The context of Romans 11 is salvation, which is established in verse 1. 'Election' means chose (to choose) so that its use in verse 28 is just another example of God's choosing, in this case speaking of corporate Israel. So, yes, 'the elect' doesn't always mean salvation. But in the context of Paul's arguement in Romans 11, it does. Verse 28 is an aside, inserted information concerning Israel's conversion/salvation.

Nope. Church history is full of of the greatest preachers that were Calvinist (Charles Spurgeon etc) . You may not agree, but that doesn’t mean you should talk about people this way. The way you slander God’s people is shameful. It seems you’re the one spreading lies and misinformation.

I don’t listen to “preachers” - but there is a lot of amazing work being accomplished now that we don’t have to rely on published books and commentaries… Lately I’ve found Wil Hess - excellent. The democratization of ideas thanks to the internet. The seminaries have lost their grip…

I recommend this channel to every Christian I run across. Truly there's nothing like it. The Christian world is in trouble as it stands now. It's time to do something different. The world is changing so fast. It's time to mature in Christ and show the world we're not childish and goofy. I think reality in the next decade will force us to and I actually see a brighter future for us. God bless you all.

Bad Doctrine begats Bad Behavior; Bad Behavior begats Bad Doctrine. Where does the Cycle END???

The apostle Paul couldn't reconciled this apparent contradiction he speaks of in Romans 9:19-21. How can we? Paul had no answer, except to say the potter has a right to make whatever he desires.

An example of Christian edification would be the outwardly expression of charity- such as we read regarding the fruits of the Holy Spirit...and that expression is then bestowed upon society- think charity hospitals back in the day. Somewhat rudimentary thinking on my part, but I think I know where you were going with this. The expression we would have (X) or (Y) without Christianity would hold true...

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard 😂

These dudes really pissed Kevin off.

As a Calvinist Pastor...Yes you should tell the truth.

🙏🔥Who do you say that I AM?🔥🙏 The question Jesus asked Peter in Matt 16 is the same question that he asks us today. While most people associate Jesus with a human as John the Baptist, Elijah or another old testament prophet. Peter answered that Jesus was the messiah the son of God. Jesus told Peter that his answer was correct but only the Father could download that answer. Jesus was man but he also was divine. He was God in flesh People who thought as Peter would make up his church and the gates of hell would not prevail against them. If Jesus was the divine son of God. How should we process that information? How should our behavior line up as his believers? John 14:15-23: Jesus explains 3 times in these 8 verses "If you love me keep/obey my Word's/commands" God defines love through the eyes of obedience. If 1/3 of the Angels rebel and were kicked out of heaven. Then why should humans get to disobey? Peter was not perfect. In fact 6 verses later Jesus compares him to Satan by telling Jesus not to go to the cross. The cross is significant to the believing church. It paid our sin debt. The resurrection is also significant. It shows us that we have have divine power not to continue to sin. God/Jesus's Holy Spirit is the vehicle that help navigate this truth How you answer this question will determine if you are truly saved or not Make a Godly decision 🙏🙏🙏

" 7 point Calvinist " 5" point Calvinist is bad enough. For me they are a cult, yes they lie. I went to one of their churches for 20 years and I was still going to Hell until I was born again and left the church. What a beautiful day it was when the two ( my wife grew up in one of their churches) of us got baptised. Nice people but wrong believe system.Thank you Jesus.

According to Calvinism the non-elect are actually damned by the preaching of the Gospel as defined in 1 Corinthians 15. So the gospel, as biblically understood, is certainly not good news in Calvinism for most of the world.

Thanks!

Do you know anything about an organization called Acts 29? The church my daughter goes to was given a 50,000 dollar grant to start another church in a nearby town with the stipulation that they teach Calvinism. They started by using a book in their small group Bible studies titled ”The Joy Of Calvinism ”. At the time my sister also attended that church and when she objected to that book the pastors told her that this book title THE JOY OF CALVINISM with a picture of John Calvin had nothing to do with Calvinism. What can I do to combat this. My relatives who go there know Calvinism is a false religion but all their friends go there so they keep going. This makes me quite frustrated.

This is almost like what we're seeing get exposed in government right now with USAID. It's like a coup d'etat, but slower, in increments, like a long game. The creepiest part for me, and obviously I can't know people's hearts, but I don't get the sense that these guys are doing this out of genuine worry for the congregation. It doesn't feel like a "these poor people have been been deceived and need truth" type of thing. It feels like an extremely self serving endeavor to enrich these guys.... like a pyramid scheme or something.... and their model of doing it consists of altering doctrines and church structure for the sole purpose of control. Very nasty stuff.

Must've learned their tricks from the Progressives.

"as a 7 point CALVINIST" he avoids the question and hides

The person controlling the money, even by proxy, controls an entity.

If every knee shall bow, every tongue confess, the elect is finally up to the individual, for they are to be forgiven of a whole host of all manner of sin, by the sufficient sacrifice of Christ. What then? Still can't refuse salvation? If you can still refuse salvation, you still have free will. Gaslighting: bullshitting by another name.

Excellent brother Thompson, thank you for putting it up. You exposed the lie of this calvinist doctrine so thoroughly it was almost brutal. I despise calvinism because it is a lie.

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God's choosing certain people isn't secret knowledge, it's in the old and new testament.

I'd love to hear your take on the "sacraments". You, coming from a baptist background like myself, know how they are more of an afterthought compared to those of say the catholics/lutheran. I feel like we (from baptist upbringing) are missing benefits from them because of our attitude towards them but also know people can put too much emphasis on them. How should I properly view them in light of growth > rules and beliefs?

So, Jesus said to those who were following him, 'Therefore, if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall the Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him." Luke 11:13. Our Lord Jesus also said to some individuals, 'But you do not believe because you are not of my sheep. My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me.' (He did not say, You are not my sheep because you do not believe) John 10:26-27.

I feel like maga is a cult.

Rules are for obedience of fools and for the guidance of wise men (1st half vs 2nd half life wisdom)

How can the spiritually dead be raised to life? Believe the Gospel like the Bible teaches Is that something like how can someone dead in unbelief come to see the Kingdom An interesting question which Jesus answered in Jn 3:3 Oh yeah Even Nicodemus wasn't dead or totally depraved

actually the opposite. Arminians completely misunderstand the Gospel because they misunderstand God's sovereignty and the actual nature of man's total depravity. For the most part, Arminians are simply logically inconsistent. For decades I was 'vehemently" opposed to "Calvinist Thug" theology. Then, a patient person walked me through my logical inconsistencies over and over and over until it finally dawned on me, and I was very grateful for that. One can not get someone to 'understand' Calvinism by way of argument. Only when God opens your eyes to it will you understand. Its the same with 'proclaiming' the Gospel. One can not 'explain' the Gospel to anyone at all in an attempt to 'reason' with someone as if to reach their mind so they can make a 'decision'. That's nonesense. One is not saved by way of human reason, as if to say a man realizes the truth and accepts it. That would make salvation a RESPONSE of God to a human action. In the flesh, man can do nothing. Absolutely nothing, being dead in sin. It is only when God regenerates a man that he can now, SEE the truth. Much the same, God opens ones eyes to the truth of reformed theology. Politely, I have simply stated my piece and I really don't want to engage in arguments or respond to diatribes.

‘Repent & believe the Gospel’ would make zero sense.. God would need to make you repent & make you believe.. so 🤔 you wouldn’t actually be doing either. But hey, shut up and agree huh.. accept the hard truths of the goon squad 🙄🤦🏻

BTW, I am definitely NOT a Calvinist…. Was waiting for the part where you explain why “spiritually dead” is not correct terminology. I’ve always believed that Adam and Eve’s spirits died when they sinned in the garden. Also what the verse that says we are “dead in trespasses and sins?”

God only is sovereign God only has a free will. Definition of free: a will without cause or influence. God declares the end from the beginning. Man proposes God disposes. The Great Potter the mere clay. Pharoah and Nebecannezer two of the most powerful. Putty in His palms. Free will a demonic doctrine, probably the last one man will relinquish. Satanic: Not Thine, but MY will be done. Not just Calvinism but all of Christianity gets this wrong. The word in Greek is Aion satanically mistranslated eternity where the obvious translation is Eon. HUGE difference HUGE truth. Such words as eternity eternal everlasting forever and ever do not exist in a properly translated Scripture. The five eons. Since the flood we have been in the third what Paul called a most wicked eon. Two GOOD eons remain, the thousand years and the new heavens and earth, after which our Lord abolishes death and everyone is vivified, given life beyond death. Everyone Calvinists. The elect are the first not the only. Your big mistake. God is love and has no fellowship with eternal punishment. That would be Satan having fellowship with bible translators and their dupes.

TULIP is a poison delivery system that removes grace from the gospel.

The problem is, churches do not divide the word of truth. They preach discipleship to the lost man. The lost man needs to hear the gospel to be saved. The saved person needs to learn discipleship, for rewards in heaven, First Corinthians 3:11-15, and the chastening of the Lord for His children who are walking in the flesh. Colossians 3:5-6. But there are only a few churches that do not mix the free gift, of eternal life, Romans 6:23, with discipleship. So we have unbelievers who are trying to walk in the spirit that they do not have. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30. Romans 8:9. Without the Sprit there is no salvation. Calvinist preach service for salvation. Not the free gift of God apart from works. Romans 11:6. Romans 4:5. Salvation is a free gift. Discipleship is for believers to keep from the chastening of the Lord, and service for rewards in heaven. The Corinthian church was an example of baby believers that were not growing. They were still going to prostitutes, coming to communion drunk, suing each other, and one man was sleeping with his Fathers wife. First Corinthians 5:5. Saved but living like the devil. Paul even had to rebuke Peter for showing partiality between the Jewish converts and the Gentiles. Romans 1;16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, (First Corinthians 15:1-4) for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to EVERYONE THAT BELIEVETH, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Calvinism teaches that God only gives certain people the faith and condemns the rest to hell. That is completely false. God offers the free gift of eternal life to everyone that BELIEVES. John 3:18. Romans 6:23. Eternal life is the GIFT, not faith, or a reward for good behavior. If Calvinism was true, then man has an excuse. You never gave me the faith. The bible says man is without excuse. God gave us His word. John 3:16-18. John 6:40. And this is the will of Him who sent me, that all that seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH on Him, may have everlasting life, and I WILL RAISE HIM UP ON THE LAST DAY. John 6:29. Jesus, answered, and said unto them, this is the work of God, that ye believe on the one He has sent. And almost all churches twist/wrest scripture to make salvation by works. Matthew 7:21-23. Jesus said, many will come before me on that day and call me Lord, Lord, and tell me about how they prophesied, in my name, and cast out demons, in my name, and did many wonderful works, in my name, and then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. You trusted in what you did, your own works, not John 6:40 and John 6:29. They trusted in their works, instead of what Jesus did for us. Romans 8:9. Second Timothy 2:19. God knows his sheep because they have the seal of the Holy Spirit in them. Even if the do not believe it anymore. Second Timothy 2:13. John 5:24. Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on Him that sent me, HATH, (PRESENT TENSE) EVERLASTING LIFE, AND SHALL NOT COME INTO JUDGEMENT, BUT IS PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE. God cannot lie. Acts 16:31 Period. Salvation is done, not do. John 3:18. John 3:36. KJV only. The gospel Paul preached. First Corinthians 15:1-4. Romans 1:16. Galatians 1:6-9. Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that we have preached unto you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, LET HIM BE ACCURSED, ANATHAMA. Galatians 2:21. I do not void/pervert the grace of God, for if RIGHTEOUSNESS come by the law, then Christ died for nothing. I hope some of this scripture makes sense. I am 84 years old and have only been saved for 76 years. Only a sinner saved by GRACE. Romans 11:6.

Since this is a Calvinistic Christmas message I would like to remind all, that when you are buying a Christmas gift to a Calvinist friend, then you also need to open the gift for your friend. If your Calvinist friend shall take the paper of himself he will no longer consider it to be a gift because he has done some work to get it 😅

Do those who are "Dead" smell like Lazarus?...............just wondering

There are far to many lukewarm Christian’s around the world

Everything Rodney does and represent is offensive. There a reason why puppeteers were revered long back - entertainment value. Striking was how he justifies total depravity - ' parenting how can two sinners raise a sinner ... On the way of the Lord ' So Calvinism makes it clear there's no need for Jesus, the bible and church either. All sinners need to be saved is Calvinism.

Paul warned us about these wolves in Acts 20. The lack of discernment and the lack of Biblical knowledge is and has always been the Achilles heel of the Big Eva. This convert take over of Calvinism is becoming overt and they don't care that their evil doctrines divide and destroys fellowships. In their twisted arrogant minds, the end justifies the means (lie, cheat, deceive, destroy and kill biblical truth) as long as the end results are flipping them to Calvinism which are demonic doctrines. Wolves do not attack or go after healthy sheep, no, they go after the weak and young vulnerable sheep, just like Piper is doing at this very moment. God help your sheep!

But calvinists have a problem with asserting the thoughts and motives of others in their rejection of calvinism. But arminians 9/10 times refute and reject a form of calvinism which is more of a caricature rather than the reality. That said, I think any side who slanders and attacks calvinists or arminians in an accusatory manner rather than having a discussion, that side is not a Christian side

So we are dead, therefore we can't accept the gospel, because dead people can't approach God and believe. They are dead. So before we can do any of that, we have to be made alive. Ok. Hang on a minute, what about John 5:40 and John 20:31. Apparently, we have to come to Jesus, believing in him, to get...wait for it... LIFE. And Colossians 2:12. We are raised through faith. That can only mean raised to life. And it is through faith. How can this be? We are not literally dead, that's how. 🤦‍♂️

Calvinists are people Who don't believe The True Gospel But wish to not be damned. So they made another gospel That none but they believe (They say) And none but they can. The rest of us therefore are free (They must admit) To believe The True Gospel And leave them out Just as they've insisted. Buh-bye! Bye! So long!

anyone have a word on what happened at the meeting that church was having about all this?

I have never heard a Calvinist say they were not one of the chosen. First Corinthians 1:21. For after that, by the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of preaching, (1st Corinthians 15:1-4) to save them that BELIEVE. John 6:47. John 5:24 John 6:40, John 6:29. God in His sovereignty gave man a free will. Eve was deceived by the serpent, Satan, but Adam sinned of his own free will. Romans 5:19-21. For as by one mans disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one, many shall be made righteous. Moreover the law entered that the offence might abound, but where sin abounded, GRACE did much more abound. Romans 11:6. Romans 4:5-8. Romans 3:26-28. Where is boasting then? John 12:32. First Timothy 2:4. Second Peter 3:9. Second Peter 3:16-18. Calvinist wrest the scriptures to their own destruction. First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that YE MAY KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Best Amazing Grace you will ever hear sung. You-tube, Dan Vasc, AMAZING GRACE. John 3:16. First John 2:2. See you in heaven Kevin. John 3:18.

The straw-man of Calvinistic Total Depravity. Those who push the idea of Calvinistic Total depravity want you to focus on the idea of sin. No one is denying that man is tainted by sin. What they don't want you to realize is what they won't say out loud. Calvinistic Total Depravity is defined by the idea that man is unable to, of his own free will, place his faith in God. That in order for any person to have any faith, God must first change them so that they will "want" to have faith and when that is done, he will want nothing but to have faith. I want you to think about that for a second. If God has to change you so that you will "want" to have faith, it's not faith, it's programming. Further, when followed to it's logical end, it means that the only reason that anyone ever ends up in hell is because God wanted them there. If he didn't, then he would allow everyone to have faith. This is in direct contradiction to Scripture. Do not let people distract you by saying that Total Depravity means that we are tainted by sin, or that it doesn't mean that people can't be nice. This is a straw man argument meant to distract you from the problematic Biblical contradictions of Calvinism. Remember, often times, it's not what Calvinists say, it's what they don't say and don't want us to realize, that is the problem.

It (Calvinism) is one of 👿 best "Hath God indeed said?" ruse. It actually has "Pastors" in "Pulpits" at "Christian Churches" claiming scripture teaches "God only loves some in a Salvific sense"

Biblical description of spiritual death. It also disproves total depravity because we are born spiritually alive according to the Apostle Paul: Romans 7:9-11 KJV [9] For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. [10] And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. [11] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Appreciate your take on listening to others of a different tribe. My grandfather was a minister in the Primitive Baptist Church and my grandmother was a member of the Church of Christ (how that came about I have no clue). I learned many good things from both groups although I do not completely agree with either one. As you mentioned it is good to listen to others, thanks for the good info.

Your an atheist who just believes one God more than standard.

Hang in there, Kevin. Fight the good fight.