Sinwar died a hero he died fighting , and a thousand more resistance fighters will rise Starmer told people not to mourn him ,Chris thinks something is wrong with people who do The Gaza Genocide is live streamed no one can say they didn't know , no one ever got their freedom on their knees
@msredskin556 күн бұрын
Free Palestine from the river to the sea 🇵🇸
@msredskin556 күн бұрын
HannibalDirective
@msredskin556 күн бұрын
Zionism is fascism
@MrSzwarz28 күн бұрын
O lived under socialism leading to communism. Thank you very much whoever think and is ignorant of total failure of this inhimain systems.
@kussemeinkont29 күн бұрын
Perhaps you should be asking socialists what they think instead of telling them? I mean that is the central premise of socialism as I understand it, that we all participate in decision making. Then again possibly I'm a tad naive.
@4rightfu1hobgoblin28 күн бұрын
Who do you think is taking part in the discussions?? These are open meetings for socialists to gather and discuss.
@aneurindavies5943Ай бұрын
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even to encourage the more critical and dissident views; that give people the sense, that there's free thinking going on, while at same time, the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits on the range of debate" Noam Chomsky.
@robertshacklock205Ай бұрын
😂 Meanwhile in the real world......
@johnknight9912Ай бұрын
EDL? You need to get yourself updated, I think you will find that they disbanded quite a few years ago.
@doryrealityАй бұрын
Woww… how did I wander into a far left fascist propaganda podcast?
@gemmapeter7173Ай бұрын
The algorithm generally suggests things because you comment on similar things. Thanks for the engagement "comrade", your comments help promote videos like this.
@KeithBrighouse-r3kАй бұрын
I'm afraid you illustrate why working class people aren't Marxists or socialists and don't trust the left. You all seem totally detached from the working class experience. While calling the recent violence riots, is hyperbole, I've seen worse on Saturday nights out in the the town and they were criminal, the are really a symptom of alienation and deeper concerns. Immigration effects the working class on a very real level, most immigrants are in direct competition with the indigenous working class for jobs, housing, education and medical care, unlike middle class political ideologues in ivory towers. Old Labour had the right idea, they were against immigration in order to represent and defend the working class interests. Until the left can get that into their skulls, the revolution is going to have to wait.
@ericritchie6783Ай бұрын
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k This is it, the issue with immigration is not immigrants, its malignant demands on economic growth and global inequality.
@ericritchie6783Ай бұрын
@@KeithBrighouse-r3k This is it, the issue with immigration is generally not the fault of the migrants themselves. Its more malignant demands on economic growth here and global inequality.
@MRW515Ай бұрын
Steve, a man affiliated to ISIS murdered three people in Solingen and injured eight others, you seem to have no concerns. Tate is a mixed race Muslim.
@LeeMoore-fv3zzАй бұрын
How would UK Socialists deal with Muslim grooming gangs?.As I know what the Soviet bloc and Romania would have done.
@MRW515Ай бұрын
This discussion is ridiculous, have any of you ever met any working class people?
@kussemeinkontАй бұрын
It is true that the majority of the British working class are horrendously stupid bigots who will always direct their anger at scapegoats rather than attempt to see past their noses. That's the problem. Well spotted.
@NPC-st7zvАй бұрын
Doesn't sound like it.
@MRW515Ай бұрын
Nick is supporting Capitalism. Mass immigration is right wing, it provides the capitalists with a large supply of cheap labour, it depresses the wages of the working class and take up housing which is in short supply. Nick is a fraud and a gaslighter.
@MRW515Ай бұрын
The riots began in Harehills, so are you accusing the Romani as being guilty of a pogrom, thuggery and lynch mobs, or are you just accusing the white working class of that?
@NPC-st7zvАй бұрын
They use the Schmittian exemption for their friends and pets. They will never criticise anything they agree with, no matter what.
@simonBailey-dy3qy2 ай бұрын
government doesn't care about us
@alanwood49682 ай бұрын
They are not very social are they they try to make the old die by stopping there extra for keeping warm in the winter. There own parents who looked after their children while they went to work these people were not children they wear a nightmare of greed. Starmer is one of them a coward of a man who leads the muslims and ILLEGALs who broke the law to get here. Then takes the money for winter warmth so you die either from starvation while keeping warm or death from cold because you fed yourself, We have one of the lowest pensions in the modern world yet we pay the highest rates for our pensions WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE MONEY STARMER? given it to the muslims or abroad you cheat.
@royevetts49003 ай бұрын
there is no far right, they are a figment of your imagination.....socialism destroys...as we can see by the socialist policies playing out in Europe atm....You are only interested in living in a fantasy where humans are chattel slaves for you irresponsible spending policies and ideas.
@Theoobovril3 ай бұрын
If people wish to live under Marxism, then you can do no better than go and live in China.
@NickWrack3 ай бұрын
China is not socialist or communist. It is capitalist, no matter what it calls itself.
@Werewolf9063 ай бұрын
So little conversation about the Green Party has surprised me. Greens are now the most successful electoral party to the left of Labour in history. Clearly the most socialist adjacent vehicle that could be bettered by the engagement of more socialists and communists joining its ranks.
@kevinlaing87123 ай бұрын
It would be good if the speakers could say why they dismiss and reject Galloway's position. At one point 'reactionary' is the dismissive word used. Definition of 'reactionary' needed. Later speaker says Galloway is a 'menace', without explaining why. Explanation needed.
@WillMcmahon-i5i3 ай бұрын
There are lots of concerns about Galloway's positioning. For example, having a union jack as a fade out back ground to some media messages is not good - it looks like a broadcast from the far right (or the Labour Party) and having red white and blue as the party colours sends out a very nationalist and reactionary vibe. Take a look at the election leaflets G issued in the Rochdale by-election ... two different leaflets aimed at a supposed solely Muslim audience and another to an assumed not muslim audience. The politics were very different in both and none of it socialist, in fact some of the comments seem reactionary. Take a look at the WP education policy - it uses arguments of localism to cover for issues around religious schooling. Many of us who have worked with GG in the past have found him to work like a rather typical left bureaucrat - ie does his own thing and does not collaborate. We have had too much of this in the past with other left leaders like Livingstone and Scargill to go through anything like it again. For a genuine party of of the working class to be succesful it needs to be open and democractic and have socialist politics to the front - i.e the need to take the big step from a society based on capitalist economics to one based on socialist economics. GG and the WP do not do this. It is just rehashed social democratic politics that has stymied the left for decades.
@talkingaboutsocialism3 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin, Nick Wrack deals with some of your points in this article: talkingaboutsocialism.org/nationalist-socialism-is-not-socialism/ We would be interested in your views.
@astralcowboy55113 ай бұрын
Listening to the opening statement of this I’m reminded of the film ‘The Land That Time Forgot’
@goose95153 ай бұрын
"We hold no side in the conflict between Germany and Czechoslovakia, as this is inter-imperialist capitalist war" truly the movement for the masses
@dec31423 ай бұрын
Don't stand a chance with the majorty of the public getting their news from the Sun newspaper. This is a dead country.
@johnhanson59433 ай бұрын
As per the fundamental problem with the new feudal - fascism a’la the Oligarchic Clique (cult) represented ‘totally’ mainstream parties (New Labour, Tories, LibDems, Pol. Greens, etc.), how to secure accountability/representation and true competence in government under Communism? Do you not just run the risk of replacing corrupt / abusive oligarchs / party actors with corrupt / abusive party functionaries? Hence, much as I like the idea of a world free of oligarchs, I’m genuinely not that keen on the communist alternatives either. I make these comments having experienced some communist countries in my travels over the decades. Human rights and massive crimes against people are a problem under fascist systems and also, unfortunately, under communist systems. If the Communists could solve this fundamental problem, they may be far more attractive. I am genuinely interested in a better world minus the Oligarchic - but how can one flush the system of the corrupt / abusive of all types once they have their hands on power? How to enable competence / responsible use of tech and science, if you come under bad leaders / infiltrated leaders? Automatically rotating power structures, etc? Other ideas?
@axelbruv4 ай бұрын
Since the Tories have made it possible to vote from overseas, I wonder if Toby's considering it.
@owlsrace4 ай бұрын
Britain is a Tory country. The majority of the workers are Tories. The Tory media lead their political viewpoint. Thatcher changed everything. She created New Labour. They are the UK Democrats and the Liberals from the days when there were only two parties in Britain, that were both establishment parties. The workers vote for who the media tell them to vote for and the establishment control the Tory media. Its a waste of time voting. If voting could change things, the establishment would ban it.
@hariowen38404 ай бұрын
And the stupid continued use of that Russian word 'comrade' - just plays right into the hands of those who are continually and actively in the business of discrediting the concept of socialism generally. So why do you keep using it???
@stuartwray61754 ай бұрын
Russian word? - Wikipedia: Comrade
@hariowen38404 ай бұрын
@@stuartwray6175 The word, like many words are, is derived from the Latin word camera. I'll therefore rephrase: a word that has strong connotations with the failed Russian communist revolution. (Which is often used to rubbish the socialism cause.)
@Mark_Dyer4 ай бұрын
What is with this 'religious' or 'liturgical' use of the word "Comrades"? The word 'comrade' means a close friend and fellow-fighter against oppression. Yet in the West there is very little oppression compared with that in, say, Communist China or Communist North Korea. Then there is the oppression caused by your friends of the ISLAMIC demographic: in this Country, and in all those in which ISLAM holds sway. You poor old things. Are you entirely unaware that the UK is ruled by a single GLOBALIST-COMMUNIST Party; whose orders come from unelected sources? Wake u in the back row!
@stuartwray61754 ай бұрын
very patronising; very trite.
@Mark_Dyer4 ай бұрын
@@stuartwray6175 Do you mean akin to the manner in which politicans speak to us, "little people"?
@JimmyJimmyRiddle4 ай бұрын
SORRY no one will bother with a vid that lasts an hour + keep them to 10 mins and post more vids - respect though
@talkingaboutsocialism4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. We will definitely try to do that.
@JimmyJimmyRiddle4 ай бұрын
@@talkingaboutsocialism good luck and stay strong 👍
@axelbruv4 ай бұрын
Nothing can be said in 10 minutes. Long-form discussion is interesting to a lot of people, myself included.
@johnbirch76394 ай бұрын
It is a lot easier to ask, "What is right with LABOUR."
@axelbruv5 ай бұрын
Tobias seems like a lovely fella and very interesting to listen to.
@Joseph-ax9995 ай бұрын
Calling these recent arrivals immigrants is totally disingenuous. They are nothing but invaders. So what are my sources? First an interview with Julian Assange on Hilary Clinton's role in the war on Kadafi. Second, the comments of French residents for nearly 15 years. These came from the left, the right and everyone in between. I have a decent reading knowledge of the language and their opinions allowed me to understand the situation in Europe in a way that previously was nearly impossible.
@stuartwray61755 ай бұрын
Vikings were invaders. Lol. Just saying. Nor am I advocating mass, uncontrolled immigration. Hillary Clinton also, on behalf of Corporate America, applied a great deal of pressure on Haiti not to raise the minimum wage. That's capitalism.
@Phoszoe1375 ай бұрын
Oh please. Stop pretending every conservative is “Far Right.” It’s ludicrous. What’s worrisome, however, is the potential that very real Far Right politicians will be elected because of the uncontrolled migration supported by the Left.
@matthewmallan19955 ай бұрын
Italy is just lucky I guess. 🤣 So long pinkos
@jontheodore84505 ай бұрын
Mussolini was not far right he started life as a Socialist. The meaning of the Far Right today is just a label given by MSM and Governments to people that don't agree with their current agendas and want their Countries back...
@EonSlemp5 ай бұрын
one of the biggest problems i have when discussing communism with people that are not proper comrades is that they keep comparing basic quality of life metrics of places like east-west germany, north-south korea, or taiwan vs china. the problem is that anyone with phone can quickly look things up that directly refute the things i am saying. how do we conceal these differential outcomes from the masses long enough achieve power over them? my main tactic right now is to try and shut them up through social shame by making groundless accusations like calling them 'fascist', 'racist' or some such slur, but eventually people are going to realize what i am doing and just ignore me. can you help?
@MrTriple3D5 ай бұрын
got me in the first half
@EonSlemp5 ай бұрын
@@MrTriple3D i know right. its tricky. but that is reality.
@Joseph-ax9995 ай бұрын
Touché
@EonSlemp5 ай бұрын
@@Joseph-ax999 i bow deeply in response
@EonSlemp5 ай бұрын
one of the biggest problems i have when discussing communism with people that are not proper comrades is that they keep comparing basic quality of life metrics of places like east-west germany, north-south korea, or taiwan vs china. the problem is that anyone with phone can quickly look things up that directly refute the things i am saying. how do we conceal these differential outcomes from the masses long enough achieve power over them? my main tactic right now is to try and shut them up through social shame by making groundless accusations like calling them 'fascist', 'racist' or some such slur, but eventually people are going to realize what i am doing and just ignore me. can you help?
@kentdaniel68865 ай бұрын
You people live in a fantasy world.
@CertainEvent5 ай бұрын
She was sold to Italians as the femme-Mussolini. What they got was Tony Blair. She's not far right in any meaningful way. You guys live in fantasy land.
@raymondturner39525 ай бұрын
Meloni isnt far right at all.😊
@StarSprangledBanner5 ай бұрын
Give an example of a far right policy.
@raymondturner39524 ай бұрын
@@StarSprangledBanner Destroy the global banking system and free the world from wars being started just to make money.
@raymondturner39524 ай бұрын
@@StarSprangledBanner KZbin won't let me.
@floro76875 ай бұрын
With the current EU policies there will be plenty far right in Europe.
@Tulkash015 ай бұрын
Italian here: what happened in Italy post 1989 is not markedly different from what happened in other western Countries. The heirs to the PCI (which at one time was the strongest communist party outside the eastern block and claimed cultural hegemony in Italy) moved progressively to the right. The culmination of this process was the leadership of Matteo Renzi who could be equated to an Italian Starmer (Renzi claimed to take inspiration from Blair but he is far less skilled as a manipulator) and, as correctly pointed out here, enacted several right wing policies the actual Italian right was never able to, despite being in power for quite a long time. Currently the left is scattered and ineffective. There are some left wing politicians in the Democratic party, and the base mostly is, but the apparatchik certainly is not. The 5 Star movement is on the left, in a somewhat paternalistic way reminiscent of the old democratic Christian left. It’s worth noting the 5 stars move originally managed to gather quite a lot of support from traditional right wing voters, but basically lost them all in recent years (thus the loss of half of its support). Parties like the Greens or other minor formations who aspire to renew the communist legacy are barely worth mentioning. That said, what we can see in Italy is the disillusionment of the electorate. Almost 50% of the people don’t vote anymore because they perceive their vote will do nothing to improve their material conditions. This strengthens the right, because they are actually good at defending and promoting the interests of their core voters. To the risk of appearing simplistic: Italy has around a 30% of the population who engages in one form or another of tax evasion and the Italian right actively endorses policies that grant these people will be able to keep dodging taxes. Then there is a part of the working class who votes right based on having to shoulder the negative consequences of immigration (this is not dissimilar from what happened in the so called “red wall” in northern England). Would there be a way for the left to win? Yes, as long as they were able to reject the neoliberal contamination that caused them to lose their core support and thus were able to endorse really transformative policies. Unfortunately that does not seem likely, especially because a large part of the Democratic party has been captured by neoliberal “influencers” (the parallels with Labour are there but to a lesser degree of ruthlessness, as Starmer would say). As things stand rightwingers vote, because they feel it is in their best interest to do so, while people who want change do not. The only way for the left to win is to find a way to unite expelling the neoliberal elements and then convince the almost 50% of the electorate that doesn’t vote anymore to give them a chance.
@Kitiwake5 ай бұрын
"Far right". What exactly is that? But we know what communism is.
@axelbruv5 ай бұрын
What an odd question.
@mworkman33755 ай бұрын
What's odd about the question? People use it constantly and sometimes it seems to mean anything to the right of revolutionary Marxists. If you don't want limitless, uncontrolled immigration, you get called far right. If you think that males are boys and men and that females are girls and women you could get called far right. It's bordering on meaningless.
@VaucluseVanguard5 ай бұрын
Not really, we know whee you have communism you get poverty, mass incarceration and eventually mass murder.
@sisiphas5 ай бұрын
Millions dead through communism. Millions dead from National socialism. An EU bureaucracy that id b’ind and stupid. That’s why
@StarSprangledBanner5 ай бұрын
Define communism
@stuartwray61755 ай бұрын
Asa Winstanley April 20, 2022 - How the CIA and Italy's secret state manipulated the right and infiltrated the left.
@stuartwray61755 ай бұрын
Gabriel Rockhill "are Fascism and Liberalism partners in capitalist crime?" - Critical Theory Workshop, utube channel.
@lochnessmunster11896 ай бұрын
'Public ownership' isn't really possible. Does everyone in the world 'publically own' it?
@demandbetterworld6 ай бұрын
It used to be a choice between "socialism or barbarism". In just a hundred years capitalists have turned the choice into "socialism or extinction".
@lochnessmunster11896 ай бұрын
No, we are NOT going to go extinct under capitalism or any other system. Why do you think this is the case?
@SvenErik_Lindstrom37 ай бұрын
I would be much interested to hear about Marxism from a Socialist Point of View.