I never knew Tim Follin was just a gateway into nightcore this whole time

The intro is more impressive in 60 but it’s so deliciously groovy at 50hz.

waaah! the aspect ratio is slightly wrong!!!

just realized the aspect ratio is wrong. embarrassing!

thank you for posting this Complete throwback to my childhood. these beats popped into my head while typing at work today.

Who's the composer ???

I think some parts have less punch at 50hz, like the explosive arp heavy part after the intro, but some of the melodies that use a lot of 16th notes are a lot more understandable. There are upsides and downsides to the NTSC and PAL versions

I have to admit that while it loses some of the energy of the NTSC version, the song would be MUCH more bearable to play live at this BPM, especially in regards to the arpeggios!

Fun fact: Since PAL runs at 50 FPS while NTSC runs at 60 FPS, if you put the playback speed of the PAL version at 120% (1.2x), you will get the NTSC soundtrack but slightly lower pitched.

yotsuba pfp very cool

groovy

favorite tune from Silver Surfer! also, because i've (and alot of people) have only heard this in NTSC version, this sounds more relaxing!

I am too used to the 60hz version. Wow, this feels so different. Thanks for the upload!

i love this

speed run 4 got me into this song just like for Lvl.1 by z3bb3

This sounds better than the one used in my opinion.

wow 50 Hz might be the way to go

Well, this "slower" version sound more like what he does in other games. I always found the Silver Surfer OST to be a bit fast, that's probally why.

This sounds kickass, like how it's slower. It's chill. The other one is great too.

Sounds weird, maybe he meant to make this one 60 hz.

You were right!!! This is how it sounds!!!

There, now it matches the C64 version as uploaded pretty much everywhere on KZbin

This sounds good and I get that it was the original speed but I still prefer it at 60 Hz, gets me more pumped, it was like one of those Bob Ross "Happy Accidents"

This is still a super banger, but I do like the 60hz version more

Nothing personal, Mr. Manager, but this sounds way too slow. Pretty sure the speed in the released game is how it was intended.

Nostalgie ^^

Ce jeu vidéo est un must-have.

La meilleurs des version!! vive le 50hz !!!

He has a comment here(kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJCse4yZbtlmrLM) where he speaks about how he handled the same thing when composing for Time Trax. He said in retrospect, for Time Trax, the ideal playback speed was probably inbetween 50hz and 60hz.

yeah i'm hearin a bit of Jethro Tull in here, prog as fuck when slowed

Also worth mentioning that Follin himself is English, so it makes sense that he'd be composing for PAL specifications!

Now this particular track sounds decent in the PAL format. Not sure about some of the others though.

The 50 Hz speed works so much better for this track than the 60 Hz speed.

This version actually sounds sane! especially the parts after 0:30, which fit the game quite well.

I am quite certain the songs for Solstice are supposed to be in PAL, It does sound a lot saner in PAL. Don't know about this one, given the gameplay and the fact that the Silver Surfer is an American creation, I think this soundtrack may have been composed for 60hz, or at least somewhere between 50 and 60 (like Time Trax). Anyhow, Tim's stuff works for both NTSC and PAL.

Sound's like nes got atgamed

Thanks for the upload; I think it's important for us to have both versions. It's surprising just how much of a difference there is between the 50 & 60 Hz - it just has a different feel to it.

Thanks for taking time to do this, it's interesting to know that we've been admiring these at 18% faster speed!

Thanks for taking the time to do this. Interesting to know this is how it was meant to be heard.

I'm glad Time Trax got this stuff cleared up. In older games he composed with both 50Hz and 60Hz in mind, so the intended speed was somewhere in between the two. With later games like Plok, this wasn't an issue.

Turns out this is the intended speed. The game was originally european, and imported to the USA. Tim follin himself has stated it many times. As opposed to say, commando c64, which was intended to be NTSC but everyone thinks it's supposed to be PAL. (comparing with the arcade makes that very obvious)

Tim Follin: I did like composing for the NES, even though in many ways it felt like a step backwards from the C64. I think initially it annoyed me and felt very limiting, but once I’d mastered some basic ‘tricks,’ like how to have bass lines and drums on the same channel, it opened it up to more possibilities and in a way became quite a useful ‘instrument,’ though it did lend itself to certain sorts of music. That’s the thing with sound chips, the music I wrote, even the style, was always whatever worked on that particular chip, which is why it altered quite a lot between consoles. Solstice was basically the culmination of all the tricks I’d learned plus I also felt that I’d done a lot of different styles on the NES for some quite boring games, and I’d enjoyed writing Ghouls and Ghosts so much because it gave me an excuse to write some folk-rock, so when Solstice came along it gave me the excuse and opportunity.Incidentally, the intro to the tune was inspired by a YES concert I’d recently been to - Rick Wakemen started the concert playing something quiet and childish on the organ, then there was a big explosion as the whole band came in with ‘Starship Trooper’ - in fact if you listen to the first two chords of Solstice, they’re essentially the same! Also I should mention that most versions on KZbin are the 60hz versions which are too fast - it was written at 50hz (PAL) and should be heard at that speed!

You say in the description that you don't know if this is how Follin intended this music to sound. It is. I've read an interview with him where he was asked about the Solstice theme, and at the end of his response, he added: "Also I should mention that most versions on KZbin are the 60hz versions which are too fast - it was written at 50hz (PAL) and should be heard at that speed!" I should note that as this is specifically talking about Solstice, I don't know if that applies to his other NES soundtracks.

Can you upload the 50hz version of Thomas the Tank Engine & Friends' soundtracks which was also composed by Tim and Geoff Follin?

I apologize for my Google Translate, I am Russian and almost do not speak English. Tim Follin said in one of his interviews that the Solstice theme was not completely uploaded to KZbin and that he originally wrote it in PAL. I conclude that this also applies to the rest of his themes for games for NES, namely, he said about Solstice in an interview, since he especially likes this topic. It is known that Tim Follin does not really like his music for NES games (with rare exceptions like Solstice) and does not understand why this music is still remembered and loved by many people around the world. These versions of the Follin brothers soundtracks brought me to your channel. It was in this form that I heard the Silver Surfer soundtrack in my childhood. In the territory of the former USSR, a clone of the NES game console called Dendy was distributed. He worked in the PAL system, and the games were from around the world, including this one. Tim Follin also wrote about the soundtrack for the game Timetrax that the soundtrack was created in 50 Hz. I agree that sounds better. In general, I noticed that for me in PAL the music that I heard in this form in my childhood sounds good. The rest I like more in NTSC (for example, Treasure Master, Wolverine and Solstice). I believe that Tim and Jeff Follin are geniuses who do not understand this themselves. Their music is above me any other music, above all. I recently discovered the main theme for the Incredible Crash Dummies by Jeff Follin, this is pure euphoria, a drug of happiness. Once they will be studied along with Bach, but today I am grateful to the few people who know and love the Follins. Thank you.

Game originally was developed for PAL region, so 50Hz soundtrack is how it's supposed to be.

They did wonders to get such a wide variety of sounds out of the NES

I don't think I've seen a double height gaming graphics card this narrow.

Yes yes join me and my crappy graphics card that can run skyrim and Dark Souls and everything else on max graphics for some reason......

cool!