The 2019 GasGas with carb is a great bike. Only downside is its shitty starter system. Quality wise it is way better than the Beta who has horrible electrics and super brittle plastic parts. The Beta handles easier, the GG is more stable. Both engines have identical power and grunt so hard to say which one is stronger.

@@Steveman61 03 GG compared with 2023 Beta, is night and day difference, especially in how easy is to work on the bike, I can clearly see the optimisations. But guess the Rieju is similar now... GG was super reliable however, the engine is bulletproof...

No, it is the same with all bikes having the new engine with the balancer shaft.

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Danke, freut mich wenn dir dieser Reifen auch Spaß macht!

Gefällt mir besser als Bridgestone AX41

My pleasure! I'm glad if it helped buddy!

Thx mate 😉

Although it sounds horrible it is pretty normal. It is a combination of wafer thin engine covers and the for 2017 new design of the gears inside the engine. Mine did it for 140 hours and I never had a problem. The new owner sold it with a total of 250 hours and had no problems either,

Das wundert mich, hattest du den "Ranger"?

@@Steveman61 Nein, es war der "normale".

@@helios1225 OK, der normale ist wesentlich härter als der "Ranger" und funktioniert nicht halb so gut. Hält dafür lange...

Der E07+ ist haltbarer aber in Bezug auf Nässegrip hat der Ranger die Nase vorne. Offroad sowieso

Thanks mate. It still does it but no problems so far. I have seen other bikes in the meantime and they all do it.

Get the Heidenau K60 for longevity and the K60 Ranger for best performance off roads. ;-)

They are both very good bikes. Equally strong, the Beta is more aggressive and is steering quicker, the GasGas is easier to ride in the technical stuff due to its very torquey and less aggressive engine.Both have very good suspension from KYB, the rear shock on the gasGas is better in my opinion. I can grab the Gasgas better with my legs. Overall both are great bikes, I can really not say which one is better. If I had decide in one second I think I'd keep the GasGas.

Many thanks Rob, I will soon show some more upgrades.

Thanks mate, yes if I hold the button just short it gets less but doesn't go away entirely. Friends say they also have it. Noise just made me nervous because I thought the starter gears or something gets damaged.

@@Steveman61 I am pretty sure its not problem, to me it sounds like the startermotor spinning freely. But if you want to make sure, get the starter out an check how it engages and if the spinning motor makes the exact same noise.

I am not sure which knock you're talking about 🤔

I only can say that the noise in the video is standard and is no reason for worries. Concerning your noise I have no clue but keep my fingers crossed the dealer will sort it out for you. Good luck!

I wish we could ride together 🙂

i just bought a 2021 tpi..... and i have this noise.... Is YOURS OK ?? 2 yewars later? ... I replaced the top end too... thinking it was a bad wrist pin... NOPE... my noise is coming from the counter balance shaft area...

Thank you my friend!

Don't worry, in the meantime we all know it's normal and most if not all of them sound like this. Mine lasted about 150 hours without problems, then I sold it. From what i have heard it is still going strong with now over 280 hours...

@@Steveman61 thats awesome. Great to know

No reason to, be worried. Mine did it till 150 hours, then I sold it. It has now over 250 hours and still does it.

Seems to be pretty normal. Sold the bike with 150 hours and it is still going strong....

@@Steveman61 Thanks Steve...

Really understand you but it is no reason to worry. I was so scared that I brought the bike right back to the dealer. He took two other brand new bikes, a 250 and a 300 and they both were as noisy as mine. It has several reasons. The engine covers are wafer thin hence keep no noise inside. The newer bikes have -so they said- one or two gears less and the clutch is due to its construction making a lot of noise. I rode the bike for 150 hours and the noise remained the same and the new owner also says all is good after over 300 hours :-)

@@Steveman61 thanks for the reply. I can stop stressing now and enjoy the bike 😊

My te300 21 sounds the same, did sin e new

Hey Phil @phil.. it's such a head cooker I bought a 2021 te300i too. It's done 60 hours and still makes those noises... I had the head off cylinder looks fine.. it's the worst if you forget the noise after a week. It just feels like it will blow but it doesn't

@@motoman1010 unfortunately I had to sell mine not long after....but after lots of research it does appear to be fine...its basically they use such thin clutch baskets and casing so thats all it is 👍

Dont worry, seems to be normal. My Kato had 150 hrs when I sold it. The noise is still there but the bike runs flawless.

Dont't worry. It has 104 hours now and worked flawless so far. I had the impression that the noise got even a bit louder over time but it seems to be pretty normal. In the meantime I have met so many other riders and they all report the engine to be noisy. KTM said its due to less gears giving the clutch the possibility to tumble a bit. Also the wafer thin engine covers dont damp much noise.

steve da man I’m feeling much better reading your information. I have a 2017 300XC with 54 hours on it. I just noticed the noise and started to get concerned. My noise seems to change when I pull in the clutch which would make sense from your description of the cause. I still don’t like it, lol. I’m wondering if I should put a Recluse clutch in to quiet it down? What’s your thoughts? I appreciate your feedback.

@@JS-ny8snWhit reckluse,that sound will disappear

Mine has now 85 hours and still sounds like that. I had both cases off, the left to check the fly wheel and the right to check the clutch. Also the clutch and basket were off at about 65 hrs. All normal, bike runs fine. Bought an 2018 TPI 250 this year and it sounds exactly the same.

jmac262610 what did you have to do to fix it