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@Kougeru
@Kougeru Жыл бұрын
I wish you were still here to do one for her 20th anniversary
@andyjwalkerz
@andyjwalkerz Жыл бұрын
I am crying now.......
@ddreileyz
@ddreileyz Жыл бұрын
TBH I don't understand the idea that fans were owed any type of explanation. I get kind of angry knowing that these young 20 year olds were basically...as I see it...thrown to a bunch of rabid dogs. I blame JYPE for this. This type of conference meeting with angry fans should not have been held. I don't have any memory of this happening ever in the USA....and we've had a bunch of crazy artists in our midst for 50...60...70 years that have done worse than what Jaebom or 2pm ever did. These innocent young Korean artists were thrown to the wolves. This wasn't right!!! I'm sorry...but what 20 year old has the wisdom and intellect to articulate...coherently...what they are feeling and thinking? Especially 20 years olds who for 3-5 years had their "whole" life controlled by an agency? Idol agencies CONTROL their artists...so how can we expect a 20 year old to think and speak with wisdom at a fan meet like this? CRAZY! Today...2pm has matured and are fully able to articulate all their thoughts. I'm proud of who they have become. But it is sad for me knowing that their music careers were impacted by a mishandled media situation at the start of their 2pm career. Who knows how much more popular they could have been? Who knows if they would have been pushed almost exclusively into the Japan market? I find it sad for the young Jun K, Taecyeon, Nickhun, Wooyoung, Junho and Changsung who I've come to know about these past 4 years. I don't know much about Jay Park so I can't talk about him. I know 2pm as just these 6 members and knowing this little bit of their history...makes me sad that their careers were negatively impacted in popularity.
@ddreileyz
@ddreileyz 2 жыл бұрын
This whole story makes me angry. I support 2pm. I don't support what happened to JP (even though I'm not a fan of his) or 2pm who were all in their early 20's being controlled by JYP. These guys were young. They shouldn't have been treated with hate. People telling JP to die. Not cool. People hating on 2pm at this conference...not cool either.
@jpgot7634
@jpgot7634 3 жыл бұрын
I still have mixed feelings about this and 2 PM - but one thing is for sure: leaving JYPE was the BEST decision that Jay Park ever made! Look at the kingdoms he's built with AOMG and H1GHR! The quality of music that he puts out! Honestly, Jay Park was WAY TOO talented to be a part of a boy band and an idol, who has to work under someone else - you could just see his passion and uniqueness wanting to break through at every moment! He just had a completely different aura about him. & Now, even idols are leaving JYPE to join his company! So proud of Jay and so glad he left to become the superstar he was meant to be! 🙌🏽
@clueless7999
@clueless7999 2 жыл бұрын
I still doubt about this issue with 2pm....but Man!! jay had all my respect 🙏 . He is a true artist.
@daniej125
@daniej125 Жыл бұрын
A fan of an idol group saying this is so...interesting...to me. He was too talented to be in a boyband as an idol? Because idols in boybands aren't that talented? Lol. OK.
@jpgot7634
@jpgot7634 Жыл бұрын
@@daniej125 Don't be crazy and take things so literally. I'm saying he's SPECIAL and has NATURAL TALENT. It's harder to be a solo artist and succeed - all idols eventually want to go solo, but starting in a group creates a pathway for them and not all of them do well as solo artists. No one dreams of sharing a stage with anyone. When you're in a group, naturally some members will shine more than others - that's why we have a 'bias'. And YES - Jay Park is different than other idols and has proven that through his success. Name another idol who has accomplished what Jay Park has and then you can try talking to me. 👋🏽 And my idols would agree with me because they signed to his labels as solo artists! People who argue with random strangers on the internet like you are so weird!
@shinnasunga4928
@shinnasunga4928 4 жыл бұрын
watching this right now reminds me of Hanbin leaving Ikon :( they lost a leader that really has a great impact on their group.
@sharonjackson8710
@sharonjackson8710 4 жыл бұрын
I caee and love him too!!! Very much. Sha sha
@sharonjackson8710
@sharonjackson8710 4 жыл бұрын
Its okay guys!! God has plans for everything that happens!! God Bless you all. Sha sha
@yukyayukyukya2330
@yukyayukyukya2330 5 жыл бұрын
jay is so funny tho i love him 😍
@Kaito-Ipn
@Kaito-Ipn 5 жыл бұрын
2019, I miss this era.
@kudoten
@kudoten 6 жыл бұрын
大塚愛ちゃんの曲はもはや私の小学校時代の価値観のバイブル笑
@britanysdreams3383
@britanysdreams3383 6 жыл бұрын
People need to screw off, his comment wasn't that bad and it was long in the past. Fans need to stop thinking they have power over idols, leave them alone.
@rabiyajamil4078
@rabiyajamil4078 7 жыл бұрын
i hate anti-fans they are crazy go get a life u haters!
@dhaen9396
@dhaen9396 8 жыл бұрын
This was a hurting fact about Korean fans. They didn't seem to care about these artists' feelings and just cared about what they believed in. :(
@a.m8565
@a.m8565 8 жыл бұрын
were they close them 3??
@anna123rocks
@anna123rocks 7 жыл бұрын
That's what it seem like it TT^TT
@dhaen9396
@dhaen9396 7 жыл бұрын
ITBAYANEE 12 Taec and Jay were the closest. :(
@SyirahJei
@SyirahJei 4 жыл бұрын
they sme study in college too...
@scarXVI
@scarXVI 8 жыл бұрын
it hurts so much to hear that baby Junho and 2PM had to go through this, some of those 'fans' were so rude they were more like antis but 2PM is strong and happy now and Jay is doing fine, it's all that matters
@sian7016
@sian7016 8 жыл бұрын
I've never watched videos about jay leaving, but I've read comments and people made out that they gave no shits about it. then i watch this and taec sounds so annoyed and upset, then nichkhun sounds upset too. I wish I had seen this sooner
@aseelkanfer3537
@aseelkanfer3537 8 жыл бұрын
actually after jay park left them they won an award and they said something like jaebum ( jay park's korean name ) we won and do you see that and love you that was very sad to see and they were crying , I hope they become friends again
@sian7016
@sian7016 8 жыл бұрын
Same but not long ago jay said he didn't keep in contact anymore
@omonaijaj
@omonaijaj 4 жыл бұрын
@@sian7016 He's said in interviews that he wishes the best for them and Twice. Honestly the fAnS mess up everything
@snhyy
@snhyy 8 жыл бұрын
now this thing happened again, junhyeok leaving day6 really bring back this memory in my mind.
@amyy2436
@amyy2436 9 жыл бұрын
I think almost all of Korean fans are crazy. Because they 're only thinking about themselves and They think that all the idols is not human and doesn't have no feeling at all.
@dustermuster8818
@dustermuster8818 6 жыл бұрын
the fans are scary!!!
@laxcadk
@laxcadk 4 жыл бұрын
100th like. eeeyyyyy
@Sa-fd7ih
@Sa-fd7ih 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of those EXO “fans” who said they don’t want EXO to ever get married 🙄 something’s wrong with their head 😂
@andyahn4917
@andyahn4917 9 жыл бұрын
From bottom of my heart, 2PM have only 6 mems. Watching "Wild Bunny" & "Idol Army" show, I think JB's acting not like a leadja. Anti-fan of 2PM, pls keep ur mind clearly.
@masterpiecetreespro
@masterpiecetreespro 9 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain what this is?
@mannelshah
@mannelshah 9 жыл бұрын
man this song with WINDOW and OBSESSION give me goosebumps, GD freaks me out sometimes ! i LOVED all the emotions here : anger , sadness , lonelyness and especially the despiration at the last verse plus the relief at the very end ( you know , the pain went away when she did :p :o )!!! <3 <3 i just don't know what to say ! i just love it even tho "dark" isn't my favorite kind of anything lol but GD managed to make me LOVE it <3
@cuteanddorky2pm275
@cuteanddorky2pm275 10 жыл бұрын
Even though I recently became a fan of 2pm, i watch all of these shows with then together watching this made me cry. 2pm don't need to bring jay back I just wish they are still friends and that they could have a duet together.
@JKGROB
@JKGROB 8 жыл бұрын
yes I wish for the same thing
@omonaijaj
@omonaijaj 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@snoosification
@snoosification 10 жыл бұрын
the funniest thing is : that jay decides to quit - he got tossed out by the company - and why are this two telling everybody that he quits??? interesting - a fool who thinks that the company didn´t got their fingers in it. thank whatever is above - that jay came back and kicked this idiot asses - along with this nazifans who signed the petition to get him out of pm and the country(cause he is not a korean - he´s american and the patriotism of koreans don´t like american korean who are succesfull in korea) - karma is a bitch people - and what comes around - comes back for you hard!
@sf599
@sf599 9 жыл бұрын
Is that so
@naifghazali7837
@naifghazali7837 8 жыл бұрын
snoosification if you knew more than they,why dont you post the prove that he being kicked out of jype?they are still ok.jun. k and wooyoung even attended AOMG launch party. the reason they cannot show their relation in public is because the fans who are living in denial. hating something without a reason.
@timiniho
@timiniho 7 жыл бұрын
sainches orthodox Let's not shade either Jay or 2PM, neither were really in the wrong. JYP did kick Jay out, JYP was the shady one. That is known by most people who have actually looked into the issue.
@MrsAlmightyKey
@MrsAlmightyKey 10 жыл бұрын
WOW WOW WOW that's all i can say to this because this is the first time i heard them speak out on this topic!
@emmal9976
@emmal9976 10 жыл бұрын
Everyone says really stupid stuff sometimes but everyone has a reason.
@shee_0912sh
@shee_0912sh 10 жыл бұрын
It's hurting me every time I see people blaming 2pm 'bout Jay issues. U can know just by listen to their answers in this video. It's not 2pm who doesn't care, but Knetz n fans who doesn't care, back when the controversy out. I think what they've done is right. You can never truly appreciate someone until they left. People start to think they're wrong when Jay left and accept him back to the Korean music industry. Always support 2pm and Jay!
@Claireroxy102
@Claireroxy102 10 жыл бұрын
this whole controversy is just really sad and makes me want to cry because there was so much miscommunication DD: And though Jay is doing so so well solo, I feel as if 2pm isn't complete without their short, seattle-born, leader. I wish he would go back TT^TT
@pawineesarapan735
@pawineesarapan735 10 жыл бұрын
all of 2pm's member believe in Jay! .... Tac said " of course he will come back" ... and now he come back ... although they cannot work together but i believe they still love each other. So, I will still support both of them .... 2 PM fighting!..... Jay Park fighting!
@bevyberry
@bevyberry 10 жыл бұрын
well cultural difference and language barriers and some sh*t stirring reporters his comment really just sounded like a big rant any person would have after starting a completely different life elsewhere but i'm so happy for Jay Park for where he is right now i guess it was one of god's test for him <3
@meimeysplitz7157
@meimeysplitz7157 10 жыл бұрын
What really happen to jay? What actually he did wrong? I have no idea at all..I'm really curious about what happen and why did they have to split up?? I mean I'm a fan of 2pm since then but I still don't know why jay have to leave them to save everybody?? I was searching for everywhere to find the news bout it but I didn't found out.. Anyone can tell me the reason?? Pls..btw I'll always be a big fan of both 2pm n jay..
@MugiwaraCarat
@MugiwaraCarat 10 жыл бұрын
a few years ago when jay was still young and in America. he mouthed off about korea and said how much he hated Koreans and whatnot on his Myspace account . Years passed and Jay is in in 2pm but the Myspace post resurfaced and the Koreans got extremely angry and... yea the kicked him out :(
@elephant027
@elephant027 10 жыл бұрын
I watched an interview jay park did maybe last year or so and he said he got a phone call from jyp n that they're gonna terminate his contract. Now we know for sure he didn't leave on his own. I think you can find it somewhere on here; KZbin.
@meimeysplitz7157
@meimeysplitz7157 10 жыл бұрын
kidkat T-T
@Ilefbenabbes
@Ilefbenabbes 10 жыл бұрын
Mugiwara98 if you read the junho part you can see that jay leaving isn't because of his myspace thing they said its for a reason 2PM felt betrayed and they can"t tell us about also because we will feel the same way they do and may hate him
@timbjornhov5981
@timbjornhov5981 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a straight up lie by JYP. JYP went on shows "beating around the bush", talking about how Jay had done something wrong but he never said what it was. JYP then publicly came at Sidus HQ for signing Jay. Sidus HQ got upset that JYP were going on shows giving excuses as to why he/they kicked out Jay, & literally asked JYP publicly to give the reason why he kicked out Jay, what it was that Jay did. JYP never did. That right there tells you how much of a bullsh*t lie it was all along, it was just a good cover up by JYP so he didn't have to explain why kicked Jay out.
@HottiiSkath
@HottiiSkath 10 жыл бұрын
I so many mixed feelings about this.. I loved loved loved Jaebum when he was in 2PM but still.. I don't want him and the other guys to be hurt. I wish that the Korean fans had been a little quicker to support Jay :-( Jay is doing amazing now alone, it's not that.. It's just that you can feel he's missing in 2PM.
@dragonfly5665q
@dragonfly5665q 10 жыл бұрын
2PM will always be a 7 members group in my heart </3
@dragonfly5665q
@dragonfly5665q 10 жыл бұрын
janauary 3rd. i think Junho means that on that day it was decided that jay park wont be re-uniting with the group any more while they were not sure and having high hopes of him coming back as a member of 2PM again
@maryjh3025
@maryjh3025 10 жыл бұрын
It's not only jay think Korea is gay..even my friends think that way..if jay is from us and taec it's different culture,as you can see most korean men are skinny,too skinny sometimes and wear make up..but with 2pm..I can see muscles lol it's nice to see a different side of korean men..here in us men doesn't wear make up or gaudy clothes( I mean girly clothes)taec and jay was raised in a different world..and people are easy to judge without knowing the truth and most ppl doesn't think b4 throwing hurtful words..
@marajoya8724
@marajoya8724 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. It's been weighing on my mind since I became a fan of 2pm only to find out about this mess (I became hottest after they split) I didn't know what to think or believe. The guys just didn't seem like they would abandon jay so easily and jay didn't seem like the type that's easily bullied.
@saipinsiampun2742
@saipinsiampun2742 11 жыл бұрын
Need eng sub
@1sweetcherrycrazy
@1sweetcherrycrazy 11 жыл бұрын
Nichkhun stuttered saying I and then we wanted him to stay <3 this is so sad 2pm is hated a lot and now people are comparing them with jay success... They do have feelings and all the shit they get from other fandoms isnt worth being an idol!
@btay9529
@btay9529 11 жыл бұрын
Junho is the shady. He hated jaebeom the most with junsu. He continues to use his name for marketing even though it was him that wanted jaebeom out the most.
@billiegallagher8401
@billiegallagher8401 7 жыл бұрын
True true...he was jealous of Jay.he can do it all
@angel71611
@angel71611 11 жыл бұрын
only if i knew k-pop earlier :(
@LeePeteZzzaA
@LeePeteZzzaA 11 жыл бұрын
?? NO ONE CARED ABOUT HIM BUT THEY TELL HIM TO KILL HIMSELF? FUCK YOU.....JYP SHIT
@omonaijaj
@omonaijaj 4 жыл бұрын
What? Are you brain dead?
@mzlil
@mzlil 11 жыл бұрын
thank you
@mzlil
@mzlil 11 жыл бұрын
wow, that's it. hmm, they're quite judgmental but i guess everyone are if someone said something about their country.
@sherryfong9120
@sherryfong9120 11 жыл бұрын
Yea..I really feel like that fan right there shouldn't have questioned Taecyeon like that because I feel like they must have tried and there wasn't anything they could've done other than that. I feel like that fan should have try to consider Taecyeon and the others' feelings before saying things like that.
@nadeennaja1656
@nadeennaja1656 11 жыл бұрын
น่ารักเกิน
@vendictiveme
@vendictiveme 11 жыл бұрын
He said stuff along the lines of "Korea is gay" "i don't like it here" something like that. He wrote it on his private blog when he was first in Korea and trying to get accustomed to a completely new place.
@daniDan831
@daniDan831 11 жыл бұрын
You are so right
@mzlil
@mzlil 11 жыл бұрын
I know this happened a while back, but what did Jay wrote on myspace that got the Korean fans/etc so upset?
@myatasha3520
@myatasha3520 11 жыл бұрын
im just glad coz jay still run his music career..i can still watch his dance even without 2pm..i think its better:-)
@ohudushi3417
@ohudushi3417 11 жыл бұрын
I hate jay because of this. Everyone said 2pm bullying jay and everything, and 2pm got hurt by this rumor. Please, just leave 2pm and jay alone. Both 2pm and jay are doing well on their own path. Stay strong Junhoooooo