*Leans towards Wacky Workbench, Dragon Road AND Asteroid Coaster as I'm praying before he mentions This guy gets me

I don't understand why the developers didn’t buff Super Sonic ring depletion for both Classic and Modern for the remaster. It's a very simple change. Because of this, using Super Sonic feels more taxing than a reward. Especially for Classic. We should make it noticeable on Twitter to them so they can buff it in a future update.

Your voice is annoying.

You’re only 9??? Screw you

Super Sonic is always hype

I just wanted to say with the story heavy games I wouldn’t call ‘‘em plot devices more so narrative devices as they serve bigger role to the character and overarching stories than just being a power up, especially when you relate them to their purpose and description of “turning thoughts into power, responding to needs and wants if the user, and making miracles with all seven.” Honestly this is biggest reason the introduction of super sonic 2 and cyber sonic in the final horizon dlc for frontiers suck to me because super sonic as concept just became nothing but a plot device in the most literal term with it being so disconnected from the actual story

my love for super sonic died in the 2000s (i'm not kidding). after unleashed i was pretty bored of the form and wanted hyper sonic back. i still want hyper sonic

Another exposing that was necessary Based and eggpilled

I have a bunch of ideas for alternate levels. Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Stardust Speedway and Sky Sanctuary are great additions. wouldn't change any of them. but if I had to, I'd go with Star Light, Hill Top, Quartz Quadrant, and Flying Battery. (ideal scenario is that the defaults stay where they are.) Twinkle Park is also a great choice to replace Speed Highway, but an alternate could be the Adventure version of Ice Cap. solves the copyrighted music problem, and both Classic and Modern still get to have their snowboarding segment. City Escape? perfect choice. but if it was required to replace it, Metal Harbour in my opinion should take the spot. (and maybe it could have a mid-level transition into Green Forest, since they both take place on Prison Island?) Now, it doesn't seem very fair that the Classic era gets four stages while the Dreamcast era only gets three. so lets add in Music Plant, from Sonic Advance 2. and for the Heroes stage: Grand Metropolis, which I think would be a super cool stage to see return. (the remix would go insanely hard.) either that, or Casino Park. and for the Modern Era, lets go with Water Palace, Kingdom Valley (or Radical Train, maybe) followed by, ideally, Rooftop Run. but if forced to choose a different stage, I think Dragon Road is a great pick. for the Colors level, I think Starlight Carnival would be a great choice. running along those Rainbow Road style pathways between the armada of Egg Cruise ships would be amazing in HD. And surprise! a final era before the time eater: the Eggman era. boasting three classic levels, and three modern ones, each taking you through a final level themed around everyone's favorite egotistical scientist. (besides Dr. Wily.) first, Classic would go through the Death Egg. the most iconic Eggman base. you know it, you probably love it. and then Modern would race through Final Egg from Adventure, followed by Classic zooming through Egg Fleet from Heroes, then Modern going through Dead Line from Rush, then Classic in Aquatic Base from 06, followed by Modern would tearing through Eggmanland from Unleashed. and, final idea: each of the three first eras would have a bossfight in the middle, and at the end of the eras. the classic era would have Classic Sonic face Metal Sonic and the Death Egg Robot, with the Dreamcast having Modern battle Shadow and Perfect Chaos. the modern fight would ax Silver's battle, and instead have Classic fight the Egg King from Rush, with Modern still fighting the Egg Dragoon.

2:21 Basically the same thing with Kart Racers where every Kart Racer that isn't Mario, gets instantly called a Mario Kart Clone.

8:06 free riders and Chronicles

6:44 It's actually easy, final boss phase 2 guide Avatar at the beginning gives three hits or 2 Gives a normal blow Use ballet to give the last two blows or all three if the avatar didn't give all three And you defeated phase 2

Its ain't bad, it is overused and just needs a break!

I agree with you wholeheartedly about most the things you said, but Super Sonic in Sonic Frontiers made it rewarding to turn Super Sonic.

Super Sonic is so insane in Frontiers, he throws wyvern around the island like a shit box split Knight in half hits the end so much he can barely see him, it's satisfying

to be fair to sega they'd been trying to bring him back within the 2000s but the stars never seemed to align for them, in sonic adventure 1 there are cut voice lines from tikal telling the player how to activate super sonic in regular levels , in sonic 06 the " Rainbow Gem " was going to allow the player to transform but because sonic 06 was rushed in the actual game it's useless and i'm sure there's probably been other attempts in games from that era we don't even know about especially given how much he's used in side-games ( unlockable character in riders & zero gravity, that one dumbass tennis game, etc ) , I think sonic colours was probably just the first time they were able to get around to him in time.

18:50 you thought you were slick, you think I wouldn't notice the sonic unleashed werehog music in the background? you know damn well the music is peak when many youtubers even non sonic channels use the soundtrack in the background. (man I hate the sonic community for what they did to my favourite sonic game, they're the reason it didn't get a pc port BUT COLOURS DID SOMEHOW)

You know what? I agree with a lot of this. And now... you've inspired me to tear apart the Frontiers version of Super Sonic because I REALLY don't like what they did with him there.

Next video : super saiyans downfall.

Super Sonic is like this: Is in the story, its fun. Isn't in the story, why are you even here?

I really wish Frontiers would have let you use Super Sonic on the islands that you had completed during the story mode. I mean, they literally show all seven chaos emeralds on the map. Super Sonic was already a planned feature in SA1, we even have a voiceline for it. I don't remember why it was removed exactly, but it's a neat fun fact ig.

What a stupid thing to say .

Most sane Italian

In the ds version of Sonic colors and Sonic lost world, it handle Super better. Colors doesn't have Super in stages but has a secret boss with it. And Super in the ds version of lost world Super feel very fast compare to base Sonic and jump much higher

0:39 sonic 4 and mania ???

Unironically, i didn't like modern Super sonic in generations at all precisely because of the speed, or rather the fact that Super sonic literally just skips the entire stage as he flies above everything completely eliminating any and all gameplay. Modern Super sonic in gens is pretty much press boost to win.

My interest in Super Sonic died ever since he was locked behind DLC. In fact my interest in the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise died down thanks to Sonic Forces mega Disappointment. However My interest in Super Sonic was revived thanks to the Titan Duels in Sonic Frontiers.

No fucking way: Caprezza internazionale

Tbh, I never thought Superstars was bad. I liked it. The OST was actually pretty good. I like the genesis eusqe vibe. The vibe is very inconsistent, but the individual tracks are really good.

Just started the video but I think you might talk about frontiers at the end

Funny how kingdom vally does now kinda exist in sonic generations

But what about the boost?

Frontiers made me feel hype that I haven’t felt for Super Sonic in years. And I absolutely enjoyed playing as him

Now probably a good time to bring in Hyper Sonic.

Tho Shadow doesn't go super in Shadow Gens, Doom Wing is basically a super form in that game and I kinda like how it works.

We need more story times!

Am I the only one who feels like you *could* play as Super Sonic in Sonic Heroes if you A-Ranked every stage?

Super Sonic in frontiers felt like a nothing sandwich. Mainly because Super Sonic is the REWARD for the player which is not just plotlines. In the classic sonic games you're rewarded with Super Sonic for going the extra mile of finding the special stages instead of just going through the levels asap. And it still felt like that in later titles like Adventure 1 to Unleashed. They still felt like you were building up to Super Sonic and the payoff felt AMAZING.

I think he's overused. I want to see hyper or a new form. Darkspine was so cool. Also I want super Knuckles and super Tails.

cough ciugh.frontiers

Fingers crossed we get a form past super soon. I know it sounds like DragonBall Z but still.

This is why frontiers is here !

My only hate towards him is that hes been used for so long my love for him has died down a lot these past few years

It wasn't bad, it wasn't good either. It eas just mid and very underwhelming.

I knew it was gonna start with Sonic Colors and here’s where generational differences come in for a lot of fans. Because the way Super Sonic was handled like the classic games instead was a nice change of pace that people liked. But I feel you. Generations had the best concept. Let him be in the final boss as an epic traditional finale and then unlock him to play in stages but make it worth it. I forgive Lost World because it didn’t seem to need it at the end. Forces seemed like a story that coulda used it and everything else surrounding its implementation into stages is as you said… worst offender. Frontiers I think was trying to shake things up continuing where we left off with what Adventure started, having it be a finale boss form only having a finale boss for multiple islands, surprising fans. I think having Super Sonic not show up at the end of every game also makes it less predictable as long as they still have it appear at the end of the story pretty often here and there.

Why is 2021 included? Forces came out in 2017.

Personally, I hated how previous games always used Super Sonic just for the final boss. The fights prior to Frontiers all played the same and it just got boring. The fights were all spectacle and no substance, and he no longer became a reward since he's just tied to story progression. The 2010s games (outside of Colors DS and Generations) not having Super Sonic fights was a breath of fresh air (even if Lost World and Forces just reused the Colors final boss) and they made Super Sonic a reward again outside of Forces. Frontiers made Super Sonic fights actually fun again, but I don't want that to be how every Sonic game handles Super Sonic to avoid it getting stale.

Just wanted to say that in the 3DS version of Lost World, Super Sonic is absolutely worth it and broken as he should.

Nearly every modern Sonic game’s design philosophy breaks down at the concept of Super Sonic and it’s why I hate automation and will always want and try to abolish automation as much as possible. In the classic games, Sonic was a character designed around the building and maintaining of your speed being the challenge of the game and the releasing of your speed in dynamic and progressively useful ways being the reward for skilful gameplay and replaying stages. Like going from first learning to ride a skateboard to becoming the next Tony Hawk and pulling off ridiculous stunts. Speed and invincibility power-ups are littered throughout every stage to give you advantages in different ways. Speed power-ups suddenly give you nearly uncontrollable speed without any changes to your jump height or the damage you take, making it difficult to use, think of the reaction-based and car-like boost gameplay in this instance. Invincibility power-ups meanwhile do what it says on the tin, and thus typically don’t prove incredibly useful. Super Sonic stands as the pinnacle reward for mastering the game by giving you not only the insane, car-like boost speed, but an increased jump and the invincibility needed to have fun while trying to control the character, only being held back by the consumption of rings. It’s like going from playing Skate 3 to Trackmania.

I think the best version was ironicly in shadow generations doom wings (I know it's not technicly a super form but mecanicly it just is) and not only does it has a role in the story, but it's also really fun to use in the levels