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@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
The American Association for the Advancement of Science statement on evolution: "Evolution is one of the most robust and widely accepted principles of modern science. It is the foundation for research in a wide array of scientific fields and, accordingly, a core element in science education. The AAAS Board of Directors is deeply concerned, therefore, about legislation and policies recently introduced in a number of states and localities that would undermine the teaching of evolution and deprive students of the education they need to be informed and productive citizens in an increasingly technological, global community. Although their language and strategy differ, all of these proposals, if passed, would weaken science education. The AAAS Board of Directors strongly opposes these attacks on the integrity of science and science education. They threaten not just the teaching of evolution, but students’ understanding of the biological, physical, and geological sciences."
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
The lie of creationism cannot be asserted or defended with honesty.
@moses777exodus
@moses777exodus 2 жыл бұрын
The illogical, irrational, and unreasonable position of claiming that there is No Universal Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence (i.e. Atheism): The fallacy is the assumption that something is true (i.e. Universal Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence does not exist) unless proven otherwise. The Claimant making a negative claim (i.e. Universal Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence does not exist) cannot logically, rationally, and reasonably prove nonexistence. Because, for a Claimant to know that X does not exist would require the Claimant to possess 100% knowledge of all things with 100% certainty and 100% accuracy (i.e. omniscience). Even mainstream secular scientists claim that approx. 95% of the Universe is still unknown (i.e. Dark Energy and Dark Matter). Of the remaining 5% of the Universe, only 0.0035% exists within the visible light spectrum which the human eye is capable of observing. Therefore, there is much, much more that humanity does not know about the Universe and Reality than it does know. Based on just this information, the position of claiming to be Atheist is shown to be illogical, irrational and unreasonable. *_“… Every one who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.”_* Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), founder of modern physics (Theory of Relativity inter alia) and 1921 Nobel prize winner *_“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind (i.e. Observer). This mind is the matrix of all matter.”_* Max Plank (the Father of Quantum Physics) The fact that DNA / genes (biological coded information) exists at all shows that a Consciousness-'Intelligence-Mind' is involved in the initial introduction and subsequent propagation of living systems. Un-directed random material natural processes have never been observed in nature or experimentally demonstrated to be capable of producing Functional / Coded / Digital information such as that required for biological systems, even at the most primitive levels of biological life. Laws of the Universe exist Independent of anyone's personal beliefs in the existence of the Laws of the Universe. Just as man-made laws govern society globally, Universal Laws govern the entire Universe. Un-directed random material natural processes have never been observed or experimentally demonstrated to be capable of producing any form of laws. As scientifically confirmed, non-material laws are the product of only Mind / Consciousness / Intelligence.
@moses777exodus
@moses777exodus 2 жыл бұрын
​Modern Quantum Physics has shown that reality is based on probability: ​ A statistical impossibility is defined as “a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument." The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80. The probability of just one (1) functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the cell was not formed by un-directed random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that un-directed random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.) Of all the physical laws and constants, just the Cosmological Constant alone is tuned to a level of 1/10^120; not to mention the fine-tuning of the Mass-Energy distribution of early universe which is 1/10^10^123. Therefore, in the fine-tuning argument, it would be more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the multi-verse is not the correct answer. On the other hand, it has been scientifically proven numerous times that Consciousness does indeed collapse the wave function to cause information waves of probability/potentiality to become particle/matter with 1/1 probability. A rational and reasonable person could therefore conclude that the answer is consciousness. A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what some of the world’s top scientists ‘must’ believe in because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, biased, narrow, limiting, materialistic ideology / worldview. Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic, subjective, biased, incomplete ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millennia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by observation of the universe and discoveries in Quantum Physics.)
@SamahAmber
@SamahAmber Жыл бұрын
Interesting points, but they don't prove a creator exists. Also, assuming evolution is wrong, we have no idea what is the truth of our existence is. Simulation, God, we cannot know. Disproving evolution doesn’t prove something else.
@Mrm1985100
@Mrm1985100 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This was great.
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
Your confirmation bias is showing.
@Mrm1985100
@Mrm1985100 2 жыл бұрын
@@garywalker447 Hardly. I found it to be a really great lecture.
@Mrm1985100
@Mrm1985100 2 жыл бұрын
@@garywalker447 He's brilliant here and what he says is profound and beautiful.
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
Meyer is a fraud and his "Intelligent Design" is pseudoscience garbage.
@Texas75023
@Texas75023 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's some convincing baselessness you got goin' on there. Intelligent Design is the best explanation of the INFORMATION IN DNA that controls sequential, timed events as well as the manufacture of the basic molecular machines required for every aspect of Biological Life Forms that exist. Go read Signature in the Cell. Try real hard to UNDERSTAND it before you dismiss it out of frustration because it is WAY over your head. Read for comprehension before you toss ignorant invectives. Maybe you should also think about the myth of un-directed evolution, and the literal impossibility that it could have happened. Mathematically there is simply no possibility that any life could have evolved from raw atoms in the short span of the age of this young Universe . . . the ONLY Universe. Have you ever heard that an infinite # of Monkeys with Typewriters would eventually type all the works of Shapespeare? People don't understand just how BIG Infinity is for that statement to have any smidgen of possibility. But then no one asks WHICH DIMENSION of Space-Time is INFINITE? Go ahead, guess. BZZZ. NONE of them. TIME is short, and SPACE is very limited when compared to INFINITY.
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
@@Texas75023 ID is pseudoscience garbage and has the same scientific standing as the flat Earth. Grow up child. ID is to Science what a bicycle is to a fish.
@mcmanustony
@mcmanustony 2 жыл бұрын
@@Texas75023 He's right, Meyer is not a scientist- he's a full time activist at a right wing Christian pressure group. Intelligent design explains nothing. "machine" is a loaded term. It is by definition designed. "Mathematically there is simply no possibility "- can you show me this mathematics?
@Texas75023
@Texas75023 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcmanustony It would be my pleasure. I examined the math years ago and made a video about it. The Legos of God - Part 5 - The 4 Infinities kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKmThaugnNecqq8 The video uses a 1,000 long character string for the Math. But the simple reality is that if *EVERY ATOM* were a Monkey, with a Typewriter, and for EVERY SECOND since the Big Bang they had continuously typed EVERY Second, one is only talking about 3 * 10 ^ 100 "Monkey-Seconds" or possible experiments for imagined Evolutionary "processes" to have produced "something". That is roughly the amount of time to type *EVERY POSSIBLE* examine of a random string of ONLY Length 55 characters. (Assuming the 70 Characters I detail in the video.) The Math is nearly as horrific for Evolution with only 4 characters of DNA.
@ukcadjockey
@ukcadjockey 2 жыл бұрын
@@Texas75023 *Intelligent Design is the best explanation of the INFORMATION IN DNA* It doesn't offer an explanation, it just says "god did it"
@wilhelmlorenz5852
@wilhelmlorenz5852 3 жыл бұрын
👉🤔✨🔆✨ I LOVE THE WAY DR.MEYER POINTS ☝️TO AN INTELLIGENT 🧠😊 DESIGN WITHOUT USING THE WORD"GOD"or BIBLE 👈🙏👉 IT'S TO BAD THAT HE HAS TO DO THIS!!👈🧠🙏👉WE COULD SAVE MUCH TIME AND EFFORT IF HE OR ANYONE ELSE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS 👈🙏👉GOD BLESS HIM AND EVERYONE LISTENING 🎧🙏🎧❤️😉🦋💥👈🧠✨
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
Meyer is a fraud and his "Intelligent Design" is pseudoscience garbage.
@ralphdimas5421
@ralphdimas5421 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to learning by God's people who can feed me to come against all lies belt of truth
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 3 жыл бұрын
The lie of creationism cannot be asserted or defended with honesty.
@Mrm1985100
@Mrm1985100 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a lie.
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mrm1985100 Yes, creationism is a lie. We have observed Evolution.
@Desertphile
@Desertphile 3 жыл бұрын
Evolution designs life. =SHRUG!= No one cares if people dislike this fact.
@gcbaileyiii
@gcbaileyiii 3 жыл бұрын
Improbable Planet
@gcbaileyiii
@gcbaileyiii 3 жыл бұрын
See Hugh Ross
@gcbaileyiii
@gcbaileyiii 3 жыл бұрын
Stop with the trinity. God cannot die and Jesus definitely did. He himself said he was the son of God, not Jah himself.
@gcbaileyiii
@gcbaileyiii 3 жыл бұрын
Singularities are a necessary aspect of existence, some things do have to happen all at once for things to work properly afterward. Creation of the universe, origin of life, instantiation of human consciousness ...
@gcbaileyiii
@gcbaileyiii 3 жыл бұрын
Ecclesiastes 3:11
@gcbaileyiii
@gcbaileyiii 3 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest ironies is that, at the root of most maudlin maundering in support of atheism, I find a defective theodicy. Defective because it ignores the free will of man and his role in bringing down the consequences of the fall.
@annapaula3352
@annapaula3352 4 жыл бұрын
. It is so right. Jesus is the creator of all things.
@ukcadjockey
@ukcadjockey 3 жыл бұрын
That's not what he says
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
Meyer is a fraud and his "Intelligent Design" is pseudoscience garbage.
@mcmanustony
@mcmanustony 2 жыл бұрын
@@ukcadjockey It is what he says behind closed doors. Read the Wedge Document. Meyer is a lying crook and nothing more.
@ukcadjockey
@ukcadjockey 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcmanustony yep read it. Very sinister.
@kenregan6308
@kenregan6308 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is always brilliant. I highly recommend subscribing to his KZbin channel and reading his books. Here are some additional excellent sources chock full of SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCES that Darwinism isn't even remotely possible SCIENTIFICALLY & 'Theory Of Evolution' is and always has been a tall tale (actually an out and out lie) and absolute rubbish. In actuality this is TRULY A CREATED WORLD. ANSWERS IN GENESIS - Founded 1994 answersingenesis.org/ CREATION.com - Founded 1977 creation.com/ INSTITUTE FOR CREATION RESEARCH - Founded 1970 www.icr.org/homepage/ Each are decades old organizations comprised of PhD. Scientists that have written THOUSANDS OF ARTICLES & VIDEOS that tackle questions that we all have about the Origin Of Life, The Origin Of The Universe, Why Evolution Is Untrue, etc. Each of the above sites has a SEARCH BAR at the top so that you can plug in the subject that you want to understand better. Your search will populate multiple SCIENTIFIC articles specific to your request, written by PhD. credential scientists in a manner that is understandable. ALL FOR FREE. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself further by time to visit the above mentioned sites! Also, tell others that you love and care about. You will be VERY happy you did!! Remember, LIFE IS SHORT AND ETERNITY IS FOREVER. Where you and your loved ones spend it is THE very most important thing there is.
@ukcadjockey
@ukcadjockey 3 жыл бұрын
*Remember, LIFE IS SHORT AND ETERNITY IS FOREVER. Where you and your loved ones spend it is THE very most important thing there is.* That has nothing to do with what meyer, behe or tour say, it's just your particular religious belief tacked onto the end of it.
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
Meyer is a fraud and his "Intelligent Design" is pseudoscience garbage.
@truthseeker7463
@truthseeker7463 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that chance caused evolution? Can chance do God's work? Watch to decide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3fCi52LqbKVe5o
@GameCookerUSRocks
@GameCookerUSRocks 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone themselves don't need to watch lectures like this to clearly see Evolution is non-sense. Just look at what it is telling you you must believe. When in a human sense only one way of thinking is allowed that automatically tells you something is wrong. When it comes to the Bible it is God's word and can be looked at as a supreme authority. And people even don't understand what the scriptures teach as I keep hearing and reading people say it does not allow free will when it clearly does. There are just serious consequences to your choices. God is just being honest and open about those consequences. That shows only one thing. God is honest and he is Love. He doesn't want you to perish. Jesus didn't die for nothing. He died for each one of us to be saved.
@walkergarya
@walkergarya 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone themselves don't need to watch lectures like this to clearly see Evolution is non-sense. <Actually, the Theory of Evolution is the foundational principal of all modern Biology and it is supported by evidence from fossils, genetics, embryology and more. ID is supported by frauds, fools and liars. > Just look at what it is telling you you must believe. <He is a liar. > When in a human sense only one way of thinking is allowed that automatically tells you something is wrong. <Sorry but the Theory of Evolution is supported by evidence and has survived 160 years of scientific testing. ID did not get past the first test for science. It is NOT science. > When it comes to the Bible it is God's word <Prove it.> and can be looked at as a supreme authority. <Nope. NO document that is self contradictory can be true. The bible is also contradicted by undeniable evidence and major stories in the bible have NO supporting evidence. > And people even don't understand what the scriptures teach as I keep hearing and reading people say it does not allow free will when it clearly does. <I do not care. The bible is not divinely inspired or the word of your phony god, it was written by barbaric men and it is bad science, bad morality and bad history. > There are just serious consequences to your choices. <That is true, but the false consequences in your bible have nothing to do with them.> God is just being honest and open about those consequences. That shows only one thing. God is honest and he is Love. <I call bullshit. > He doesn't want you to perish. Jesus didn't die for nothing. He died for each one of us to be saved. <You are long on dogma and very short on evidence. >
@renehernandez558
@renehernandez558 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant I’m a fan of his because it make common sense.
@walkergarya
@walkergarya 4 жыл бұрын
Intelligent Design is pseudoscience garbage, it has no basis in reality.
@renehernandez558
@renehernandez558 4 жыл бұрын
walkergarya how?
@walkergarya
@walkergarya 4 жыл бұрын
@@renehernandez558 Barbara Forrest's expert witness report for the Dover trial: "Conclusions about the intelligent design creationist movement. My area of expertise is the nature and strategy of the intelligent design (ID) creationist movement. Based on the research I have done, I have concluded that its program is a fundamentally religious one. This conclusion is based primarily on ID leaders’ and their supporters’ views of it as stated in their own words. It is also based upon their total rejection of naturalism. Anti-naturalism is an integral part of ID. Its proponents reject not only philosophical naturalism (the metaphysical view that nothing exists beyond the natural world) but also the naturalistic methodology of science (the scientific procedural protocol of seeking only natural explanations of natural phenomena). ID’s rejection of naturalism in any form logically entails its appeal to the only alternative, supernaturalism, as a putatively scientific explanation for natural phenomena. This makes ID a religious belief. In addition, my research reveals that ID is not science, but the newest variant of traditional American creationism. With only a few exceptions, it continues the usual complaints of creationists against the theory of evolution and comprises virtually all the elements of traditional creationism."
@renehernandez558
@renehernandez558 4 жыл бұрын
walkergarya which book did you quote this and spewing out as your own thought? You make no sense and this argument is weak and lack any logic. Your like the guy from the movie goodwill hunting quoting shit from obscure papers and making it seem like it’s your own words, pathetic that make no sense. Have some thought of your own.lol
@kenregan6308
@kenregan6308 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is always brilliant. I highly recommend subscribing to his KZbin channel and reading his books. He explains things in a manner that all can understand and cites evidence to backup what the says. Here are some additional excellent sources chock full of SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCES that Darwinism isn't even remotely possible SCIENTIFICALLY & 'Theory Of Evolution' is and always has been a tall tale (actually an out and out lie) & absolute rubbish.and instead this is TRULY A CREATED WORLD. ANSWERS IN GENESIS - Founded 1994 answersingenesis.org/ CREATION.com - Founded 1977 creation.com/ INSTITUTE FOR CREATION RESEARCH - Founded 1970 www.icr.org/homepage/ Each are decades old organizations comprised of PhD. Scientists that have written THOUSANDS OF ARTICLES & VIDEOS that tackle questions that we all have about the Origin Of Life, The Origin Of The Universe, Why Evolution Is Untrue, etc. Each of the above sites has a SEARCH BAR at the top so that you can plug in the subject that you want to understand better. Your search will populate multiple SCIENTIFIC articles specific to your request, written by PhD. credential scientists in a manner that is understandable. ALL FOR FREE. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself further by time to visit the above mentioned sites! Also, tell others that you love and care about. You will be VERY happy you did!! Remember, LIFE IS SHORT AND ETERNITY IS FOREVER. Where you and your loved ones spend it is THE very most important thing there is!!
@walkergarya
@walkergarya 4 жыл бұрын
Meyer is a fraud.
@kenregan6308
@kenregan6308 4 жыл бұрын
@@walkergarya Okay Troll, or is it Bot?
@walkergarya
@walkergarya 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenregan6308 Fine, you can kiss Meyer's ass all you want, does not mean he is right.
@nurullahbintemohammadali5634
@nurullahbintemohammadali5634 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/il7IeIWApL5kqcU
@timnixon4976
@timnixon4976 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if someone from Tyndale Philosophy could post Professor Clark's list of quotations (the quotations on the hand-out) on here, please?
@k_alex
@k_alex 5 жыл бұрын
Dr Meyer is a phenomenal scientist and much more than an advocate for intelligent design. He is, through his bright conduct and deep respect for science and the history of science (which his knowledge about it reveals) reviving the tradition of truth seeking in science, which science always should have been doing. Unfortunately, we have been for quite some time now in an era where science is being held hostage by followers of Darwin, not allowing any valid criticism to exist in their institutions. But, the times are changing.
@walkergarya
@walkergarya 4 жыл бұрын
Barbara Forrest's expert witness report for the Dover trial: "Conclusions about the intelligent design creationist movement. My area of expertise is the nature and strategy of the intelligent design (ID) creationist movement. Based on the research I have done, I have concluded that its program is a fundamentally religious one. This conclusion is based primarily on ID leaders’ and their supporters’ views of it as stated in their own words. It is also based upon their total rejection of naturalism. Anti-naturalism is an integral part of ID. Its proponents reject not only philosophical naturalism (the metaphysical view that nothing exists beyond the natural world) but also the naturalistic methodology of science (the scientific procedural protocol of seeking only natural explanations of natural phenomena). ID’s rejection of naturalism in any form logically entails its appeal to the only alternative, supernaturalism, as a putatively scientific explanation for natural phenomena. This makes ID a religious belief. In addition, my research reveals that ID is not science, but the newest variant of traditional American creationism. With only a few exceptions, it continues the usual complaints of creationists against the theory of evolution and comprises virtually all the elements of traditional creationism."
@igotstaknow
@igotstaknow 5 жыл бұрын
Every physical thing must exist according to design and must react according to design. I would like to see materialists create science projects without using intelligent design. Make a software app to simulate evolution without using intelligent design to make the program code.
@walkergarya
@walkergarya 4 жыл бұрын
Barbara Forrest's expert witness report for the Dover trial: "Conclusions about the intelligent design creationist movement. My area of expertise is the nature and strategy of the intelligent design (ID) creationist movement. Based on the research I have done, I have concluded that its program is a fundamentally religious one. This conclusion is based primarily on ID leaders’ and their supporters’ views of it as stated in their own words. It is also based upon their total rejection of naturalism. Anti-naturalism is an integral part of ID. Its proponents reject not only philosophical naturalism (the metaphysical view that nothing exists beyond the natural world) but also the naturalistic methodology of science (the scientific procedural protocol of seeking only natural explanations of natural phenomena). ID’s rejection of naturalism in any form logically entails its appeal to the only alternative, supernaturalism, as a putatively scientific explanation for natural phenomena. This makes ID a religious belief. In addition, my research reveals that ID is not science, but the newest variant of traditional American creationism. With only a few exceptions, it continues the usual complaints of creationists against the theory of evolution and comprises virtually all the elements of traditional creationism."
@elijaguy
@elijaguy 5 жыл бұрын
What is the origin of the intelligent designer? How does it construct the observable world?
@dou40006
@dou40006 5 жыл бұрын
This guy and his books to promote ID has been massively debunked by the scientific community and for good reasons : ID is a flawed and fraudulent theory that doesn’t have its place in science , period ! It is religion that doesn’t want to tell its name. All the réthoric of thi Meyer is based on I accurate statements about fossils, genetic and biologie. Don’t loose your time
@pannonia77
@pannonia77 5 жыл бұрын
The dishonesty of ID (i.e. talking about design when they think about creation) is also clear from Paley's famous watchmaker example. If you walk on the shore and see a watch, you don't say look, this was not produced by Nature, it was designed by an intelligence, rather you would say, this was not produced by Nature, it was PRODUCED by an intelligent being. Which presupposes that this object must have been designed. So if ID cannot or will not say anything about how various life forms were created, it is because then it would be clear that ID is just a form of creationism, i.e. a religious and not scientific theory, the statement that life seems to be designed is an empty statement. Richard Dawkins admits that life is the result of entirely natural processes (i.e. without designer and creator) which looks like as if it had been designed. But if you cannot point to any proofs that life and each species were created specifically by God, then ID is pointless. For design requires someone who realises this design. If you cannot say anything about the act of realising the design, then it means that life only SEEMS to be designed, but it was not.
@pannonia77
@pannonia77 5 жыл бұрын
I find the very term intelligent design misleading and dishonest. Why? The question is not whether the first living cells were designed, the question is how they came about. Designing something is just the first step, design does not make anything real. You have to make the thing on the basis of the design. So if Meyer thinks life and the various forms of life were designed and did not evolve through natural processes, then he should say something about the way how the design becomes reality. It is clear why Meyer - or other advocates of ID - don't talk about it. Because if life cannot have evolved through natural processes, then a supernatural agent must have CREATED life, and if you deny evolution then this (or these) supernatural agent(s) must have CREATED each individual species during the history of life on Earth. So unless you can demonstrate that life was CREATED by one or more supernatural beings, the argument that life seems to be designed is entirely beside the point. I think ID is dishonest, because they must know this, nevertheless they continue to talk about design and keep silent about creation (the only possible way of realising the design), because they try to present their "theory" as distinct from creationism. So they have religious and not scientific goals, but disguise this religious agenda as science, because they want to get their "theory" taught in American public schools, but American constitution forbids to teach religious theories in the science classes.
@CharlesHenryIII
@CharlesHenryIII 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty nerdy stuff but I really appreciated the presentation. I especially liked Stephen Meyer's careful reasoning used to explain why academia continues to support Darwin's theory of evolution. One hundred fifty years of academic pontification, yet not a shred of evidence to support this old and tired theory. What contributions to humanity have come from this theory except the hardening of the hearts of those it has influenced in the intervening years? Think of all the advances made in virtually every other field of science except those with the Darwinian millstone hung around its neck. Darwinism is dead! Let's give it a proper burial.
@GeoCalifornian
@GeoCalifornian 6 жыл бұрын
Intelligent Engineering Design is the only credible idea behind all organic biological life. /Evolution is non-science at its foundation.
@eddie0009
@eddie0009 6 жыл бұрын
How is big bang science? I got my degree in evolution and to this day I don't see science in this theory. Never appeal to science when it cannot be observed, tested, falsified. When it doesn't have any of these attributes yet it is believed militantly, it is a religion.
@krisc6216
@krisc6216 6 жыл бұрын
How can you look at the shape of a dragon fly, that has a camouflage technique to sneak upon its prey of which the American Navy can only dream about, and assume this is not designed? Before debating the questions who or what or why, can we at least agree upon the fact that there is a specific and intentional drive behind all of creation?
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 6 жыл бұрын
The lie of creationism cannot be asserted or defended with honesty.
@BibleResearchTools
@BibleResearchTools 6 жыл бұрын
Dumb Like Stick, aka Gary Walker, wrote, "The lie of creationism cannot be asserted or defended with honesty." Why would anyone in their right mind believe a rambling, low-information type like you, Dumb Like Stick? Dan
@vheilshorn
@vheilshorn 5 жыл бұрын
.....hopes Gary Walker.
@Mrm1985100
@Mrm1985100 2 жыл бұрын
The entire cosmos teaches us there is a creator and this is understood through basic intuition.
@garywalker447
@garywalker447 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mrm1985100 Nope. Nothing about the cosmos implies a "creator".
@Mrm1985100
@Mrm1985100 2 жыл бұрын
@@garywalker447 You're spiritually calloused and hardened.
@RobinYork123
@RobinYork123 6 жыл бұрын
America will soon be destroyed. One Sunday morning in June, 1933, God gave seven major continuous visions to His prophet William Marrion Branham (Fulfilling Malachi 4:5 + Matthew 17:11 + Revelation 10:7 and other scriptures) Five of the seven continuous visions, have already come to pass. THE SEVENTH VISION. “The last and seventh vision was wherein I heard a most terrible explosion. As I turned to look I saw nothing but debris, craters, and smoke all over the land of America.” America will soon be destroyed !!! The, “Elijah anointing,” (Concerning the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ) is used “TWICE.” The first time 2,000 years ago, when God sent John the Baptist, then again in this day. At each, “Coming of the Lord,” there is an Elijah prophet who precedes that, “Coming.” Jesus said concerning John the Baptist. Matthew 3:3. For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Elijah, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. John, “Prepared the way for the Lord,” John did NOT “Restore anything,” as that which would need to be restored, (The full understanding of the whole Bible,) had not yet been given. This scripture concerns the Elijah prophet for, “THIS DAY.” Matthew 17:11. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall FIRST COME, and RESTORE all things. God has fulfilled the above scripture in THIS DAY. This scripture also predicts the Elijah prophet for “This day”..... Malachi 4:5. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. This Elijah prophet comes just before, “The coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord,” which happens in this day. We are now living in the last days, God has kept His word and sent that prophet, thereby “Restoring” His word to His Bride. God has raised the dead on FIVE occasions through His chosen vessel. God was photographed SIX times, (Veiled in the form of the Pillar of Fire) with His prophet. God`s chosen vessel was William Marrion Branham. Check out William Branham, God`s “Vindicated Prophet” for the End Time. God raised the dead FIVE times through this ministry. The GREAT PILLAR OF FIRE was photographed SIX times with His Prophet. One “True Prophet” when there are many “False Prophets.” These and other “Prophetical scriptures” fulfilled: Malachi 4:5. Matthew 17:11. Revelation 10:7. Revelation 3:14. Revelation 1:16 - 20. Revelation 2:1. Revelation 3:1. Watch this amazing testimony on KZbin: Ed Byskal - I am a witness (Testimony on William Branham)
@kensmith8152
@kensmith8152 6 жыл бұрын
I would like him to discuss the philosophy of the bad hair day! Lol
@tracik1277
@tracik1277 6 жыл бұрын
Ken Smith there are some serious bad hair days going on both on stage and in the audience.
@colindowson7615
@colindowson7615 6 жыл бұрын
Meyer has no training in Evolutionary Science,so makes schoolboy errors and tells lies,don't trust him,Folks,he has been refuted by leading Experts,he puts Metaphysics before Facts!! The Universe at the micro structure is infinite,so needs no creator to move from nothing to some thing,that's the fallacies of the red herring, begging the question and composition! ID is false as information isn't evidence for intelligence,that's a myth,form and function, efficiency and necessity,chaos and Complexity Science,these explain why we have order not God or ID
@garychen2048
@garychen2048 6 жыл бұрын
If Pastafarian "invent" a new kind of Sociology, would you let them teach in your classroom?
@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831
@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831 7 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the presentation, but felt that David Glass underestimated the neo-Darwinian claims of randomness and adaption by natural means. I agree that "the natural means" COULD HAVE been set up if we grant a powerful deity is behind life...but really? That is not what even theistic evolutionists say. Even David showed that coming up with a "possible" alternative hypothesis isn't enough. You need evidence supporting said alternative H. So i was incredibly delighted to hear Stephen Meyer state my objection in a far more eloquent way. Besides, we dont need to go along with the neo-Darwinists...let their theory crumble under the weight of evidence. As the old-guard Darwinists die out, new theories of evolution will rise.
@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831
@jvt_redbaronspeaks4831 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastically interesting talk. Intelligent Design should focus on maximal grand design but then has to face theodicy. I say a deistic approach avoids that problem. I dont think religion and intelligent design must meet at the top. But blow my socks off...modern Economics is mathematical theodicy?... what a concept! I think he is on to something there.
@jeromehorwitz2460
@jeromehorwitz2460 7 жыл бұрын
Darwin's theory has been corroborated by 150 years of evidence gathering and observation. There is no alternative theory to compete with evolution and that shows no sign of changing. Sorry Creationists, you lost-- get over it.
@BibleResearchTools
@BibleResearchTools 6 жыл бұрын
Jerome Horwitz , you wrote, "Darwin's theory has been corroborated by 150 years of evidence gathering and observation." The problem with your assertion is that after 150 years of UNSCIENTIFIC attempts to prove evolution (rather than to falsify it,) no evidence has been found, except in the minds of evolutionists. Evolutionism has all the hallmarks of a religious cult. Dan
@Albertanator
@Albertanator 3 ай бұрын
hilarious....no it hasn't.....
@jeromehorwitz2460
@jeromehorwitz2460 3 ай бұрын
@@Albertanator Merely denying the facts won't make them go away.
@Albertanator
@Albertanator 3 ай бұрын
@@jeromehorwitz2460 No worse then you proclaiming a fait accompli for Darwin....just talk to Berlinski or Denton among others....see if you stray out of your narrow minded ways.
@jeromehorwitz2460
@jeromehorwitz2460 3 ай бұрын
@@Albertanator Name a single university with a reputable life sciences department anywhere in the world that denies evolution or takes Creationism seriously. Creationists have been banging their heads against a brick wall for 100 years, gaining zero influence in science and only losing ground with the general public.
@kevinmorgan_truth
@kevinmorgan_truth 7 жыл бұрын
It would seem that Fuller's view is that theistic evolutionists are protecting God against accusations stemming from theodicy and protecting themselves from looking stupid before non-theistic evolutionists.
@Vogda
@Vogda 7 жыл бұрын
The question here is: Why people who obviously are mentally and psychologically normal, continue to believe in a creation myth written in a book thousand years ago? This is not a case where some people just admire or respect this book or accept it as symbolic spiritual guidance, but rather believe it literally, directly, alphabetically without any deviations super seriously. Why some people possess unbelievable, high capacity for ignorance to the actual real facts? Is it possible the ancient writers of the Bible thousands of years ago and inspired by God knew all about DNA, proteins and genetic information and in fact, we the scientists are so blind/stupid failed to see how accurate is the Bible? It is obvious to me, we have a phenomenon beyond the question: is there evolution or not? It seems there is something more in this dispute, something sitting in the back in our human nature, something nobody pays attention to. However, I’ll come back to this view later in this essay. In reality, this question for the evolution was answered from the science point of view back in the end of 19th to the middle of 20th century. In present days prove for the evolution is ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMING. There are hundreds and thousands of scientific facts supporting evolution, so much, that nobody should even be in doubt. On contrary, the scientific facts supporting creationism are missing (none, zero). All creationists so-called “proves” like paleontological, genetics, informational, statistical, irreducible complexity and more, are very easy to overcome and explain scientifically. In an attempt to save it own literal understanding of Bible, a huge well-funded institution was created named “discovery institute” with one single objective: to find prove(s) supporting creationist point of view and discredit the evolution (or at least the macro-evolution). One usual approach of creationists is to explore gaps in the science where not everything is known. Such an example is the origin of life. From a scientific point of view, this problem is well explored theoretically based on numerous data we have. There is enough evidence to support the abiogenesis as the only option making real sense. However, lots of details are unknown like, what were the actual conditions in early Earth; how the RNA or RNA-like polymer actually comes to be? Unfortunately, this field of research is not well funded; it is not a priority for NIH or for NSF, except for some departments of NASA, which is a tight budget anyway. In fact, there are only a few laboratories which actually do some experiments directly to an origin of life. Any contribution to the topic is obtained from a close research which due to indirect funding for industrial biopolymer or ribosomal research for the purpose of finding new antibiotics. Lack of experimental research is a perfect opportunity for evangelical organizations and “discovery institute” to attack demonstrating how it is impossible someone to show how life originates from chemical elements. Despite all efforts, every single attempt from “discovery institute” to present proves for creationism, failed completely in front of professional scientific review and criticism. In this lecture for example, Steven Meyer is simply pathetic. The only real scientific contribution of “discovery institute” is increased debates on a public level and in addition, it clearly demonstrates the need a good proper scientific education among young people with evangelist background. Such a proper education usually is not a goal of “discovery institute” and for any evangelical organization. As less educated is a public as easy is to give them pseudo-science (BS science). “Discovery institute” does not succeed in the actual science, but it is achieving something: to give confidence among evangelical believers, which desperately feel a need for such support regardless how accurate it is. This fact seems good enough to justify its existence and philanthropic funding. If we keep in mind everything I just explained, let’s ask the same question again: Why a people, who obviously are mentally and psychologically normal, continue to believe in a creation myth literally or alphabetically especially with so well proven case for evolution? Since I was convinced that the reason for refusing the evolution is nothing to do with the science, I looked in something hidden inside our human nature: We can call it BIAS or wishful thinking because it makes us feeling better. Quick search shows description in Wikipedia, it says: “A series of experiments in the 1960s suggested that people are biased toward confirming their existing beliefs. Later work re-interpreted these results as a tendency to test ideas in a one-sided way, focusing on one possibility and ignoring alternatives. In certain situations, this tendency can bias people's conclusions. Explanations for the observed biases include wishful thinking and the limited human capacity to process information. Another explanation is that people show confirmation bias because they are weighing up the costs of being wrong, rather than investigating in a neutral, scientific way. Confirmation biases contribute to overconfidence in personal beliefs and can maintain or strengthen beliefs in the face of contrary evidence.” I wouldn’t tell it better, it is kind of rule: one is willing to believe in something that he/she wishes to believe. So, it is simple: For any creationist, is much easier and more joyful to exist in a self-generated imaginary world, instead of the actual real world. There is no way to convince someone if he/she is living in a beautiful joyful illusion. not much of critical thinking is needed. In conclusion: Most of the time evangelists blame the scientists as traitors of true God and lack of spirituality since they are to accepting the evolution as fact. For some reason, every time when I debate the evolution, the discussion usually is transformed into theological instead to be a scientific only. If you think about, it is obvious that creationists are interesting only in the theology part when he/she is debating for evolution, not in the science. I’m not in a position to give any opinion about an existence of God and spirituality. However, one thing is sure: the real God and spirituality whatever it is, must be part of the reality, otherwise is not real spirituality it is not real God.
@a-atheist
@a-atheist 7 жыл бұрын
According to a vast number of atheists, words have no inherent meaning, its all subjective. So the fact that they get butt-hurt over people in ID labeling ID "science" Is hysterical. Typical atheists playing word games, even though words don't have inherent meaning.
@sam-lz6pi
@sam-lz6pi 7 жыл бұрын
I admire Prof. Clark, but this was disappointingly rambling. It was not quite clear to me what exactly he was trying to put across.
@hjalmar.poelzig
@hjalmar.poelzig 7 жыл бұрын
Darwin's theory of evolution is universally recognized as the foundation of modern biology and is not controversial in any scientific institution in the world. It is only attacked by religious fundamentalists-- a group who are not noted for their reasonable nature.
@AtamMardes
@AtamMardes 7 жыл бұрын
+hjalmar poelzig Well said.
@BibleResearchTools
@BibleResearchTools 6 жыл бұрын
hjalmar poelzig , you wrote, "Darwin's theory of evolution is universally recognized as the foundation of modern biology and is not controversial in any scientific institution in the world." I was not aware that consensus was science. Dan
@BibleResearchTools
@BibleResearchTools 6 жыл бұрын
hjalmar poelzig, you wrote, "[Dawrin's theory of evolution] is only attacked by religious fundamentalists-- a group who are not noted for their reasonable nature.." I was under the impression that Darwin's theory was under attack by paleontologists (no transitional fossils, anywhere) and geneticists (impossibility of mutations increasing genetic information), for starters. We can add the FACT that there is no evidence whatsoever for macroevolution. Perhaps you are still clinging to "old school" dogma. Dan
@michaelogrady232
@michaelogrady232 8 жыл бұрын
It is not that the materialists have abandoned God. Rather, they have abandoned -- and rightly so! -- the false god promulgated by Protestantism. Therefore, so long as we continue to confront the materialists with this false god they will continue to reject it. The rise of atheism/materialism today is the end result of the so-called Reformation. Materialism is the ultimate end of the pride which fueled the so-called Reformers. For if a person is at liberty to reject even one divinely revealed teaching and substitute it with their own, then that person is ultimately at liberty to reject all divinely revealed teachings and even God Himself who reveals.
@misterperez459
@misterperez459 8 жыл бұрын
Evolutionists can not accept the fact something was able to create creations that they still do not know how they were made.Most of all the designer is smarter than them is and man is not the smartest thing ever.
@davidbutler1857
@davidbutler1857 7 жыл бұрын
If the designer is smarter than us, then how would we be able to tell that anything is designed?
@walkergarya
@walkergarya 8 жыл бұрын
Intelligent design is nothing more than the bastard child of creationism and NEITHER has any truth. Both are pseudoscience and have no value to understand our origins or our universe.