey, none whatsoever.
@shortattentionspangarage13124 ай бұрын
Maybe it's the American in me, but if some jackass came up to me and immediately said my bike was "crap", I would unleash a verbal wrath of insults back at them. Chances are, this being America and whatnot, whoever insults me will be a fat Harley fanboi, which gives me a lot to work with when it comes to verbal insults.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@jamiehalifax49544 ай бұрын
Ask the harley owner what's the difference between a harley and a hoover vacuum. When he asks what, tell him the position of the dirt bag. 🤣🤣
@otomorim4 ай бұрын
You need a radiator guard too! And i'm so confused, normally, the top box and the panniers comes in as factory install on the 800mt model. Not sure why you didn't get them.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
You’re right - I should get a radiator guard. I think I might pull the trigger… the boxes didn’t come with my bike as it was imported to be used at the Australian MotoGP. I was able to pick it up very cheaply as a result, but it was unfortunate not to come with at least the top box.
@je76474 ай бұрын
They used to have this mentality about Japanese stuff hence the term "jap cr*p"
@a.lujkovskiy4 ай бұрын
And it's always funny to me to hear these stories about "human rights violations", "democracy" and other horror stories of Western propaganda) Friends, this is already such an outdated "Fairy Tale" of Western politicians that it makes no sense to talk about it. People live in China, not a bit worse than in Europe, the United States and other "democratic" countries. No one shoots them or oppresses them. People also live, work, and create families. Thanks a lot for the video. I've been looking at this motorcycle for a long time.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
The Australian Government likes to lock up refugees and whistleblowers, so we certainly shouldn’t be criticising - thanks for the comment!
@lloydj34934 ай бұрын
I have had one for 40k and the throttle still bugs me, A DNA air filter plus a Smart Moto shunt to bypass the oxy sensors helped but putting a 42t rear sprocket has given the best improvement. It allows the motor to work in it's sweet spot longer in a higher gear . ( they need to have the throttle open to fuel properly ) ....
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Wow - 40k! That’s good to hear. Still running ok, other than the annoying fueling?
@index67384 ай бұрын
Throttle relearn procedure sort out snatchy, jerky throttle. Most people think it’s fuel map issue.
@chops63024 ай бұрын
I’ve done almost 20,000 kms on mine so far and can’t fault it. It’s essentially my daily ride unless it’s raining when I leave for work.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
I’m seeing more and more examples of this. Could it be that we are finally seeing something in the motorcycling world that represents value for money???
@paulmcgreal87504 ай бұрын
i have the exact same bike and love it. i agree with the china " size " issue you brought up and it is very true about how some people have no issue buying something like a washing machine from china but not a motorbike....strange phenomenon
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@paulmcgreal8750 I know right!? The irony is that a lot of online hate towards this bike/brand are typed on Chinese made devices 🤦🏻
@nobbynesbit79644 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts Ben. I’m over in the UK and have had my MT800 Explore for two months now. In that time I have lost count of the number of people that have commented about it being a Chinese bike! However, I have been riding for over 40 years and the MT800 Explore is one of the better bikes I have owned. People forget they said the same things about the Japanese bikes when they started coming into the UK back in the day. Look where they are now 😉. CFMOTO seems to have got off to a good start so far 👍🏻
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@nobbynesbit7964 hello, and thanks for the comment. I’m so glad you’re enjoying your CFMOTO. I still can’t fault mine - not for lack of trying! It just keeps making me smile!!!
@chops63024 ай бұрын
A great vid mate, by all means, make some more if you can, I’ll certainly watch. I have the earlier model 800, and just love it to bits, an awesome bit of kit. I’ve got nearly all the gear I need to do do some over-nighters and very much looking forward to that. I hope your ailments are under control, keep the spirits up with some good rides. Cheers 🍻
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment. It means a lot. I’m actually finding the videos therapeutic so there will be more to come.
@ianhalliwell86044 ай бұрын
The KTM engine with all its cam shaft problems really puts me off this bike. I know it's got a 4 year warranty but that doesn't ease my misgivings on this engine.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
CFMOTO corrected the camshaft issue and there haven’t been any issues with them since they began using them in this platform as far as I know. There are some really good technical drawings getting around showing the differences in the cylinder head in the CFMOTO and current KTM’s and the ones experiencing the camshaft failure. I also read that only .2% of the 790 engines have been impacted by this issue - don’t quote me on that though. It could be KTM spin.
@shortattentionspangarage13124 ай бұрын
@@benplaysbass2491 Hey, any chance you could put up a link to those technical drawings you speak of? I've been exhausting myself on Google trying to find them and got no luck.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@shortattentionspangarage1312 hmmm, me also. If I find them I’ll link them here. If I found them once I can find them again.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
@@shortattentionspangarage1312 meanwhile, here’s a link to an MCN article stating that the issue was resolved in 2020/21 prior to the release of the 800MT: www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2024/july/ktm-camshaft-defects/
@Sargnort4 ай бұрын
Someone from the UK looked into the stats of the camshaft failures and found it was like .2 percent of the KTM 790 . One 5th of a percent.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Sometimes facts are less engaging/entertaining than a less than accurate narrative... Thanks for the comment - appreciate the insight
@VulcanAussie4 ай бұрын
@Ben Plays Bass, just wondering if you would consider an electric powered bikes for ADV riding, as opposed to petrol fuelled bikes? Me, i’m a fan of petrol bikes.
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
Great question and a contentious issue! We own a Tesla and as long as your expectations are inline with what its capabilities are, you can’t fault it. Electric bikes have years of development to go, so I think we’ll have to manage our expectations of the ones that we’re seeing currently. They’ll get there eventually! I’d love to try one though. But you’re right, there is absolutely nothing like an internal combustion engine! Keep an eye out for Savic Motorcycles from Australia. They’re doing some incredible innovation with electric bikes 😉
@auf_kollisionskurs38284 ай бұрын
4.5k rpm at 105 kmh bruh that isn't great
@benplaysbass24914 ай бұрын
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. If this was a car, sure, but this is an 800cc parallel twin motorcycle engine. 4.5k rpm is a sweet spot for this bike and its power and fuel economy have both been great. 😊