I have now been officially inspired to become an apostle (even though that gift as ceased and I acknowledge that women pastors are not biblical)! 🤣🤣

Great program! I was fortunate to hear Dr. Weymeyer’s TES Super Seminar providing a critique of leading Amillenialist interpretations of Rev 20. It was on the Grace Immanuel Church website. I was going to recommend it to a friend, but when I looked for it again it appears not to be on the website any longer. Might you know where to find these audio lectures?

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Why is it that Dispensationalists so thoroughly misrepresent others' theology?

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Very well said - "the battleground is in hermeneutics". As Corey Marsh said, "Everything boils down to hermeneutics". Sounds like a conference on defending the historical-grammatical hermeneutic should be on the menu!

I do not think God ever cancelled any of His covenants. The “New” covenant is a “better” covenant in that it is now written on hearts of flesh, not on stone. It makes a “better” atonement, in that whereas the Old could only atone for UNINTENTIONAL sins, the New can atone for ALL sins. I’m sure you theologically minded folks can write whole books on the “new improved” covenant that fit your theology, but I wouldn’t be able to understand them. The Old Covenant was only made with descendants of Abraham through Isaac AND with any Gentiles who identified with and joined themselves to those descendants (the mixed multitude that came out of Egypt obviously contained more Gentiles than 14:31 blood descendants of Abraham, if you do the obvious math.) The New was extended to ALL who would love God and keep His commandments (Rev. 14:12). (The Catholic Church and many of their Protestant daughters say you must break the commandments to prove you love God- they actually put people to death in times past for obeying the commandments.) So I wouldn’t say the Old was cancelled, I would say that it was Renewed with many amazing improvements added. I have no idea whether my take on all that makes me Reformed, Deformed or Conformed. I have been asked over the years which camp I’m in. My answer has always been that I think I’m in both camps. Both have things I agree with, both have things I disagree with. When in doubt, I always refer to my Bible. It adds a lot of clarity.

For me the Key to understanding the number 666 is it is symbolic and has to do with the scientific make up of the Human Body and the Atom from which the Human Body is Made. The 4 foundations of every Human Being is contained in theses 4 Atom's which are the Hydrogen atom of 1 proton and 1 neutron and 1 electron the first and most important Atom that continues to divide to make up the complete 8 stages of the Human being. Question where does the 666 Atom come into play which is the Carbon Atom of which all Physical Matter contains? Answer = on the 6 stage of the Biology of the Human Body and for completion to take place as to the perfect complete Human being to be a reality you must also have Nitrogen = 777 and Oxygen = 888 and that is why the number 8 is so important in Bible number Symbolism. Knowing this and reading what Paul wrote in 1st Thessalonians 5:23 things for me become clear what the number 666 stands for. The Anti Christ Man is only focused on the Carbon Outer World and has no interest in Spiritual Things. When you know your Human Biology and the Atom that makes up you'r whole Body, Soul = mental mind and Spirit you find both the Bible and Science are in perfect balance. As all the Ancient Sages have taught in order to know your Creator you must fist and for most KNOW YOURSELF and how fearfully and wonderfully are made. AMEN P.S. Spell Anatomy and break the word down As AN - ATOM - ME and thing about the possibility the Adam and Eve Story is about the Splitting of the ATOM in order to make molecules that split to make Cells that split that become tissue that makes organs that become the Human Organism body in 6 stages and the only two things remaining for completeness is the breath of Divine Consciousness for the Soul Mind to be able to reason and on the 8 stage the Spiritual Breath or Spirit of Divine life called Christ Consciousness. From 666 Carbon Man to 777 a Soul mind able to Reason and last 888 the Holy Spirit Anointing of Divine Consciousness the process of growing into a perfect MAN of God. 1st Cor. 13: 8-13 Think you for allowing me to comment.

Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below? Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9. If the New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20 and the Old Covenant is "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13, why would any Christian believe God is going back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? ======= Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the word “remnant” in Romans 9:27, with the word “nation”? 6. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 7. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 8. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 9. Based on Hebrews 12:18-24, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 10. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 11. Watch the KZbin video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.

That point about the allusion of Jeremiah to Noah's covenant is amazing!...I'm wondering now why doesn't covenant theology mention the covenant with Phineas as part of their "overarching covenant of grace" as an important covenant? Of all the readings I've done about CT, and they're quite a few, I can't recall anyone dealing with the priestly covenant in an extended or profound manner. Perhaps they see Jesus as the ultimate priest who is the fulfillment of that covenant? 🤔

Interesting... Jesus and Christian teach different things.

Nope, Washington was a anti-Christian, Freemason. How pretended to be Christian to fool other Christians to support him in revolution.

I hold to covenant theology and confused as to why “literalistic” is always the most faithful interpretation.

I really enjoyed the conference this year and I loved this episode highlighting the conference. I agree that it would have been helpful to have traditional and progressive dispensationalists, maybe on a panel to discuss their differences. (Perhaps a good podcast for you to do). Always a great time at the conference and can't wait for next year. Love your podcast! Thanks Dr. Goeman.

Yeshoua spoke Hebrew, not aramaic, on the cross. Check Hebrew Gospels website

Dispensationalism is the worst theology that ever happened to Christianity since the Nicene Creed. Horrific division of the Church after almost 2000 years , almost satanic driven theology without a doubt. The way it exalts the defying Jews who crucified Jesus Christ the king of kings is ruling over this theology , I ve always wondered how God will deal with it come judgement day. Christian Zionism is so evil, it justifies Satanic Israel murdering 100,'s of 1000's of Palestinian children for 77 years of massacre while they cry out against abortion. God help your Church and rid of this cancer I call Dispensationalism.

Both texts and actions can have multiple legitimate meanings. Gen 50:20 The original "author" of a text can have a legitimate meaning while God also has a legitimate meaning. God intends both meanings to be present. Edit: God can even have multiple meanings as the ultimate author of the text. Example: Leviticus 18:5 and Romans 10:5 A reformed understanding of salvation and of meticulous providence in general should make this easy to accept. "Compatibilism" applies both to life and to The Text.

Excellent!

1 Samuel 17:23 KJV And as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David heard them. He most certainly was. You are openly rejecting the plain words of scripture. 1 Samuel 21:9 KJV And the priest said, The sword of Goliath the Philistine, whom thou slewest in the valley of Elah, behold, it is here wrapped in a cloth behind the ephod: if thou wilt take that, take it: for there is no other save that here. And David said, There is none like that; give it me.

What about his comment he just made on women are pigs with nose earrings 😢

I was just thinking about how I wasn’t aware of any books written on the Trinity by a reputable dispensationalist. And I just heard about the Active Obedience of Christ so Jesse Randolph was checking all the boxes haha I love that what started as an elevator pitch to convince the Covenant theologian of the errors of CT ends up as a “your life depends on this” scenario 😂 I know I appreciate your time and effort putting this all together so thank you for it! I can’t wait to see these sessions!

Hey Dr. Goeman! Don’t know if this is better suited for an email… I’m on staff with a couple Progressive Covenantalists (amill) guys and we are reading through Ezekiel together - so you know that’s been fun! They don’t claim to be full replacement theologians. Do you have any helpful resources on a healthy conversation regarding progressive covenantalism? I just picked up Waymeyer’s Amil book that you recommended - so thank you for that!

0:43 “God made promises and then chose not to keep those promises”. Covenant theology does not teach that! That is a straw man that dispensationalists continue to use. “43 Thus the Lord gave to Israel all the land that he swore to give to their fathers. And they took possession of it, and they settled there.44 And the Lord gave them rest on every side just as he had sworn to their fathers. Not one of all their enemies had withstood them, for the Lord had given all their enemies into their hands. 45 Not one word of all the good promises that the Lord had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass.” Josh 21:43-45 “21 You brought your people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs and wonders, with a strong hand and outstretched arm, and with great terror. 22 And you gave them this land, which you swore to their fathers to give them, a land flowing with milk and honey. 23 And they entered and took possession of it. But they did not obey your voice or walk in your law. They did nothing of all you commanded them to do. Therefore you have made all this disaster come upon them.” Jer 32:21-23 “20 Judah and Israel were as many as the sand by the sea. They ate and drank and were happy. 21 Solomon ruled over all the kingdoms from the Euphrates to the land of the Philistines and to the border of Egypt. They brought tribute and served Solomon all the days of his life.“ 1 Kings 4:20-21 56 “Blessed be the Lord who has given rest to his people Israel, according to all that he promised. Not one word has failed of all his good promise, which he spoke by Moses his servant.” 1 Kings 8:56 8 You found his heart faithful before you, and made with him the covenant to give to his offspring the land of the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Amorite, the Perizzite, the Jebusite, and the Girgashite. And you have kept your promise, for you are righteous.” Nehemiah 9:8 42 For he remembered his holy promise, and Abraham, his servant. 43 So he brought his people out with joy, his chosen ones with singing. 44 And he gave them the lands of the nations, and they took possession of the fruit of the peoples’ toil, 45 that they might keep his statutes and observe his laws. Praise the LORD!” Psalm 105:42-45 19 And after destroying seven nations in the land of Canaan, he gave them their land as an inheritance.” Acts 13:19 “ 32 And we bring you the good news that what God promised to the fathers, 33 this he has fulfilled to us their children by raising Jesus, as also it is written in the second Psalm, “‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you.’ Acts 13:32-33

Peter's " yeah, that's helpful" count on this video: about 8😂. Great video, I did not know some of the brothers you interviewed and I look forward to hearing the recordings.

Thank goodness for loving old hymns. My first thought about this subject came in a tune, "Yesterday today forever Jesus is the same, all may change but Jesus never, glory to his name.... I did more digging on this and copied below from another site: Then, the author reminds us, “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever” (Hebrews 13:8 NIV). The original Greek in which this book was written uses the word autos, which is used for “self,” for he/she/it, all the same, much like the ultimate definition of one’s personal state of being or essence. When the author used Jesus and autos in conjunction with the rest of the verse-echthes (yesterday), then sémeron (today, now) and aión (an age or space of time stretching as far into eternity)-he was essentially saying Jesus’ full state of being applies to always. He is unchanging and endless, beyond time.

In the interest of fairness and balance you should ask the Covenanter the same elevator question.

Thank you. Yes, I found this episode to be very enjoyable and encouraging. I, like you, are looking forward to reading the presentation of the Active Obedience of Christ. I do hold to it as I hold to Covenant Theology but am a Premillenialist with a belief in a literal fulfillment of the promises of God to the nation of Israel. I did not know, if I understood you correctly, as you shared, that the belief of the Active Obedience of Christ is held by some dispensationalists. Is this the same as holding to a belief in the Imputation of the Active Obedience of Christ? I have read that some who hold to the Active Obedience of Christ believe it is necessary to understand how Christ in His human nature "qualified " Himself to be the Perfect Sacrifice. These proponents do not believe this Active Obedience is imputed to believers. (I do not believe that the Scriptures teach that Christ had to qualify Himself to be our Perfect Savior. I believe His sufferings and death paid the penalty for believers's sins, and that His Sinless Life of Perfect Obedience is imputed to those believers). I am hoping this paper may address this as well. Thank you again for posting those interviews. God bless you.

I've been in the Kingdom of God for 52 years now. Colossians 1:12-13 MEV *_giving thanks to the Father,_* who has enabled us to be partakers in the inheritance of the saints in light. [13] He has delivered us from the power of darkness and *_has transferred us into the kingdom of His dear Son,_*

Jesus answered them, "Destroy this sanctuary, and in three days I will raise it up." The Jews then said, "It took forty-six years to build this sanctuary, and will you raise it up in three days?" But he was speaking about the sanctuary of his body. The Pharisees had a "slavish commitment to literal hermeneutics." Nobody is immune to the distortion of reading the Bible through their own biases. If you said, "we are biased," you would have no guilt. But since you said, "we have no bias," your guilt remains.

Joel is a reformed Calvinist. His chosen deity decreed for him to be this way. Diligent application matters.

How about an episode contrasting classic dispensationalism and progressive dispensationalism.

Please show me the command in scripture where we must “protect” God’s character. God protects His own character by saying “who are you oh man?” “Protecting” God’s character leads to terrible hermeneutics because you fear the text and refuse to let God’s word say what it says.

Covenant theology is completely false that's what the Bible teaches.

Is Irwin Lutzer in the Traditional camp or Progressive camp?

Please put a link on your KZbin channel when the conference sessions are available!

It is intriguing to note that all interviewees essentially shared similar views, specifically regarding hermeneutics when posed with the elevator question. Thank you for this special episode, Prof.

Peter, do you think that the Reformed camp is trying to express that the Church is 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭/𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤 Israel? Or do you think we are saying that the Church is 𝘤𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 the people of God and consequently can be rightly called the (spiritual) Israel of God in the same way we can be called a temple, priests, living sacrifices etc?

My belief is that one should always seek truth and there can only be one truth. The Bible is the infallible breathed word of God. Man is fallible. Even well intended men are susceptible to the machinations of the evil one whom is tirelessly working to obfuscate God's Truth. I disagree with you. My disagreement is based on scripture and my interpretation of it in it's true and more complete context. Example: You bring up Deuteronomy 10:22. In so doing you misrepresent God's truth by omitting what is written leading up to verse 22 and what is written past it. Doing so clearly shows how God's Covenant with Israel were CONDITIONAL and not unconditional. This is true for all of God's covenants. I implore out and anyone else seeking God's Truth to go through every covenant and carefully read and study them. They will find that all were Conditional. Lastly, for over 1800 yrs, the Church understood this to be true. It understood that all of God's promises have fulfilled as required. In the 1880's Darby in England and Scofield in the U.S. introduced and institutionalized Dispensationalism within the modern church. Today we have Zionist Christians which is an oxymoron. Christians must study the word and church history. We have manipulated by the enemy to misunderstanding God's Truth. God blues you and anyone reading this message.

God fulfilling promises is an afront to JC? hmmm

It's an absolute twisting of scripture to make the church Israel. It's a poisonous concept

Someone needs to research this being to unearth just how many females he's sexually abused. A real vessel and mouthpiece for the fallen one if ever we've heard one.

As a student of Scripture for many years studying with Dr Walvrood Dr Lightner Tommy Ice Dr Couch etc you are a breath of fresh air in this blogosphere of Amill and Postmill saturation as of late. Keep up the good work. Your articulation and the ability to speak truthfully and not allowing emotions rule your thought process is a breath of fresh air

When the plain sense makes sense seek no other sense or you’ll come up with nonsense

It is so nice to have someone who lets the Word of God speak without spiritualizing the Text or grasping at straws to squeeze the text into their self defined religious box. Keep up the good work and God speed. Thanks

Hi again Perter and as always very informative. I really would like to get your Email address as I have a few topic's I would like to "sharpen iron with you. The first one would be the topic on "Divine" space once established on earth, it's loss, accompanied with how the crucifixion of "Christ" made atonement for "world sin" also." WOW !! - What a discussion...

didache is not talking about immersion (and no, baptizo does not "mean immersion") it's talking about the kind of water used... living water was preferred

Thanks for this episode I really enjoyed

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