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@valentinzwick5408 11 күн бұрын
It´s actually the round robins that are changing every time you run the midi, whilst the velocity itself should stay the same (hence this is the only parameter besides the placement of a hit that you can actually change during the drum programming) but I think the purpose of those had been mentioned and understood in the comments before. So yes, before the final mixdown print the drums in place. However, I don´t feel it´s a big "issue" even when you´re still tweaking the drums and therefore play the midi - the different round robins being triggered every time you start the midi all live in the same velocity range so what changes is much rather the flavour of the hit but its power is determined by the velocity and that should remain the same. It could of course be that different Drum VSTs haven´t been as meticulous with putting the right round robin hits into the correct velocity range, so i.e. even if it should just be a hat with a different tonal character, it is actually also louder and should instead have been in the next velocity range. With the Drum Software I use, this never had been an issue. I am using GGD, SD3 and my new fafourite Ultimate Heavy Drums from MDLTone and with all of them the different round robin samples never spike out as much so they would drastically change how i.e. the compressor or else reacts. Maybe the two examples you mentioned aren´t as consistent when it comes to round robins. Thanks for the video and the time you put into this analysis - I seem to have picked the right drum VSTs 🤣
@zacharydwight7380 21 күн бұрын
Hey, I did everything the way you did it but I still can’t get it to play back with sound using ssd, even with a kit selected. Any thoughts ?
@akosfarkas1159 19 күн бұрын
Hi there. Sorry but I don't no what went wrong. If you followed every steps, it should work. Try to put the drum plugin on the midi track, without separating the tracks an see if you have audio. If not, I guess you have to see if the monitoring output is correct. Also if you have other drum plugins, try those to see if the problem is still there or this is something with Slate drums only. Sorry mate but can't really help without seeing your setup and routing.
@kingaya.3124 Ай бұрын
I Love It, I was Just Testing it Today
@wilhemheider Ай бұрын
Hahaha 😂😂😂 it´s for real??
@wyrlismike Ай бұрын
Dude bounce out your tracks to wav file then mix them, they won't change then
@JazzeXtremo7 Ай бұрын
It's more the algorithm for humanization that choose the Ruond Robin Samples, but in the same layer of velocities, use pretty much the same dynamic (at less not too noticiable if you don't try to null) , but yes can be a bit annoying. Anyway you can still mix without mayor problem, at least for sketch the mix and see waths work or not. Them yes, you can render and threat as audio file (that's always recommended, not only for this reason). For the other part, Toontrack nailed it, even if you render one of the duplicated tracks, close the session and reopen, it´s still nulling with the rendered track. But this i discover a few minutes ago, after see your video, i always believe EZDrummer use differents samples each time (like the others plugins behaviour), but now i know it's doesn't. (I still use EZD 2).
@samuelsimalenga Ай бұрын
Plugins will react different because drum vsts are meant to trigger different samples every time you hit play for a more natural sound. It's not a problem, this is how these drum plugins are supposed to operate.
@akosfarkas1159 Ай бұрын
Hi. It looks like the message I tried to deliver wasn't clear for everyone. I don't have problem with differences in the plugin when I record or write the parts with it.The problem happens when I try to mix the drums. Think about it. After you recorded a live drum performance, do you think the drums will change every time you play them back? Of course not. You will hear no changes at all. That's why I said we should print, bounce, render the drums before adding any other processing like compression, eq, limiter, clipper, etc. I was talking from the mixing perspective.
@SonarHD Ай бұрын
@@akosfarkas1159Yeah, you did not explain yourself very well. I was a little confused about it until I read your comment here. Like “of course they’re NOT gonna cancel out. That’s how humanization and round robin works, or else you get the machine gun effect”, is what I was thinking all throughout. Next time, you need to FULLY explain the problem at the very beginning of the video, and THEN provide the evidence. Not the other way around. Had you done that, this video would’ve been much more clear AND shorter since you wouldn’t have to show more than one drum sample library to demonstrate your point, nor that it was a Reaper “issue”. Use the KISS principle: Keep It Simple Stupid (no offense meant of course. That’s just how that acronym goes), and you’ll end up making better, and more informative videos. Take care!
@MortenAndersen-hjemmesider Ай бұрын
I also have Scheps CS2 but rarely use it....don't know why, because you are absolutely right it is a great plugin.
@akosfarkas1159 Ай бұрын
Give it a go next time you start a new project. Or just open an old one and try to remix it with the plugin. It's a really fun exercise too. 😉
@MortenAndersen-hjemmesider Ай бұрын
@@akosfarkas1159 deal 🙂
@danzirvine Ай бұрын
This is super useful! Any reason not to use a transient shaper to remove the attack as one can remove the transient but leave the sustain?
@akosfarkas1159 Ай бұрын
Hi. The reason I use the compressor and eq combination is that this way, I have very precise control over the attack and release and I can compress the sound, which brings up the sustain a lot more. Then I can select the frequency to cut with the eq. But of course you can experiment with other tools. 😉
@Studio22mix Ай бұрын
Nice trick 😊 I don’t care that much about bleed because the drums supposed to sound like one instrument not individual separate instruments. I use the bleed to get a cohesive sound, often I also let vocals and guitars bleed just a little bit though the drum room to get the effect of glue and sound like everyone is playing in the same room. Just a tiny bit can make a big difference.
@LuisCerdasPrimate Ай бұрын
thank you very much !
@akosfarkas1159 Ай бұрын
No problem 😉
@andrevierbucher2863 Ай бұрын
You've figured out how good drum plugins work. They always sound different. If you want the same sound every time, use a simple drum sampler. Then you'll always get the same thing. How boring is that?
@akosfarkas1159 Ай бұрын
Hi. What I tried to explain was that during mixing, I don't appreciate the random changes. I don't mind if not every take is the same. Such as in real life. But once I commit to the take, it always stays the same. Such as in real life. After you record your drummer, the recordings don't jump around every time when you hit play.
@inversionofcontrol163 Ай бұрын
@@akosfarkas1159 so you have to bounce your track
@akosfarkas1159 Ай бұрын
Yes. Simple as that. I just tried to explain and give a demonstration why it is important. It's surprising how often people just use these plugins as they are and just throw some limiter and clipper on the top of it and call it a day, hoping for the best. Of course, it depends on what you want to achieve. A quick demo or a polished mix. Personally, I want to know what's going on inside my mixes and don't like random surprises.
@LeonKelly 2 ай бұрын
Thanks - this is really useful!
@akosfarkas1159 Ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@riffcity_vince 2 ай бұрын
This is a really great and super smart approach! Thanks for sharing, will definitely be trying this out!
@akosfarkas1159 2 ай бұрын
Happy you liked it.
@shumi001 2 ай бұрын
Hi! Nice video and tones! which drum vst are you using? thanks!
@akosfarkas1159 2 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks. I was using the Krimh drums by Bogren Digital.
@pirateshack9315 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you for this ! I've had this plugin for quite awhile and didn't know it did half this stuff, great job explaining !
@akosfarkas1159 2 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for checking out the video. I'm happy you liked it. To be honest, this is a very capable plugin. Punches way above its weight. Just for fun, try to mix your next project using only this plugin on every track. You will be surprised how far you can go with it. 😉
@Heathshrdz24 2 ай бұрын
I have both Omni channel and the Amek 9909. I seen your video on the Amel channel and thought it was very versatile. What do you prefer personally? I like them both.
@akosfarkas1159 2 ай бұрын
Hi there. Well, to be honest you can get a decent mix with both. The only thing that can be an extra feature, that in the Amek plugin you have the TMT stuff, so you can emulate slightly different EQ behaviours on every single channel and in my opinion the limiter is more useful, but other than that... I don't know. It's a tough question :D
@mortality_sorrow 2 ай бұрын
Nice review, thank you!
@akosfarkas1159 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. 🙂
@flajszferenc 2 ай бұрын
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🥰
@jbva804 3 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@init-crioxica 3 ай бұрын
So... is it better than iZotope oZone 11?
@akosfarkas1159 3 ай бұрын
Hi. I wouldn't say better or worse. It depends on what you are looking for. I'd say very different. This is a console emulation, designed to use it on individual tracks or busses in your mix. Ozon is designed mainly for mastering, so I would put it on my master bus, or use it on a finished mix. Obviously Ozon has more to offer when it comes to functions and features, but I wouldn't open it on every single channel in a 40-50 multitrack mix. Short answer is: both of them are great for what they are designed for. I'd use the console in my mix, and use Ozone when I want to do the final tweaks on a finished mix.
@init-crioxica 3 ай бұрын
@@akosfarkas1159 Please tell me, is this console worth the money? Of course, now it costs $90, but in advance they ask for $400, is it really possible that for embellishing, for example, a guitar or drums, the Tube Tech Classic Channel would be worse than the this Console, seriously, it seems to me that the Tube Tech Classic channel is much better than this console, most likely I’m wrong because I just downloaded console and so far it seems that it is too sophisticated, although in terms of the final sound it is not that much better than the Tube Tech Classic channel... I’ll try to find a video where this console is used separately on a guitar or drums, if possible.
@NightsteelOfficial 5 ай бұрын
what's the name of the last kit preset? That sounds like something I'd have use for.
@akosfarkas1159 5 ай бұрын
Hi. It's called Sweatpant-Swag. 🙂
@NightsteelOfficial 5 ай бұрын
@@akosfarkas1159 haha cool name. It had more of a hard rock vibe that i’m looking for.
@moronpoliceHQ 5 ай бұрын
This was great. You take it slow and deliberate while explaining how it works. I appreciate that a lot as someone who is stupid.
@akosfarkas1159 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'm happy that you found it helpful. 😉
@JustanEdrummer 6 ай бұрын
It's electronic drums, not "electric" ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
@nerychristian 7 ай бұрын
Nice drumming. Do you know if this would be compatible with drum pads like the Nord Drum 3P or the Korg MPS-10?
@akosfarkas1159 7 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks. I beleive it doesn't really matter what MIDI device you use, as long as you can figure out the MIDI mapping. After all I used it with a midi keyboard so I'm sure it will work with other pads too.
@zachmacrockproductionsinc.9902 7 ай бұрын
cool sounds ,,I bought it from Bogren ,but my iMac was -is to old to drive the Kontakt program
@akosfarkas1159 7 ай бұрын
Can be CPU heavy that's for sure.
@dinocifaldi2512 7 ай бұрын
How can I use the outputs on my Alesis strike pro to my mixer and output my vst sounds from ezd3 through my monitor or to foh. I want to do this for 2 reasons, to practice and adjust each instrument during practice and while doing so record and use in post?
@akosfarkas1159 7 ай бұрын
Hi. If you want to use the outputs then you will record the audio from the drum module and not MIDI. So you can't use midi drum vst with audio. Those outputs for audio only. You need a mixer with the same amount of inputs as many outputs on the drum module if you want to record every drum pad on an individual track. Or you can record in stereo the whole drumkit using the left-right outputs so you need only 2 inputs on the mixer or adio interface. That would work for front of house and PA systems. But again, those outputs on the drum module are for audio signal, directly capturing the original built in drum sound. You cant use them to trigger midi drum vst like ezdrummer. Hope it make sense.
@Simon53188 7 ай бұрын
I don't have an audio interface, but I have a midi to usb cable running straight into the laptop. Will this work or do I have to get an interface?
@akosfarkas1159 7 ай бұрын
Hi. Yes I believe this should work. The only thing is that you have to make sure that your DAW recognized the drumkit as a MIDI device when you plugged it in. If you can see a signal coming in to your DAW when you hit a drum pad, you can record MIDI. Then just open a drum plugin on the recorded MIDI track and see if the plugins MIDI mapping is the same as the drum's.
@Jczarnik88 8 ай бұрын
Great Video! I have the same kit and have been searching for something like this for a while. Would you mind explaining how you record with a backing audio track? Is it simply just imported into reaper and you play along? Thanks!
@akosfarkas1159 8 ай бұрын
Hi. Thank you. I use Moises to remove the drums from the backing track. This is an app you can run on your computer. It brakes down any music into separeted tracks. So you just import the tracks from the app into reaper as WAW files, mute the drum tracks and just play along. Easy as pie ☺. You can find great videos about Moises app here on youtube. It has a free version as well. 😉
@shainparwiz 8 ай бұрын
What software do you use
@akosfarkas1159 8 ай бұрын
Hi. You mean as my DAW? I use Reaper.
@andrevierbucher2863 8 ай бұрын
Hi Ákos, I like the way you explain things. I would like to see many more audio examples. And so that the video doesn't get too long, it would be nice to divide it into several parts. 15 minutes is enough at a time. Thank you for your work!
@akosfarkas1159 8 ай бұрын
Hi. Thank you for the feedback. To be honest I was thinking about breaking down the videos by instruments or instrument groups, let's say in the first part I focus on drums, then in the second part bass and guitars, and in the next one on vocals or the mix bus and so on. In the future videos I will try something like that. Thanks again.
@AndreiMai9 8 ай бұрын
Nice work Akos! Thanks for the sharing the knowledge with us! I’ll definitely be keen to find out more about the production part.
@akosfarkas1159 8 ай бұрын
Hi. Thank you. More production related video will come for sure. 😉
@tekis0 8 ай бұрын
Brains orx may not be able implement those cool features because SSzL, Focusrite, are still in business and want true to life emulation.
@Stu.6 8 ай бұрын
Great work
@akosfarkas1159 8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Di_Berserk 8 ай бұрын
Как ты ее размутил чтоб она у тебя работала? В рипере вверху нет кнопки....
@ratana_music 9 ай бұрын
Nice video. One of my favorite channel strip!
@akosfarkas1159 9 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@ledonnAgmail 9 ай бұрын
What reaper theme are you using?
@akosfarkas1159 9 ай бұрын
Hi. It's called Commala 5.
@mydefault1366 9 ай бұрын
Very good tutorial Akos.
@akosfarkas1159 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@AleFerrari81 9 ай бұрын
Very good video man! Where I can find good drums presets like yours? Please help me if you can 🙏 🙏 🙏
@akosfarkas1159 9 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks. If you install the free version of Slate Drums, it comes with 3 presets. They sound decent and with a bit of EQ and compression you can craft your drum sound to be perfectly sitting in the mix. Also there is the free version of Krimh Drums by Bogren Digital. It comes with a very nice preset tailored for metal and finally you can get the free ML Drums. It is kinda limited with toms and cymbals but has nice presets as well.
@michaelk.8915 9 ай бұрын
Great one. Thank you for that. I bought the plugin on Black Friday. I knew it was good, but I didn't know it was that good. I just searched for a video on how to use it properly. One question. Did you only use the plugin on the GuitarBus? No editing of the individual guitar recordings?
@akosfarkas1159 9 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks. Happy you liked the video. As far as I remember I didn't do any processing on any tracks but the Amek plugin. It is a very capable channel strip and you can do a lot after you figure it out and get use to the workflow. I'm sure you'll love it.
@funeral3 10 ай бұрын
Is it plug and play or you have to make a lot of adjustments in the app to work with Alesis strike pro ?
@akosfarkas1159 10 ай бұрын
Hi, unfortunately by default it doesn't map with the kit and there is no midi map for the Alesis strike (like Slate Drums) in the plugin. You need to manually assign each pad to the right drum. It took me like 15 mins then I saved it as a user preset. So you need to do it once, save it and you are good to go.
@Zsullivan27 10 ай бұрын
LOL I clicked on the video and got a ECHO Landscape ad. 😂😂😂😂
@akosfarkas1159 10 ай бұрын
Well... as wa all know death metal and landscaping are very similar activities 🤣 btw I didn't even know that there are ads on my video. Thanks for letting me know.
@RyanTalada 10 ай бұрын
First of all, THANK YOU for this tutorial, it helped me out a ton. Also, I have the exact same E kit as you and have tons of trouble with the Hi-Hat. Every review I see about it has said that the triggering on the hi hat pretty much sucks and I have gotten frustrated with it as well ever since I bought it. You are the only person I have heard say that it works amazingly, so I was curious if you changed any settings to make it better or did you just kinda get lucky haha. Thanks
@akosfarkas1159 10 ай бұрын
Hi there. To be honest I don't know if I got lucky or not. ☺ I think the main problem with the hihat is that people set it way too tight on the stand. I saw a youtube video about it and it was a game changer for me. Try to find it unfortunately I can't remember the guy or the video title. Basically it's about leaving a bit of a wiggle room for the hihat so it can move and wave upside down. Try to loosen it up a bit. I hope it helps. Let me know.
@luisgamermatt3665 3 ай бұрын
honestly all i did to fix my issue was to replace the hi hat ever since i got a new one it works amazing
@lue7813 11 ай бұрын
Hi, really great Sound, Playing and Mixing. All done with Reaper?
@akosfarkas1159 11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. Yes, all done in Reaper.
@flajszferenc 11 ай бұрын
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
@djw457 11 ай бұрын
I'm probably at the stage where I can finally use this plugin, your video makes me see it in a better light, in the past I'd just use the presets, but I need to actually use it to better understand what I'm doing with it. I bought it on sale cos it looked pretty, and I liked the idea of the random channel summing.
@akosfarkas1159 11 ай бұрын
Thanks. I had the same issue in the past. Didn't really understand what I was doing. The best way to learn any plugins to open it on every track and try to tweak the knobs to see and hear what they do on different instruments. ☺
@3684541 11 ай бұрын
Really nice
@akosfarkas1159 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@probilmusic3396 11 ай бұрын
Whaat the hell i have this plugin and i been ignoring it all this time🤨🤨 sounds really good and clear
@akosfarkas1159 11 ай бұрын
I ignored it too but I watched a plugin demo a few weeks ago and I was like: Let's try to mix a song as it was on a console desk. I think it works.
@peterheinen6110 11 ай бұрын
This plugin is soooo good. Whenever i have added too much mojo, the bx-refinement comes to the rescue
@akosfarkas1159 11 ай бұрын
I know. ☺ It happenes to me all the time. ☺
@constantinranis 11 ай бұрын
Compressor on reverb .. interesting, my normal reverb chain is EQ-reverb-saturation but I will give the compressor a try .. I would also like to recommend the plugin fuser, it's like trackspacer but better, instead of making vocal pockets on every instrument I made a final Instrument/backing vocals channel and triggered the fuser it with the main vocals and it was like instead magic
@akosfarkas1159 11 ай бұрын
Hi. I heard about fuser (the advertising literally pops up in every 5 minutes on facebook ☺) but I was a bit sceptical. I will give it a try. Thanks.