Frankentable Follow-Up
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@bertolaxxx
@bertolaxxx 14 сағат бұрын
The belt for this turntable needs to be 305mm (fold) by 3mm. The rotation is perfect at 33.3 and 45.2 (acceptable)
@ssnoc
@ssnoc Күн бұрын
Some people are just not mechanically inclined, they are great with electronics, but mechanical things are a completely different mindset. Older mechanics are the guys that excel fixing these turntables.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 Күн бұрын
All true statements...thanks for watching!
@robro6467
@robro6467 Күн бұрын
The TT you are servicing must be the PL-516, as the PL-518 is direct drive. Thanks for taking the time to post the video. Very helpful for how to access the pitch pot for cleaning. The PL-518 is very similar, except that there is one screw to remove, and the entire auto return assembly remains connected to the tone arm assembly.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 Күн бұрын
Doh! Need to change the title...thanks!
@markerdmann6374
@markerdmann6374 2 күн бұрын
I have a 5000a. I havent opened it up yet. How can I tell if it has the good or bad board in it? I know that the bad board is #1040, does it have numbers that I can easily see? If not where are they? Thanks!
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 2 күн бұрын
The boards are stamped. There are lots of threads on AudioKarma that address the boards with good pix - you can probably find some images of the location there.
@nsnqst
@nsnqst 2 күн бұрын
This video is very helpful; thank you for doing it. Would it be possible for you to share the list of bulb type/ size/ voltage & current rating for the dial pointer, FM stereo indicator, Phono1, Phono2 & Aux bulbs, please? Thank you
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 2 күн бұрын
6.3v 250ma for the indicators, 5v 60ma for the pointer (I believe). I usually just look at audiokarma posts or kits being sold on eBay for values...or I just buy the kits :)
@Chasing_records
@Chasing_records 2 күн бұрын
I picked one up that works for $20. It turned on and weighed a ton so I took a chance on it. Thanks for the info on it
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 2 күн бұрын
$20??? Smoking deal!
@JohnBain-f8c
@JohnBain-f8c 3 күн бұрын
My Senior year in High School I could not afford to buy a SX 737, however I could afford to get the SA 7100 and later the TX 7100. I still have both and keep them for backup when my other receivers need repairs.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 3 күн бұрын
That's pretty cool. I would have thought the separates would have been more...
@JohnBain-f8c
@JohnBain-f8c 3 күн бұрын
@ The SA 7100 was $150 and the TX 7100 $125 and the SX 737 was $299.
@ssnoc
@ssnoc 4 күн бұрын
Extremely frustrating table to work on - And I don’t understand the love affair with it because the mechanic are metal sliding on metal that will always cause issues. There is no clearance on the sliding on / off mechanism which always Boggs down - Dual may be held in high esteem, but the 1019 is a collection of bogged down levers that will always cause trouble.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 3 күн бұрын
I am right there with you…I will say that if I HAD to run a Dual, it would be the 1019…
@Kpoponair1
@Kpoponair1 4 күн бұрын
Great video. I just finished fixing my CP 1057F by reconnecting those jumper wires. In my case, the arm swings too much into the record. I discovered A and B wore already cut. Reconnected them and now it stop at perfect position.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 3 күн бұрын
Nice! Glad the video helped!
@robertdavis5714
@robertdavis5714 5 күн бұрын
I bought SX 980, about 5 yrs ago when price was ok, chose this because looks like Baby Brother to 1980.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 4 күн бұрын
Prices are definitely crazy on these now.
@22AH708
@22AH708 5 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your video's!
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@gsonn18
@gsonn18 6 күн бұрын
Thanks! I have a Beogeam 6500 with a tonearm issue. Hopefully, it will be an easy fix.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 6 күн бұрын
Hope it helps! IIRC, this video isn't super detailed on how I stumbled upon the fix.
@gsonn18
@gsonn18 5 күн бұрын
@millervintagehifi3034 I found the service manual for the BEOGRAM 6500. It has the exact diagram that I need! To show me how to reattach the thin cord to the tonearm carrier assembly. I'll try again in about 2 hours.
@chris-jw4sx
@chris-jw4sx 6 күн бұрын
1010 are 1600
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 6 күн бұрын
Crazy...
@chris-jw4sx
@chris-jw4sx 6 күн бұрын
they are 900 now
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 6 күн бұрын
Again, crazy...
@almightyian
@almightyian 6 күн бұрын
Wow, that sucks! I ordered a Dual 1019 off ebay for $70~ and it arrived the same way except the plinth shattered into 5 pieces. I couldn't return it because of the deal I got and just glued everything back, now it looks fine. Without ebay, where do you source your turntables?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 6 күн бұрын
eBay is marginally better than ShopGoodwill...which is sad...
@MrElectrowhiz
@MrElectrowhiz 7 күн бұрын
I used to owna PL-A25. It was a good turntable
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 6 күн бұрын
I've found them easy to sort out and they are fairly reliable.
@tomsrensen9382
@tomsrensen9382 7 күн бұрын
Tell me about it; I've had two Pioneer tape decks destroyed when shipped by eBayers who were clueless about shipping heavy items. Without the factory original box, there's little chance of success.
@almightyian
@almightyian 6 күн бұрын
Welcome to my world! I've started providing shipping instructions and recording the unboxing of it, that has given me some success on getting proper refunds.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 6 күн бұрын
My experience as well...it's a fingers crossed situation with every order.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 6 күн бұрын
I've done the same, with photos to instruct sellers how to ship with a warning, but they seldom follow the directions :)
@jimsmith528
@jimsmith528 8 күн бұрын
How do you get the cover off?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 7 күн бұрын
Should be two screws on each side of the cabinet.
@DAZNOODLES07
@DAZNOODLES07 10 күн бұрын
I got mine for 40$ combined with a turntable! The amp was perfect however the turntable was a goner 😅😂
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 9 күн бұрын
$40 for this Sony is a good deal :)
@joeyork4655
@joeyork4655 10 күн бұрын
Just bought one of these and am hoping to restore it. This video was very informative. I hope to learn more.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 9 күн бұрын
Hope it helps!
@salviaspuzzle
@salviaspuzzle 11 күн бұрын
Got my PL-10 this year for $150, local. Absolutely mint. Gotta appreciate people taking good care of stuff like this 😀
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 11 күн бұрын
Totally agree. Most of the gear that walks in the door at the shop has not been well cared for…it’s sad to see.
@rpm2dayg648
@rpm2dayg648 11 күн бұрын
Mine (orig owner) doesn't power. Is there a fuse?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 11 күн бұрын
I do not believe there is a fuse, but you will need to check. Is the motor running and the platter just stuck? When is the last time it was used?
@rpm2dayg648
@rpm2dayg648 10 күн бұрын
@@millervintagehifi3034 Platter is pretty gummy but spins, no motor sound or effort, though. Stored almost 20 years.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 10 күн бұрын
@@rpm2dayg648 Hard to tell what the issue might be...could be a bad switch somewhere, bad motor, bad ??
@rpm2dayg648
@rpm2dayg648 10 күн бұрын
@@millervintagehifi3034 I guess it's a case of ran great when I parked! Lol. I'll get into it after the holidays and comment if I find the issue. Thanks, and happy holidays.
@jeffbranch8072
@jeffbranch8072 11 күн бұрын
I've had a 1974 PL-10 for 45 years now. It's still in very good condition, all accessories, and the box. In 1979 my oldest sister moved out of state and left me her stereo system - Pioneer SX-434, PL-10, and pair of speakers. I was 14, this was my first stereo. I absolutely loved it and still do. Only in the past year have I discovered that this is all entry level and low power. Never knew that, never cared, still don't care. I recently had the SX-434 restored to spec and serviced the PL-10 myself - clean/lubricate the spindle, new belt, new cartridge - that's all there is to it. It's still my only turntable (except for Voice of Music 1200-series record changers in consoles).
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 11 күн бұрын
Great story! Unfortunately too much of the gear from this time period was abused, especially the lower-end products.
@jacobcraft9561
@jacobcraft9561 11 күн бұрын
What did you use to lube the spindle?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 11 күн бұрын
I am using some stuff called ‘Reel Butter’ (for fishing reels). I’ve had it forever…it’s basically a synthetic motor oil.
@audiovideoguy0392
@audiovideoguy0392 12 күн бұрын
I Just fully serviced this model. It will not record. Goes into record..and nothing on PB. The tab in sensor has no switch associated to it. So these can record tab out??
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 11 күн бұрын
Unfortunately this is the only SD 3000 I've worked on, and it was some time back.
@rickc661
@rickc661 12 күн бұрын
I have the full auto version ( Stanton 681 EEE cart ) still works fine. the (to me ugly ) fake wood vinyl started peeling so I got it all of & to me looks better without. Couple years ago just for heck I got a new thorens 103 full auto , ( ortofon blue ). at 70 + I'm not gonna say I hear any difference. prefer Concert DVD's anyway , to me best improvement in HiFi since early 1970's leap in power.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 12 күн бұрын
I LOVE Stanton carts. I have several 681 and 881s as well as a few 500s.
@Gary-qq7og
@Gary-qq7og 12 күн бұрын
I found mine at a local sweap meet, paid $35.00 for it just cleaned it new belt works great.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 12 күн бұрын
They're pretty easy to get sorted out. Nice score!
@misterjason75
@misterjason75 12 күн бұрын
Excellent! I have a PL-41 and you walked me through the belt change and cleanup of that cap. I’m back in business! Thank you, sir!
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 12 күн бұрын
Glad the video was helpful.
@cwall9962
@cwall9962 12 күн бұрын
The one thing a new turntable has that none of these 50-year-old tables have: a warranty. My brother had this turntable. It sucked. Can't come close to matching the sound my MoFi StudioDeck and UltraTracker combo. I'll take new any day.
@metoo5159
@metoo5159 12 күн бұрын
If you go by inflation rates etc your Mofi is worth twice as much as the Pioneer. The PL10 was Pioneer's entry table and they sold tons of right up the PL12 II and many of them are still around.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 12 күн бұрын
Well we're not comparing apples to apples - the MoFi isn't an entry level deck. Go buy a u-turn orbit and we can talk...
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 12 күн бұрын
At least with the MoFi you get a 2 year limited warranty :)
@kfderksen
@kfderksen 13 күн бұрын
With some easy modification there is a lot too win. Make a new solid wood plinth add a rubber with cork matt and a nice cartridge (Audio technica vm95 green) and they are way better then a new one.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 12 күн бұрын
That's one of the joys of an old manual turntable...you can turn it into something special.
@everettberry6339
@everettberry6339 13 күн бұрын
Are you accepting local service projects?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 13 күн бұрын
Go to my website and send me an email. Depends on what you have that needs to be serviced :)
@everettberry6339
@everettberry6339 13 күн бұрын
@@millervintagehifi3034 Done. Thank you for your consideration.
@brunoprimas1483
@brunoprimas1483 13 күн бұрын
I know that there are somewhat affordable new turntables offered, but since there are so many well-built, simple, vintage tt's still around, I can see why they are still popular. Those are all I own and enjoy.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 13 күн бұрын
Definitely more ‘bang for the buck’ with most vintage tables. Others are WAY overpriced :)
@ULTRAFABUZAK
@ULTRAFABUZAK 15 күн бұрын
NICE. 🎵🎵
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tomaseriksson4533
@tomaseriksson4533 15 күн бұрын
I get a feeling that there are two sources for voice coil rub. One is that the voice coil is not circular and the other is that the surround dope has "fallen" down. Think the first thing to try is to move the driver 180 degree and wait some days to see if it's get better. The dope on the Altec can float around when it get hot. Question: What to use as dope for the surrounding? Is it black latex?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 15 күн бұрын
I think it is black latex, but I'm not an Altec Lansing historian :)
@jackonthefarm5540
@jackonthefarm5540 16 күн бұрын
Fun to watch this. I purchased one new in 1971. Still have original box, receipt, and owners manual. I had it cleaned and relamped several years ago. I love this thing.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 15 күн бұрын
We have this running through some Klipsh Chorus I speakers at 402 Vinyl. It's the best sounding setup in the shop :)
@canuckle7shucks
@canuckle7shucks 16 күн бұрын
My Father and I went stereo shopping in 74’ we bought an SX-737 and SX-434 together for $420 CAD. Brother still has 737 my ex has the 434 probably for a door stop.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 16 күн бұрын
The x3x series is great.
@Conjugate-Match
@Conjugate-Match 17 күн бұрын
You would have been well served by reviewing the owners manual prior to starting the project. It won't "auto start" when you have it set to manual mode.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 16 күн бұрын
Where is the fun in that? :)
@thimble288
@thimble288 18 күн бұрын
I lucked out on mine too. The dolby controls seem to need cleaning but the crackles clear up after a few minutes. I get tempted to move over to something simpler sometimes, but it passes.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 16 күн бұрын
I added a 9090 (non-DB) to the 'collection' as well :) I didn't get this one nearly as cheap as the DB...
@thimble288
@thimble288 16 күн бұрын
@millervintagehifi3034 after some consideration I think I might sell the old battle axe to someone who can afford to fix it when it has issues I am satisfied with much simpler gear every day, might as well just live there
@iunesferraz
@iunesferraz 19 күн бұрын
Hello, My shell is touching in the dust cover, how to solve this please?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 18 күн бұрын
Adjust the tonearm stand or arm height.
@CentLeatherFace
@CentLeatherFace 20 күн бұрын
What kind of veneer is that do u have a link where to buy it at
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 20 күн бұрын
I've purchased veneer from a few different sources. Either Amazon or eBay. I believe this was paper-backed veneer from Amazon.
@CentLeatherFace
@CentLeatherFace 15 күн бұрын
​@millervintagehifi3034 do u do repairs for people? I actually have this same model reciever has same problems blowing fuses and outputs being bad
@mistamovegas
@mistamovegas 20 күн бұрын
Awesome video. Came here after digging for a great sounding 30wpc simple reciever with loudness/contour and a TINY footprint. Such great info. Any other gear you'd recommend that would be similar?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 20 күн бұрын
I cannot think of any other vintage receivers this small off of the top of my head.
@bmboldt
@bmboldt 21 күн бұрын
Is it best to measure the value the old trim pots are set to and install the new ones at a similar value before turning it on?
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 21 күн бұрын
I haven’t considered that. I usually install them and just follow the alignment procedures - most instructions have you turn the trim pots fully counterclockwise.
@Josh-sk2xw
@Josh-sk2xw 21 күн бұрын
Wow.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bisarowood
@bisarowood 21 күн бұрын
how often are the caps bad on the board ? having some issue with mine with the solenoid not always working ...
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 21 күн бұрын
Estimates are that caps are designed to last 15-20 years (naturally, YMMV) so caps that are pushing 40/50/60 years old are more prone to drift out of spec or fail, causing issues. This turntable also uses optical sensors/lamps that will weaken over time (IIRC).
@pi.actual
@pi.actual 21 күн бұрын
I still have an 8080 that I bought in Japan in 1974. I was 20 years old and knew nothing about audio equipment. I chose the Sansui based solely on how it looked which, while very similar to the Pioneer and Marantz units in the showroom, was the only one with power meters.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 21 күн бұрын
I love me some VU meters :)
@DustyBarnacles
@DustyBarnacles 23 күн бұрын
What year is this model from?? I just bought this one for 10 dollars at a thrift store!
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 23 күн бұрын
Early 70s?
@pauldenouden9331
@pauldenouden9331 24 күн бұрын
Hi I have the McIntosh 1700 what type of replacement LEDs Do I need. ? Tx
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 24 күн бұрын
My 1700 is buried right now, do an eBay search (they sell kits)
@ethan1970
@ethan1970 25 күн бұрын
Hopefully you will get a 1250 on your bench sooner or later! Haha
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 25 күн бұрын
Those seem to be pretty rare. I’ve worked on a 1280 and 1980 but no 1250.
@ethan1970
@ethan1970 24 күн бұрын
@ That’s interesting, I always figured they had produced a ton of those units. Maybe not.
@Bulletisred
@Bulletisred 25 күн бұрын
Nice I have a pair of Model LS4b's very nice sounding speakers
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 25 күн бұрын
That pair of Model 5s are the only Jensen (branded) speakers I’ve come across.
@ronaldfriedline9297
@ronaldfriedline9297 26 күн бұрын
I have an sx 828 and noticed the dial "glass" seems to be a type of plexiglass. Surprising, because both my sx 737, 750 are real glass.
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 26 күн бұрын
Is the 828 glass OEM?
@ronaldfriedline9297
@ronaldfriedline9297 25 күн бұрын
@millervintagehifi3034 didn't know what that meant, I looked it up. Is OEM real glass? It didn't really tell me. Does that unit you have appear to be a real glass? Mine seems inferior to the one in my 737 and 750 models
@millervintagehifi3034
@millervintagehifi3034 25 күн бұрын
@@ronaldfriedline9297 OEM is 'original equipment manufacturer'...in other words, is it original to the unit or did someone replace it with plexiglass later on. Models before and after the 828 used real glass, so my assumption is that plexiglass was used to replace the original (probably damaged) glass. The 727 I have in the garage right now has real glass in it.
@ronaldfriedline9297
@ronaldfriedline9297 25 күн бұрын
@millervintagehifi3034 I've got 2 828s and they're both the same thing. Looks plastic to me so I don't know
@ronaldfriedline9297
@ronaldfriedline9297 25 күн бұрын
Original print on both upper right by the tuning knob