The childhood trauma excuse kept me in a terrible marriage for way too long. When I finally divorced, the pastor who my husband went to wanted me to read the results of his online trauma/personality quiz so I could understand where my husband was coming from….I was like “sir, I have heard all about his trauma for 14 years, my sympathy went out the window when I realized my children and myself are the actual victims being traumatized by the person who constantly retells his sob stories looking for sympathy”

This was so good!

Thank you for allowing us to listen in and hearing Shelia's story. Thank you for releasing HOPE!

Please do not characterize "homeschooling" as legalistic. Not all who homeschool are legalistic. Please be fair and accurate. Please qualify your statement, such as, "in my homeschool experience there was a lot of legalism." Thank you. ❤ Homeschool is wonderful, legalism is not.

Thank you ladies for sharing!

Wonderful! Sheila’s journey is very inspiring and eye opening. Thank you 🙏

Such an amazing testimony and such a beautiful person

God Bless you ladies!!! It’s all about Love 💕

Thank you 🙏🏻 I so needed this right now. God Bless you ladies.

I've watched the original documentary & the follow-up attached to one of the Christmas videos...both were so very moving. We are thru season 3 of The Chosen series now & waiting for season 4. I'm curious if Katherine & Co. plan to gather them for group reactions for further seasons>

Great interview

Wow! Love This!

I didn't know I subbed. I have no hope that I'll find a healthy, moral man. Everyone seems machevallian. Or, I feel nothing for them.

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Could you please share the reference to John MacArthur's view of taking back a clear offender?

Hello, keep being a voice. You might be interested in this channel 👉 #drjohnaking. I find him informative, yet down to earth.

Thank you for your stewardship in Christ.

Our daughter also was Jessica Rose! We love Ruth Hoffman and are proud of what you are doing!!

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This was a great discussion I love how she broke down spiritual abuse at the end.

Okay I am writing as I am listening. Just FYI the 'Freedom Ministry' was at Gateway Church in Lakeview, Texas with pastor Robert Morris who is part of the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) and dominionism (this should give a discerning evangelical Bible believing Christian pause. Bob was also associated with Matt Chandler before Matt was at the Village). LMFT utilizes secular psychology in their schooling programs. The Think Differently website offers limited content for free but most content for a paid monthly plan (help costs money, right?). The Bible gives us guidance/instruction for some physical needs and mostly spiritual needs which includes the mind. The term "mental health" or "relational health" or any of those "healths" is a modern concoction from the also modern term 'mental hygiene" from the mid 1800s (the idea of 'mental health' was NOT Christian in nature and never has been). The 30 year abusive relationship he mentions may have been with his first wife Jackee but I don't know that is just a guess. Yes, it is inappropriate to demand forgiveness, but is his example of "I treated you badly for decades and stopped yesterday so you need to forgive me" a biblical example of why not to forgive? He focuses on the 'decades' aspect of that example which in man's thinking (not God's Word) is unfathomable to immediately forgive someone who abused you for a very long time (one of the hosts affirms this by saying "this is yeah just get over it". He then defines forgiveness as "you look over the other person's behavior or sin as if it didn't happen." Webster's 1828 defines forgiveness as "pardoning an offender, treating as if not guilty, remission of an offense or crime, remission of a debt or penalty." Bob's definition seems to have an implication that the person asking for forgiveness is just doing it so they won't have to face consequences (or they don't believe they are guilty) while the actual definition of forgiveness has an implication that the offender is rightly guilty. Isn't this precisely what God does with us when we repent and ask Him for forgiveness? We are rightly guilty and he pardons us. Immediately. So does God hang on to "healthy boundaries"? I don't think that is found in the Bible (not saying I disagree with having boundaries so not to allow someone to abuse you but be careful of not becoming an abuser yourself. Remember Romans 12:19 "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." Yes you can separate and be forgiving. Yes you can divorce and still forgive, but divorcing because of abuse was not part of Jesus' answer in Matthew 19 or Mark 10 when the pharisees questioned (tempted) him (not supporting an abusive spouse as abuse is always wrong, just looking at scripture). So what is a 'lack of safety'? He does not expound on this. Telling someone "your spouse is trying hard, give them a chance" is NOT the same as saying "now you need to give them what they want" (like sex). So the abuser would need to stop their behavior (obviously) and "publicly take responsibility for their choices & behaviors and do so with empathy and responsibility over months worth of time." Where is this in the Bible? That sounds like man's wisdom/thinking (because it is "unfair" or "not right" to forgive someone immediately who abused you for a long time, right? They may just start abusing you again, right?) So not accepting someone's abusive behavior is now being confused for being bitter? Again, where is this in scripture? The definition of bitter (as in character) is: cruel, sharp, reproachful, sarcastic, hurtful, sinful, a malignant disposition. Bob does not define what "more power" in the marriage means because the headship of the man in a Biblical marriage could be seen as "more power" although that is not what it means. So no real mention of any scripture here from Bob other than the woman caught in adultery (and that was even from his book - a summary and not even the actual scripture) at the beginning of the show where modern psychological terms are used like 'toxic triangle' which is a secular humanistic psychological term, not a biblical one. This is called eisegesis where someone reads into the text what they wish to find or thinks they find there. This is an incorrect way to read the Bible (it is also called "proof texting"). We should exegete the scripture, which is reading out of' the text what the original author or authors meant to convey. So these modern terms/psychological thoughts & theories are superimposed into Biblical teaching. Also, the last part of the scripture was left out "go and sin no more." There is so much packed into that scripture (John 8:1-11) it is a disservice to try to just sum it up and then apply a new 'spin' on it with feel good pop psychology. Whew. It's fine if you disagree and I truly welcome debate but show me in scripture what Bob Hamp is saying here. Show me that what he says agrees with the Word of God.

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This is really great stuff, God bless!