yes, people tend to mix things up a bit here, even ourselves during test reports between different people. So front foot pressure is whilst you are up on the foil already, this is how relating to how much pressure you feel from the front wing pushing upwards under your front foot - many people would call this then lift, as it feels light it is lifting. Actual lift should be the way the foil lifts from getting the board released from the water to a foiling position. Foils with a lot of "lift" in this case, tend to often have a lot or good front foot pressure, but this can be too excessive, if you are looking for speed/manouevers or an inexperienced rider will not know how to use his/her body weight to keep the foil down. Lift at low speed can be good, to get up onto the foil, this can be adjusted by shimming, yes by adding positive tail shims. Or by moving the mast further forward, which is generally the better way to get the "right" amount of front foot pressure. Lift while flying at high speeds is then a different story, as you want the foil to feel as neutral as possible, here I would revert to "front foot pressure" as a guide, to feel comfortable having just enough of it, to be able to push against, without the foil coming up too much. Here negative shims can help to reduce too much "lift" or front foot pressure. But Jerome can give a much better explanation as a designer, this is more from myself as an end user, using terminology/logic from testing/discussing with people on the beach. That is quite different from the sometimes quite technical discussions that some people have/use/prefer. :-)

@@duotone.wingfoiling thanks so much !!

Hi! Our new 2.0 masts match the stiffness of our first generation dlab mast but we are now thinner and have a shorter chord length, so drag has been reduced. As always there is no magic solution, to achieve the same stiffness, we have to use more carbon fibre and our new masts are a little bit heavier than the last generation because of that.

Thank you for the reply! Happy to hear it matches the stiffness of the v1 Dlab, but does it match the stiffness of the original Duotone/fanatic carbon mast? I was under the impression that while the original carbon was the bulkiest in the lineup, it was also the most stiff. Thank you!

@kovz910 the Duotone/Fanatic mentioned in the Nolimitz test you are referring to is the same as the 1st generation Dlab mast. Our thicker/original Fanatic mast, which is the same as the current Duotone SLS mast, is even stiffer! That one isn't mentioned in the Nolimitz test but it would beat all these mast for sure. That mast is almost 19mm thick and 135mm in chord length.

Hi there, in the Bahamas in January, great location.

the pain is real...:-) ok, noted, we are looking into higher res in future then!

Hi there, so at 70kg with your current level/coming from a 2000HA - I would go to the Free 1250 to get to 100% gybe rate/learn toe-side & switches. This should be the best allrounder for your mostly lighter days but also the windier 20-25knots, as the Free can handle overpowered better than the Glide. Once you have the basics 100%, add a Glide 2.0 900 for most of your riding, that should be more than big enough for 70kg/Skybrid. 1100 Glide 2.0 also an option, but then later will be too big for higher winds/maybe still a touch too technical at first for getting those gybes 100%. Also the jump from a 2000HA straight to a Glide 2.0 1100 would be a touch too big, 1350 Glide 2.0 also has a LOT of lift, so for your weight too much. I would go with the Free 1250, then add smaller Glide 900 later.

@@duotone.wingfoiling Thanks for the quick reply and the useful info 🙂. Would you have a recommendation for the skybrid board volume?

Hi there, so currently you are on a Sky Air 103/70kg, I would say unless you plan on doing a lot of jumping, go for the Skybrid in 5'6" x 70L, that should be easily big enough for you to float. Or if you prefer to not take a big step/want a safe option, the 5'8" x 85L is perfect for getting all the basics right - this is what I ride as a light wind option (74/75kg), when I am not powered with my 65L Sky Style. My daughter also uses this board as allrounder, ca 60kg.

Hi there, actually the lift will be higher than the 750, as the Hyperglide is made for downwinding on a downwinder with a paddle or prone board, without the assistance of a wing - so lower top end speed, but better lift and glide. Therefore if you want to wing with foils below 1000, I would really reccomend to choose a Carve 2.0/Glide or Whizz, but not the Hyperglide purely for winging.

Hi there, well you are fairly light, so stability should not be an issue - but with lakes/fresh water, the lift and wind is less, so I would wonder if you are perhaps better off with the standard width Downwinders - maybe the 7'6" x 115L x 20.5"/52cm - this is a touch bigger/wider than the 8'6 (110L x 19"/48cm)" and should be better for a beginner?

@@duotone.wingfoiling Thank you for your insights.

21° this week!

Wind and weather are still amazing actually - this coming weekend is going to be great!

Ours too!

On my bucket list!! Soooo cool What time of year was this? How’s air/water temperature? Thks!

Hi Mark, the D/LAB 2.0 masts all have new profiles, so they are quite a bit better in terms of ventilation and top speed, vs the previous D/LAB version. Each has a slightly different use, the 84 is the best allrounder for most types of riding. 76 aimed at downwinders/pump, whilst the 94 is more about speed/has best aerodynamic/least chance of ventilation. The SLS are also very good masts, slightly heavier and without the newer profiles and outlines of the D/LAB, which are our latest versions. Hard to say "how big" the difference is, as it really depends on the expectations/level and budget. For average use, the SLS is more than fine, if you want to upgrade and tap into some extra performance, then choose the D/LAB. Or think about the SLS Quick Mount if space/time is an issue, this mast is super stiff/connection works great too, so is also worth the extra $.

the wing will be stiffer, which can be an advantage in certain situations. But it can also cause the frame to stretch more/canopy then as well, whilst a Wing with too much air can also feel a bit too stiff. Generally a half PSI more is fine. 1 -2 PSI more is a lot and not reccomended, with the risk of bladder damage also an issue.

Hi there, glad to hear you like the wing, sorry about your problem - which support did you ask - normally the best way to organise a new bladder will be with the shop where you bought the wing, they can order it from our HQ? as that is not normal - most wings lose a bit of air during riding, but usually not more than 0.5-1psi max. The Bladders can be removed and patched fairly easily at a shop, they are used to this from repairing kites, otherwise a new bladder can also be ordered.

@@duotone.wingfoiling Thanks for your quck answer. I am going to make it repaired by a specialist.

Hi there, 75kg myself, just been using the Skybrid 85 on the weekend in some very light winds at Garda testing with mainly Glide 2.0 1100 size as it was extremely light/7 and 8sqm wings. Firstly I would say for your weight, if you are already using a 1250 front wing, means you have a reasonable level - go for the Skybrid 85, no need to go for 5'10" x 100L, the 5'8" x 85L will be more than big enough for you. Takes a couple of sessions to get the clambering on board right, but once you are on the board kneeling&standing, the length really helps to stabilise the board. Of course, the 5'10" x 100L does not have a major disadvantage if you prefer more volume, it's just not as compact but will be easier if you are coming from a much wider/bigger board before. Actually easier to pump a board up in light winds which is just a bit more volume than your weight. Back to the foils - if it is really only 9-12knots/6.0, then I would go for the Glide 2.0 in 1100 size, to be safe. The 900 will also work well from around 12-15knots and have less power than your 1250 Free, but be much faster/more manoeuvre friendly/more pump and glide. But below that you need more technique/a bigger wing. Perhaps a good idea to keep your 1250 and get the 900 Glide 2.0 and then you can see how much overlap there is? I know a few people heavier than you who are using the 900 as their absolute biggest foil, with Skybrid type boards, so it does have a lot of power for its size. Sorry to offer too many options, but was also not sure if you want to rid of the 1250 Free, or just add a foil? Anyway a Glide 2.0 would be ideal, either in 900 or 1100, depending on the rest of your future collection.

@@duotone.wingfoiling Thanks for the speedy reply, my local spot has a habit of shutting off wind wise and as I am a bit older than most riders feel happier with a bit more float. Wind wise the plan is to see if I can extend the range of the board with a new 7.0m Ventis for low wind days (1100), and the 900 for 6.0-5.0 days when we have a 0.5 to1m wind swell and gusty conditions. Your reply pretty much answered my questions but good to have the feedback. One other question on the Glide V2, it is mentioned to move the mast track forward 2cm? is that the same for the Skybrid boards? And can you explain the reason for this? More speed from board helping lift? or due to new design changes creating more powerful foils. Thanks.

ah, ok understood - so stick with the 5'10" - good choice on the 7.0 Ventis, an 8.0 is not needed at your weight and the 7.0 is much better for riders of your level/weight/with a Skybrid. 1100/900 is a perfect combo! The Glide 2.0 H back wing is designed to bring the centre of pressure/lift closer to the front wing, therefore you need to move it slightly further forward vs Glide 1.0 to get a good front foot pressure. If used with a lower aspect P back wing (from Glide 1.0 series), then no need to move it. The Skybrids do however give quite a bit more lift to start than the shorter/wider boards, plus the tracks are anyway further forward and extra long , so placing right in the centre should work fine, this is where I have mine, with the 1100 it could actually even go back a bit from there.

@@duotone.wingfoiling Many thanks for all the answers to my questions, and the tips for tuning the foils.

Hi there, there is no 2024 version, the 2025 was a slightly earlier release in July 2024, runs until September 2025 unchanged in the line.

@@duotone.wingfoiling Funny how some shops are selling 2024 Skybird SLS online. Thanks for the clarification.

yes, well since we came a bit earlier than planned, they probably assumed it was a 2024 model - the article name/numner in the system is clearly 2025.

Hi there, if you are learning gybes then I would first stick with the Free range, in the size 1250 or 1500 should be a good allrounder for your weight and lighter wind conditions. The Glide 2.0 1350 has a lot of power/drive and will become too big in stronger winds, so if any Glide 2.0, then the 1100. But I would actually stick to the Free range until you the basics sorted out. The 1250 Free has a lot of power for it's size, for an intermediate/advanced level this would be the light wind foil (it's a foil everyone in my family and friends circle used after coming from Free 2000/1750/1500).

not really, the only real issues that happen during wingfoiling are falling on the rail of the board if it is turned on it's side, or contact to the foil. With the leashes, most of the time the board will move away from your body during a crash, the wing goes neutral and cannot hurt you - the leashes just make sure you do not lose your gear.

that is correct in sailing terms yes...will see if we can get that corrected.

I am self taught too since the very first wings (2019), struggled even as a former World Cup windsurfer due to having no instructor/anyone to learn from. On the other hand, I taught my daughter and many, many people to wing, within hours in some cases. So a lesson/good advice is most certainly worthwhile, on the other hand, the latest gear does make life a LOT easier than a few years ago.

fairly simple, because the forces involved on opening/closing the foils properly, makes simply cross head screws loose their head threads pretty quickly/you cannot apply the same force required to tighten foil parts properly when using classic cross or flat head screw drivers. All of our foils are supplied with the necessary tools, also Torx heads are much better when they get older, as you can still use a worn head to open a tight screw. Pretty clear that all manufacturers reached the same conclusion here after a few years.

Torx screws are a much better fastener. It's a radiused spine drive.

Hi there, perhaps you did not see that we offer the option to choose between handles and booms AND the wing only price has therefore been reduced by around 5% vs the previous model. Including the handle or boom it is a total package of around 2-4% more expensive depending on the size, than the previous Unit model with handles, basically just covering inflation/double or triple the freight costs of 12 months ago/raw material and labour price increases etc. The whole idea is to allow customers to choose - when you order a car you also get to choose which size wheels you want, the total package is almost always more than the previous model. Anyway, hope you understand the concept and can add to your collection, thanks for your support so far.

Hi there, in the Bahamas in January this year, great location.

Hi Carl, sounds good - personally no, but I would presume the Whizz is the right combo for Foil Drive sessions- it's the prone/wave foil in our range, with the best turning/pump combo, so should work the best vs the Carve (top end better but less pump) or Glide (good pump/drive, but wider span means turning not as tight as the Whizz, at least in 1000+ wings).

Plenty of other content for "adults" in our other media, this is a specific kids clip...:-) And I'm in the 50+ category, busting airs with all my 50+ friends too, so it's not just a kids thing, haha. The great thing about winging is that it allows kids to learn the sport super quickly, in absolutely average conditions, locally. Vs windsurfing or kiting where you do need a certain amount of wind/water conditions to learn. I have seen kids learning to wing from zero to doing stuff like in the video within 12months. We should celebrate that. And at the same time, what a great sport for older riders, have a few friends touching 70+ who are out there in 35knots having a blast. Average age according to our/independant research is between 30-55, with good numbers on either end. Plenty of families all winging together, sometimes in 3 generations. Great time to be part of the sport. Generally we like to involve all our team riders in our photoshoots as much as possible, we use a mix of our mainly 17-30yr old Pro riders, as well as a few National riders/opinion leaders, who are often ex athletes, 30+.

@@duotone.wingfoiling i totally agree that it’s a great sport for the family and for kids as well and it is great to watch your videos and people like Cash, Malo to see what’s possible. Just wanted to give some feedback as - when im going to a “non lake” spot - there’s mostly former kite and windsurfers on the wing, and those are (as far as i can see) out of their teenage years. Maybe it’s only my perception as i also got older with time, but it seems that - especially duotone - wing videos don’t have many people that are above 18. Not sure if relatable content is not a thing anymore these days, but that’s only my limited pov and you know your target group better than me.

I think as always it is very spot dependant, for example we filmed this in the Gorge, but there generally out of season the average age at the event location is indeed way higher, or even on Maui at Kanata etc. But then moving to a different beach things can look quite different. But yes, a lot of the customers are obviously older than 18, it's an expensive sport, so many kids do need to rely on their parents support too. Again, we do have a good mix of ambassadors in our videos, in fact the team in this clip are the only ones under 18, the rest are all between 20-35 . But point taken, thanks for the feedback!

I couldnt see a foil for a while.

Hi there, if you are already up on the foil in terms of riding level, then yes, the 1350 would have more glide due to outline and profile, than the 2000. For a pure beginner, still learning to get up on the foil, I would rather stick with the 2000, with its lower aspect outline and profile, it is a great beginner foil. Hope that helps!

Hi there, this was filmed in the Bahamas, great foiling location! Always check the water depth at potential Wingfoiling locations, some windsurfing or kite centres may only have very shallow water directly in front of the centres.

Hi Vincent, If u are not jumping then should be no problem with the new 94, which is indeed better at top speeds/far less ventilation issues.

Hi there, sure, works for everything, even a bigger AMP 2145, or for jumping/in the waves etc. Great tool for saving a few minutes or switching between between boards.

Hi there, our best foils for combining Kite and Wing are the Carve 2.0 range. Would suggest to look at the 1100 Carve then, just remember you will need a new 3BS fuselage here due to the different foil to fuselage mounting, if you want to combine it with a DTK carbon mast - if you have an Alu mast from DTK, then you will need to unfortunately update both mast and fuselage to either the older Fanatic or new Duotone systems, either Alu or Carbon will work - the front wing to fuselage has not changed there. Free free to come back with questions on your actual hardware (mast/fuselage). The Whizz is primarily for Prone and wave use for Winging, the Carve 1100 will be a better partner for both kiting and also for your Free 5'9".

I just bought 2 weeks ago the alu mast woth quickmount with the fuselage and free 2000 for winging. Is it not compatible with the carve 2.0? I hope so

not, that is compatible for sure, no problem, as you have the SUP/Wing fuselage. I only mentioned it as you said you have the older Spirit 1250, which is the kite fuselage system.

@@duotone.wingfoiling thanks. Last question. Is the 1250 free good for kiting? Comparing to my 1250 spirit surf? Maybe the free is bether for me for both, winging and kiting.

Hi there, I would actually go for the Carve rather, it has more speed/less drag than the 1250 Free, pretty sure it will suit you. For winging it has a lot of lift and power, but this could be too much for Kiting.