It sure is colorful! The Brimar 12AT7 in the phase inverter position really smooths out the lead channel.

How so?

@ your amplifiers need to be plugged into a cabinet with proper ohmage at all times, otherwise you need to connect them to a dummy load so that you don't destroy your output transformer.

@@HoldFastTheTruth That's why I was putting each amp on standby before switching.

@@northfortyrecords unfortunately the risk for damage still remains even on standby. If a tube amplifier is not connected to a speaker cabinet, it has nowhere to send the electrical energy it creates. Think of it like blowing air into a balloon but not giving the air a way to escape. The pressure builds up, and eventually, the balloon pops. In the amplifier, this “pressure” can damage important parts, especially the output transformer, which is like the amp’s bridge to the speaker. Without a speaker to take the energy, the amp can overheat or burn out parts. I just wouldn't do it with such a beautiful boutique amp!

@@HoldFastTheTruth Sorry, that's not correct. When a tube amp is in standby, there is no signal sent to the speakers and a load doesn't need to be present. Solid state amps are a different story and absolutely do need to see a load at all times. With solid state, the amp needs to see a nearly infinite ohm load, whereas tube amps need to see their required 16, 8, or 4 (closer to zero) ohm load. Furthermore, if there is no signal from a guitar to the amp's input, there is nothing to be amplified. So there is definitely no signal reaching the speaker out jack.

The EL84 powered reverb slot was swapped out (and circuitry) to add another two gain stages to the preamp signal. No reverb anymore on this amp.

Yes and it's crazy all 4 speakers fit within that smallish cabinet! I had plans to separate the 2 - 8 inch speakers from the amp signal and instead run a stereo FX signal through them, but I never got around to it and sold the amp.

@ good amp? Thinking about maybe getting one (1x12) blackface sound?

@@Shadytube2024 Excellent amp. Very straightforward design. If you're looking for Fender pristine clean to Fender fat/crunch, it's great. If you need more distortion, you'll need a channel switching amp or just use pedals. I think it's a really great gigging amp - where you can be loud with a drummer.

What do you mean by impedes? Do you mean anything that's not true bypass? I've always understood a buffer to mean a signal is restored or augmented to its original starting strength.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_buffer#:~:text=A%20digital%20buffer%20(or%20a,to%20avoid%20disturbing%20its%20signal.

I agree. The Weber is darker and grittier which works great for dirt and distortion, but I prefer the Jensen overall, myself.

Both amps are amazing!

Sure is! My cats were freaking out at that sound :)

You sure enjoy talking out of your a$$. Both amps are 40 watt 6L6 amps. Yes, the speakers are different and give different tones, duh. Maybe you can send me your preferred amps and I'll shoot another video to you your liking? Peace out, homie.

I enjoyed it almost as much as you enjoyed licking it up obviously.😉 If you don’t run the amps through the same cab/speakers and match the EQ to match what you hear.. your AB of the two amp circuits is near ignorant and loosely pointless. Enjoy. 🙂

Nice - I'm sure you'll like it if you dig that traditional Fender/Jensen tone!

I'm assuming you meant phone instead of load. Yes. I want to hear what the speakers sound like in the room. Anyone can tweak/EQ quality mics/pres to sound wonderful in a studio setting. This is how they actually sound without studio fluff. Even when using quality mics, there are a million variances to account for, distances, angles, mics are their own filter, if we're being clinical. This isn't clinical. It's a real speaker in a real room. Look elsewhere for studio sheen tones.

@@northfortyrecords Ok. My bad. I thought you were using a load on power amp thru the Fryette to go direct. But still... why using a phone vs. a regular standard mic like an SM57 without tweaking it, simply straight into a preamp and then to A/D DAW? A phone mic is really bad and not certainly a reference paradigm for human hear. Or a distant mic in the room, still not tweaked but kept flat? Did you ask yourself how much of those speakers you are really hearing VS. how much of the phone mic?

The Jupiter will never be as broken in as a 1960's Jensen, so not exactly relevant. In all my experience with the breaking in of speakers, I've noticed about a .0005% difference in how the speaker sounds pre-break in vs post break-in, and that change happens within the the first hour or so of the speaker's first use. To answer your question, though, If I remember correctly, this particular Jupiter LC had about 20 hours on it at the time.

Wish I could help you out, but alas, I sold it a while ago. Great amp! That Fargen Dual Classic is no slouch, too.

I used a pair of Celestion V-Type speakers - the same stock speakers that Fender Corp has been putting in their black panel amps over the last several years. I think they're PERFECT, handling the verb AND the overdriven tones.

@northfortyrecords The 70/80s were cost-effective and perhaps less dark or wooly as some alternatives might have been?

Are they 8ohm? I’ve got one of these with the old stock speakers and I’ve been curious as to what I could try to replace them with. I’ve always had success with Eminence Legends when on a budget but wanted to try something else

Thanks for saying!

Cant tell how it sounds in the room of course :)

It's really apples to oranges with those two. In general, the Electra-Dyne sounds bigger, badder, and bolder, with a much wider range of distortions to get, due to its three very similarly-voiced channels. It's also mostly because of the type of power tubes. The Blue Angel uses 6V6's/EL-84's, which are smaller bottle power tubes. I'm running KT-77's in this Electra-Dyne. So, the Blue Angel, in general, will sound sweeter, bubblier, less bold, and have a smaller sonic footprint than the Electra-Dyne, with its giant transformers and big-bottle power tubes. Both great amps and great tones, just depends on what you need! Thanks for commenting.

@@northfortyrecords Thanks for the response. Great vids and playing.

That's too bad. I agree with you that, in general, that speaker is dull and lacking character compared to many others. I think that's why it works for such a wide variety of applications. I eventually sold both my 12 and 10 of the GA's. I just have others that I like more.

@@northfortyrecords I've experienced this before with other Eminence speakers. The old rubber shield 1258's I had in my 70's twin were amazing. Fast forward to 2021 when I bought another pair and the "new" ones sound nothing like the old ones to my ears at all. Even accounting for break in period it was night and day. I guess when they make as many as they do and need to source magnets and things from Asia standards can and do drift. FWIW I ended up with two sets for live use: P12Q's for the vintage sounds and a pair of ET65's because I got fed up with chasing tone and settled for mediocrity. Heh.

​@northfortyrecords Which speakers did you find better? Out of you youtube videos, I prefer your GASC64 tone.

@Bairov Best all-around speaker for everything I do is the Jensen Blackbird 100 alnico. I just love it. Cleans are amazing, and the alnico magnet softens the attack of driven tones. Its 100 watts can handle any amp. I just love it. It's been my favorite go-to speaker for the last 3 years. Unfotunately, they're expensive, and I've only seen 2 pop up in the used market in the last 5 years (I jumped immediately and bought both, so I own two now), so on the rare side.

@@Bairov Here's my video of the Jensen Blackbird in a Mesa Mark combo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn-ckoiHesxneNE

Thanks for watching!

¡Excelente elección! Los Jensen en los Fenders son mis favoritos.

Thank you

THANKS I meant!!!

Thanks! You bet. I couldn't agree more. They're great speakers.

me too

I agree. I can hear the richness on the pick attack. Such a great tone.

Very true and thanks!

Thanks - it's such a great amp

Yes! Absolutely. Perfect gigging amp, using the amp for grit and grind. I agree, a very smooth transition to overdrive. Enjoy!