2 things can be true at once. He wants to sleep with you but still dissociates cus trauma. Like he still disassociates if you’re romancing him but he still wants to sleep with you and the drow twins

He‘s faking it because he needs Tav‘s help/protection, basically act 1 again. If you romanced him, he’s already being honest with Tav AND himself, and everything about the situation stresses him out. He doesn’t mind you and Halsin going, though. After you disposed of Cazador, he is open to try. He hates every moment of it, but at least the decision was his own.

@@ArDeeMeebro if u already met Araj, he realizes that he doesn’t need to use his Body when he doesn’t want to anymore. This is of his own free will, he’s not seeking protection idk how u got that idea given his whole story. He’s a trauma survivor that’s wants a healthy relationship with sex and his own body again, sure if u go ahead with it he disassociates but literally bros healING not healED. He clearly wants to do it with them but he’s falling into old habits of dissociation, which doesn’t mean he’s retraumatized again.

You are welcome he makes me laugh so much xD

It’s to not confuse anyone with the “shower of gold” because from what that guy has seen, he has to be sure you know he means money 😂

So the reason part 2 isn’t up yet the game thought for some strange reason we were together and he called me his consort 😂

If you have the Blood of Lathander/any other weapon that emits sunlight equipped, then it counts as an attack. You have to unequip it, or turn off the passive feature.

This. He might also still be trying to secure Tav’s protection through seduction

@@KeitieKalopsiait wouldn’t really make sense this far in the game though

but you get this scene after killing Cazador, what protection does he need in this case?

@@helheimhellhound Protection from the evil world, monster hunters and self righteous heroes with no empathy for example. Astarion until Cazador has extremely negative view of the world and he considers every person as either a pathetic victim, naive idiot, evil perpetrator or evil bystander. He can start healing after but it's not a magical switch and healing is not linear. Furthermore a lot of people still vilify him (just look how the gurs dehumanize him at every possible occasion). Astarion's deepest desire is to be safe and he has been conditioned to believe he can only achieve it by letting himself be used for pretty much his entire life. Just killing Cazador won't automatically change his fears, habits and worldview in an instant. A comparison of what he says in his romance route when he trusts you with this scene kinda also confirms he is not being honest here. It gives act 1 romance scene vibes. Also if you play as durge you get a confirmation that it's not just Cazador that he is afraid of but pretty much everyone and everything.

@@helheimhellhound After killing Cazador it's a different scene, this is if you are friends before killing Cazador.

@@s1b3r11 he's not a little baby

@@pixie3803 indeed he is not. He's also not a little baby in act1 or act2 and yet it's clear he's only using his body to gain protection. Besides he is still a former slave and sa survivor with body autonomy issues who straight up tells you in his romance route he doesn't want to sleep with people he is not involved with anymore and that he has problem saying no. There is a reason why romanced Astarion asks the player not to make him do it but "friendly"Astarion in the same scenario propositions. He obviously is more honest with romanced Tav which means the scene above is just him acting and using himself like in act1. He doesn't need to be a baby for me to find it sad.

Have medium approval with him and am romancing Wyll for a playthrough. Gave Astarion the Book of Thay and he said to the book he might be up for dispatching Wyll when he fought the book. I wonder if medium approval gives him a crush, too....

@@Sabrina-ju6uv I think medium and high do too. If you don't romance him and go to the drow twins and have high enough approval (I think medium included) they can suggest he join and he says he Tav made the mistake of not sleeping with him and he wants to correct that. At that point you are already invested enough to keep him safe and depending on how you play, yelling him he doesn't need to seek himself any longer, so it's something he genuinely wants, it seems.

Sounds terrible ngl

Wow

Poor Karlach 😭

This is especially funny because if you try to get her in on it she's super weirded out about them being siblings. Poor innocent Karlach, sitting in the lobby, trying not to picture the debauchery.

Poor Karlach 🥺

This takes me back to when my guy friends were talking about golden showers and I thought it was just a shower made out of gold and searched it up and all the results were about pee

😬😬😬 a "golden shower" you say? 😮😮😮, "coin, not piss. Got it"😐

And doubly important with this specialized kind of service provider. 🤐

That line had me cackling. The delivery made me think that there must have been cases of people misunderstanding what the guy was asking for in the past. xD

You have to kill Cazador, then he's down to try at least.

You have to go after defeating Cazador

Before Cazador he doesn’t agree with, after he agrees, but it won’t be pleasant experience

After you kill Cazador and get the final romance scene, he’ll be interested in trying it and will go through with it, but the narrator says that as you gaze into his eyes, he seems a million miles away implying that he’s not enjoying himself. I feel like before the final romance scene, he declines bc he and Tav have discussed not basing their relationship on sex bc he explained being forced to use his body as a manipulation tactic and sex is tainted for him. Meeting and propositioning the drow twins makes him feel insecure, like Tav is sexually frustrated and tired of waiting on him. Afterwards, I think he’s more open because he has found clarity in enjoying pleasure but with someone he loves. He finally found the reason he wants to sleep with Tav isn’t through manipulating an alliance, or because he’s horny, but because he loves them and likes that type of intimacy. That’s why I never sleep with the drow twins regardless because the way they fawn over him and treat him during the scene seems to bring back the tainted memories, even if Tav is there with him

I haven't killed Cazador and I didn't romance Astarion and I had this dialogue option anyways. So it seems to happen when the approval is high (he drinks my stupid Tav's blood)

It's a one-time thing and he still dissociates.

@@MarinaCorbi poor baby :(

@@MarinaCorbiWow, getting this dialogue with an unromanced Astarion will be a different level of hurt for me. It’s like he’s still so desperate for protection that he’ll do anything to ensure that you sleep with him.

@@chienj9223he wants protection of course, but maybe new experience in his own terms to

@@katiatall I do feel like it could be both. While it seems to lean toward the protection angle, he might also want to try this as a means of regaining control and knowledge of himself.

If you still need it, it's the Enraging Heart Garb (merchant Lann Tarv in Moonrise Towers). You can find it in the Basket Full of Equipment (mod) as well

The Bloodguzzler Garb looks the same! and it can be found in Act 1, at Underdark. I don't remember where exactly, but somewhere around minotaurs

also funny how in my old bg2 playthru she sat there and watched me ascend the throne of bhaal and didn't do shit but help me

You have to have Astarion as your only companion while playing as Dark Urge. Dismissing everyone else from your party won’t work, he has to be your only companion, period. I’ve heard it’ll work if everyone else is dead though, but I’m not sure for myself.

Not important I think. But it's fun to watch his true reaction without any other companions.

It’s also extremely unlikely for someone to get this without doing it intentionally since he has to be your *only* companion. Everyone else has to either not be recruited yet, or dead.

Jsyk you can tell her to fight with you before going in and then you can control her during the fight

@@geekroom2365 That was added later in a patch. She used to be uncontrollable at that phase and she was always going in headfirst.