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@jayvenable4279
@jayvenable4279 2 ай бұрын
Such a great presentation! I look forward to applying his wisdom. Age 69 with back pain.
@dalecoughlin5124
@dalecoughlin5124 2 ай бұрын
And they play faster
@johnhoie-hj7cg
@johnhoie-hj7cg 2 ай бұрын
Bobby Jones?
@KarlG-y2v
@KarlG-y2v 3 ай бұрын
You know, if you got these enhanced by one of those digital services, they'd really be great and maybe even able to tell who some of them are.
@garybryson1900
@garybryson1900 3 ай бұрын
I learned much from this video. Thank you.
@jimrobertson3767
@jimrobertson3767 5 ай бұрын
😊
@user-ci3il4cv2d
@user-ci3il4cv2d 5 ай бұрын
Ty for this.
@davidcrocker9806
@davidcrocker9806 6 ай бұрын
Show don't tell FFS!
@wrench3r
@wrench3r 6 ай бұрын
Sitting here with a spore back trying to modern mechanical pivot swing. I can do both when I natural let the club flow and whip though it’s pretty natural and no body aches.
@russellpitney278
@russellpitney278 7 ай бұрын
modern golf instruction is harmful to the body pga pros prove this with their injuries every day
@coloradospringsbuilder5967
@coloradospringsbuilder5967 7 ай бұрын
00:00:00 In this section of the "Mehlhorn Golf Seminar" video, Bobby Shade introduces a recording of Wild Bill Mehlhorn from the mid-70s when Shade was the golf coach at Floyd Nash University. Mehlhorn shares his unique perspective on golf, emphasizing that each person's muscles and joints move in their own way, and there's no such thing as one-piece action. He encourages golfers to understand that every activity, including golf, requires the use of muscles and joints. Mehlhorn believes that the most important thing is to be comfortable and relaxed, allowing the elbow and shoulder to move in unison, regardless of the specific task or activity. He also mentions that the top-ranking golfers let their bodies do the work naturally, without trying to force it. 00:05:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar, the speaker emphasizes the importance of being your own best teacher in golf and the need to find comfort in your swing from the neck down. He discusses various common mistakes in golf swings, such as trying to slide with hips or using an unnatural shoulder action. The speaker advocates for keeping the body and arms in a natural position during the swing and emphasizes that anyone, regardless of age or body type, should be able to perform the same basic swing. He also mentions the importance of maintaining a clean address position and keeping the body still during the swing, with minimal extra movement from the other foot. Overall, the speaker encourages golfers to focus on finding a comfortable, natural swing and to avoid unnecessary complications. 00:10:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar, the speaker discusses the importance of timing and connection between the hips, legs, and arms in golf swings. He emphasizes that the hips should lead the movement, not the shoulders, and encourages golfers to focus on keeping their hips close to the ball and using both hands to grip the club. The speaker also shares his personal experience of discovering the importance of using the correct muscles and proper grip to improve his golf game. He encourages golfers to break away from traditional teachings and focus on the natural way the body moves to swing a golf club effectively. 00:15:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar video, the speaker shares his personal experience of playing golf left-handed for two years and then switching back to playing right-handed. He explains that during his left-handed play, his right arm was out of the way, and when he switched back, he discovered that his right forearm did 75% of the work in the swing. He suggests that this can be proven by trying out different tools and observing which hand does more work. The speaker also references a doctor's advice that the hand closer to the club head does more work, and he encourages golfers, regardless of their preferred hand position, to keep this in mind. The speaker also shares a poem he has had for almost 50 years that emphasizes the importance of the left foot in golf, which he notes is a concept that is starting to gain more recognition in golf instruction, with Hogan and Gary Player being early proponents. 00:20:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar video, the speaker discusses the misconception that the golf ball should be aligned with the left foot for a proper swing. He shares his experience of proving to young golfers that the ball should actually be aligned with the right foot for certain shots, particularly bunker shots. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the mechanics of the swing and how it relates to other actions in life. He encourages golfers to challenge their assumptions and learn to look at things from different perspectives. The speaker also shares his experience of contradicting popular golf teachings and encouraging golfers to experiment with playing left-handed for a stronger swing. 00:25:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar, Freddie Jack discusses the importance of keeping both hands and arms working together in the golf swing. Mehlhorn emphasizes that letting go with the left hand at the top of the swing can result in a loss of control. Jack demonstrates this concept by showing how the arms work against each other when one hand is not in the correct position. Additionally, Mehlhorn stresses the importance of maintaining the correct grip and face of the club, as well as coordinating arm and leg movements. Harry Vardon's advice from 1921 is also mentioned, encouraging golfers to use only two-thirds to three-quarters of their effort and work within their natural tempo. 00:30:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar, the speaker emphasizes the importance of a smooth and fluid golf swing. He explains that fluidity is not just about the absence of jerks or hits, but also about maintaining timing and control throughout the swing. The speaker admires Julius Boros' slow swing and believes that hitting down on the ball results in a shorter and lower shot. He also suggests focusing on the subconscious mind and muscles to execute the desired shot. The speaker concludes by emphasizing the importance of control and consistency in golf, regardless of the speed or style of the swing. 00:35:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar video, Maur discusses the importance of proper arm alignment and timing in golf swings. He mentions that an out-of-sync arm movement can lead to one hand working against the other, making it difficult to achieve optimal results. Maur also touches upon the idea that golfers have not significantly improved their athletic abilities over the years, despite advancements in training methods, and questions why golfers have not broken many records like other athletes have in sports such as the hammer throw or discus. He suggests that golfers may be neglecting the subtle forces involved in the game and encourages a return to traditional golfing techniques, such as cleaning the ball on the green and fixing ball marks. Maur notes that in his day, golfers accepted being off the fairway and picked up the ball if it wasn't in a hazard, but modern golfers strive for better accuracy and rarely take drops. He shares that during the PGA Championship in Washington, he estimated that around 40% of golfers were missing the greens, but after making this remark, he was informed that the actual percentage was closer to 35-40%. 00:40:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar video, the speaker emphasizes the importance of comfort and muscular ease in the golf swing. He advises against squeezing the club too hard and encourages a smooth, slow swing. The speaker also explains that the arms should move independently of the body, like swinging a baseball bat. He repeats that the palm of the hand should remain the same throughout the swing, and that bending the elbows is natural. The goal is to hit the ball as if one is swinging a baseball bat, with the arms moving independently. 00:45:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar, the speaker critiques a golfer's swing and identifies several issues. The golfer's left hand is positioned too strongly, causing his shoulder to be approximately four to six inches further away from the ball at contact. This misalignment affects his accuracy and consistency. The speaker emphasizes the importance of keeping the elbow straight during the swing to avoid fixation and maintain a natural, one-piece motion. He also encourages keeping legs and arms in sync and avoiding the concept of one-piece action. The speaker uses examples like hammering a nail and swinging a baseball bat to illustrate proper swing mechanics. He also addresses the contradiction in golf literature regarding one-piece action and emphasizes the importance of maintaining a consistent swing. 00:50:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar video, the speaker emphasizes the importance of maintaining the spine's natural alignment during the golf swing. He argues against twisting or bending the spine, as this can lead to injury. Instead, he suggests focusing on the shoulders turning and the hips pivoting. The speaker also mentions that Bobby Jones had a larger pivot than most golfers and that the body should be thought of as the carrier of the club. He encourages golfers to try different techniques to find what works best for them, even if it doesn't always result in a perfect shot. The speaker also shares his personal experience with golf injuries and emphasizes the importance of proper timing and anatomy in the swing. 00:55:00 In this section of the Mehlhorn Golf Seminar video, the instructor demonstrates a golf swing with minimal armed action, emphasizing the importance of keeping the knees involved in the swing. He mentions that he has taken hundreds of shots with this technique and encourages the viewer to focus on their knees during the swing. The instructor asserts that this approach results in a swing with hardly any armed action.
@karinamarshall513
@karinamarshall513 8 ай бұрын
Jim appears to have massive shoulders
@jpworks2
@jpworks2 Жыл бұрын
What is the poem on his card?
@tegra10able
@tegra10able 8 ай бұрын
Wild bill said "It isnt a good poem but it makes a lot of sense" It goes like this, The title is GolfWise. I guess im dunb Please tell me why a golf pro tells a right arm guy to let his left arm do his stuff, are other troubles not enough? You never heard a tennis pro Insist a right hand players blow be a left hand back hand swing, an obviously silly thing. So i submit my stance shoulde be on port side starting from the tee, and hence my right arm being stronger, controls the shot and makes it longer. What flaws in this there may be some, please tell me why i guess Im dumb.
@frozendivots1564
@frozendivots1564 Жыл бұрын
If you watch his prime swing, he didn’t bend his lead elbow.
@John-wg1jh
@John-wg1jh Жыл бұрын
Why is this old fart yelling at me?😮
@TheNightstalker67
@TheNightstalker67 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen this video, only the Bobby Shave videos, excellent stuff!!
@kwablatetetorsu9055
@kwablatetetorsu9055 Жыл бұрын
Self confidence
@TheNightstalker67
@TheNightstalker67 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the Arch Ward Poem he is talking about? I would love to hear it but the plane noise drowns out what he is saying.
@eggsmann594
@eggsmann594 Жыл бұрын
I think I saw a little knee 😆
@jteddy11
@jteddy11 Жыл бұрын
Anybody know the poem he talked about that he put on his business card? Would love to see it, seems Mehlhorn thought is was important.
@MontesGolf
@MontesGolf Жыл бұрын
Need to know where you obtained this video since it is mine.
@MontesGolf
@MontesGolf 9 ай бұрын
Still waiting
@goathumper111
@goathumper111 8 ай бұрын
@@MontesGolf Do you have more or better videos of Mehlhorn? Not much is available.
@derp6236
@derp6236 3 ай бұрын
Not anymore
@CB-rv2lj
@CB-rv2lj Жыл бұрын
dude that lady had a gorgeous swing my god.
@flipgentry3862
@flipgentry3862 Жыл бұрын
What was the poem at 18:58?
@lightshadow44
@lightshadow44 Жыл бұрын
It’s Sunday , New Year’s Day and listening to this man is like going to church…..putting everything aside but truth. Playing off a 4 index for 15 years, I really worked hard on positions about 5 years ago and have only broken 85 possibly 5 times! Listening and watching videos trying to find the key move. My swing became mechanical and although I hit the ball farther than ever, I have shot dozens of scores above 95 and at least a dozen above 100! True that most of my high scores can be attributed to several repulsive holes every round ( 7’s, 8’s and plus 10’s) . I have gotten away from natural golf and my true dynamic ability. As former college baseball Player and basketball player, natural rhythm and movement was quite easy. Now, stuck in mechanics, it’s lost! Never one to make resolutions I will take this man’s gospel to free up my mind and hope to return to good golf. I do understand principals of movement being a kinesiology major 40 years ago but also know that the mind must taught through 1000’s of repetitions that few can afford . Sound confusing? After viewing this lesson I will return to natural Golf ! Happy New Year!
@John-wg1jh
@John-wg1jh Жыл бұрын
Wow. Did you bang Marilyn Monroe and cure cancer, too?😮
@jamestown4867
@jamestown4867 Жыл бұрын
lightshadow44: I’m 69, played around 5-7 index over 45 years and got to single digits within one year (one magical, memorable free year after college working P/T at a golf shop and accumulating over 420 scorecards.) Around 60, my drives went from 108mph/250-60 carry down to 90mph/200 carry. My PGA approved swing of left side control, wrenching the spine, flat lead foot, and other kinesiologically unsound contortions needed examination. Thanks to the internet and a brief time on Quora, I found Joe Dante and sparse information on Wild Bill. Then a little later I found Mike Austin and my swing is now MA with a bit of Joe and Bill. For three years I too struggled because of the demons haunting me from the old swing. At the range, fine but the MA method is visually similar but drastically different in application and I had similar blow up holes - 3, 4, 5 over par. Finally after 4 years struggling to even break 90, it all came together; I found my lifetime swing and at age 67, I was finally hitting honest 300+ drives, carrying 260-280. Then last year I had and NDE from a bout with pneumonia. It’s also been over 3 years since covid that I haven’t been to my bi-weekly gym and pool sessions. I can now only carry 240 with my Sunday best and my 7 irons only fly 135. I had to move to the regular tees to be able to shoot 70’s but I’m more accurate than I’ve ever been, flighting the ball at will and even braving the low flighted spinning wedges. I use Bill’s image of a long hammer pounding a nail at whatever angle required. That all alone cured my overswinging, wrist breakdown tendencies and made the body movements so easy and natural. Bill talks about hip slide which may contradict Mike but it seems that to make the move Bill displays, a certain amount of shift is necessary. Mike makes the analogy of a woman’s walk with hips shifting side to side. Bobby Shave does a drill imitating the action of the wrists flicking a weight at the end of a string. Then he talks about hammering a nail. I of course use the hammer and nail image but flinging a rock on a string I find gets me scooping the ball. Any thoughts regarding the hip slide and wrist action? Fairways and greens! PenguinGolf
@lawrencecirillo3233
@lawrencecirillo3233 4 ай бұрын
How’d the last year go?
@MontesGolf
@MontesGolf 2 жыл бұрын
So, I must ask, where did you get this video? I assume it was either from a copy cat teacher named Michael Hebron who took the vhs as I had from the original created Al Tomacello, or Ken Juhn who I gave a copy to. Just curious???
@Valvey789
@Valvey789 2 жыл бұрын
Like Jimmy Ballard, he frames his teaching as a debunking of prevailing notions of the swing. But all modern tour pros twist their spines in order to create width, leverage, and to activate their lats. Twisting like this is an unnatural action, for which many of his common sense nostrums don't apply. Baseball players don't wind themselves into knots as they wait for the ball. If they did, there would be as many batting instruction videos on YT as there are for golf. That being said, Melhorn's method is great for weekend players who want a simple, accurate swing.
@Golf2025
@Golf2025 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen these guys before…how tall is Bill? I’m 5.10…I bet he his 6 4…when u figure in the arc, golf is easy-ish at the 5 handi level… just ask @Romo +2 level.. Bill was a +4 in my opinion…the elite level golf is transitioning into D1 baseball and other D1 type of athletes…tall, strong and very powerful
@2424rege
@2424rege Жыл бұрын
5.10
@davidhenryandthemysterons3220
@davidhenryandthemysterons3220 2 жыл бұрын
Golf has not changed much over the years 🤠
@robertroth6521
@robertroth6521 2 жыл бұрын
Looks li’e Wild Bill Melhorn
@kevinsmith2747
@kevinsmith2747 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t necessarily disagree with his comments, but spending 55 min to explain something that could be summed up in two sentences is ridiculous. I like studying George Knudson and his explanation of the swing motion. I believe he achieved the highest level of understanding the golf swing.
@markrusso8546
@markrusso8546 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect takeaway. Absolutely perfect.
@markrusso8546
@markrusso8546 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't seem too concerned about holding lag
@markrusso8546
@markrusso8546 Жыл бұрын
You miss my point
@Golf2025
@Golf2025 2 жыл бұрын
He is dragging the handle… I knew it..
@stevegolliher3769
@stevegolliher3769 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best ball strikers of all time. Wild Bill melhorn
@bh5606
@bh5606 2 жыл бұрын
..interesting..
@bjohnson515
@bjohnson515 2 жыл бұрын
Slow it down ..... pause then > button frame by frame.....low left finish is crazy. That to me is the proof of an "over the top" type move finish.
@jacksaintjack2844
@jacksaintjack2844 2 жыл бұрын
He is using his bent elbows as additional power levers. He bends them at the top and on the way down, straightens them which produces more power. The trick is in the sequence. Straighten the elbows and then uncock the wrists in that sequence. It is amazing the speed that can be generated without all of the twisting, turning, and body contortions that hurt our anatomies. This guy figured it out.
@golfingmadeeasy
@golfingmadeeasy 9 ай бұрын
Happens naturally. We couldn't possibly do it consistently on our own.,
@adrianleman5158
@adrianleman5158 2 жыл бұрын
Think the needle is stuck😁
@adrianleman5158
@adrianleman5158 2 жыл бұрын
A great historical video,nice to see wild Bill on film.
@markhumphrey8894
@markhumphrey8894 2 жыл бұрын
33:29. There it is; me in a nut shell. Practice hitting tees on the ground then go to the ball. Great idea! I take a divot 3 inches behind the ball and now I have a sponge between the club and ball. No energy left to carry the ball. I'm so fixated with swing hard and hitting it far. Can't wait to get to driving range this Spring and try this. Check the dang ego at the door in order to improve your game.
@soggybottomhikes6915
@soggybottomhikes6915 3 жыл бұрын
There's definitely some Mehlhorn in Hogan's swing.
@benjaminsarmiento8150
@benjaminsarmiento8150 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing content!
@steveng8727
@steveng8727 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the year of this great seminar?
@thomasprejean2107
@thomasprejean2107 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see him and mike Austin have a debate on the swing.
@robsaxepga
@robsaxepga 3 жыл бұрын
where did you find these?? Thanks for posting.
@robsaxepga
@robsaxepga 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what year was this from? I'm guessing late 20's?
@TheCampsies
@TheCampsies 3 жыл бұрын
Clip would likely get more views if entitled, "Hogan Slow Mo Driver"
@beegee22
@beegee22 3 жыл бұрын
I love his thoughts on sweeping the ball rather than taking a divot. I hate seeing beautiful turf carved up as though every golfer was out digging for grubs.
@8uvrays
@8uvrays 3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I was writing about a tennis shot I could hit I called the magic wand forehand. The magic part of this was it seemed the entire stroke was almost all in the forearms. And I was castigating myself because I knew all I hand to do was swing with the same feel. But I could not do it because I had this list of things I had to do first. He says quite early on that 75% of the entire golf swing is from the right forearm. That and almost everything I heard seemed to be something I had noted in my best swings but was only able to implement when I was very young. But not from a flexible body, from a flexible mind. Thumb and index finger grip, that makes perfect sense, but that is the direct opposite of the first thing I was ever taught.
@ag358
@ag358 3 жыл бұрын
If only wild bill could've putt well, from tee to green he was superb. What he said about rough is true, in his day they made jokes about losing their caddie in the rough. Pre-1951 you couldn't lift clean and place on the green, or special rules in the fairway. Bobby jone's 66 in England shocked the British isles, it would be like shooting a 55 in a major championship only the rough they had then was very punishing.