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@todor_todorov 2 күн бұрын
most biased nix commercial i've ever seen in my whole life. total clown fiesta, and yes i use arch btw
@maezrfulldive2770 11 күн бұрын
I will now switch to nixos
@CRYPTiCEXiLE Ай бұрын
Arch and Gentoo are both older than NixOS and they also do a lot of things right. Gentoo I say is amazing system.
@calholli Ай бұрын
"NIx is only surpassed by ubuntu or debian" --- Shows up at the bottom of the list. lol
@alpha_proof Ай бұрын
Arch + homemanager btw.(because NixOs doesn't follow linux fs compliance)
@AMN_2080 2 ай бұрын
جرررر😂😂😂
@andrabtedja 3 ай бұрын
I'm NixOS user. But I don't think that it should be compared with Archlinux because both distro has unique selling preposition. NixOS (Nix) comes with 3 USP: • declarative • reliable • reproducible While Arch comes with KISS philosophy made it as DIY distro and has strong positioning here. I agree to call Archlinux as minimalist and simplest distro from their philosophy. The problem is how far do we know about Archlinux? Maybe it's not good as we know about NixOS.
@RazoBeckett. 4 ай бұрын
I use Arch, btw no hates but i will die by Arch that's it.
@lololol338 4 ай бұрын
thats funny
@TheMotorcycleBoy-pe2eg 4 ай бұрын
Great presentation, well done Drake. Learned about source.... Looking forward to your future expositions
@TheMotorcycleBoy-pe2eg 4 ай бұрын
Been using Nixos for a year. Happy as a sandboy
@SHIMEYORI 4 ай бұрын
Anime girl = click
@YERAFirearms 5 ай бұрын
NixOS? Is it rolling distro? Can I run Plasma 6.1.x?
@moh.anifyuliansyah9863 4 ай бұрын
Change to unstable channel and you get rolling release of NixOS
@magnificoas388 2 ай бұрын
yes plasma 6.1.5 last kernel, etc.
@cybernit3 5 ай бұрын
Didn't the NixOS staff ban some contributor for breaking woke rules?
@anonymouscommentator 5 ай бұрын
nixos is what linux should have been from the start
@5mrd 5 ай бұрын
I need Guide for yubikey 5 NFC. For Passwordless Sudo Authentication and KeePassXC. I use nixOS "unstable".
@KaiWegner 5 ай бұрын
wat ... "trailing behind only such industry veterans as [...]" does not go on to mention the 16 more popular distros xD
@BosonCollider 5 ай бұрын
Nix and Arch are just two different things. Arch is just a very "vanilla" linux flavour whose main advantage is forcing you to learn all the basic fundamentals to get a working system. Nix does its own thing and diverges from vanilla linux quite a bit (no FHS, everything must have specified dependencies, no accidental configuration drift). The two just share the aspect of being customizable.
@BlackTakGolD 5 ай бұрын
I use NixOS but I don't think there's a real need to compete it with other distros like arch, the goals are simply different, imperative management is easier but less predictable, declarative management is more predictable(reproducible?) but more work, they're not even trying to be comparable, NixOS is not FHS compliant, which some people would go as far as to say this makes it harder to even say that it is a Linux distribution, I wouldn't go that far though.
@BosonCollider 5 ай бұрын
This. They are different in the same way that RHEL and Arch are different. Nix and Arch just have in common that they are both quite customizable and have way more up-to-date packages.
@the-old-channel 5 ай бұрын
I use nix, btw
@Jacklul 5 ай бұрын
Distrowatch page hit ranking means nothing, it is not an accurate way to measure distro popularity.
@m0r4ag 5 ай бұрын
Idk what you are talking about bro, obviously MX Linux is the most known an distro by far
@adjbutler 5 ай бұрын
NixOS!!! NixOS!!! NixOS!!!!
@DrBotnus 5 ай бұрын
I feel like NixOS would be suitable not for desktop, but the server side of Linux, due to its reproducibility. You could make a config file on your pc and implement said config on each of the servers. This could be very useful for a kubernetes cluster where you’ve got multiple servers that should contain the same packages and configs, and easy upgrades whenever it’s time to add to the cluster. However I feel like on desktop, it would become cumbersome to manage all of these config files, instead of just telling the computer to install the package, and if necessary clamp the version. Also, for rolling back to a stable version of your system, timeshift backups work great
@BosonCollider 5 ай бұрын
Installing packages on nixos is not actually difficult. Add the package you want to your list of packages using your favourite text editor, reload, done. Getting a development environment working would be the hard part since you basically have to specify what you use upfront at the level needed to make a package out of it, instead of writing a dockerfile later & just shipping the entire machine around your app as many devs do now, or leaving it to ops/packaging experts as was the case in the old days. Nix is basically built by packaging/devops people for packaging/devops people.
@DrBotnus 5 ай бұрын
@@BosonCollider I’m on my way back from a vacation, so I’ll be able to try it out on Proxmox
@Techonsapevole 5 ай бұрын
I tried both Archlinux is still superior for most use cases, NixOS is cool but it's mainly a configuration abstraction and if a software isn't supported you are stuck
@dyamineu5246 5 ай бұрын
The issue with NixOS (as a user) remains the fact that packages need to adapt to it (fhs non compliant, all dependencies need to be declared, etc) however as it's popularity rises I think it can become the top distro. What is weird is that the system does not behave in the same way we expect a Linux distro to (ro file system), but it does fit quite well to the Linux philosophy.
@adjbutler 5 ай бұрын
i am the maintainer of decent-sampler package and it is fhs non compliant (a real headache) but I made it work because nix does have escape hatches that you can use to make anything work.... just gotta work through the problem... (only been in NixOS for 12 months)
@sussybaka7721 5 ай бұрын
This is a rebuttal for arch and I'll tell you why I disagree, pacman includes a tool called vercmp which lets you pin package versions with just a command in the terminal rolling back and rolling forward just use timeshift and package versions conflicts? that never happens pacman solves dependencies extremely well And about the nix repository vs aur, this is very debatable and has no clear truth to it since u can find more random apps on aur and also nixpkgs has the unstables and some software is fragmented on it for example it has every extension of vscode as a package so u have to install it individually I use Arch, BTW
@MyllowMedia 5 ай бұрын
the thing is you can simply use nix packages on arch (as user) for servers I think nix would be more appropriate
@petar0402 5 ай бұрын
NixOS over Arch? Yeah. Nah.
@alpha_proof Ай бұрын
Arch + Nix(over AUR)
@sebastianbauer4768 5 ай бұрын
Hah, one of the oldest linux distributions. That one was funny. Suse, Debian, Red Hat, Slackware ... those are old. First generation of distros and they are all still around.
@TerryQuiet 5 ай бұрын
discord invite is expired
@DrakeRossman 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for noticing, here's the updated link - discord.gg/f2QmfK6w
@CEOofGameDev 5 ай бұрын
that's a silly video title. Arch doesn't need no one's help to die on you...
@sampletext69420 5 ай бұрын
1 update destroyed my grub
@houstonbova3136 4 ай бұрын
Updating bricked my box 3 times on arch. NixOS is my new fave. Came for the rollbacks and stability staying for literally everything else.
@OK-cp8qw 4 ай бұрын
Amazingly didn't even used vanilla arch for this , but used endeavouros , no update nothing , just boot to desktop and somehow my browser is removed.
@mariojr 5 ай бұрын
Oh, so you are the guy spamming nixos on /g/ right?
@adjbutler 5 ай бұрын
no that would be me.... lol
@homfes 5 ай бұрын
How much storage drive space does a barebones nix install consume?
@DrakeRossman 5 ай бұрын
Slightly under 5 GiBs.
@rafal9ck817 2 ай бұрын
Basic setup that is usable (actually my hyprland setup) 140GB
@calholli Ай бұрын
all of it
@alpacamale2909 5 ай бұрын
Minimalistic with that fat ass install size.
@sachinchaudhary1310 5 ай бұрын
There is minimal iso too and nix has lot's of stuuff not just that
@AlbertCloete 5 ай бұрын
17th most popular isn't popular at all. There are a whole bunch of distros above it that I've never even heard of.
@DrewryPope 5 ай бұрын
The 17th most popular language today is Swift, one year ago the 17th most popular language was Rust. I assume these aren't popular either? Or are Scratch, Delphi, and Matlab more important?
@MrGoodie4shoes 5 ай бұрын
The OSs above are derivatives of standard OSs. AKA BASED on <Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, Fedora>
@p0n-pompf 5 ай бұрын
imagine being below KDE neon which isnt even a real distribution
@m0r4ag 5 ай бұрын
@@DrewryPopeI think he’s talking exclusively about the Distrowatch ranking
@3Diego 5 ай бұрын
I've used Arch from 2015 to 2021, switched to Void due to stability issues.. Even though Void never broke and had zero issues, their repos are tiny. I really wanted to use Hyprland but it isn't available for Void officially, so I learned in the official Hyprland page that NixOS and Arch were officially supporting it. As I didn't want to go back to Arch, I tried NixOS and got hooked to it. I can see it overtaking both Arch and Debian as it has the best of both worlds, stable and but yet bleeding edge.
@jarosawszyc8287 5 ай бұрын
LET'S GOOOOOO !!!
@intermarer9145 5 ай бұрын
hmm hmm if flakes lock versions of the package and dependencies, how do you update them? Is it highly manual? And do I make a flake for each app? Like, would I have one flake for Firefox, and one flake for VLC, and one for Hyprland?
@DrakeRossman 5 ай бұрын
Hey, flakes are indeed a bit "manual" to manage, I'm going to make a video about it. In the meantime, consider subscribing, and we also have a discord channel - you can ask there.
@afriendofafriend223 5 ай бұрын
The break never part is sadly not true.
@Ladas552 5 ай бұрын
Cool nice awesome keep it up lit linux torvalds would be proud
@tanawatjukmongkol2178 5 ай бұрын
2:22 Bruh. I should have watched this video two days ago, before I had to figure this out. Thank you for the informative video so people won't make the same mistake I did. :D
@Ramtechbytes 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@3Diego 5 ай бұрын
The best explanation ever of what flakes do and how to use them!
@acceleratedflesh7780 5 ай бұрын
Come to Brazil