TF2 Scout: "Hit the bricks pal! You're done!"

Been on Logan n thor since day 1 now all these dull claws are hoping on the wagon

His ultimate is absolute hot dumpster fire garbage, you have better chances defending hitler than this character in rivals lmao

Bro he’s ultimate isn’t clutch

There isn't smurfing bruh the comp just sucks that bad ain't no one wants to go through that stuff again

A character that is only good if the rest of the team is made around them means they're still weak

also his revive is so slept on, the amount of times me and my friends have clutched from that alone is crazy

I like Rivals, but I still love Overwatch. I agree on the point you've made about overloaded kits, but I have to point out that Ramattra and Hazard are both tank heroes. They need to have overloaded kits because of the 5v5 format, and Venture doesn't. I hate to turn this into another 5v5 6v6 debate, but honestly I think it's just another symptom of the disease.

MvM was one of TF2's last highs. And it's outright dumb that OverWatch 2 cancelled PvE. A co-op mode could even bring me to try out OverWatch JUST for that mode (I'd never try PvP in OverWatch).

I wish they would just make it more skill based like it was on release. Rework the brain dead heroes and make them take more skill and balance the game around the high ranked players. That’s when the game was at its peak. I want motivation to actually want to grind the game and get better

Yes. They can and I believe they will. They just needed pressure put on them. Rivals is perfect for the amount of pressure being put on ow.

Well hanzo is 40 and kiriko like 17 but somehow they grow up all together with Genji practicing sword art when they where kids but there is no way to put that together.

Overwatch died when they released Brig. As a game, it's unsalvagable. But as a story, if Blizzard actually gave a shit, it could do well as an animated series.

I don’t think the game is actually that much worse than Rivals, they could probably catch up in a couple months or so. The problem is getting people to come play the game. The only way they could actually pull that off in my opinion would be a TV series. The cinematics and the lore is what makes Overwatch so good and they stopped doing that.

They should go back to making the PVE with skill trees. People that have never played overwatch arent going to start playing over small things like lore or balance patches because they dont know or care about it. Overwatch has a poor reputation that deters people from even trying. The only way to revive the game is to fix the reputation, which is by addressing what made this game so hated in the first place. There has to be massive changes that encourages people to get the game

Overwatch is still much better than Marvel Rivals lol

They really should continue with the story. It really doesn't feel right anymore whenever a new hero is introduced. Instead of the new characters having a place in the Overwatch lore, it feels like they're just shoved in to fight in team-based combat with other characters. 😔

7:10 Definitely agree with that. Ever since the OW devs gave up on the Story mode, the characters have lost a lot of meaning to them. Overwatch lore was one of the best parts of the game and when OW 2 came out, the story mode would solidify the game's setting. Now that they've canceled the game mode, it feels like something is missing within the game's lore. All that work building a character just thrust them into a team based game? 😮‍💨

Loki isn’t the best or worst he’s run of the mill but he’s extremely useful if enemy dps doesn’t automatically shred the clones or heals. But I feel like he’s the most skillful healer behind sue the rest of support feels like just juggling cooldowns and understanding to know when to use them. But loki is very situational and only lacks behind when there’s no aoe invincible heal support aka luna cloak and sue.

The left click into hammer throw right away is the only combo u should be using.

What’s your rank

You can tell if you’re going to get Thor force if your hammer is blue

I thought this was a thor guide, not a clip of a match where some dude bitches and whines about how bad their team is

you ripped the thoughts straight from my head

Even though i agree with some of your points, i have to respectfully disagree with the second half of your videos: 1. "No character sits in the back and just heals in MR" Let me introduce you to Rocket, Mantis, luna, and CD 2. "There is no lifeweaver in MR" i guess that's because he is an Overwatch original hero, and your hatred towards his design and playstyle is extending to the game as a whole. 3. "Overwatch devs, don't give a s***" Are you talking about the same devs that listen to the community and patch unbalanced heroes in a week when in OW1 took 2 years to nerfed down Brig and get rid of goats? Because to me that sounds like this dev team cares about their game and their playerbase. It's true that good skins are almost non-existent nowadays, and ftp players are dying of thirst. The gameplay in it of itself hasn't changed that much(which you could argue was a mistake to put the 2 in there in the first place). Personally, to me, it sounds like the move to 5v5 and the rebalancing of the entire game to be more about individual skill and individual playmaking is what made you lose interest in the game but you still played it cause you were already really good at it and had invested so much time in it. And now that a similar game to OW1 comes out, that wonder and excitement of a team base heroe shooter is back for you. But in a couple of years(or maybe months cause most MR players are OW players that will demand balance instead of fun sooner or later) you will lose that excitement again and call MR a trash game because it changed from what attracted you to the game in the first place but that doesn't make it a bad game a a whole. Just say that you don't like something and move on. You don't have to call it trash and insult the devs that work hard, and by extension, the players like me who still play and like OW. Just som food for thought

Bro sounds like he's in an abusive relationship and he still loves the girl that constantly cheats on him

hes insane when i feel like magneto or strange isnt going my way hes my go to

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The right click is great, what are you on lol It's a great poke tool and can be used to secure kills very well due to how much damage it does. Saying it's only really useful in melee combos at point blank is just another way to say "I can't aim it well and can't hit targets unless they're right in front of me."

Right click is used for animation cancelling bro

If you have a good healer I for sure think he's the best damage tank hero he has great movement

So like, is this entire video just about how you don't like Overwatch because on Ball and Doomfist you can't reach Lifeweaver when he stands on a petal? Now, I'm not saying that's what you're saying, but I'm struggling to understand your point because you don't exactly explain what's wrong with them. They're not "spectator characters", they're healers. There are other support heroes that are less heal-centric too, if you enjoy more mix of damage and healing like Illari, Moira, Bap etc. Or if you like to heal, but also like to shoot, there is Ana and Juno. It's weird to hear someone say they don't like Mercy or LW because all they do is heal, yet in the actual game if I play Illari or Moira I'll get instantly yelled at for "not healing enough" by scoreboard-obsessed feeders who wouldn't stop dying even if we had 3 supports healing them. Also Lifegrip is an absolutely insanely fun and unique ability, honestly the most satisfying ability in the game to pull someone back into the map after they're booped into the pit on Ilios, or grab someone out of a Rein pin when they're about to smack into the wall, and you have to be quick about it too with your reactions which makes it a way more fun ability than, for instance Mercy's res. The thing I could maybe criticise, is that it might make more sense to have an ability like Lifegrip on a hero that doesn't have an ability like Petal (but who does have some form of mobility cooldown to reach high spots, similar to Bap's boots.) That way Lifegrip wouldn't overlap with Petal, as both are abilities that can lift players to high ground. They do synergise well (petal and then pull someone to safety), but they also overlap in function too which is the opposite of a good synergy since both abilities can make the other obsolete. IMO it'd be cool if.... gripping someone who is at full HP, doesn't insta-grip them, they get an Interact prompt to accept the grip, and these Grips don't give you a long cooldown. So you can use it for re-positioning players (in a non-annoying way also) without wasting your cooldown. Since Grip is mostly saved for reactive use to save someone rather than pro-active. It's ok though to not like LW, that's fine, just don't play him. Likewise I'm sure tons of people hate playing with/against Doom and Ball. I do think LW could use some tuning though, I'd like for him to get more offence so he can look for kills more when his team is just falling over at the choke. He's very long range which means his projectile based weapon is mostly used for chokepoints and for defending himself when the enemy reaches him. Perhaps he could have his projectiles boosted in their travel-time so he can snipe stuff besides pylons, turrets and really bad widows, but the thorns get a nerf in damage but increase in RoF to keep them from being too crazy. Or maybe something like he gets Kitsune-style RoF increase on his petal, but firing while on a Petal drains its health or something... just trying to think of some offensive utility.

My issue is they have no problem dropping a whole season and bundles to take your money but refuse to fix anything. They don't respect where the money comes from.

I feel like the maps (like overwatch) are very hit and miss.

just let it die

Nice vid brother. The R click is super useful tho. You can use it in melee combo to do damage on tanks while you are rotating around them to push them into your team. I basically use it whenever I can to build Thor force and do damage, then use Shift for displacement. When/how to use R click could be it's own video.

I feel like the biggest indicator that overwatch’s dev team have run out of ideas or are unwilling to experiment is the fact that almost every new character in the game has just been a mash of other characters and not something fun or innovative. Hazard has a really cool design but words cannot describe how disappointing it was to see that every single ability he has is literally just a reused mechanic from someone else. He has no originality behind him and it’s so sad to see how far they’ve fallen off when it comes to fun and fresh mechanics

Who cares about Overwatch anymore. Marvel Rivals has its own problems but is already 10x better than Overwatch. They deserved this.

If the developers want a way to make the right click a little more usable while making Thor more relevant, I think a good change would be adding a fourth Thor force slot. I’d probably also make his dash worth two hammers instead of one, meaning he can dash twice but it’s a serious commitment since he’ll use all of his cooldowns. Otherwise it makes the right click a more consistently available attack since it’s only using 1/4 hammers. It can also allow his F to feel like a big commitment since he won’t have enough Thor force to dash, but the last hammer can be used on the right click to finish off kills. I think this would make Thor feel a lot more fluid and add more depth to how he manages his Thor force, but I also don’t play this hero too much so I wanna hear the thoughts of Thor mains on this change. It could be overkill but it’d be nice to see him as one of the better tanks especially with how big of a name Thor is.

I feel like you

No

Supports in MR are generally boring for me outside mantis. I also hate how terribly optimized MR is.

Illari and Sombra are useless? I can agree with lifeweaver and mercy but damn. Also haven't gone back to overwatch since rivals came out lol

Overwatch can't die! It still has so much porn to inspire!

I enjoy overwatch , I been playing since release (im hardstuck gold still T.T)

No, the player base(My self included) thought those pve missions were worse than the blackwatch mission. There is no way I am getting into a subscription model to play dogwater PVE content. I don't think there are people who care about the game. The employees blizzard has left do not have the affinity to work on a hero shooter. I purchased battle passes due to wanting to support PVE content for overwatch 2, it came out that the PVE was canceled and they knew it for years. My money was stolen and I want it back.

Good video! Besides the advice of the other comments, I wouldnt call this an advanced guide, this is definitely more basic or intermediate at best. For an advanced guide I'd like to see more on: 1. Thor combos - animation canceling, using the charged hammer to get force back, when to use which combos, etc 2. Matchups - how to deal with wolverine, when to use awakening to blast dr strange shield, etc 3. Flank routes - where you like to go on certain maps, like your Tokyo gameplay in the beginning using your dashes to go up the left building is a great advanced tip Great job so far though! Keep at it!

Lol this guides are just getting cooked 🍳 🤣. I've put in 90 hours on Thor and you missed/wrong so many things.

Good videa, loving Marvel Rivals but had to laugh at "there are no throw picks" - generally no, but Spiderman is the big noob bait for Rivals. Most popular character with the hardest skill set, the amount of 1/10 Spideys I've seen is atrocious. One even managed to throw themselves off the map before anyone got to point, lmao.

You also don’t get more health with the team up. Thor is an anchor character in the game, so his health boost is applied regardless of the team up.