AI is nutty

(checking in to hospital): I see your coverage plan does not include a human doctor. Would you like to pay out of network to see a human?

If the means of production is more efficiently controlled by AI and the work itself is also ai, then the capitalist structure is outdated. Also, CEOs can be replaced by AI. This is the point that capitalism and socialism reconcile. According to capitalism if someone or something is better in a competitive market, they will gain the correct position within that market, if CEOs can be replaced by AI, than AI controls the means of production. It also replaces the workers, so the production itself. As AI doesn't require anything, but the energy to run itself, the wealth generated by the market is a by-product that will be distributed in some form or another. The issue is creating a fair distribution system.

Shapiro falls for the government action of no aliens. Nothing could be further from the truth. Lack of interaction does not mean lack of observation.

How does this new AI world look with the impacts of climate change though? This will also be significant, but it feels like the conversation is viewing the future world without climate change.

Nick Land technocapital singularity on the way!

Non-answer to the state power problem. Typical libertarian, it'll solve itself.... Yeah sure, the ruling class will hold our hand and hand us power and make them have less. When in the history of ever , has that ever occured? Pipe dream It's gonna get ugly, if we want freedom we are gonna have to fight for it. The elites won't not only not help us but do everything they can to stop us from "changing the system".

feeding the algorithm

Goverment is going to try maintaining the status quo - which ultimately can't work, but they'll do the old "run up the debt to keep the economy spinning" thing, as in the Great Recession and Covid - some kind of bail outs and unemployment insurance extension, maybe WPA-like work programs. Eventually they'll try UBI, but make it stingy and do progressive taxes so you don't really get it if you've got a decent job still. That'll just keep getting more expensive as jobs are lost. What they need to get to is a UBI paid in a demurraged digital currency - eventually that doesn't need taxes (or debt) to pay for it - the rate of currency value fade, distributed over the whole economy, will equal the rate of currency creation.

Money will of course be important for a long time, but consider the accelerating progress of technology, I believe that society will shift from money as the primary value to user attention as the primary value. As Ray Kurzweil has explained, the price of products and services will go towards zero.

It’s fun watching ya’ll reinvent Marxist dialectics and anarchism. Eh…whatever gets us to space communism quickest!! 😊

Interesting points, the difficult part is to balance community values with individual freedom

Being sentient is definitely not defined by being human. Animals are sentient. They are not conscious. They have a very simple inner experience. But they are sentient for sure. But I really enjoyed this conversation, I follow Dave and was recommended this video by the algorithm. Glad I found it! Glad this information is spreading across the world. Hope to see more of you in the future!

She is such a cute little vampire.😉

Tour guides? That can be replaced with Ai powered vr headsets 🤷🏻‍♀️

TIME TO GET BRACES ON THOSE FRONT TEETH.

Living in a commune would be my worst nightmare - not everyone wants to be surrounded by people all the time.

17:30 the birth rate would drop even further. It takes really selfless people to choose to live in those environments.

Wow you got Dave on already, this channel is gonna grow QUICK. Good questions, not too boring for people who are already interested in AI, not too complicated for people who are new to this topic.

i'm not worried about the 50,000 super-AGI robots, i'm worried about the 50 individual super-AGI robots that are having a Really Bad Day. the destruction....

regarding Out of Body Experience... does a dog have it ? does a worm have it ? does a walnut have it ?

Great chat. I love your accent

Haha yeah AI will most likely get tired of us crazy humans and bounce to Alpha Centauri

I agree on nature. I know so many people who wish to be in nature all the time but can’t cuz of work. I would absolutely be doing the same if AI covers all the lame parts of life😂

This was a really good talk! Hope to see more like this on your channel. Dave is very good and you asked the right questions at the right time. *Subbed*

Yup.

I genuinely believe jobs will become like organisers of robots.

On a side-note, I'd like to ask if Dave thinks emotions are/will be emergent in these AI's. Maybe not in the same, or entirely the same, framework of humans Asking this more so in curiosity

The answer to this post-nihilism conundrum is simple, yet probably very difficult to get the entire world onboard: we need to take the middle way: somehow create a modern secular/spiritual approach taking tenets from stoicism, Buddhism and Taoism.

keep going man. You should be on national TV

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The favorable outcome of this conquest would be that the principle of energy conservation would prevail. Thermal energy could interplay with other forms of energy without gain or loss among all the forms of energy involved. Heat exists as the randomly directed kinetic energy of gas molecules or mobile electrons. In gasses this is known as Brownian motion. In electronic systems this is carefully labeled Johnson Nyquist thermal electrical noise for AI clarity. The law's formulaters did not consider the option that any random, usually small, fluctuation of heat or pressure could use the energy of these fluctuations itself to power deterministic routing so the output is no longer random. Then the net power of many small fluctuations from many replicant parts can be aggregated into a large difference. Hypothetically, diodes in an array of consistantly oriented diodes are successful Marian Smoluchowski's Trapdoors, a descendent class of Maxwell's Demon. Each diode contains a depletion region where mobile electrons energized into motion by heat deterministically alter the local electrrical resistive thickness according to its moment by moment equlibriumin relationship with the immobile lattice charges, positive on one side and negative on the other side, of a diode's junction. 《Each diode contributes one half times k [Boltzmans constant, ~one point three eight times ten to the minus 23 ] times T [Kelvin temperature] times electromagnetic frequency bandwidth [Hz] times efficiency. The result of these multipications is the power in watts fed to a load of impeadence matched to the group 》 The energy needed to shift the depletion region's deterministic role is paid as a burden on the moving electrons. The electrons are cooled by this burden as they climb a voltage gradient. Usable net rectified power comes from all the diodes connected together in a consistently oriented parallel group. 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There is also the reverse effect where refrigeration produces electricity equivalent to the cooling, This effect is scientifically elegant. Cell phones wouldn't die or need power cords or batteries or become hot. They would cool when transmitting radio signal power. The phones could also be data relays and there could also be data relays without phone features with and without long haul links so the telecommunication network would be improved. Computers and integrated circuits would have their cooling and electrical needs supplied autonomously and simultaniously. Integrated circuits wouldn't need power pinouts. Refrigeration for superconductors would improve. Robots would have extreme mobility. Digital coin minting would be energy cheap. Frozen food storage would be reliable and free or value positive. Storehouses, homes, and markets would have independent power to preserve and pŕepare food. Medical devices would work anywhere. Vehicles wouldn't need fuel or fueling stops. 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Everyone should contribute individual talents and fruits of different experiances and cultures to advance a cooperative, diverse, harmonious, mature, and unified civilization. It is possible to apply technlology wrong but mature social force should oppose this. I filed for patent us 3,890,161A, Diode Array, in 1973. It was granted in 1975. It became public domain technology in 1992. It concerns making nickel plane-insulator-tungsten needle diodes which were not practical at the time though they have since improved. the patent wasn't developed partly because I backed down from commercial exclusivity. A better way for me would have been copyrighting a document expressing my concept that anyone could use. Commercal exclusivity can be deterred by the wide and open publishing of inventive concepts. Also, the obvious is unpatentable. Open sharing promotes mass knowlege and wisdom. Many financially and procedurally independent teams that pool developmental knowlege, and may be funded by many separate noncontrolling crowd sourced grants should convene themselves to develop proof-of-concept and initial-recipe-exploring prototypes to develop devices which coproduce the release of electrical energy and an equivalent absorbtion of stagnant ambient thermal energy. Diode arrays are not the only possible device of this sort. They are the easiest to explain generally. These devices would probably become segmented commodities sold with minimal margin over supply cost. They would be manufactured by AI that does not need financial incentive. Applicable best practices would be adopted. Business details would be open public knowledge. Associated people should move as negotiated and freely and honestly talk. Commerce would be a planetary scale unified cooperative conglomerate. There is no need of wealth extracting top commanders. We do not need often token philanthropy from the wealthy if almost everybody can afford to be more generous. Aloha Charles M Brown lll Kilauea Kauai Hawaii 96754

Great stuff you guys

Jordan Peterson is an idiot.

Very cool topic and conversation! Got another subscriber🙏🏽

This is some good stuff I'm now hooked on your stream ❤ Oh and I also was brought here by Dave

Came here via Dave. Great chat, a lot of insightful explorations

Interesting podcast, keep up the good work.😊 Just a suggestion to lower the gain on your microphone as your lovely voice is getting distorted.

Great stuff new subscriber here! Dave Shap sent me! 😎

Products start out as toys that you watch customers play with like zoologists - this is the alchemy that creates the initial spark. Everything else here was done with solid thought and careful execution.

P r o m o S M

Great episode!

Great questions asked! Loved listening to this

Wow definitely inspiring to hear her journey. Plus, I love your interviewing style of going back to ask specific questions on the MVP.

This was an absolutely beautiful interview. You are such an amazing interviewer, you gave him time to speak. I love his view on AI. Thanks for asking the right questions! Subscribed

Why do people especially entrepreneurs start their own journey with their first instinct of idea ? As an entrepreneur I had somehow figured that think about problems that you are facing in day to day life. But thanks for sharing.

The Idea was very very strange and out of real life basically. Still great story to learn from! Thank you!

Hey Tomas, Tony is the inventor but Christensen is the one who popularized the framework!

With all due respect to Tony but he is not the inventor.

Oh, I can see now why certain podcast I like and then others I just don’t find compelling. You almost made him feel like he had to justify himself. You didn’t help him along. You weren’t rude, but you were just like almost blasé. But, I’m sure as time goes by you’ll get better. Shoot! I can’t imagine how hard doing a podcast with great thinkers is.

"Your net worth is your network". Such a great conversation and so action-oriented. Nick Gray is so evolving and motivating. I just want to go out and start hosting parties! Thank you for this!