I know! It's very frustrating. I'd just buy a fixer upper pop up or something now, I've seen them pretty cheap on Facebook marketplace. I'm actually going to home Depot to get some things today for the camper and dreading the prices.

Great question, I wish I had the numbers but I haven't recorded them. Our next trip is to Arkansas and with very limited charging we're taking our ICE vehicle. If I can find some time I'll take it on my little towing test loop and see what numbers I get then report back. Thanks for asking!

Thanks Josh! I only have 1 other video but I do intend to do a Q&A video and maybe some more as I continue to work on it.

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I have tested the 3M spray glue as an adheisive and it melts the foam. There are foam glues I should probably try though. Thanks for the suggestion.

@@AaronKasten well shoot... thought that might work for ya. I used that stuff a lot when I was drywalling. I'd like to build a foam camper and pmf it

@@user-wq1zm5le7t I remember seeing people say these glues work great hotwirefoamfactory.com/glues/ However I found Titebond 2 was more than good enough for all of my needs beyond joining. I really think spray foam like great stuff is the way to go when joining foam to foam. I would wrap edges in wax paperand tape it on tight to prevent the foam from expanding out too much. I used painters tape mostly but it doesn't stick to the foam great so you have to use quite a bit. It helps get much cleaner edges though.

Wow good timing! I am going to post an update video in the morning. It's made and edited.

Thank you for the kind words, the recent comments really motivated me to get the update video done and it will be out tomorrow! Jan 11

It's coming tomorrow, thank you for the encouragement.

rooftop AC wouldn't fit in my garage. I also already had the window unit collecting dust.

Thank you!, I have an update I am sharing soon. After that I will make a Q&A video.

The fiber glass was more expensive and I am cheap! Also (or maybe mostly) I was intimidated by fiberglass, the fumes and all that. I recently purchased some to experiment with but have not done anything yet.

@@AaronKasten I hear you on the intimidation, I’m looking to build my own camper but would really like it to be fiberglass, & I’m intimidated as heck… not too many how tos out there, perhaps I’ll film my own for the world to see. Cheers from Wisconsin

I am not smart enough to attempt pocket doors lol. I thought about doing bed liner on the underside but it really doesn't get very wet or dirty so I think I will leave it as is. It is all coated in POR-15 and that stuff is pretty tuff. The way I did the king bed in mine fold from couch to bed also. I hadn't really thought about it dropping down from the ceiling. Thanks for the compliments I like how your German engineering brain works.

I know boats have been made out of PMF. Something to keep in mind is the glue used. Tightbond brand has three formulas: Tightbond is water soluble. Tightbond II is water resistant and Tightbond III is waterproof. If you're building a camper, you can get by with Tightbond III but for a boat, I personally would use Tightbond III. Also, regardless of whether you are building a camper or boat, I would use a canvass drop cloth for the unseen layer(s then go over that with a cheap bedsheet from a thrift store. The finer threads of linens will result in a smoother finish than canvas provides.

@@matthewcollins4157 All great thoughts. Thanks.

Mathew made great points. I used mostly TB2 but when it was sold out used TB3. I also didn't water it down like so many people suggest. I would spread some glue on the foam. Then lay the canvas over that, then using a spray bottle I would mist the canvas, so it would absorb some of the glue, then I would do glue on the outside of the canvas. This helped fill the canvas gaps.

@@AaronKasten I'm also against watering the glue down. A few additional suggestions, Use more layers, and also use different directions for the cloth orienting it on 0 degrees, 90 degrees, 45 degrees and -45 degrees. The clock is strongest in 0 degree orientation. That is from head to toe on a sheet or if on a bolt of fabric, the length of the bolt. The fabric in this direction will not stretch. 90 degrees is the width of the bolt or from the left to right of the bedsheet. It also does not stretch much but will have a little bit more give than the 0 degree direction. 45 and -45 are "on the bias" and goes from corner to corner, you will have the most stretch in this direction. This is the direction good for going around curves and is the easiest to distort when laying it down so do be careful laying in this direction. Keep in mind that parts of the hull or camper (or whatever) will need strength (0 or 90 degree) but also some parts will need to flex, twist, or give and that you want to incorporate 45 and -45 degree lay up. parts of an aircraft fuselage will use a 0, 90, 45, -45, -45, 45, 90, 0 lay up pattern with regular fiberglass and may have more or less layers depending on where on the aircraft it is (there can also be 30-60 layers in some areas) I am not suggesting that anyone needs to lay up 60 layers of PMF for our purposes, though if you are an engineer you are welcome to figure all of that out and the proper lay up pattern, but if you are an engineer, you are probably not watching KZbin videos on PMF or reading this comment. LOL Treat the cheap canvas drop cloth like the chop strand fiberglass batting for bulk and the bedsheets as woven fiberglass cloth for strength.

@@matthewcollins4157 More layers would have made it super strong, and would probably make it significantly more resistant to impacts. What you describe makes me think of composite Kevlar body armor. However for my application, I think it is proibably a bit of overkill, my biggest mistake came from a lack of framing in load bearing and moving areas. Had I not backed into the garage with the hatch open on our first use I think it would be near perfect but that little bump compressed some foam and broke my hatch framing lose. I also should have framed the rear hatch itself. As the canvas dried it shrank a bit and now the hatch has bow to it. I'll eventually probably rebuil the entire rear hatch area but haven't been too woried. Even driving about 200 miles in the rain, there was almost no water penetration in the back. What did get in was along the very bottom and wiped up easily with a towel when we arrived at our destination.

Hi Ken, sorry for the delay, new update tomorrow Jan 11 2024 just a year later. Sorry I was discouraged and needed to get over myself before sharing more.

How's it going? Thank you for the comment

The truth is I did it so that no matter what side I sleep on I can still get up in the middle of the night and pee without disturbing my family.

Thank you! The windows are RV windows they sort of sandwich the wall to hold in place, I added butyl tape on behind the outside layer of the window rim to ensure it is water proof.

I know... I am sorry. Self doubt , fear of video editing, and embarrassment from a dumb mistake discouraged me from posting more videos, I am over all that though and a new video is coming Jan 11 2024, you just a year late. Better late than never right?

Mini split would have been perfect but I already had this window unit collecting dust. Update coming tomorrow!

LOL, I didn't want canvas on the inside I planned to have paneling, I have an update tomorrow that will show some of it. The canvas doesn't do a great job protecting against impacts and I have young kids. I don't think the canvas on the inside would have held up well. That said I did canvas the wall between the galley and the cabin and it's holding up fine so I could be wrong. I'm going to proceed with the paneling when I get around to cutting all the pieces.

Update coming tomorrow.... finally

Thank you! I am posting an update in the morning Jan 11 sorry for the delay

I know I am sorry, Self doubt, fear of editing and embarrassment from a dumb mistake discouraged me from sharing more, however I finally got over it and am posting an update will be out tomorrow.

thank you!

Have you started a second one? Mine is holding up great, new video on it tomorrow.