@@DerekBlackwell-km8mh I'd say 99,1

nice cap troll Lockdown will easily destroy Scourge without any difficulities. Lockdown already killed Cade Yeager and bunch of other humans while destroying Hong Kong. Optimus never had any chance to defeat Lockdown and only won because he had help and even then they couldn't win without plot armor. Lockdown destroyed the strongest Optimus prime on extreme mode whereas Scourge was on easy mode and still lost to the weakest Optimus

@@Melkorsolostheverse Pretty stupid stuff you just threw out there, brother. Do you really think that Lockdown defeats Optimus Prime from the Bayverse? XDDDDDD, Optimus even in his weaker version could dominate Lockdown in the middle of the fight in a very ingenious and simple way, and that Lockdown is fully equipped and had a good advantage, but even so, he was defeated without any problem from the most impotent version of Optimus, Besides, in the last confrontation between Optimus and Lockdown, Optimus had lowered his guard because he had saved Cade Yeager, and he had Lockdown down and could have taken advantage of the moment to finish Lockdown in a faster way, besides, don't start saying that Lockdown is very ''GOOD'' in combat, since in the confrontation that Optimus had against Galvatron, Lockdown took advantage of Optimus to attack him from behind, Lockdown can't even fight a Prime, let alone Megatron or even Grimlock, the only strategy Lockdown has in mind is just to take advantage of his opponent while he's distracted, in short, I think Lockdown wouldn't be the one to go head to head with Scourge, because otherwise, Scourge would already do shit xD.

@@Destr0yer. you are the one who creates stupid and awful stuff just like every Lockdown hater Optimus never defeated Lockdown at all in any fight at all and he never dominated him in his weaker form. the one who was at his weaker form was Lockdown. Optimus in his last fight with Lockdown never had any advantage at all as he was being straight up being bullied by Lockdown who was intentionally nerfed by the writers themselves. what this entirely means, is that Optimus has plot armor against Lockdown just so that he could finish him off. it was already said by the producers that Lockdown was always superior to Optimus in almost every aspect. and Lockdown is only below Sentinel in terms of combat easily, no other transformer besides Sentinel could outskill him at all. Lockdown never took atvantage of Optimus being distracted, he wanted to enslave Optimus in a faster way. He could easily defeat that Optimus because Optimus had no weapons at that time whereas Lockdown could use the same weapons like at the final battle. Lockdown never attacks his opponents from behind when they are distracted. he fights them in a fair fight and destroys them. he was created by the creators who also created Optimus and Optimus was trained by Sentinel, the only one who is more skilled than Sentinel. Scourge on the other hand is very slow, small and dumb, he won't even react to Lockdowns attack because Lockdown blitzed Optimus who at his weaker and slower form reacted to Mgatron flying at mach 3 in the first film. Lockdown absolutely destroys Scourge, picks him up and then tears him in 2 just like D-16 did to Sentinel in the newest Transformers film

@@Melkorsolostheverse Mega simple to refute a fat loser with down like you xD, by the way, it should be clarified that I have never said that I ''HATE'' Lockdown, I don't know where you got that kind of farty and erroneous information, but well. For starters, where do you get those kinds of ''claims'' where Optimus never defeated Lockdown? Literally, in the movie we can see that Lockdown was fully equipped to catch Optimus Prime, but Optimus Prime in his weaker version, managed to tame Lockdown without any difficulty, besides, where do you get that Lockdown was ''weak''? XDDDD; you're not even good at arguing, I can imagine when you're in the middle of a debate against a random, but anyway. What do you mean? If Lockdown began to take advantage, thanks to its size, speed and agility, you could even say that Optimus managed to swallow almost all his blows, but Optimus did not stay with his arms crossed, there are even scenes where it is shown that Optimus managed to hit him with some blows, as well as, There is a scene quite CLEAR to observe, where Optimus knocked him to the ground with a single blow, on the other hand, Optimus had the opportunity to finish with Lockdown in a faster way, but in the end, he ended up wasting that opportunity, having saved his guest. And no, at no point in the movie, we are shown that Lockdown had been ''NERFEED'' as you say, and as I said before, Optimus managed to eat all of Lockdown blows. therefore, the one who was given a lot of advantage and good plot was Lockdown, but as you are a Lockdown lover who every now and then licks his boots, you only serve to deny realities of him xD, in fact, you are completely wrong, Lockdown always took advantage of Optimus and you have never refuted me the parts, in which I said like: ''Lockdown intervened in Optimus' fight against Galvatron, shooting him in the back'' or ''When he was distracted, while saving Cade Yeager'', and what about the fight in the forest? Optimus managed to tame 3 Decepticons that were bigger than him, including a gladiator and former warrior of Cybertron (Megatron), well the ''fair fight'' thing, I find it kind of silly of you, since as I told you before, you never answered me the times I mentioned about Lockdown attacking him from behind and blah blah, look, about Scourge being ''slow'', I can let it go, but the ''dumb'' and ''small'' thing, no way, Lockdown and Scourge are practically the same size, given that, unlike Scourge and Lockdown, Scourge never did cowardly actions (like attacking from behind), even he held his last breath standing in a totally unbalanced fight xD, keep dreaming Lockdown fanboy who thinks he dominates Scourge and Optimus Prime in a fight xDddd.

@@Melkorsolostheverse And you have never refuted my refutation...

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nice troll New Optimus is weak as fuck he is nothing compared to Bayverse Optimus who negs your favorite character and verse. Lockdown will rip the metal from Scourge and turn him into his meat

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good joke Scourge fangay Lockdown negs Scourge I feel your pain kid

@@Melkorsolostheverse Keep squealing, Lockdown fanboy xDddd.

@@Destr0yer. you're the one's sqealing Scourge fangay, you'll have to vote Donald J. Trump for the president of USA if not you will go to jail or he'll build a fucking wall all over your house

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nope he isn't. Lockdown is way more powerful, he is more powerful than unicron himself

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lol cap Scourge never defeated Optimus but Lockdown did he was never defeated in any fair battle Lockdown can kill any version on Optimus iwht ez diff Scourge couldn't even Beat weakest Optimus