I tried my hand at forth at college back in the 80s. Could never get my head around reverse polish notation 100%. Putting the operator before the values to be calculated just felt wrong and unintuitive. I'm sure there must have been a reason to do it that way (less memory maybe?) but I really couldn't get on with it. I never used or even clapped eyes on an Ace, I used forth on a homemade z80 based computer one of the tutors had built himself.
@protox07Күн бұрын
I like your videos
@MichiMilchmelker6 күн бұрын
Defender of the crown looks amazing when i would see that on release day of the cdtv then i would buy one. As i remember the cdtv was not cheap and the games were not that cheap either. At that time nobody own a cd Burner so "copy games" was not that easy as floppy discs. So for me "as teenager' when the cdtv came out, it was a nogo for me. I just got my parents to buy an amiga500, computers were not that mainstream like today. Most adults think of them as expensive toys becouse they see no real useage. Nothing they could also do with a pen and paper... But for me it was so great times with the c64 and then amiga500 ... it was like a jump like from 560gt to 4080gtx all this digital sample sounds and the high Resolution with so many colors. Man such upgrade we will never have again and at its time this was hightech. Miss commodore so much
@thehistoryofchingfordwater893317 күн бұрын
At and t dsp. Capable of 10 tracks pcm 44.1 plus stereo recording. THE AMIGA IS COMING.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR24 күн бұрын
XILINX is now AMD Devices.
@omarguerrero641729 күн бұрын
This thing flop because they market it terrible and wasn't sure what to release
@josephfrye7342Ай бұрын
The amiga cd32 failed also
@g4z-kb7ctАй бұрын
Provide the source documents and source code for that thing and I'll create one with modern parts and put it out there as open-source. I find it extremely difficult to believe that the parts are not available now. More likely this is exactly the same as a lot of other retro projects where the person gets bored and falls off the side of the planet never to be seen again lol! Or assuming the guy is hoarding everything like usual send one to me and I'll reverse-engineer it and add it to all the other hoarded projects i've reversed and open-sourced. Then you can make as many as you want for ~5 bucks each. But this thing is really not required. EPROMs are not rare or difficult to find. Even if that type is (which it isn't) just make a small board that will adapt any other type. I've produced and released as open-source several adapter boards to use as non-standard mask ROMs using a common EPROM and even used a common and cheap TSOP48 flash ROM on some of them. This is primarily for my area of expertise (arcade games) but they will work with any chip that requires the same type of ROM. As far as just replacing ROMs none of that is difficult or expensive. That thing you have is nice but it's way overkill for a kickstart ROM that might need to be updated once every 5 years assuming KS development continues. In reality even KS3.1 is good enough for most people and as far as games go nothing requires anything higher.
@fradd182Ай бұрын
I knew they had to work out some solution for an old HDD click sound.
@MrLukealbaneseАй бұрын
Nice one Wrangler 😊. Perhaps try the BlueSCSI version 2 as a comparison?
@wrangleramiga896Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@GadgetUK164Ай бұрын
Brilliant video again =D
@wrangleramiga896Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@xantam23Ай бұрын
Can you tell the difference between a ZULU SCSI and a Blue SCSI?
@wrangleramiga896Ай бұрын
I don't know much about the BlueSCSI and I don't have one so I can't answer I'm afraid.
@amandaure9909Ай бұрын
For some reason there was a demo on the tape which came with the Ace and did autoplay, but I never found out how it did it. However, there was a system variable which could be used for an address to redirect the output, so maybe it wrote to that when it was loaded and redirected when it started to output "OK".
@wrangleramiga896Ай бұрын
Thanks - I was unaware of that. Sadly, I don't have any original tapes with my Ace
@amandaure9909Ай бұрын
@@wrangleramiga896 no worries. I've often wondered how it worked. It's also odd that no other software I've come across does that.
@ProsonicАй бұрын
i love mine, rare machine now days, drives need a recap to keep running strong
@DAVIDGREGORYKERRАй бұрын
Is there a way that you could get AES256 running on your AMIGA AA3000+ as that is required for encryption/decryption of the Broadband stream
@DAVIDGREGORYKERRАй бұрын
Have you thought about getting an ASUSTEC EN9500GT?
@fradd1822 ай бұрын
if i understand it correctly, the DSP can only do 4 basic FP operations, very fast. No transcendental functions, no Fourier transforms, nothing that could be specifically related to signal processing. So why its called "DSP", why not just light-weight FPU or something?
@wrangleramiga8962 ай бұрын
You'll have to address that to AT&T!
@GadgetUK1642 ай бұрын
Excellent! A very useful video for anyone wanting to get to grips with development for the DSP!
@wrangleramiga8962 ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@cp2562 ай бұрын
It's pretty impressive, shame it wasn't mainstreamed into the Amiga!
@wrangleramiga8962 ай бұрын
Yes, definitely. The A4000 was so cut down from the ambitions for the successor to the A3000 it makes you want to cry!
@cv643d2 ай бұрын
Can you port Quake 3 to it?
@GadgetUK1642 ай бұрын
Or just a modded version of the original Quake - I wonder what the benefit might be? I wonder how the DSP compares to the FPU in an 040 / 060? In that scenario, it might be slower than the FPU!
@cv643d2 ай бұрын
Yes that would be interesting (or Doom)
@wrangleramiga8962 ай бұрын
Could I port Quake 3/original Quake/Doom - yes. Am I going to - no! My aim here was to encourage others to program for this chip!
@amigaouk2 ай бұрын
my brother had cd32 and cdtv me and my brother still say cdtv build better than cd32
@maciejlegowicz58342 ай бұрын
if Commodore only add MIDI to early models - 1000, 500 and 2000 as standard, it would probably stay a bit longer. Btw. I had this machine, but some sales clever cnt sold it to my parents where in the same store they had 1200 for about the same price ...
@gaeljehnno2 ай бұрын
No temp problem with it ? I have the tf1260 and in the a1200 case without a fan it's pretty warm inside (i have the indivision too).
@maniatore20062 ай бұрын
Thank you for that Video, that Devices are so expensive today days.
@cherrygate2 ай бұрын
We had a few developer versions of this. The later ones had kickstart 2 which never had an official public release. The project manager was Gail Wellington and the CDTV was referred to as the Commodore "Baby"
@jimbotron702 ай бұрын
Instead of selling the CD player as peripheral for the Amiga they opted for a big expensive standalone box... How brilliant.
@Nebulous62 ай бұрын
This bomb of a machine soaked up so much money and time that it delayed the launch of the Amiga 1200 (and may have even deprived us of a 16-bit audio chipset for the AGA machines). Between that and wasting time and money on the Amiga 600, C= really added delays onto delays for getting a follow-up chipset to ECS out stores (already long overdue). Ironically, you could attach a NEC external CD-ROM drive to an Amiga 500 or 2000 back when the CDTV was about to be launched making the CDTV pointless (except to check the "Set top box" item on the ol' computer manufacturer bucket list).
@TheGraemiАй бұрын
Nope, it was mostly the A600. The CDTV was developed by a rather small team.
@xKynOx2 ай бұрын
I'm annoyed that these came out when i was older i totally missed the Amiga/ST gen i was to busy being a adult to play games i had rent to pay.
@weepingscorpion87392 ай бұрын
Yes, it may have failed but man... I really want one. But they have skyrocketed in price, especially if you want the floppy drive, mouse, and keyboard with it. But yeah, still want one. :)
@lurkerrekrul2 ай бұрын
When the CDTV came out, it joined the likes of the CD-i in confusing the public. Nobody knew what the hell a "multimedia" machine was, or what you'd use it for. Hyping up digital encyclopedias and interactive maps didn't help. Everyone was afraid to call them game consoles, and the general public just scratched their head wondering why they'd want one. As for Defender of the Crown, I loved the graphics, but I sucked at the strategy part. I'm not sure what I was doing wrong, but every time I tried to move into another territory, I'd get slaughtered. I could never win the jousting, and I sucked at attacking castles, but I seem to recall winning the swordfights. Small tip: You're supposed to be moving forward, not retreating. ;)
@danyoutube74912 ай бұрын
I have to say that Defender of the Crown looked like it got a decent upgrade for CDTV, very nice animations for the sword fighting, and nice voice work. Obviously the downside is that the game is still just a collection of nicely presented mini-games, but it's nevertheless a good example of the sort of advantages CD-ROM could give to games at the time.
@Casp3r.aka.Droid.2 ай бұрын
Is the Amiga only a British thing because I only hear British people ever talked about it and when anyone else talks about it they always mention something about Britain. Plus I've never known anyone to ever own any type of Amiga anything. And the games I see online look horrible.
@maxxdahl60622 ай бұрын
It was a US thing too, but the US branch was so incompetent at marketing.
@br98092 ай бұрын
It was more aimed at digital artists and other professionals in the US. Here in Europe it became more of a home computer, and therefore a game machine.
@maxxdahl60622 ай бұрын
@@br9809 US branch should have marketed it towards doing everything not just business/professional like they did. Amiga would have taken off easier here in the US had they been like "This can be a professional machine OR a really good gaming machine!" Hell gaming is what got the c64 to sell so well here.
@maxxdahl60622 ай бұрын
Also in 1985 the amiga's graphics/games looked amazing, it was doing sega genesis/megadrive quality graphics years before that even came out. And got better as models got better.
@valley_robot2 ай бұрын
I loved mine, I did only pay 30 quid for it though
@BronsonTheCat2 ай бұрын
The best thing on CDTV is Xenon II. The soundtrack with Bomb The Bass and also the fact that Colin can talk in English.
@RamonSmits2 ай бұрын
I had one, but it was a let down. To use it as an Amiga I had to disable the CDTV rom to have enough RAM. It did look extremely cool with the black keyboard and floppy drive and it was great it had MIDI. It should have had AGA an 020 and 2MB. Basically the CD32... The low spec is what sunk the sales and it's underpowered specs for its release date in the Netherlands made me sell it pretty fast for a PC.. ow.. and the missing joy ports.... OMG what a stupid decision. The remote just sucked extremely for gaming.
@legpeguk2 ай бұрын
I had one too and remember the same problem. Lots of A500 software wouldn't work unless the machine had the CDTV kickstart function turned off, due to lack of memory. This meant moving a pin switch inside the machine. Since there was very little CDTV discs available, I went this way and ended up with an A500 in a fancy box also.
@summerlaverdure2 ай бұрын
this is a great video, loved seeing inside of the CDTV, subbed!
@The_Last_Ninja2 ай бұрын
I own a Commodore branded TV, but unfortunately I don’t own the CDTV. I guess I’ve got the next best thing….don’t I???
@Nookdashiddole2 ай бұрын
Junko
@jussimatikainen46812 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. Great video :)
@NorthWay_no2 ай бұрын
The keyboard connector is (AFAIK) the same formfactor as the 4000 uses, but the pinout is different. Because why not.
@NorthWay_no2 ай бұрын
Nice, but I really wish someone would put up a KickSmash32 for sale...
@VRStoned19782 ай бұрын
the expansion port was for joystick ports also.. it was worth nothing without the joystick ports and a bit of mem expansion
@edwardclark5272 ай бұрын
Are those keyboard/mouse connecters possibly PS2?
@firstsurname98932 ай бұрын
Nope, they're both proprietary. They're not even the same as the mini-DIN keyboard connectors on the CD32 and Amiga 4000. The keyboard connector is similar but has only 5 pins and uses a different protocol. The remote socket can support a PS/2 mouse and standard DE9 joystick using an Arduino-based adapter.
@johneygd2 ай бұрын
It was clear that the CDTV simply couldn’t compeat with the likes of the sega genesis and snes. It was simply too bulky and expensive with a modest amount of games for it😟
@Nookdashiddole2 ай бұрын
Simply
@danyoutube74912 ай бұрын
It wasn't meant to be a console, though it probably would have been better designed as one. It was too expensive, aiming to capture a chunk of a market that never actually existed - the widely predicted 'interactive home entertainment' market.
@StefansAmigaWelt2 ай бұрын
Funny fact ....that is not an Amiga 😂.......as it can be seen at the front !
@g4z-kb7ct2 ай бұрын
29:17 Not clear how to win swordfighting? Eh? You walk forward while pushing the guy up the staircase and you eventually wipe him out... really just push right and press button 1 quickly ;-)
@naviamiga2 ай бұрын
Was the sort of thing I only ever saw in Comet. Fun to play with but no-one seemed to own one.
@oodatoodat12 ай бұрын
Nevertheless.
@davidlloyd15262 ай бұрын
Commodore should have put a CDRom into the Amiga by default... but they never did....
@wrangleramiga8962 ай бұрын
I'm not sure the World was ready for built in CDROMs then - my first PC didn't have one. Really this was an example of Commodore, and other manufacturers, testing out the demand for new technology.
@Nookdashiddole2 ай бұрын
Cd was expensive back then. Go back to trumps school of economics
@boydpukalo89802 ай бұрын
Several thousand for an A500 with CD Drive = typical Commodore failure. I love that black floppy drive and keyboard and would love them for my ReAmigas in black cases. If I ever find a NOS CDTV I will probably pick one up. It was ahead of its time. Cool video. Maybe a future video on expansions for the CDTV?