Those 60 series and Tm's are brilliant yeah. Range command bit softer than power command as they have synchros between ranges which wear out. Ask were synchros ever done. Ask when the damper was done. They last about 10k hours I think. Heads tend to drop valves after 10k hours as well so ask if that was done if it's high hours. And ask were the brakes ever done in it either. Not a big job to do brakes nor ridiculous expensive but it's just hassle to do them. Only ever use lhm in the brakes, it'll wreck seals otherwise, that's what happened mine. I'm guessing they topped it up with dot 4 after they did the brakes just before I bought it. Original swing back hitches are not great in them so one with a dromone hitch is a bonus. Avoid supersteer for simplicity but if you want a seriously maneuverable tractor you can find one with it but be prepared to rebush the whole thing because it'll probably be worn out. Pto pack in them comes out the back without splitting the tractor anywhere so that's a good design, easy to access if that wears out. I'd love another Tm150/165 or an 83/8560 to be honest. Super tractors and they have their problems but they've been around so long now there's no mysteries behind them when they break. There's a lot of people out there that will be able to tell you what's wrong with one if it's giving trouble. Good luck in buying one!

the one i was looking at was a massey rebranded fella rake. A little light looking tbh but there's heaps around here because of the local dealer. I've used claas over in new zealand, thought it was excellent, krone i've never used but I had a krone tedder before which broke gears, bearings and my heart 🤣

No, just a service sticker all in Dutch telling you what grade of oils you're allowed to use in various parts of the tractor. I'd love to know more of it's history. All I know is it only first came to Ireland in 2002 according to the logbook.

The gauze in the lift pump was clogged alright and I cleaned it a few weeks back. I should change the filters and check that gauze again. I know it's a diesel problem that was preventing it from starting alright.

He died years ago. He bought our old zetor off us. I know his brother well enough, nice guy.

He sound Yeah he bother working there now

@@fordford9133 must be a different brother. The one I know is a plumber. You local to me?

Where the man died. He bother is there now welding

He's on the same road as Crowley plant hire

It's not ready for that quite yet I don't think 😂

Thanks Liam, using the harvester on the Ford was always the highlight of the year for the day that's in it. Love doing our own silage.

Wait until you hear about my plans to do a maize season out there. Lovely country, was just there. Would you believe I'm 50% Belgian! Crazy. Small world eh?

@WayneMescal wow! So you are 50% awesome and 50% belgian! How cool!! I only recently started following you but your content is super cool! You clearly love the craft! 🚜 vroom vroom

@@emilie5716 Only 50% awesome 😢Tragic. But yes, I do love messing around with these older machines. Steeeeel not plastic like the new ones. Remap them using a typewriter, the way Mr.Cassani intended 🤘

Is there anywhere I can look up to see pics or videos of your gear? I'd like to see

@WayneMescal kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKeQf5J7gqx8Y8ksi=QLHjKVpZMeZf8B6i

@@LuccaThornton-y9r wrapper be for sale? Very nice gear. Where ye from?

Mayo no wrappers staying

Whats your snap I can chat more over their

You'll be on your way soon enough once you've the license. Yep very comfy tractor. The taller tyres make it twice as comfy as the 7810 ever was.

Italian tractors 😅

It has crossed my mind alright. I had help last year but no one organised yet for this year. He did a lot of raking, wrapping, tedding and drawing bales with the bale trailer. I'm going to be very stuck for wrapping this year. Fusion would fix the wrapping problem but I'd still be stretched to do all the other jobs. My baler is worth more to me than as a trade in so was thinking inline wrapper an option but won't be this year.

@@WayneMescalWhere abouts would you be based wayne? Id be interested in lookin into going out driving if it suits.

@garyburke6410 West clare near Kilrush, how about you? I only have part time work for a guy though. Days here and there, I'm not the busiest guy like bigger outfits.

@ Oh right thats a bit far out from me sorry, Id be out near Clarinbridge in Galway

@garyburke6410 That's ok, thanks for offering.

Yes he helped me bleed this after I had it back together but he's not my usual mechanic. You must be local to know that, where are you from?

Message me on Facebook I'll send you details 👍

@@Ravneet11111 I'll never sell that one I don't think, sorry

Ok

So do you have any in your sight for sale in your contact if you have please reply me

@@Ravneet11111 this 6610 will be for sale next year

But I am looking for 8210 or 7810

Yeah I was promised a lot of baling this year and none of it came through. Why can't people be straight about things, it annoys me.

@modelfarmer6710 Thanks, thought it might be a bit boring this one but that's good to hear :)

@georgedoorley5628 I went to pallaskenry for 2 years and been picking up bits and pieces as I go. Facebook and forums and repair manuals are all great help and a local mechanic has been giving me good advice too.

You must have had to be taught you were a slow learner you weren't auto dedicated

@@KevinPhelann-gc1tu How do you mean I was a slow learner and not auto dedicated?

An autodictate is some one who learned himself an apprentice has to be taught

@KevinPhelann-gc1tu I went to agri collge and have been picking up useful information anywhere else as I have needed it while trying to fix problems. I did not serve time anywhere as an apprentice so of course I'm not as experienced as a fully qualified agri mechanic would be. However I still do not appreciate being called a slow learner.

@@gearsandtears7643 patience required with that one yes 😂 thanks for following along, hopefully videos of it working to come eventually

Thanks and same to you!

@ORiordan124 You can get them off autosparky but they can be found cheaper elsewhere. Can't remember where I got it from. The horn is a hella highway horn. Solenoid is a proper high quality one from like airimpact.ie or someplace. Not cheap but the little cheap Chinese ones don't work at all. Screw in tail adapters, rubber fuel line and jubilee clips to connect it all together.

@philellwood4058 thanks Phil. Those big fiats are gone mega money over here now. Hard get them. They're supposed to be really good tractors too but I've no experience with them.

@@WayneMescal Year i am a Fiat man as you know , i have 2 16090 DT both are power shift , one is in need of a rebuild and the other is in very good shape , very strong tractors , but not as user freindly to use as your TM 160 , if you can find one to buy over here they are still cheep , around $ 18000 to 25000 nz dollars .

​@philellwood4058 Couldn't get one for less than 25k euro over here in any sort of decent condition. I would prefer reliability to comfort. My Tm has not been the most reliable since I've had it but it is not overly complicated to fix either. Those Tm's have a lot of Fiat in them. I would genuinely love a terracotta colored 8560. Or M160 as it was badged. There was one sitting on the outskirts of Otorohanga for all the years I was in New Zealand. I'd have bought and brought it home if I could!

@@WayneMescal As you say , you can fix the TM yourself and that in to days world is some thing to have, i would have a TM if one came up at the right price, i only paid 8 k for the rough 16090 and 13 for the other one but have spent plenty on it as it to was in poor state, if i was looking for a really nice one i would have a good look in the USA, as Heston is not some thing on the hot list yet.

@@philellwood4058 There would be a business in that I think, buying hesstons in America and bringing them back to Ireland and selling them to the lads here who are very keen on them.

You won't get a better value for money tractor than an old Same. Just have to know how to work around their few problems like anything else. I wouldn't take a gift of a Ford TW compared to the Galaxy. Synchro gearbox, I'd guess a little faster on the road, brakes in the front axle and with the 30 inch front rims in combination with the mechanical front locking diff, it would absolutely walk away from the Ford for traction if you weighted it up. The problem with the Same is it probably just wasn't built strong enough. TW35 is almost a ton heavier. They're ok though. I always had a liking for them for whatever reason. Thought they were interesting. Different at least. Not everyone has one.

@@WayneMescalas I told you in a previous comment I used to drive a laser 110 and 150 for a contractor and done a lot of ploughing with them and they had great traction and I was very fond of them but we own a TW 10 ourselves and I love that old tractor as well

@@ktm594 Thanks, I thought it might be a bit of a long video to stay interesting the whole way through.

@@LuccaThornton-y9r now it's fixed, hopefully videos of it actually working to come when I get a chance

@WayneMescal she be plenty good enough for mowing and baling

@LuccaThornton-y9r I was hoping it was going to do all the baling this year, that's why I got the 540 put into it. Next year. The Tm can stay mowing, it's nice at that job.

She seemed like a good mowing tractor would u buy a 7840

@LuccaThornton-y9r A 7840 sldp white roof would be nice yeah. The next tractor on my list though is a 7610 2wd. I have a cummins 6bt looking for a new home and I need another small tractor for square baling, tedding, wrapping and handy jobs like that. I've enough big tractors at the moment.

@johndonohue4153 Thanks John, I see you've been commenting a very long time, thanks for sticking around, it's great to get the good feedback. Delighted I got the power issue sorted on it, can't wait to see what it can do now. The Tm is a nice step up from the 30+ year old tractors. Power, speed on the road, usability/comfort and simplicity of maintenance are all positive points for it. A lot of the lads I do work for have complimented it so I'm happy it gives lads a sense of confidence I can do the work when I drive into their yard with it. Only drawback is a decent yoke like that cost more than the Same and the 7810 put together 😕 Yep, have 3 seasons baling on hire done now. Was tedding for hire before then along with square baling and other odds and ends. Been shifting bales on hire since before had the licence just for kinda pocket money. It was the summer job that turned into a bit of an addiction 😂

@Paddy6.30 I'm sure Bernard Byrne combines or Andy Byrne will have an engine out of a combine to suit that agrostar if the original is beyond repair. Be worth saving that, they're a nice tractor, not seen many of the older deutz tractors in person. Will the Rubin be put back going? I'd be afraid it will nearly give more trouble elsewhere once the engine is sorted.

@WayneMescal their was one lad who said that to me about the agrostar I'd say we try getting the water out of her id say the water be In her for some time so tis more likely the Pistons could be rusted or sized she would have to be split anyway for the cluch job and as for the rubin she's always kinda gave the Trouble from the start now I think the father regrets buying her back then but he was lookin for something at the time so he did have to put 2 grand into the ecu for the links and when he was going off mowing with her it was like she was not properly set up so their was a young lad that did not really know what he was doing their we would most likely have to drop the Engine in her or try work around

@@Paddy6.30 Well if the sump was absolutely full of water up to the height of the dipstick at the very least and it was left like that for a long long time, I wouldn't waste time or money trying to rebuild that engine. Much less hassle get a combine engine with low hours and probably a bit more power than the original engine. Would probably work out a nice bit cheaper too I'd say to be honest. The Rubin is a similar story to my own Same. It felt like it was unfixable for so long and there was times I regretted buying it. I couldn't sell it broken, I'd have lost a hape of money on it so I always said I'll fix it and sell it immediately. Now that I have actually fixed it, I'm going to keep it for another year, just to let it earn some money back and then I'll sell it next year if I feel like it then. I'd love if ye were a bit nearer, I'd love to help ye sort both of them out. I'm doing mechanical work now over the winter but don't know where to find the work. After I fix this 6610 I'm doing at the moment I'll be at a loose end again.

That's a completely different way of doing it to the way the book says to do it. There is a page about timing the injector pumps but you need the special tool from Same to do it. They don't give the spec for the distance the pumps need to be shimmed away from the cam. They give you a spec for that in the books for the newer 1006w engines or whatever they are called but not in the P series engines. The heights of the pumps were never touched so that should be fine anyway. The camshaft is fixed so adjusting the injection timing will automatically time up the valves exactly where it should be. The book said to work off cylinder number 2 so that's what I did but I presume that was just because it was the most accessible to be honest. Any cylinder would work, they should all be the same. They're a wicked simple engine, they're really a super design in fairness. It does have a new oil pump but I reckon the relief valve spring is ok in it, probably the shells are getting a little worn now, it's up on near 10,000 hours. Can't beat an air cooled engine for economy. Absolute misers!

Cam shaft isn't fixed m10 fine thread but 12mm holes in cam gear

Non turbo piston travel .18mm before tdc = 4degress before tdc can find out turbo measurements

PTO on 130 /110/100/90 had a damper in side on PTO pack not sure about 150/170 can find out

Engine oil pump relief valve is olin the sump a roll pin holding in plunger sometimes spring broke inside .

@@johnearle6667 I was on the lookout for a 150, never intended on a galaxy tbh. People say the 150 was the best tractor Same ever made!

@ I saw a very tidy 150 going through Cambridge machinery sales a few years ago and it sold for £6500 and I regret not buying it , the contractor I worked for had a 110 and a 150 and I liked them but then he traded up to an Antares 130 and a Titan 190 and they were junk .

@johnearle6667 That's a shame to miss out on the 150. Won't get that anymore unfortunately. Still cheaper these days than a comparable ford but still, they've gone up in price. The electronics in the newer ones let them down alright :(

@@fordford9133 Thanks for watching :)

@georgedoorley5628 Very little rust in this one and it's never left outside. Rival to your tw35 back in the day, a proper size of a tractor. I do like it quite a lot even with all the trouble it's given me.

@georgedoorley5628 what work you use the 100 for?

Thanks very much Phil, I'm delighted I solved it on my own. My dad runs the farm here I don't have much to do with it. I go out on hire baling in the summer and this is my first winter at home in 3 years, I'm usually over in your lovely country at this time of the year. I have decided to try being an independent mechanic at home this winter, just to see how it goes. Currently have a ford 6610 with steering issues in. Video next week hopefully!

@@WayneMescal Hi Wayne, thanks for the reply , yes things are at full swing over here in the ag contracting side of things . I should think you will do well with your workshop , just stay away from the late model stuff .As you can see i am not a big fan of new gear, any way all the best and i hope they pay there bills on time.

@endamcguinness2990 Thanks very much :) Didn't figure out I could do it until after I had it bought. It was the one reserve about buying the tractor only having the 1000 speed. Really limited it's uses. I saw it had the blanked place for a shaft and one for an idler the day I was buying it so I had my suspicions it was doable and took the chance and bought it. Got parts books afterwards and confirmed they coulda had 540 from new. Only problem was where was I going to get the parts because these are not common and they all came with 1000 only as well. It was a very rare option. Could have priced new parts but probably eyewatering expensive. Just so happened I took a photo of the back end of a buffalo in the local scrapyard a few years ago trying to help a lad find a levelling arm for his lift. Came across the photo on the laptop one night and instantly recognized it as the same centre section in the back end. Got the parts book for a buffalo, went matching parts numbers, bearing sizes and all that and most of them matched up. Only difference between the two is the Galaxy had helical cut gears and tapered bearings to suit, while the buffalo had straight cut gears and normal bearings. Worked out perfectly though. And at a fraction of the cost of any new parts. Delighted with that job.

@WayneMescal is still impressive to notice the simarities and do the research and get it all to match up still. Had a notion of a galaxy years ago but the no 540 and the 3 speed box put me off it at the time. The laser/galaxy is probably one of the best same ranges there is.

@endamcguinness2990 gearbox is a bit odd alright but at least it has synchros unlike a ford tw. These yokes wouldn't suit everyone, too slow on the road (32/33k), not as comfy, maybe not as reliable at times but a big old tractor like that suits my smaller workload, my smaller budget and my mechanical ability to fix it if it goes wrong. Cheap power. And I enjoy actually driving a yoke rather than pressing buttons. I got more enjoyment making the few bales at home with the 7810 than thousands of bales with newer gear over in New Zealand. The pride in having your own gear and knowing it inside out, even if it's not fancy, is a nice feeling.

@WayneMescal I don't think reliability will be a major issue to be honest they are a good going tractor.

@endamcguinness2990 I've it kinda gone through now so it shouldn't be too bad hopefully.

@@welshlad100a I'm invested too 😂 that Facebook page is a great resource for these lesser known tractors. I can't wait to get it sorted. The last few problems are very straightforward, just a few leaks and the hitch. We're on the home straight with it now! Thanks for the support :)

@@garyburke6410 Thanks, I always heard they had so many good points about them, I just never got a chance to see mine in action yet.

@ORiordan124 😂😂 I'm not so sure on that, he has a lot more spannering done than me in his time. I just really studied and understood what the book was trying to tell me, that's all.

@jeroenaerts 40 years of reliable service, they must be quite good after all! A laser 100 is not a bad machine I hear. I've heard about the oil pump failures but the one in this tractor has been replaced already so that's good. The piston to head gap is set correctly on all cylinders, we did check that. How difficult was it to rebuild compared to a normal engine and how did you get on with timing the camshaft?

@WayneMescal the timing of the camshaft was not necessary because it was good. The engine itself was not difficult to do because I got my dad and grandfather.

@@jeroenaerts It's great to have family who are also interested in these things. They will have plenty of experience. Where abouts are you from. Belgium/Netherlands?

@@WayneMescal Belgium

@kieranosullivan02 Used to be popular back in the day. The previous owners of this probably got good service out of it in fairness but it's just gone very old now...

nothing wrong with a same ........provided you knew how to drive a tractor ........they were not a tractor for yobs same laser were as good a range of tractors as any ......... same galaxy would put any tractor of similar horse power to shame with its ability on the pto ........... neighbour had a galaxy here and had a 4 meter power harrow and drill mounted on it ...... the temp gauge never rose when working the harrow ...... fitted a new gauge same story .......... called the supplier to complain that the gauge was faulty ......was told , before removing the gauge , to work the tractor in a much higher gear and see if the gauge moved ...... the engine was under no pressure at all in the gear that was being used .......but still faster than the food tractor that was used before this that was overheating .........

@georgedoorley5628 Keep them clean and they're perfect to stay cool! They are neat machines in fairness, simple old reliable power!

@@georgedoorley5628 yes I wouldn't argue it tbh because I only know of one same tractor round here. Is that the problem in Ireland though? Too rare for men to really know what was up with them so stayed away and then you hear the one man with one having a problem that he may have caused himself and then that's everyone turned off them. Like new Holland or john deere are no perfect tractors but everyone has them so the mechanics will know all the troubles real quick.

@kieranosullivan02 My supposedly legendary reliable new holland Tm has been quite troublesome since it came and has had no shortage of problems in it's past too. They all have issues. How easily can you fix it is nearly just as important. This galaxy spent years on a pottinger mex 6 but the guy was a Same die hard so at least he knew to keep it clean and keep it indoors because it wouldn't be long rusting.

@Mrmaige super tbh. I did like 12 hours in it and didn't even burn the one tank under the bonnet

She good so that way

@christophperndorfer7763 had a mchale bale splitter on the back of the tractor with years. Got a goweil bale opener that catches the plastic on the front loader of this Claas tractor now just this year. I don't feed bales, the father does it all. I don't have much to do with the farm at home tbh, I do more mechanics. He still prefers using the mchale splitter I think. Handier in small places.

@WayneMescal nice because we are looking for a machine to handle the bales in winter. At the moment we got a bale spear and feed the cows by hand

@christophperndorfer7763 go for a bale splitter on the back of the tractor. Will make your life much easier. Slices it up, makes it easier to fork. We have a feed passage with barriers both sides. Take the plastic off out in the yard. Back bale into the shed. Keep the bale lifted up on the splitter. Roll off the net by hand. Split bale. Back under it again and split it fully. Take both halves and split into a quarters. Can use the splitter to push and sweep the silage around after a day or so. Once you get used to it there's very little forking.

Nice Job Thank you men!

@kieranosullivan02 Thanks. Yeah if things were wet you'd want to be thinking a small bit but it was dry so it was not something I had to worry about too much. Still preferred to bale up the hill at the same time though, just to be sure.

Haven't looked at it since March. Still mostly dismantled with all the parts taking up a lot of room in the shed. I might be able to start working on it again in February? I have a few things to get through before I can start working on it again.