ces gens avaient un savoir faire incroyable , perdu maintenant
@didierhenry18 ай бұрын
Trop domage, faudrais peut-être s'y remettre ?
@kkupsky63219 ай бұрын
@TorbjörnÅhmen
@BunnyR139 ай бұрын
What amazing footage, I wish my Lothar-Walther barrels were that pretty.
@JAllenKaiser9 ай бұрын
It’s crazy to think that most of these old smithing techniques cannot be used on modern steel because it’s *too pure* and doesn’t have the natural “contaminants” like silicon and phosphorus that make this type of ironwork possible - and even give it a degree of corrosion resistance.
@karukurokami9 ай бұрын
As a practicing blacksmith, I feel compelled to mention that this is not at all true. Every technique used in this video is applicable to modern steel as well as they rely on properties inherent to iron and steel as a whole. Pattern welding/damascus is in fact still done exactly this way, by stacking different grades of steel and forge welding them together. Modern steel also isn't "too pure", it is simply much more consistent. Manufacturers can closely control which impurities are present in steel and how much of it, and many are readily added to some grades if steel to improve its qualities like toughness, corrosion resistance, and hardenability. The main change from the time of this film to now is that the production and use of wrought iron has generally stopped, as it was replaced by much more cost effective Mild Steel. Wrought iron had some unique qualities including extraordinary corrosion resistance compared to mass produced steel, but this was largely a result of how it was made (which involved a laborious and very expensive process compared to steel). At any rate, all the metal used for these gun barrels was likely already sonewhat modern steel by that time, as wrought iron is a much worse material for this application.
@redneckhippiefreak10 ай бұрын
You are watching some serious labor...Least of which May be the filming But, You can rest assured this photographers arm was worn out from cranking that camera. Edit... Ok, I have seen some beautiful and complicated Damascus pieces but, I mean.. Le Z'enobe Gramme in a ribbon, within a ribbon, wrapped into a barrel is just, well.. Damn Impressive.
@Stefan_Van_pellicom10 ай бұрын
Wallonia hasn’t changed much since then …
@jebsails283710 ай бұрын
Hopefully films such as this will keep the art-form alive. Thank you. Narragansett Bay
@greggoodes10 ай бұрын
Left me feeling quite sad. Skills that don't exist anymore. A lot of impressive mustaches
@redcruben10 ай бұрын
Interesting to see him use an old bayonet near the end of forging
@-LeClown10 ай бұрын
Deux fois visionné Deux fois bleuffé Merci pour ce trésor
@didierhenry110 ай бұрын
Fait plaisir 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@-LeClown10 ай бұрын
@@didierhenry1 Il est rare de voire des vidéo pédagogique de notre passé. Celle ci est vraiment top On mesure l'ambiance, le savoir faire et la dureté de cette vie 👍
@didierhenry110 ай бұрын
@@-LeClown les gens endurcis
@christianvalenzuela22510 ай бұрын
I saw an primitive American way to make gun barrels, different. They pledge an pletine al long, and solder it itself by beat it white color hot Seems in a city Whilliamsburg on US( I cant remember exactly) Both procedures very interestings!
@didierhenry110 ай бұрын
It would be difficult to make the barrels today, it would be too expansive.... but what a way of working it was ....
@michelmoreau-dc3gq10 ай бұрын
Ils ont amené leur savoir avec eux ❤❤❤❤
@user-rm8hz4lj4i10 ай бұрын
И под каждую операцию своя наковальня. Н чего себе
@shlamimk466410 ай бұрын
I love how people used to just stop whatever they were doing and just solemnly stare at the camera guy. I wish people still did that.
@lalonexus3010 ай бұрын
👉💯💯👍
@guyvossen164011 ай бұрын
Dommage que ca n'existe plus. Cétais un métier exeptionnel dans le province de Liege.
@olivierlemoine86711 ай бұрын
😉👍🤙👌
@dennisyoung463111 ай бұрын
Wrote about doing a similar process in a fictional context. Some thoughts: 1) the reason twisting, etc is done is that the original material was *carburized Wrought Iron,* which usually has a lot of slag and other impurities. The twisting, piling, etc. helps get them out of the metal. 2) this also achieves better homogeneity, *if it is done with sufficient care.*
@didierhenry111 ай бұрын
Thx for the information.
@franswaardef470911 ай бұрын
Bizjzonder interessante video over een helaas bijna uitgestorven ambacht. Veel respect heb ik voor de vaardigheden van deze mensen, maar wat een armoede zie je in de beelden.
@didierhenry111 ай бұрын
Het klopt armoede was er zeker, en toch hebben ze duizenden, als het niet meer is, lopen gesmede daar in Nessonvaux. Ze wiste toen ook niet beter denk ik.
@bibzo111 ай бұрын
I have an old one in my shed I often wondered how it was made, brilliant film.
@didierhenry111 ай бұрын
Me too a have 3 cannons from these man, and time is eating them quietly but surely
@charlesgreco517911 ай бұрын
Bonjour à tous et merci pour ce beau reportage... Sans être désobligeant, pourquoi sous-titrer en langue anglaise alors que, s'agissant de notre patrimoine wallon, peu de mots sont utilisés en français ? Cordialement.
@didierhenry111 ай бұрын
Bien le bonjour, trés bonne question á laquelle je ne saurait répondre, je crois que comme L'anglais est une langue que presque tout le monde parle. Et donc comme ça il y aura plus de personnes qui comprendront et qui captureront le message ... bien à vous.
@SrAlmadenejos11 ай бұрын
Si por favor pudiera alguien poner subtítulos en español; a mis casi setenta años, me quedado impresionado con semejante documental. Muchas gracias al responsable. Mis saludos.
@didierhenry111 ай бұрын
Buenas tardes buscaré a ver si es posible tener subtítulo en español, no prometo nada, estoy intentando encontrarlo. Que tengas un buen día y espero poder ayudarte.
@George_Doc11 ай бұрын
Моя повага цим ковалям.Я сам іноді займаюся слюсарною справою,заради задоволення, і те що я побачив вражає.
@xarkava9648 Жыл бұрын
Μοναδικό ντοκυμαντέρ!!
@ginoescamilla2656 Жыл бұрын
Que maravilla de trabajo ojala lo aigan transmitido a sus decendientes
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
La clave es la paciencia y la gestión
@c.merovee8987 Жыл бұрын
J'ai regardé votre reportage avec une humilité immense. J'ai pris conscience de mon incompétence et surtout de la désinvolture de ceux qui savent tout. Votre reportage est un trésor, mille fois merci.
@troyrinehart989 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this. My great grandfather passed down a barrel with "Canon damas turc de paris" written in gold inlay that he found in a creek bed in West TX. I still live on his homestead, and wonder how this made it all the way out here.
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Wauw with gold inlay, even more difficult to make i think. I have got 3 barrels from these guys, great grandfather, the barrels are flocking off and I have no idea how I could stop this occidation proces, before they cramble down completely , have you any idea how i could protect them ?
@troyrinehart989 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 Depending on the level of deterioration would determine how I would try to preserve them. I used gun oil for years, applied just the same as I would on one of my firearms to prevent rust. Recently I applied CLP which contains silicone, looks to be working. Looks like we both inherited from our great grandfathers which is unique.
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
@@troyrinehart989 too bad they couldn't teach me their knoledge 😒
@troyrinehart989 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 I agree completely. So interested in the technique. A lost art to say the least.
@Tsudoshi09 Жыл бұрын
This is simply amazing and a gem of a documentary! The craftsmanship and work put into these barrels! The detailed patterns that were visible in the film! How I wish to revive this art
@craigguilmet6282 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us enjoy this film.
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
no problem, glad that some can enjoy seeing this way of working 👍
@453421abcdefg12345 Жыл бұрын
A fantastic glimpse of past skills, modern man thinks he knows everything, but he could not even begin to do what these people are doing as an everyday job, the sad thing is we are constantly told by ignorant media that all the superb guns that relied on these skills should be destroyed, whereas they should be considered along with the highest forms of art. Chris B.
@craigguilmet6282 Жыл бұрын
I agree, the skill and beauty of these firearms is mind boggling.
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@freitasn102911 ай бұрын
Eu concordo plenamente com você, fantástico feito primitivo de armas, hoje temos tudo em tecnologia e achamos saber algo, maldito presidente aqui do Brasil hoje em 2003 distraiu muitas armas, distraindo a história de cada uma, maldito fala de democracia mas esquerdista só apoia bandido da raça dele...
@gorbalsboy11 ай бұрын
Your an ignorant child if you think man hasn't progressed little middle class boy, plenty of working class people do back breaking work in the western world,wait a few years till you have a considered option before posting again boy and till then be quiet 🤫 all the best from sunny Scotland
@BobJury-lf6bb11 ай бұрын
Hard way of making a living
@stoesselvarginha456 Жыл бұрын
Que coisa mis linda, que conhecimento de forja conhecimentos que se perderam !!!
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Eu não diria imediatamente que está completamente perdido, ainda há algumas pessoas que ainda podem fazer isso, espero!
@nikitamckeever5403 Жыл бұрын
I have an A Nestor of Limerick side by side Damascus ribbon twist hammer shotgun , 30 inch barrels , 12g and I have never seen how they were forged . I appreciated what I have and because it’s pre 1880s I only shoot black powder and lead solid brass cartridges through it . It’s very dark in that forge too . Lost art or extinct process . I enjoyed watching that , thank you .
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
You are welcome, i have onlawys wondered why i was atracted to steel, withpout being a magnet, it must be somwhere in my genes, only some people could be able at this day to perform like they did, incredible workers. It's my proud and pleasure to share this movie .
@nikitamckeever5403 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 thanks again 😁
@stephenloquens7964 Жыл бұрын
I shoot with a Charles Boswell side lock ejector with Damascus barrels reproofed nitro. A shear joy to use and a beautiful piece of fine craftsmanship. It’s amazing how many people are not aware of this type of barrel manufacture and history.
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
How could they be so accurate in there work, crazy !!!
@mail9353 Жыл бұрын
Au delà de la vidéo, l'on a du mal à s'imaginer, les efforts et la dextérité qu'il faut pour forger un canon damas à la main. 18:06 il me semble reconnaître l'outil avec lequel le maître forgeron gratte les scories, c'est une baïonnette mauser 98 de 14-18. 19:40 en arrière plan, d'immenses meules pour l'affûtage Jean Delcour-Dupont (18..-1931), Maître canonnier, à Fraipont-Nessonvaux (commune Belge), puis à Liège.
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Tout à fait, l'atelier se touvait à Nessonvaux, je ne sais pas si les maisonettes existent toujours...
@mail9353 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 Désolé, je ne peux répondre, car je demeure sur Paris, espérons que cela ne soit pas comme chez nous, car l'on fout tout en l'air de nos jours, même notre patrimoine historique, c'est ainsi, malheureusement... Cependant, afin d'avoir un visu du lieu, essayez de faire une recherche sur google earth ou google map, en utilisant la fonction 'street view', via l'icone mobile, en forme de petit bonhomme jaune, qui permet de se déplacer dans les rues de nos villes.
@georgesdelfosse4077 Жыл бұрын
C'est tout bonnement magnifique ! Je suppose que les fusils de cette qualité étaient destinés à une clientèle fortunée. Une arme de l'époque avec un canon damassé ça doit couter cher aujourd'hui. Je suis intéressé par les armes depuis toujours j'ai été visiter des collections avec des armes incroyables, de la précision, des gravures, ce sont des artistes...
@guillermogonzalez4675 Жыл бұрын
Interesantisimo, verdaderos maestros artesanos, lo que no daría por aprender de ellos.
@cromagnonneandertal6532 Жыл бұрын
merci de nous faire voir cela . un régal des yeux
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
Avec plaisir, fou comment ils ont travaillé !!
@retroviseur5301 Жыл бұрын
extra ce film, merci pour ce partage 🤩👍
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
pas de quoi ! Dingue comment ils travaillaient !
@retroviseur5301 Жыл бұрын
trop cool 🤩tu ma mis des étoiles dans les yeux un savoir faire perdu 😞en plus il y avait un coté déco que les armes modérne on plus ,ou alors ca cote un bras,merci pour ce doc exceptoinnel un vrais plaisir pour les collectionneurs❤ tu a un nouveau abonné😁A+
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
@@retroviseur5301 Ca fait plaisir de fair plaisir, je possède encor 3 de ces cannos Damas, ils sont en piteux état, et je ne sais pas comment je pourais les conserver et arrêter leur oxidation....
@retroviseur5301 Жыл бұрын
@@didierhenry1 tout depend de leurs états apres il faut les traité a l'antirouille il y a plein de marque en vente sur le net ou une petite hidrólise,puis un pti traitement mais bon si il son mort, c'est mort!! domage😡"déco"
@didierhenry1 Жыл бұрын
@@retroviseur5301 ils sont tous les 3 noir et s'éffrtitent 😭, donc morts ...
@unpersonnage7439 Жыл бұрын
👍
@DanielMorales-zq1xn Жыл бұрын
Hombre moderno..........no sabés nada de la vida!!!
@alanrogs39902 жыл бұрын
Nobody's hair survived back in those days. I wouldn't want to arm wrestle any of these guys that's for sure.
@theskincartridge12342 жыл бұрын
excellent stuff..
@pietergroot1562 жыл бұрын
So beautifull perfect.
@usnchief13392 жыл бұрын
I bet those MEN had no problem sleeping. Absolutely amazing video...thank you!
@didierhenry12 жыл бұрын
They also did not know about burn out en depression, you are most welcome, facinating to me !
@py2rpjrubens4502 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! My grandfather told me about this technique, a very long time ago! 73' from BRASIL
@didierhenry12 жыл бұрын
you are welkome
@user-qp1pl2he7u2 жыл бұрын
все это. фуфло.
@didierhenry12 жыл бұрын
а почему фигня?
@happyculteur50213 жыл бұрын
KZbin est un océan de bêtises. Et parfois des trésors comme ce témoignage de l'intelligence intellectuelle et manuelle, apparaît. Merci pour ce précieux partage.
@didierhenry13 жыл бұрын
Heureux de savoir que cela vous plait, la maîtrise de ces hommes c'est fou !!!
@wjgrind3 жыл бұрын
Being a welder for 50 years I can't get over they are doing all their work with white hot steel/iron without gloves! Not to mention no glasses for their eyes. I have always liked Damascus and those shown are really nice. Thanks to the poster of this.
@mauricioandolini26143 жыл бұрын
Excelente documento. Que maestría. Me encantó el flaco de la pipa.