Thanks! For ML outdoor bedroll, you'll need to check 3 spots: that yellow train cart, the cave at 1:13:00 and the hunting blind at 1:24:00. If you don't find it at any of these spots, it means the ML outdoor bedroll doesn't exist in your run, and you'll have to find the bedroll somewhere else (usually BI due to the closeness).

@@fernandoullaguari9073 Yep, that's just how it is with NOGOA winds.

@@gotmilkanot That is also how HRV is :D

Good luck! I still love regular NOGOA more than all the new Misery stuff. More balanced mode and taking away stims, running and stuff is just more mean than fun IMHO.

Oh, i just finished watching 😅

I like how Misery afflictions make you so much more fragile in the late game, though I wish it used NOGOA baseline instead of Interloper. Things like BBT availability, high plant spawns, more forgiving wind make Misery feel a lot easier for experienced NOGOA players.

Just to overwrite the stats from my previous True OuterMisery run.

@@Flaming_mark I think the timer will still be -30min instead of -1h.

@@gotmilkanot maybe

@Flaming_mark Yep, it's been some time since I last summited so I forgot the starting point for the goat down 😅

Not the same as your naked run - I checked your 1st episode, you looted mountaineer's hut and coal in closed cave systems, which already violated the rules of this mode. *Rules for True OuterMisery (TOM):* - Misery mode but only stay in places that accumulate "hours outdoors" on stats page - Anywhere that accumulates "hours indoors" is off-limits - all locations with load screen and areas with significant warmth bonus - exceptions: - warm part of open caves allowed to loot but not stayed in - transition caves/mines between 2 regions allowed to pass through ONLY IF there is no other purely outdoor way (e.g. can pass through HRV-MT cave but not ML-MT cave). No looting or loitering allowed in such caves/mines - "Hours indoors" can be non-zero (as you might accumulate enough indoor time at some point), but keep it as close as possible to zero I already did a TOM run here (61 days): kzbin.info/aero/PLXqXJ3R-kIHnjloD55Iwg0_nbA9Ag-mgP I am currently doing TOM+ which is a harder version of TOM.

@@gotmilkanot mountainer hut should be the same like a cave where you can loot the warm part quick :) but anyway ok got it. challenge ok but it sounds a bit boring then you need alot of start overs until you get a outside bedroll. no backpack then an not the big ch coal mine because you can reach ch over the ravine. the only coal is from WR then or HR outside caves

@@evendark1974 Nah, those "outdoor" structures with significant warmth bonus (>5C) are not allowed. That is the very basic rule of outer runs. I still allow looting the warm side of open caves to avoid confusion - if not, people will be like "oh I was freezing and didn't know the coal I picked up was on the warm side". Also to make it not too harsh - most outdoor coal and bedrolls are on the warm side. Also, you can't pass through the Dam in this mode because it is a building with load screen. To get to ML from PV, you must pass through cinder hills mine -> CH -> Ravine. And you can't loiter around (e.g. warm up) or pick up anything (including coal) while passing through such transition caves/mines between 2 regions.

@@gotmilkanot j4f you can reach CH on a normal outer way this means you can only go over winding river -> dam then ^^ the only transition caves that you really need to pass is HRV, going to transfer pass, WR, and one to reach blackrock, the last for DP. but yes the fact of RNG get a bedroll on the ouside and star over again and again is nothing for me :) i like to start and go

@@evendark1974 I just said in my previous comment that you can't pass through the Dam 😅 Must pass through cinder hills (PV-CH) mine if you want to go from PV to CH or ML. All you need to get a start going in this mode is RNG matches before hypothermia. Once you have matches, you can check the outdoor bedroll spots in PV, WR and/or beeline to ML via CH -> Ravine. If still no bedroll in ML, then go to BI. So there is no need to reroll starts until you get a bedroll in PV.

Sure for regular Misery, though the gameplay will be even more tedious and boring because you'll have to start a fire every 50m. I don't think it's possible for True OuterMisery though.

Yeah, they should have just used NOGOA instead of Interloper as the baseline settings.

In NOGOA, no, it has the same cold progression rate as Interloper. There is this "Extreme Temperature Drop" mod that allows you to tweak the cold progression, but it didn't seem to be working when I last tried. So all my Misery NOGOA/OuterNOGOA gameplays so far do not have Misery's cold progression. Also just a side note: I think Misery OuterNOGOA is borderline impossible to survive past the first week if it had Misery's cold progression. True OuterMisery works because even when it's impossible to avoid cold damage early game, there is still health regen till Broken Body which comes only after 46 days survived. No such thing as "condition as a resource" in Misery OuterNOGOA because we have Broken Body from the start and every cold damage has x2 multiplier.

@peteralexandersitzwohl8560 Truly a "bruh" moment, but good to know finishing all 3 tales in this mode is very doable if one were to play more cautiously.

Thanks, kind of annoying with the heartbeat and stumbling but let's see how far we can get with the 3rd tale.

Yeah, it didn't seem that high up to me. I also noticed the 8hp loss was due to 2 sprains, so the actual fall damage was negligible :/

@@gotmilkanot is it safe to fall from carter dam's fence with broken body and rheumatic joints?

Should be. I don't remember taking any damage from there.

The main selling point of the moose cloak is protection. If I'm wearing it as inner, it's basically just a much heavier mackinaw. I seldom use the moose cloak to be honest. I crafted it in this run only because I had 2 consecutive moose kills in BI. Since I already had a spare moose hide, I thought why not just craft the cloak instead of killing and harvesting 2 more bears or 4 wolves.

@saeedTHEgreat It was a turbo wolf (accidentally triggered it) so my timing to shoot was a little off :)

No worries, you don't have to watch it the moment the episode gets released :P

@Noxen74 Not really for ravaged carcasses. The advantage for quartering is that the harvesting progress is still saved if you cancel e.g. due to bad weather.

​@@gotmilkanotAh, that makes sense. Giving up a little bit of speed for the ability to react better.

@Noxen74 Yes you can, unless they patched it recently.

@bryanlonger8646 I doubt one even needs to go all the way to DP in this challenge. But yeah, that spot is decent (though not 100% windproof) if you do end up in the region.

Thanks! Not much OuterNOGOA gameplay out there on KZbin so I was like "fine, I'll do it myself" :)

@saeedTHEgreat Oh, nah I already picked the starting region and passed through HRV ice caves (something I ban in my own NOPE runs), so this can't turn into NOPE. I'll be doing some mending as well, so very likely there will be mending fails. The additional self-imposed rules are there to spice up the run for _myself_ .