I like the version with fixed gears on the wheels, in a bigger version, maybe the gears could spin with the change in wheel size to still be engaged with the belt but allow the gears to roll along the gear whilst the wheels change size if that makes sense
@verebellus2 сағат бұрын
isn't CVT what's used in snowmobiles?
@AminalCreacher3 сағат бұрын
Great concept and execution, the automatic version is especially clever. My only concern is that, since the clips necessarily grab the chain in discrete intervals, this transmission does not appear to truly be continuously variable. Unfortunately a truly continuously variable transmission that does not rely on a friction drive (belt drive, pivoting rollers) is a bit of an unsolved problem in mechanical engineering.
@MazeFrame3 сағат бұрын
Amazing concept, the variable size wheels are genius by themselves.
@althejazzman3 сағат бұрын
A massive improvement on your previous CVT design, and I also can't wait to see this in a car.
@prozacgod4 сағат бұрын
The expanding section reminds me of my toy truck from the 80's "The Animal" watch?v=Afofc_Jt86s
@prozacgod4 сағат бұрын
The expanding section reminds me of my toy truck from the 80's "The Animal" kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5fSl5aVf9lrbNU
@prozacgod3 сағат бұрын
It would only expand its claws under torque.
@_xome4ok_3487 сағат бұрын
hallelujah, the rial CVT works EXACTLY like that ( 10:25 )
@YR01178 сағат бұрын
One thing I always wonder when I see a Lego transmission where friction or tension are used to gauge output resistance: is the torque gain from changing ratios greater than the overall power loss from the friction/tension in the resistance measurement? And if so, by how much? Genuinely don’t know. I’m as far from an engineer you can get, but I love Lego technic. Regardless of how efficient this design ultimately is, it’s incredibly clever and undeniably solves the belt slip issue with the classic cone style CVT. Great work on the variable size wheel design, it’s brilliant!
@BobTitkemeier10 сағат бұрын
One idea for a car it to try to put 2 of these in series giving more torque and greater spead ranges! Excellent work!
@AG7-MTM10 сағат бұрын
You should try building a lego car that uses this CVT to really show off the capabilities of this machine
@kameramann782412 сағат бұрын
This is so cool!
@NNIIKK5512 сағат бұрын
As soon as I saw the new system I immediately remembered Veer Shift Drive. It's very similar)
@isaacmurray849012 сағат бұрын
Lego now offers the slip gear, white boxy gears with a light grey axle collar in the center. These are useful for bypassing systems of extreme torque backlash, like, say, when the escapement is stuck for a second because that’s how it works. Because they escapement works by creating a brief moment of very high torque then releasing said torque, using a slip gear as an input point and a solid gear as the connection between the two, you can use a motor to power a chain which could be an infinite escapement force that never needs wound.
@krishrox101513 сағат бұрын
there is a cvt type like this although usually it uses a rubber belt, one side has fixed diameter and the other uses wheels on the end, it also uses hydraulic/pneumatics for expansion. your design is very cool with counter changing diameters for drive and driven giving a wider gear ratio change, although due to the size of lego pieces, this is slightly limited and is probably very hard to make smaller for lego cars. it will be cool to see that comes of this design in the future
@LutzThumm15 сағат бұрын
about why the wider rubberband didnt improve as much as hoped: the formula to describe friction does not include the area of contact but instead the friction force f is calculated by multiplying the normal force N with the friction coefficiant μ between the two surfaces: f = N * μ this does not include the area of contact
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Yeah, that's a good point. I know that formula well but I kind of just intuitively assumed that a wider belt would mean more friction :)
@founder824016 сағат бұрын
This is such a beautiful mechanism
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Thank you!
@guard1300718 сағат бұрын
The Schmitt linkage (or however its spelled / named sorry memory bad) made me so excited cause I've watched so many "simple mechanisms" / "simple machines" in Lego videos and they always demonstrate the concept, but never show an application of it (which, to be fair, isn't the point on those videos) and I'm just so excited to finally see someone using them practically!
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
That's really nice to hear, I'm glad you liked it!
@Alexander.067119 сағат бұрын
Better then a Nissan CVT
@ete986919 сағат бұрын
This channel is soo under-rated!!!
@anthonymuccillo20 сағат бұрын
I think a lot of the problem is not the lack of friction but the stretch of the rubber bands. If you had a belt that had something to keep it contracted it would work far better as the side load of the torque transfer tightens the belt and makes it tensioned against the variable cones.
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
That's a good point, though making the belt tighter might also increase the amount of friction in the CVT.
@Lockbane21 сағат бұрын
If you were willing to sacrifice the cones to live forever for a CVT, you could dip them in liquid rubber. Rubber on rubber is friction city. I think the auto CVT would need to live within a specific RPM range or the centrifugal forces will counter those bands.
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
That's a cool idea!
@bartybum22 сағат бұрын
I'm amazed at the simplicity of the chain drive automation, but as it stands the gear ratio is currently quite small. I'd be very interested to see a follow-up video that puts two of these stages in series, to see if you can automatically cover a much larger range of reduction speeds.
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Thanks! That's a great idea! I actually did a staged automatic transmission like that in the automatic gearbox I made last year to increase the range of gear ratios like you said (though overall that mechanism isn't great compared to this one). I've already got a lot of ideas with this CVT for the next video, but this staged transmission idea could be worth me making a third video on this!
@Trek_Rail22 сағат бұрын
Whoa. Expandable dorito. Braaaaap! Rotary owners be like….. Very cool. Good job
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@Mrqwerty210922 сағат бұрын
This is better than what's in my hyundai
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Haha!
@ethanebang890222 сағат бұрын
This man just solved the CVT problem in automobiles…
@BobTitkemeier10 сағат бұрын
Perhaps, but at high torque chains wear and break, we will need an easily accessible gear case to make changing/servicing the chain easy.
@benrboss22 сағат бұрын
The wider belt didn’t do anything because contact area has nothing to do with friction
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Yeah, that's a good point. I kind of just intuitively assumed that a wider belt would mean more friction :)
@benrboss8 сағат бұрын
Yeah its wierd like that but increasing the roughness should’ve made it better
@windydaysbb23 сағат бұрын
I seriously expected this channel to be at around a million subscribers like the other technic channels. But this lad is better for giving voiceovers. Keep it up!
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Thank you! I'm really glad you like the style of the videos.
@windydaysbb12 сағат бұрын
@@BananaGearStudios ofcourse! I went and watched almost every other video you posted 😅😅
@Dorito_OverLord_Music23 сағат бұрын
idc about the legos his voices is so calming
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Thanks, that's really kind of you.
@Dorito_OverLord_Music12 сағат бұрын
@@BananaGearStudios tbh i almost fell asleep, your voice is so calm i love it
@wowgggearing23 сағат бұрын
next: use CVT & differential. make the output spin 0rpm in gear & the engine is runnning
@stratos223 сағат бұрын
That is such a cool invention! I think if this was made out of metal with many more circle segments it could actually viable for a car
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Thank you!
@cmsracing23 сағат бұрын
Dud, you are so smart it is scary.
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Haha thanks, you're too kind.
@bariumselenided5152Күн бұрын
Watching these makes me feel the same as watching a Ben Eater video
@manganeseheptoxide7825Күн бұрын
Very elegant device
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@luppanoКүн бұрын
The automatic CVT blew my mind
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
Haha, thank you!
@jilesmahonyКүн бұрын
Love the videos So much better with you talking
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Thank you! That's great to hear, I enjoy making them this way a lot more as well.
@johnydlКүн бұрын
what's the flutter like on the output gear? given the gearing is effectively triangular won't the output speed vary over the course of a rotation, doubly so with the continuously variable design and having inconsistent alignment?
@BananaGearStudios14 сағат бұрын
I'm sure there's a bit of variance in the output's speed, but it wasn't all that noticable while I was testing or filming it. Once I put it in a car I'm sure any variations will become more apparent, but I'd say they shouldn't be too bad since the wheels are shaped like very rounded triangles rather than straight triangles.
@Pancada1223Күн бұрын
This is really cool! I love the design of the wheels with the variable diameter : )
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@RJMBricksКүн бұрын
Love the videos man!
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
@pmarprj2108Күн бұрын
in a realistic application you probably want it to always to default to the shorter ratio, that way you aren't stalling your input instantly, I know the belt drive CVTs for small displacement engines work like that, using centrifugal force to actuate them
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Yeah, I'd say that for any high-torque applications, like starting off a car from rest, the automatic transmission will go to the highest gear ratio at first, and then gradually lower the gear ratio as the car builds up speed.
@pinecubesКүн бұрын
thats so cool!! you make the mechanics seem so approachable and you explain stuff really well. great builds :)
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!
@antoniozhang6055Күн бұрын
You are so clever. Indeed the best lego transmisión i have ever seen
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
@BubbleBotBuildsКүн бұрын
This is a solid build, probably the most impressive lego transmission I've seen!
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Thank you!
@quinnobi42Күн бұрын
I've seen a number of Lego CVTs/automatic transmissions and this is the first time I've seen someone use variable diameter wheels. I suppose there will be some irregularities in the output speed, similar to what you get with a universal joint. I'm definitely interested to see if it works in practice in a vehicle or something. It would be interesting to see if it will go to the highest mechanical advantage on acceleration from a stop of a heavier vehicle.
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Thank you! Yep, putting it in a car and using it to accelerate some heavy vehicles is exactly what I've got planned for the next video.
@Edward-wk9su10 сағат бұрын
That will bee amazing
@frogsshadow41899 сағат бұрын
@@BananaGearStudios you could try using 2 of these side by side but offset 180⁰ to help smooth the output
@YR01178 сағат бұрын
@@BananaGearStudiosawesome can’t wait to see that
@deadcat7026Күн бұрын
underrated af!
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@keyreoyun7646Күн бұрын
I wish I could whach this but I have homework 😢
@lunabell-2Күн бұрын
don't worry, i'll watch it for you
@keyreoyun7646Күн бұрын
@@lunabell-2 thank you bro
@lunabell-2Күн бұрын
@@keyreoyun7646 i gotchu fam
@krankercreeper4510Күн бұрын
Hi
@keyreoyun7646Күн бұрын
@@krankercreeper4510 hello
@BananaGearStudios15 сағат бұрын
Hi!
@keyreoyun7646Күн бұрын
First (sorry couldn't resist)
@nexa45242 күн бұрын
20:31 - 20:41,Didn't get it, pls explain.
@BananaGearStudios2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. The graph is showing the distance that the motor moves against time. Since speed is calculated as distance divided by time, the speed of the motor is shown by the gradient (slope) of the graph. What I explained was how you could approximately calculate the gradient of the graph at many different points over the 10 second sampling time - if you plot this gradient against time it gives you a graph of the motor's speed. Hope that helps.
@nexa45242 күн бұрын
@@BananaGearStudios Thanks for replying.Yes, it definitely helped me, I was not the getting the plotting of gradient.