You definitely don’t want that as it will be adding loft and closing the face to the left for a right handed player! That is something that’s very important to understand!

At what position in the swing? Are you able to get into the waiter holding a tray position at the top of your swing. (Right hand and right wrist if you're right handed).

@ I can get into that position when I’m practicing a swing at a slow speed. But regular swing speed it always goes into the cupped position.

I think Adam would likely tell you the two work together. The left pinky by applying pressure in the squeeze applies pressure upward, and the left palm applies pressure downward. The two counter balance each other to create a secure grip. Take pressure out of either and you'll lose grip of the club.

Dan, thank you so much! We love Pinehurst and the Southern Pines area… we do have some good news. We are going to be somewhat close as we are going to be setting one up at Kiawah in South Carolina! We’re going to do a couple there. We have one in San Diego every month. We are also going to do six in Connecticut and two in Chicago this year!

Suggest keep your trail elbow and tricep close to body throughout the swing. Close but not tight, should be relax

@austinchan452 thanks. I try that but once in awhile a shank with my wedge mostly come and it cripples me. It's something I definitely need to work on.

Huge huge compliment there! Thank you Patrick! 🙏🏻

I’ve watched you work with Gavin G. via video at Firethorn G.C. in Nebraska. There are a ton of coaches on KZbin and I’ve watched many over the years. You and Dan Grieve are the only two I consistently watch now.

Wouldn’t be the first second or third time!

@ lol 😂

With all due respect, I could care less about what they say! I just teach what the people need to hear and everybody gets better in front of me! PS I don’t even know who athletic motion Golf is… never heard of em 🤷🏻‍♂️… i’m sure they fine! Doesn’t mean anything to me and my players tho

this is strictly talking about lead arm, and one thing is for sure…if you have a strong lead hand, you better counter it with a weaker right! Like you’re ringing out a towel

@PorzakGolf So actually with this type of natural wrist hang it would be better to have more neutral lead hand with strong trail hand. This would keep the trail shoulder more internal and elbow tucked.

You’re simply not fighting the natural rotation of YOUR lead arm and placing the hand on the grip accordingly…we have many videos explaining the role of the trail arm and how to grip that…u are NOT altering the trail hand accordingly. The stays a constant regardless of the lead hand

I'm an outlier. The back of my hands point directly forward when standing upright with natural hang. If I don't strengthen the trail hand my whole process becomes out of kilter.

@meyer7262 you should definitely have a stronger left and a weaker right! the strong right hand most likely a band aid to another flaw in the swing. That is probably why it makes you feel uncomfortable because you should never have that right hand underneath the club, especially if you’re telling me that the back of your hands face outward the way they do. it should feel like you’re wringing out a towel. you don’t wanna be dependent upon a strong right hand with a super shut faced to square the club up at impact as that will prevent your ability to rotate cleanly through the ball.

Fred was unique and a true anomaly! We teach the path of the least amount of manipulation… also a swing that’s injury free and Fred unfortunately has a lot of back issues as a result of the manipulation he’s had to make with his downswing over the years. Not many have the ability, like Fred, to find the slot and be great through impact without great structure in the backswing.