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@ceeesmack
@ceeesmack Ай бұрын
Doctors who can't figure this out are doctors who don't know how to Google. I found tons of info by just using some crude search terms, which led to the scientific terms, then I used those scientific terms to find TONS of info and videos, including this one.
@user-pg2wb2ft5w
@user-pg2wb2ft5w 2 ай бұрын
My over training symptoms are usually a bad colder flu like symptoms like my body has completely broken down. I find a couple of days rest does the trick
@mancampovestiminvatam
@mancampovestiminvatam 2 ай бұрын
That's just overreaching accompanied by a depressed immune system. I had that in the past until I learned to take care of my vitamin C intake, especially after training. The doses that work for me: - regular days with moderate or no training: 180-360 mg/day (1-2 tablets) - after excessive effort: 500-1000 mg on that day, and half of that the next day. The idea behind overtraining is that you don't recover in days. You're lucky if you do in months.
@annajuddart2701
@annajuddart2701 2 ай бұрын
Brendan Leonard and had to see it I am surprised at how I (not being the sort to be emotionally explosive) burst into tears within the first 10 seconds of this video. Human beings are amazing.
@martinepeters9891
@martinepeters9891 2 ай бұрын
I have a problem that I get these symptoms even with moderate exercise. It starts with less sleep, waking up multiple times and especially less REM sleep.
@shorerocks
@shorerocks 2 ай бұрын
One of the greatest moments of recorded sports history.
@MrTkennedy14
@MrTkennedy14 5 ай бұрын
I think I suffer from both OTS and exercise dependence. I didn’t hear her describing both happening simultaneously. I was training hard for two years (strength training and running) alternating days and then had a divorce and (temporarily) lost my career due to Covid. I then ramped up the training even harder. For 6 years I trained hard for approximately 90% of days. My body is chiseled but I feel like death. Going cold turkey feels like a worse version of hell. I also am very scared of losing muscle and gaining body fat. Do you think that doing a split of one day strength training, one day running, one day walking/stretching, and one day off would work? The combination of not getting a dopamine release and already feeling depressed/anxious is overwhelming. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
@oatypeddler264
@oatypeddler264 4 ай бұрын
I am in the very same boat but with cycling. Sometimes can’t even cope with a day completely off the bike. I’m also really restrictive eating patter which exacerbates the problem. I can’t focus due to brain fog, but get so stressed on rest days that I’m completely exhausted and unproductive. A very stressful past decade with completing doctorate, loneliness, losing my mother. Massive loss of sexual function, cold, poor skin, and a resting heart rate of 40bpm. 😢
@user-ws3ce5bn6f
@user-ws3ce5bn6f 6 ай бұрын
Good for her!
@billbarthen4802
@billbarthen4802 7 ай бұрын
Awesome, Andrea! I’m glad we had a chance to talk about your runs when we discussed my supporting Michael when he went for the FKT.
@andrealarson6843
@andrealarson6843 7 ай бұрын
That's where it all started!
@KarlKrassnitzer-mm8wb
@KarlKrassnitzer-mm8wb 9 ай бұрын
A great example how a mindset change can release you potentials.
@evansilva9451
@evansilva9451 10 ай бұрын
Girl is an amazing athlete, she should be talked about more compared to other athletes
@mbaleva1261
@mbaleva1261 10 ай бұрын
Totally different women, both champions. As a runner, you can only hope to get somewhere near their mindset. That's why I am incredibly grateful for who Courtney is because she is welcoming and makes you feel that there is enough room where she is. 🙌🏼
@lindal986
@lindal986 10 ай бұрын
100 x 100 , incredible accomplishment, well done ! Great episode, thanks for sharing. So many things to follow up here.
@kilosanders
@kilosanders 10 ай бұрын
17:24 the beginning of her story
@tyronrossouw44
@tyronrossouw44 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jill! This is so very helpful to me!
@tyronrossouw44
@tyronrossouw44 11 ай бұрын
Squatting, deadlifting, and compound movements 6 hours a week... really has got me feeling horrible. Mood is all over the place. Night sweats. Anxiety - sometimes with depression. Heart rate all over the place. Feel tired after waking up from a good nights sleep.. Glad this topic is being looked at more and more across the "waves".
@DonTrump-sv1si
@DonTrump-sv1si 10 ай бұрын
Hay man im feeling this. How long did it take to get better? Im unable to walk from the parking lot to the store with out being tired. My arms are heavy and its hard to concentrate and everyone is irritating and im depressed. I cant even sleep good. Feel shitty. Is there hope here?
@tyronrossouw44
@tyronrossouw44 10 ай бұрын
@@DonTrump-sv1si the best thing you can do is STOP training. You need to change your thinking to a period of restoration, think months not weeks. I have stopped training now for 4 weeks - and I can feel slight improvements. But I am allowing myself more time away from training. It's not easy - eating more and moving less, as Jill says, is not easy but you need to adopt the long term view. The ultimate goal is being healthy and enjoying your training, none of those apply to an overtrained person. Some things that have helped me. Read more - spend more time on hobbies, guitar playing, music making, whatever keeps the mind stimulated. Good diet - including healthy nutritious carbs (sweet potatoes, potatoes, etc) and lots of red meat.
@vikashverma212
@vikashverma212 4 ай бұрын
Hey, having similiar symptoms, how long did it take you to heal fully?
@user-cy7tb4ot8k
@user-cy7tb4ot8k 4 ай бұрын
2-3 years to full recover​@@vikashverma212
@user-cy7tb4ot8k
@user-cy7tb4ot8k 3 ай бұрын
​@@vikashverma2122-3 years
@telesniper2
@telesniper2 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's quite easy to overtrain, and to do endurance training suppresses your testosterone quite a bit to begin with. There is no point to training more than 1.5 a day. There will be no conditioning benefit beyond that. That's what amateur runners don't realize, that training much more than this will cut your T in half! Jill is very knowledgeable about this fact, which few people seem to be familiar with or admit. The pros and NCAA athletes will supplement with just enough test to bring it back up into the normal range (so they can pass tests). That allows them to continue with brutal training regimens. That's kinda an open secret. That's why every now and then one will pop for high test. It's because they try to supplement just enough but keep it in the normal range, but it's hard to do because testosterone can fluctuate. So their body might rebound a little bit because they got a bit more sleep or ate something more nourishing or whatever and their T jumps a bit and BAM they're busted. But it's funny a lot of amateurs don't know it and keep trying to imitate college/pro runners training. A lot of people are just ignorant and lazy and do junk miles. Fit in better workouts in under 1.5 hours a day. That's plenty of time to do what you need to do. You should be training to run faster and faster pace, not longer miles on junk runs.
@DarkoFitCoach
@DarkoFitCoach 11 ай бұрын
I am in fitness and i overtrained myself into oblivion. Feeling like DEATH is a 100% correct description of it. I was certain i have some terminal disease. Its insane
@DonTrump-sv1si
@DonTrump-sv1si 10 ай бұрын
Hay man im feeling this. How long did it take to get better? Im unable to walk from the parking lot to the store with out being tired. My arms are heavy and its hard to concentrate and everyone is irritating and im depressed. I cant even sleep good. Feel shitty. Is there hope here?
@DarkoFitCoach
@DarkoFitCoach 10 ай бұрын
@@DonTrump-sv1si i am still recovering buddy. Been out of the gym for almost 7months now. Slowly recovering yes. Depending on how deep the hole is that u dig for yourself it can be weeks or many many months to recover. I assume u stopped gym correct?
@DonTrump-sv1si
@DonTrump-sv1si 10 ай бұрын
@@DarkoFitCoach Yes, a couple days out of gym. was feeling it a couple weeks ago and i took a week off because i felt good, but then bam, here she is again. Im 45 and im thinking im 25. I also started trt 6 months ago.
@callum5752
@callum5752 10 ай бұрын
Hey, I've been out of the gym for 7 months too I think because of the same problem. What were your main symptoms? Currently I have chronic fatigue, and some level of insomnia. The worst one is every time I exert myself physically, in any sports, the next day it makes my fatigue so much worse and I can even end up ill. Do you experience the worsening of symptoms after even small amounts of exertion in sports? I had to quit my job, but i'm hanging on to my university studies, but every day I feel terrible and I hope I'll eventually make a full recovery.@@DarkoFitCoach
@skmz2020
@skmz2020 7 ай бұрын
For me its 10 months now i cant even walk for 5 min and every day feels like hell, i have done so many tests and everything came normal , i was running 15km every day for a month and one day suddenly I couldn’t get up … i am basically bedridden now ….. how are you feeling now ? What are you doing for recovery ??
@laurenrock7914
@laurenrock7914 Жыл бұрын
I love this and both women are so incredible.
@pieboy75
@pieboy75 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, so awesome Courtney and Jennifer were able to "meet" and talk to each other; hearing Jennifer say what Courtney meant to her was so very touching... Prince rocking the stage in the infield at the Auburn track- what a sight...!!
@andrearothe4859
@andrearothe4859 Жыл бұрын
As someone getting back into running 25 years after my distance running days were over, I am noticing the void for mentors and role models in ultra running who are women. I just see a sea of men at the starting lines. We are all united by the love of running, and no hate intended, but GIRLS LET’S DO THIS. I am humbled and inspired by those who are stepping up. Can’t tell ya how many times I have been brought to tears by Courtney’s particular mixture of grace and grit. Much respect, ladies!
@robynrobertson728
@robynrobertson728 Жыл бұрын
The best concept ever AND such an encouragement ❤
@brigidjohnson3029
@brigidjohnson3029 Жыл бұрын
Gunhild and my mom are best friends. Before their hip replacement surgeries in 2022, they trained together 2 or 3 times a week. I am so proud of Gunhild for making this amazing accomplishment. My mom and I both adore her and think the world of her. Her determination is so inspiring. She still gets together with my mom at least once a week for a long walk. My mom also had her hip replaced. I love them both and support them in everything they do.
@Brockdorf
@Brockdorf Жыл бұрын
This was super fun to get to see Amy live after years of only reading her stories.
@peachmelba1000
@peachmelba1000 Жыл бұрын
This was great. I'm not an ultra runner, just a regular athlete in his late 40s who has recently failed his own body with overtraining. This will be a relisten gor sure. Lots of value to take away.
@patriciacostales7919
@patriciacostales7919 Жыл бұрын
Will you be able to buy just the 50th Anniversary Western States issue, or is it only part of the subscription?
@hestology
@hestology Жыл бұрын
I tip my hat to all of them.
@Potato62271
@Potato62271 Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@jessicas4345
@jessicas4345 Жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much for these interviews! So awesome to hear about everyone's triumph!!!
@PetKatFizz
@PetKatFizz Жыл бұрын
Thankyou. Always cry like a baby watching the last finishers of the golden hour. What they've been through!!
@runningscents2532
@runningscents2532 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful😊
@RossNoble1987
@RossNoble1987 Жыл бұрын
Great convo!
@ashleighthompson515
@ashleighthompson515 Жыл бұрын
Callie is white not Native and keeps misrepresenting through ethnic fraud
@MilesVictors
@MilesVictors Жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Thank you so much! I'm currently battling with understanding my own fatigue levels. Not sure if we are approaching OTS, but just wary of it. This was so well timed for me.
@est099
@est099 Жыл бұрын
Great job indeed! Congratulations to both of you.
@trailrunningforlife
@trailrunningforlife Жыл бұрын
Amazing couple. They did incredibly well to finish this. Those mountains and bogs are no joke! I got caught up and off course climbing barbed wire fences in the exact spot they mentioned (around mile 160) 😂 Congrats again to you both Guy and Krista!
@blipdriver
@blipdriver Жыл бұрын
What a lovely couple. Their love for each other is obvious and infectious.
@TheLuckless
@TheLuckless Жыл бұрын
Just tried this today to add some variety to my weekly workouts. I really enjoyed it: it's punchy and robust.
@aneurinellis3926
@aneurinellis3926 Жыл бұрын
Great conversation. Lots of relevant bits and pieces for dreamers like me. Rebecca's good inspiration. 👍
@MrManicola
@MrManicola Жыл бұрын
Wow! Incredible human being ... didn't realize your level of running success until I heard you got 100 in your first 24 and then stopped as if it was nothing
@michaelrawdin8082
@michaelrawdin8082 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I enjoyed listening to this video. I appreciate being able to relate to someone as iincredible as Carilyn
@MrManicola
@MrManicola Жыл бұрын
Rebecca is really just awesome! I don't know how she finds time to do this all. Good choice UR magazine. ...I was one of those who dropped at Green Cove at Yeti at the top of the mountain frozen and wet. Scott hope to see in 2023 at Yeti. 100M redemption for you and me
@rodneymartin1898
@rodneymartin1898 Жыл бұрын
Jump to 6:05 for the start of the interview
@amyvelasquez9577
@amyvelasquez9577 Жыл бұрын
I have had a partial knee replacement at 5o and running again. So if you have to have one, you can still run sister! The injection helped for 10 years!!!!! You rock
@unashamed11
@unashamed11 Жыл бұрын
Loved this interview! Riley, thank you for sharing your story with us - I’ll be rooting for your Western States performance! Thank you Scotty for being such a thoughtful interviewer - first time I’ve watched/listened and I’ll be checking out more of your interviews.
@jillsy2815
@jillsy2815 Жыл бұрын
Likeable as he appears, he needs to compete as a man or in a 3rd category. Extremely unfair to the women and it's not even a real competition!!!
@jillsy2815
@jillsy2815 Жыл бұрын
@@joegreene7619 Was she BORN a female?
@jillsy2815
@jillsy2815 Жыл бұрын
@@joegreene7619 Hey if you know her personally just tell her she is inviting controversy and acrimony using this "nonbinary" term. It makes ppl think she is a GUY just trying to get into the female category for an unfair advantage. It's okay to not be a girlie girl! There is a broad range of female and she is part of it as is. She has spectacular results on ultrasignup and needs to not ruin her life by claiming "nonbinary." Tell her that LOTS of women don't feel feminine and it's okay!!! There's no reason to claim nonbinary. It just invites useless drama. Ask her to please reconsider. ❤️
@living4speed680
@living4speed680 Жыл бұрын
Dean is a legend
@alj4781
@alj4781 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a third category to be fair?
@jillsy2815
@jillsy2815 Жыл бұрын
They definitely need a 3rd category!!! This is soooo unfair
@jillsy2815
@jillsy2815 Жыл бұрын
@@joegreene7619 Western States I read said if a nonbinary person gets top 10 then it can be contested. This is horrible
@jillsy2815
@jillsy2815 Жыл бұрын
Hey I googled her and she actually is a real girl. She just apparently thinks she not "girly" enough to be called a girl so chose nonbinary. I hope she changes her mind cuz she's inviting unnecessary controversy. 🤪
@anneything1014
@anneything1014 Жыл бұрын
thank you, Doc!
@stevenlongdc
@stevenlongdc Жыл бұрын
Dean = Credibility in the running universe. Don’t let the haters get you down. You are way above it.
@jaywilldoit
@jaywilldoit 2 жыл бұрын
STAY HARD!
@patrickbrown7398
@patrickbrown7398 2 жыл бұрын
Love the 70s porno music in the background🤣🤣🤣