I love this exs..very functional task oriented dynamic postural stability exs. Thank you ! I'm so proud to be part of vestibular rehab
@VestibularFirstАй бұрын
Vestibular Practice in the Emergency Department Course: theeddpt.com/vestibular-practice-in-the-emergency-department/
@condewit93Ай бұрын
Great ideas!
@madslouispetersen8204Ай бұрын
I have a question 😊 Would you be able to do a VOR- cancellation test with the Goggles, if you turn on the lights and ask the patient to focus on the light while rotation the head from side to side and the analyze the eye movements afterwards? Hope it make sense 😊
@VestibularFirstАй бұрын
Good question! I've not done it this way. Logistically it might work, but it would be difficult if the patient's convergence was impaired since the visual fixation light is very close to the patient's eyes.
@epluribusunum66222 ай бұрын
I have meniere's it's horrible. I finally got a good doctor that helped me get it under control. I was having 3 attacks a week each over 12 hours. I just hit 32 days no attacks. The worst is the anxiety of am I feeling a vertigo attack coming on or am I ok.
@VestibularFirst2 ай бұрын
So sorry to hear of your troubles but glad you are getting some good help. May you continue to be supported on your health journey.
@adamborg92752 ай бұрын
Some confusion in the nomenclature used here. Short arm PSC-BPPV in this video is referred to as the non-ampullary canalolithiasis variant of the common crux. But in some papers this is referred to as otoliths trapped onto the utricular side of the PSC cupula. This is also said to sometimes generate downbeat nystagmus when head is more extended in the Hallpike, otherwise often not visible. Treatment through repeated ipsilesional Dix Hallpike--Sit ups seems to be succesful in case of canalolithasis here. For the common crux problem I've found success with the Demi-Semont which isn't mentioned here in the video And anecdotally, I've personally encountered lots of these odd PSC variants and just a few true AC-BPPV. In those true AC cases the patients had really strong paroxysmal downbeat nystagmus in the Deep Head Hang and I've never seen such a response in the other PSC-BPPV variants. So if I see this downbeat positional nystagmus that I suspect being peripheral without robust response in the Deep Head Hang, I always default treating for PSC, manuevers specific to common crux issue or the utricular side of the cupula. Haven't found success with the Yacovino in those cases
@VestibularFirst2 ай бұрын
Great insights. Thank you so much!
@epluribusunum66222 ай бұрын
I was hoping for inner ear migraines but the diagnosis is meniere's
@condewit932 ай бұрын
And on the JPE it’s worth noting if one (or both sides) are undershooting or overshooting consistently.
@neurologiabr-dreuldes7192 ай бұрын
Awsome!
@jameswerner79553 ай бұрын
what is treatment for anterior-canal bppv?
@VestibularFirst2 ай бұрын
Treatment options for anterior canal BPPV (to move otoconia out of the anterior canal if that is where they have dislodged) include the Yacovino maneuver and the short CRP (canalith repositioning procedure), to name two options.
@zack_1203 ай бұрын
When they will be on the market?
@VestibularFirst3 ай бұрын
We are finalizing the requirements now and should have an update soon! Thanks for showing interest and we'll make the announcement here and on our other channels so you can be first to know!
@VestibularFirst3 ай бұрын
Access Full Journal Club Recording: kzbin.infottLtYdANoZc
@joshifan293 ай бұрын
This is so disheartening that she keeps laughing and I am over here suffering. 😢
@VestibularFirst3 ай бұрын
I apologize for this. I believe that the speaker may have been nervous speaking for a recording. It is not meant in any way to be insensitive to those suffering. Please let us know if there is anything we can do to support you.
@sheenahorn92054 ай бұрын
My massage therapist is incredible. Receives all symptoms but they return. I'm currently doing physio too
@VestibularFirst4 ай бұрын
So glad to hear you are getting supportive care to meet your needs!
@beratbra24074 ай бұрын
😊
@lizzynatir90838 ай бұрын
This is my own experience and not what I was foretold, my Meniere disease was very complicated with high pitch ear ringing, Dizziness and Imbalance but I was able to conquer this disease with a medicine from Dr Madida Sam on KZbin for only 4 weeks of using their treatment...I recommend this herbal center..
@Melissatutors8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this podcast. I was diagnosed with VM, age late 60s, yet I do not have a history of migraine. So I was surprised with the diagnosis, yet most other symptoms seem to fit. Also, my mother had it.
@VestibularFirst8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! We do see patients in a similar situation often. So glad that you are with trusted healthcare providers to help guide you on the best management so you can be supported.
@jeffwalter9259 ай бұрын
Informative, thanks to all of you for your efforts.
@Mmd79210 ай бұрын
Please find a cure🙏🏻🤦🏻♀️😵💫❤️
@VestibularFirst10 ай бұрын
Researchers are definitely working hard on this!
@jewels896310 ай бұрын
What has Dr. Sharon seen in studies that actually does help with vestibular migraine besides CGRP which I’m actually doing now..Ajovy specifically. I’m also doing Botox.. what is his opinion on dropping the Botox and sticking to just ajovy? What does he recommend in his practice?
@VestibularFirst10 ай бұрын
Here is the response we got: "Vestibular migraine (VM) management is simply migraine management. There are many medications and combinations of medications that can be helpful and what any individual patient ends up taking depends on symptom response and tolerance of medication side effects. With few exceptions there is no research evidence that a particular medication or medication strategy is most effective for vestibular migraine rather than migraine headache. Those exceptions are venlafaxine which works better for VM than for migraine pain and clonazepam which is uniquely effective at reducing central dizziness caused by VM."
@danielkhodr395611 ай бұрын
No offence but that’s why it’s called an idiopathic disease cause no one has an idea what they’re talking about. Something doctors don’t know what it is they say Ménière’s 🤷🏻♂️
@VestibularFirst11 ай бұрын
Yes, it's unfortunate if the diagnostic criteria are not met yet patients are told they have Meniere's. We look forward to more research as they work towards identifying more clearly what mix of genetics and environmental factors can trigger Meniere's disease.
@VestibularFirst11 ай бұрын
It is true that Meniere's is not a well-understood pathology which can contribute to misdiagnosis, even with the diagnostic criteria available. Good point!
@ChaiLatte1311 ай бұрын
For my other health problems I've been told to eat extra salt and to add salt on everything. Oh man this is going to be a nightmare to figure out. lol
@VestibularFirst11 ай бұрын
yes, it can be a challenge. Hope you have good doctor support to guide you!
@juliejames917 Жыл бұрын
I suffered for two years with this. 15 years if I’m looking back at things. Two years before it surfaced to the point I had a break down . Isolated. Etc. I told my optometrist I had vertigo and asked if I was related possibly to my eyes. He said not likely. Told me I had astigmatism and sent me off with a new script. Those glasses worsened my problem which I had such a hard time describing. Went back to him and he dug in. I have vertical misalignment. Sent me to see Tina Rutar who confirmed it. Two weeks into my prisms and after seeing her for a second time, I am still dizzy. Not nearly as bad as before. Headaches are gone. Eye fatigue is still present. My anxiety is off the charts still. My pcp recommended L-theanine for the anxiety. It has been a game changer. Until you get me into a store with bright lighting and packed full of people. I would love to go vision therapy. Our insurance won’t cover any of it. It’s way too expensive. So instead I feel like these glasses which I hate wearing, are a crutch. I want to fix this. Not make it worse. I guess my problem isn’t bad enough for surgery. Poor quality of life doesn’t qualify me. It’s so tragic. The medical system we have to endure is just so broken. My question is this. Why not check for this in all exams? Especially if someone complains of a definite change in vision. Why do we have to go through all this to get to this test? Why do some eye doctors not know anything about this? People are suffering with mental health issues because of this. I thought mental health was the topic of the day in the country? Unless you are truly suffering I guess.
@VestibularFirst Жыл бұрын
Just an update: Johns Hopkins will have another awesome hybrid vestibular course in 2024. Online course will open Mar 1 and close Nov 30 in 2024. In person competency instruction and testing is FRIDAY Sept 13 afternoon to Sunday Sept 15 afternoon at Johns Hopkins. Follow @hopkinsrehabtherapy on Instagram or watch medicine.learnmore.jhu.edu/ for updates - they will post the ability to register soon!
@teresacheers8273 Жыл бұрын
Your guests were very professional and informative. Your uncomfortable giggling is just weird.
@juliejames917 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you are the weird one. Rude for sure.
@VestibularFirst9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. We always try to improve.
@eternityrps8651 Жыл бұрын
Un test vemps diminué d une oreille, test otolitique. Ca peut venir des cervicales ?
@VestibularFirst9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your question. I apologize since my first language is not Spanish, but I think you are asking if the cervical VEMP test can help diagnose cervicogenic dizziness. My understanding of the cervical VEMP test is assessing the function of the saccule, one of the otolith organs of the vestibular system. "The cVEMP test is believed to assess saccular vestibular signals carried via the vestibulospinal tract." So it is not assessing if joint position sense or proprioception in the neck is impaired. This is why we usually use tests such as cervical joint position error test to assess neck proprioception instead. You can learn more at our cervicogenic dizziness Journal Club here: kzbin.infoOoTr3UjFfAs?si=YTbZUliiFgOekKva
@fabiocusato3362 Жыл бұрын
apologize but I write with the translator. Which doctor or center in Italy is able to diagnose it. I have dizziness, left artery stenosis when I rotate my neck to the right, blurred vision and other symptoms. I have been around for 12 years but the doctors cannot understand my problem. The cause is a head injury.
@VestibularFirst9 ай бұрын
I believe that Dr. Luigi Califano at the Unit of Audiology and Phoniatrics, ENT Clinic, "G. Rummo" Hospital, Benevento, Italy, [email protected] can help you, or they should be able to recommend someone to you.
@jedheart8059 Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for the great information. It's helpful to know more and to be able to comprehend the intricate complexities of all the issues.
@vertigo1997 Жыл бұрын
Great Chanel, I’m able to come back and review some of these older videos that I missed.
@vertigo1997 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping us updated on all things vestibular migraine, it is definitely the most common type of patient I see in our outpatient clinic and BPPV has now dropped to no 2.
@JuanFrancisoDonosoHurtado Жыл бұрын
Great and deep scientific talk. Thanks!
@vertigo1997 Жыл бұрын
I see so many migraineurs that come in and present with either DB vertical nystagmus, dizziness is mild and resolves in seconds and they have persistent nystagmus with VFG fixation. Also, there is no crescendo and descendant of symptoms. The nystagmus is very low amplitude.
@VestibularFirst9 ай бұрын
Agree! It is good to consider the possibility of vestibular migraine once other more serious central vestibular issues have been ruled out. I see this often as well!
@vertigo1997 Жыл бұрын
Loves these literatura review series, thank you for keeping vestibular therapist on our toes!
@ΑλεξάνδραΨαρρά-υ9ο Жыл бұрын
Is Videonystagmography a test for diagnosing pppd?
@VestibularFirst9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your question! VNG is a helpful tool to rule out other causes of dizziness, but it cannot confirm a diagnosis of PPPD. This is why the use of PPPD diagnostic criteria is very important.
@meagangeorge1375 Жыл бұрын
How do you measure the degrees/second for the treatment if you do not have the higher tech equipment? Is there a way to convert this for speed that they can use at home?
@VestibularFirst9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your question! Other than a head-worn accelerometer, I am not aware of a way to promote a specific speed of head movements other than by the use of a metronome, where the patient tries to move their head to the beat of the sound. Hope this helps!
@Mrodrigues2010 Жыл бұрын
OBRIGADO TKS
@jennyrexon3478 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This was a great talk and an area that gets overlooked or under addressed. I am glad to put a name to the magnocellular issues I have seen with patients but didn’t know what to call it. I find backwards walking (on FGA) frequently will flags in people displaying this issue.
@VestibularFirst Жыл бұрын
Good point! We look forward to the research growing in this area - our clinical observations often eventually get correlated, but it takes time. Thank you for joining us!
@amybaxter-il2ey Жыл бұрын
Thank you Helena and Dr. Bliss this was so informative. Excellent topic
@VestibularFirst Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback - we are glad you found it helpful!
@juliatruchsess1019 Жыл бұрын
That is awesome, so helpful for visualizing what's going on during maneuvers. If the speed of actual otoconia is anything like that of this simulator then all the Epley tutorials that say "wait 30 seconds" would seem to be way too fast to change positions.
@VestibularFirst Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! The best way during repositioning techniques to see if the otoconia is ready to proceed to the next step would be to use infrared video goggles and watch for the nystagmus to subside. This was actually one of the observations that John Epley made to prove that otoconia floating down into the canals were affecting the cupula until they came to rest.
@vertigo1997 Жыл бұрын
Great webcast, I always learn so much here, please keep doing these. I was at a course where Dr. Staubb from Mayo Clinic gave an hour lecture on PPPD, PTS can find him on KZbin. We need a team effort in treating these patients and the challenge with CBT , is sometimes they are 3 months out in accepting new patients.
@pollymoyer4791 Жыл бұрын
Edited to add that I've been allocated a @ tag/address/handle (or whatever it is) in this post that I don't use and I have no idea how to get rid of it. I would be grateful for a response to my comments when you have time but don't know if I will receive a notification if I get one. I am not very tech savvy when it comes to all this which puts me at a disadvantage regarding my access needs. Hi @Vestibular First and many thanks for this informative talk which I only just heard about via one of the VM groups. One of the key differences between MdDS and the symptoms of PPPD is that p/w MdDS (which I had on and off for many years) generally feel a reduction of symptoms (or complete relief from them) when we are re-exposed to passive motion (irrespective of any character traits or hormone status, as far as I can tell) whereas people with the symptoms associated with PPPD generally feel worse in motion. My concern about PPPD is that it is being over diagnosed in some clinics and MdDS is being under diagnosed and that in some cases people with MdDS have had their diagnoses changed to PPPD via re-issued clinical letters, without any further consultations taking place. In some instances it is being diagnosed before people even walk through the door, based on a previous episode of 'dizziness' alone. I really appreciate that Dr Goebel gives his patients literature about PPPD but am concerned that there was no patient representation in the FND Subtypes paper so hope he and other clinicians have raised their concerns about this. I agree that we need more debate since the PPPD researchers are now tweeting things along the lines of 'a broad or imperfect term is still more clear and useful than none, provided people understand it as such and are working to refine it' but I don't think this understanding is being clearly communicated to patients. It is unfortunate that the FND Society's approach to debate and patient engagement was, in my experience, very poor and I am also aware that Prof O'Leary has noted that FND ed is 'reckless' so the practice is 'reckless' too. Meanwhile Prof Kanaan's 'territorial expansion' commentary (which was published alongside the Subtypes paper) is now mostly behind a paywall but he kindly sent me the full document and, from the patient perspective, I have many concerns about it which need unpacking, preferably by patients and doctors together. A FAQ in the PPPD group I'm in (I don't have pppd but do have mild orthostatic intolerance which I think could easily be misdiagnosed as PPPD) is 'are there any eminent doctors from the various specialisms involved (eg neuro-otology, neurology, neural ophthalmology, psychiatry etc etc) who have accepted a pppd dx? If it's as common as everyone says it is, there must be at least one.' So, if you know of any, I'd be very grateful if you can let me know who they are. Meanwhile a paper that maybe should be circulated more widely (again, amongst patients and doctors) is this: www.qxmd.com/r/35481262
@VestibularFirst9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, for some reason I am just seeing this so thank you for your patience as well. I agree that MdDS and PPPD could be mistaken for each other, and the diagnosis and treatment of each can be challenging. I am familiar with the otolith dysfunction paper for which you kindly provided the link, but my understanding is that other researchers will need to replicate this work before it is more likely to be considered confirmed. I believe your main question is: "are there any eminent doctors from the various specialisms involved (eg neuro-otology, neurology, neural ophthalmology, psychiatry etc etc) who have accepted a pppd dx? If it's as common as everyone says it is, there must be at least one." My answer would be: (1) Professor of Psychiatry Dr. Jeffrey Staab, at Mayo (www.mayo.edu/research/faculty/staab-jeffrey-p-m-d/bio-00026532); (2) Dr. David Herdman, PhD, vestibular rehab specialist at King's College London, and lead researcher for the ongoing INVEST trial (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35397754/#full-view-affiliation-1) (3) Dr. Deepak Rajenderkumar, ENT (otolaryngologist)/audiologist and his team at the Cardiff University lab in Wales, UK (cudizzylab.org/) (4) Dr. Stoyan Popkirov, neurologist and FND researcher at University Hospital Knappschaftskrankenhaus Bochum in Germany (www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0733861923000336?via%3Dihub) (5) Arata Horii, otorhinolaryngologist at Niigata University, Japan and the entire team who created the PPPD diagnostic criteria (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29036855/) I hope this is helpful to you, and thank you for your kind support!
@ricardov24502 жыл бұрын
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@freejazzbone2 жыл бұрын
very informative, thank you
@VestibularFirst2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful to you!
@condewit932 жыл бұрын
Great teaching tool.
@VestibularFirst2 жыл бұрын
Glad you find it helpful!
@condewit932 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the info on upright testing as there currently isn’t a great way to assess VBI. So, is there no combination of head movements? For example, neck rotation with slight extension? Or in these tests neck rotation with head roll (lat flex)? Should we add the shoulder abduction? Do you recommend a doppler at all or just DSA?
@VestibularFirst2 жыл бұрын
Great questions! Here is Dr. Schubert's reply: "There is no formal suggestion for how anyone should test in upright. But, replicating the Bow Hunter certainly seems like a good start as clinicians (neck rotation in yaw, shoulder abduction). The standard of care is digital subtraction angio." Thank you!
@KHansson2 жыл бұрын
Great lecture! Keep this up! :)
@VestibularFirst2 жыл бұрын
Will do! We love sharing ideas to improve vestibular care together.
@KHansson2 жыл бұрын
@@VestibularFirst Haven't seen all your videos so far, but it would be great to have one of vascular dizziness, I'm thinking the common carotid artery for example. But maybe you bring it up in your cervicogenic dizziness video. =)
@helenaesmonde55162 жыл бұрын
@@KHansson Great idea! We do cover it briefly in the cervicogenic dizziness journal club but could definitely benefit from a full hour discussion the topic. Thank you so much!
@guilhermediasrocha14532 жыл бұрын
Great class !! Congratulations!!
@VestibularFirst2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind support!
@pritijadiya34762 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another very helpful Journal club
@VestibularFirst2 жыл бұрын
It is our pleasure. Thank you for your wonderful support!
@thedizzybusypt2 жыл бұрын
I have had great success as well having patients video their eyes during spells at home. An outstanding tool for a variety of reasons. Great video!
@VestibularFirst2 жыл бұрын
Great point. Thank you Andy!
@thedizzybusypt2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding broadcast! Dr Goebel rocks! (Not in the otoconia way). Whenever I have patients with acute forms of vertigo, I work extra hard at providing good dizziness neuroscience education using analogies, stories, and motivational education. My goal is to prevent acute vertigo from becoming chronic. It would be interesting to study acute vertigo patients who may have tendencies toward 3PD comparing those who receive dizziness neuroscience education with those who do not receive it. I think we can learn from the chronic pain world and pain neuroscience education initiatives.
@VestibularFirst2 жыл бұрын
Yes! We were just at the American Academy of Otolaryngology conference and saw an awesome poster about a study using our Vestibular First design fluid-filled vestibular apparatus for patient education being seen at an outpatient otolaryngology clinic. Results showed improved symptom etiology understanding, reduced symptom-related anxiety, and increased likelihood to recommend the education session to a family member or friend compared to the control group who educated only with verbal education. Encouraging to see how improved patient education can improve patient anxiety!