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@suvari225
@suvari225 Күн бұрын
I have two Newpowa bifacial 100w panels connected to my Delta 2. I am planning to add more. Low voltage and max 5A per panel is actually excellent for Delta 2. I think 2s3p (6panels) is very safe config. Amp goes 15A max and voltage stays well below 60V limit.
@brsm
@brsm 23 сағат бұрын
I'm trying the same thing with my Delta 2, but I'm running into issues with 2s4p. The voltage hovers around 31v under load, so at the 15 amps max input of the Delta 2 I'm only able to get ~465W with 800W of panels.
@bickert19
@bickert19 Күн бұрын
Thanks for the vid and explanation! Any input or information on doing this in a Tesla? Model Y specifically. I have not seen a video yet for that car/application surprisingly.
@dekuramen3283
@dekuramen3283 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for putting this video together. I have 2 Delta Pros and a Model S P90. Looking to get the EcoFlow DCDC when its on sale. For now my inverter is working okay for how I utilize it, but this is so much better with double DCDC.
@aliyada
@aliyada 2 күн бұрын
It looks like the manual on EcoFlow's website (dated April 23rd, 2024) differs from the one in your hand :( They removed items number 4 and 11 Which is butts, because I'd love to charge my DPU at 500w from the alternator charger. Hopefully they clarify the discrepancy soon!
@solarcharging9743
@solarcharging9743 5 күн бұрын
You're going to smoke your home's appliances using that Ecoflow high frequency, transformerless inverter. All it's going to take is for one of the MOSFETs in the H-Bridge circuit to short to ground, and because there is no transformer, there's no galvanic isolation between its DC boost stage and its AC output.No thanks.
@ingalway
@ingalway 5 күн бұрын
I'm thinking of buying the new Segway Cube power station which has Solar Input: Maximum Voltage: 60V DC so I think should work with the EcoFlow 500w charger? You mention a custom cable to connect - could you give more information on that please? What connections/cable etc. Thank you
@brsm
@brsm 5 күн бұрын
I did a couple short videos on this if you check my channel. I'll do a longer one soon once I get a custom cable working well.
@freddrichner
@freddrichner 6 күн бұрын
Did you build them jumper cables or did you buy it?
@brsm
@brsm 5 күн бұрын
The cables come with the Alternator Charger. I added alligator clips onto it so it'd be easier to move between cars.
@LowOnCash
@LowOnCash 6 күн бұрын
Thanks however I would be careful pulling 800 watts from the down converter they are not made for that type of continuous load.Most draw on EV's in intermittent there is nothing in that car that would come even close to what your drawing. If you smoke the down converter you'll pay 3-4 times what that charger cost you. My self I would limit it to 300-400 watts tops. Regards Mike
@theblinkstykrab3106
@theblinkstykrab3106 5 күн бұрын
While what youre saying is true, the watt figures you’re wuoting are way, way below what would damage the dc-dc converter with continuous draw..
@Free_Samples
@Free_Samples 6 күн бұрын
Hey man thank you for inviting me to your adult diaper party. I had a blast! 🎉
@renk5000
@renk5000 7 күн бұрын
Man, I wish my 12v battery was in the back of my 4runner lol
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 2 күн бұрын
you can literaly switch the battery there if you want.
@johndoe-oi7bq
@johndoe-oi7bq 7 күн бұрын
Don't these have 1500w built in inverters like the highlander hybrids do? Why do this for only 800?
@heskey333
@heskey333 Күн бұрын
That's only on the highest trim with a special package. Cheaper to do it this way, plus the portable battery has other uses.
@AlexanderSwaine
@AlexanderSwaine 8 күн бұрын
YMMV But this is just pulling from the 12v battery and not from the traction battery. Unless your car will keep the 12v battery charged while it's off, which many don't, this will kill the 12v battery
@brsm
@brsm Күн бұрын
You run this while your car is on and configure the Alternator Charger to turn off when your car turns off, so the 12v battery is never tapped for power. It's all purely from the DC to DC converter.
@AlexanderSwaine
@AlexanderSwaine Күн бұрын
@@brsm right but as described in the video it doesn't use the traction battery for this and would only work while the car is on.
@_Roman228_
@_Roman228_ 8 күн бұрын
Hi, will you play Warhammer Soushtorm?
@mrx3184
@mrx3184 8 күн бұрын
Seems cool, but also seems over complicated with the DC to DC conversions? Does the Rav4 Prime not have a dedicated V2L socket? We don't get this model in Australia. In Australia we can just plug the car's V2L port straight into the generator socket of the house, don't need any "middle man" power generator as such. Car has a 15A output socket and house can have 15A Input socket so thatls a max of 3600w for the house. Cars like Kia EV6 etc can output the full 3600 as V2L.
@suvari225
@suvari225 9 күн бұрын
Another great video. After your Bolt video I glanced over the Tesla forums if it can be done on Teslas. Some people say the in-car computer monitors every typical draw from 12V (such as AC, usb-C, infotainment etc). If it detects unusual draw, it has means to prevent such things. It would be shame if it cannot be done on Teslas, but I wouldn’t be surprised. I couldn’t find anyone tried this on a Tesla. Would be nice if somebody does it. Thanks again!
@suvari225
@suvari225 9 күн бұрын
This is an excellent idea. I was in search for a relatively cheap battery powered home backup solution and I also do want to leverage our large EV battery! I actually purchased Delta 2 in Dec2023, just for backup purpose. But the including car charger draws only 8amp from the cigarette socket from my Model Y, But only gets around 113watts input. Alternator charging would be great to implement to Model Y. Do you know if anyone tried it on a Tesla? It would be great to see a video for people like me. Thanks again and I am a new subscriber now!
@keithw32123
@keithw32123 9 күн бұрын
Does this device .... make the car's 12 volt system look like a 20 volt solar panel to the Ecoflow Power Station? Does it limit the power to 800 watts max for over current protection? Does it have high temp shut down protection? low voltage protection? I think it does. Ecoflow engineers must have thought its not a good idea to connect directly from car to power station without some protection. The 12 volt "system" sees the attached EcoFlow dc to dc converter as "just another load" and sends the electrons down to it the same way it sees the AC/heater/heatpump/lights//stereo system so its not going to discharge the 12 volt battery if the electric car is "on". Right? Knowing the max power delivery of a dc to dc converter in a car seems useful these days. The VW ID4 dc to dc can produce 3000 watts from the traction battery while the car is on. The AC/Heater consumes around 1000 watts. It looks like a useful cheaper way to do Vehicle to Load to run stuff during a power outage or camping. For EV owners, its weird to see the word Alternator in the model name because we don't have one!
@brsm
@brsm 5 күн бұрын
The Alternator Charger monitors the incoming voltage and shuts down if it drops between a certain threshold, which you can configure. Typically, setting that to 13v ensures it only operates while your car is on.
@zr2ee1
@zr2ee1 9 күн бұрын
Funny enough I was looking at both of these things and never even considered using them together😂
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 күн бұрын
Glad to see the Rav4 also has a larger enough DC to DC converter to keep that 12v battery fully charged while running the 800w. Maybe one day I'll have a hybrid or electric car I can mess around with stuff like this.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 күн бұрын
Excellent video, what a deal on that bundle! Thanks for breaking down all the details. This is an awesome option if you have an EV!
@CubbyTech
@CubbyTech 9 күн бұрын
I'm guessing the Delta 2 cannot output 240v - but still a decent backup solution for almost any car! I'm kind of amazed they built the DC-DC converter with that kind of output...
@johndoe-oi7bq
@johndoe-oi7bq 7 күн бұрын
That unit can't but there are some ecoflow products that output 240 and I believe they're compatible with that alternator charger
@CubbyTech
@CubbyTech 9 күн бұрын
I'm curious what the car's DC-DC (alternator) converter is rated for? 800W is roughly 57A @ 14v - so a really good connection to the 12v battery is super important!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 күн бұрын
He talked about that in the video. He said it's rated for 1600 to 1800 watts.
@brsm
@brsm 9 күн бұрын
I also link a video by @JamesKlafehn in the description where he stress tests the DC-to-DC converter in the Prime.
@johnmiller4859
@johnmiller4859 9 күн бұрын
Weak. Show how to attach an inverter to the main traction battery. I have looked for several years and haven't found one that looks like it would reliably and economically convert the 200VDC to 220VAC.
@brsm
@brsm 9 күн бұрын
That's because the 350VDC (not 200) of an EV traction battery would kill or maim you instantly from a finger slip. It's not a practical solution for an average person, which is the point of this video. However, some people have done what you're describing, like this person who did it with a Chevy Bolt: www.chevybolt.org/posts/748051 Or this person who did it with a Nissan Leaf battery that was pulled from the car: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnm9iHqCr7lqnck
@johnmiller4859
@johnmiller4859 8 күн бұрын
@@brsm I've changed the batteries in these cars, so I am aware of the safety risks and how to do the work safely.
@shelay
@shelay 9 күн бұрын
This is really a cheap way to keep everything at home going in case of an outage. Nice one mate
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 күн бұрын
I mean.... do you have to purchase an electric car or hybrid first.
@Gretchen_Trouble
@Gretchen_Trouble 9 күн бұрын
This is brilliant!
@bdmenne
@bdmenne 11 күн бұрын
Awesome!!! Mines in the mail!
@didierpuzenat7280
@didierpuzenat7280 13 күн бұрын
Why not just a DC-AC converter ? From 200 € for 1500 W. And of course you also save the price of the power station, so several thousand cheaper. Not to mention the weight and the space. And probably with a better efficiency.
@brsm
@brsm 11 күн бұрын
The 12v system of the car cannot handle the surges of home usage. For instance, if the fridge and microwave come on at the same time, consumption might go up to ~2400 Watts for a few minutes. This will cause the 12v battery in the car to rapidly drop and potentially go flat, leaving you with no car and no home power in an emergency. The power station can handle this kind of fluctuation while the car provides constant recharging. The cost difference between a good pure sine inverter alone (~$200) and this setup (~$800) is not enough to justify the decreased performance and increased risk of going with an inverter alone.
@jme8112strat
@jme8112strat 15 күн бұрын
I bought a bundle that included the alternator charger and an EcoFlow Delta two. When I got it out of the box, I hooked it up and got an error code right away. I contacted EcoFlow and they asked me to update the firmware. I’m still getting the same error code and up till now they have done nothing to help me
@jenesuispasbavard
@jenesuispasbavard 15 күн бұрын
Nice, what kind of cables are you using at the alternator charger end? XT150 doesn't seem to be a standard (or at least what Ecoflow calls XT150 seems to be proprietary).
@brsm
@brsm 15 күн бұрын
4mm banana plugs did the trick! amzn.to/4aXomSF
@Andrew-vr1mj
@Andrew-vr1mj 18 күн бұрын
Did you do anything special to keep the Bolt at 14.0v? Mine drops to 12.6v unless headlamps are on, and i had to manually configure the app to accept 12v
@brsm
@brsm 16 күн бұрын
Nothing special. I have a 2023 and it seems to automatically kick on the DC-to-DC converter when it detects a draw on the 12V battery.
@jenesuispasbavard
@jenesuispasbavard 18 күн бұрын
Any idea of the output voltage? Wondering if I can use this with my Anker F3800 battery which will accept 11-32V 10A or 32V-60V 25A through its XT60 ports. Also does this have an XT60 output option?
@brsm
@brsm 16 күн бұрын
Yes, I made a couple short videos about this. When not connected to an EcoFlow power station, the Alternator Charger puts out 40V at up to 12.5A (500W total), so it should work fine with the F3800. There's no official XT60 output cable yet, but you can make a custom cable, which I demonstrate..
@jenesuispasbavard
@jenesuispasbavard 15 күн бұрын
@@brsm Nice! Also discovered the Pecron 500W alternator charger yesterday; so now I gotta decide between the sleek Ecoflow with a janky custom cable or the janky Pecron with the provided cable lol.
@tumbleweed1976
@tumbleweed1976 18 күн бұрын
Fantastic! I like how you navigate your own needs above what is mainstream. Excellent work.
@mowcowbell
@mowcowbell 19 күн бұрын
Great idea, but for around $630 you can go to Harbor Freight and buy a Predator 3500w inverter generator. Way more power and you're not hooking up anything to your vehicle.
@bdmenne
@bdmenne 19 күн бұрын
Thanks for making this vid/Short. So I have the River 2 Pro and prefer to take it on most van trips instead of my heavier “home” station. You said this EF Alternator Charger hack of yours can “charge any power station that can handle 45V +. The Solar port xt60i. Can only tolerate: “220W Max, 11-30V, 13A”, so this won’t work according to your short. Any work arounds? Or could I just make sure the wattage flowing ON THE ECOFLOW 800WATT CHARGER APP is set to no more than 220 watts? On LONG vanlife trips I would perhaps take my Delta 2 max and I know I can max out the Alternator Charger then, ofc I would have to change the output port cable to what comes in the box, which does sound like a pain. Wonder how I could make that an easier swap. Was also curious about what it would take to have that Alt Charger charge my EF R2P and then use that to charge a backup LiFePO 12v 100 or 200ah battery. If you know how I could do all that I’d be happy to pay you $100 for this information written or in video. Thank you for your experimentation and sharing results.
@brsm
@brsm 16 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for watching. Unfortunately, it wouldn't work with the R2P because the Charger puts out a constant 40v, which is too high for the R2P input. You could charge the R2P with a normal car plug though and get a little over 100 Watts without needing the Alternator Charger at all.
@ucaguy09
@ucaguy09 8 күн бұрын
​@brsm Based on the most recent spec sheet from ecoflow. The River 2 Pro will accept 50v on the dc side. So while this would work, it would still be limited to 220w.
@bdmenne
@bdmenne 19 күн бұрын
Why wouldn’t it work for overlanding? Are you speaking of just Electric vehicle or gas powered vehicles?
@brsm
@brsm 16 күн бұрын
It'd be great for gas vehicles overland. For electric vehicles, it will eat into the range quite a bit, so you'd have to watch that carefully.
@BSB100022
@BSB100022 19 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video. Really looking forward to see how this performs on a plug-in hybrid.
@danieltimisan6820
@danieltimisan6820 22 күн бұрын
awesome video ! I’m interested in that blue adapter that takes 110v and puts it on both lines of the house any way you can post a link or tell us more pls
@brsm
@brsm 20 күн бұрын
Sure thing! Here you go: amzn.to/3ViRIoy
@alanm4300
@alanm4300 25 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! I have a Toyota Hybrid and very much look forward to your Rav4 video.
@newporttom
@newporttom 25 күн бұрын
Thank You !!! As a 2 Bolt household that was wondering about maybe getting an Ioniq 5 this really was the video I was looking for. A couple questions: What is that battery monitor you had in your 12v port? The trick I know about is to keep your power going with the car off. Have you tried that? I now gotta rewatch !! At some point I would like to see you set it up "permanently" !!
@brsm
@brsm 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! The monitor is this one, though there are many like it: amzn.to/3Vqa8VA
@-Enginerd
@-Enginerd 25 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you very much! Do you mind providing more detail on the surge events that were causing the car to fault? Any idea on their peak load and duration? How large was the Inverter you were using? I'm asking because my plan was to connect a 12V 2-3kW Inverter directly to the lead acid battery in my Bolt. My logic was a starter style battery like we have when paired with a large Inverter would avoid the commonplace Inverter tripping issue during a surge event such as a motor (e.g. a vacuum) starting. Continuous loads would just have to be below approx. 1.2kW. But now I'm rethinking that strategy after what you said about the car faulting.
@brsm
@brsm 25 күн бұрын
Yes, I had the same idea. I was using a 2kw inverter. I had a shop vac running (~800w) and a 1500w space heater with 4 settings (~375w per). When I hit the third setting on the space heater (~1925w total) the voltage dipped to 11.8v-11.9v and the car threw a "Service Battery Fault" error and wouldn't let me shift into gear anymore, even after charging the 12v battery back to full with a battery tender. Took me about 4 hours playing around with the car to get it working again. What ultimately worked was completely disconnecting the 12v battery and letting it sit a few minutes, then reconnecting the battery and turning the car on and off a few times.
@-Enginerd
@-Enginerd 24 күн бұрын
@@brsm I appreciate the insight. It sounds like a load for at least a couple seconds is what caused the voltage to sag enough where the car faulted. I think I can live with that limitation, but I understand why you went the direction you did. Especially after it took 4hrs to ensure your car could still be operational. My tinkering has led to that same feeling of dread when you're questioning if you just created a very expensive paperweight. I'm glad you got it sorted!
@AskIveSolar
@AskIveSolar 25 күн бұрын
Pretty sweet idea! Good job boss.
@ronbridegroom8428
@ronbridegroom8428 25 күн бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks. I have an Ioniq5 with built in Vehicle to Load capability of 1,900 watts AC which was one of the reasons why I purchased the vehicle. Your solution is a good one for EV's that do not have the V2L capability built in. I like your creative thinking. Keep up the good work.
@bfvader
@bfvader 19 күн бұрын
We went camping last month and I was able to run a 1700W electric deep fryer via the V2L adapter on my Kia EV6. Off-grid Fish & Chips at the beach! :)
@johndoe-oi7bq
@johndoe-oi7bq 7 күн бұрын
@@bfvader That's pretty cool, my highlander hybrid has a 1500 watt inverter built in. It's much quieter than a 1500 watt generator
@kiko_vid4569
@kiko_vid4569 26 күн бұрын
I was thinking about doing this. Now for sure. Thanks for the video !!
@luidabruin
@luidabruin 27 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the plug in hybrid video
@peTeMelster
@peTeMelster 27 күн бұрын
So are you hooked up directly to the 12v battery or to the DC-DC converter?
@brsm
@brsm 27 күн бұрын
Technically, both. You connect to the 12v battery terminals, which are also connected to the DC-to-DC converter.
@heart4Pahoa
@heart4Pahoa 26 күн бұрын
I like this setup, but I would caution anyone about plugging in their EV into the Delta II for 120V charging in case they were pondering this. It would create a very dangerous loop. We actually had our home 120V wired on one leg of our home panel so we could isolate power via the circuit breakers. This setup could effectively run our entire home 120V as long as we keep the load under 1800W and 20A limit of the Delta II. Thanks for sharing.
@peTeMelster
@peTeMelster 26 күн бұрын
@@heart4Pahoa sorry not understanding. Can you elaborate on what the problem is?
@DroneSurf
@DroneSurf 29 күн бұрын
This is a great video. Do you know how much is the inverter in your EV? I know my Highlander Hybrid is 1500W capable. Hope that does not overheat the inverter from the EV but if you mentioned has active cooling, it should do its job.
@brsm
@brsm 28 күн бұрын
The Bolt has a DC-to-DC converter that is rated up to 130A, which works out to roughly 1800W. So the 800W draw by the Alternator Charger doesn't have any discernable impact on the car in my experience.
@DroneSurf
@DroneSurf 28 күн бұрын
Yes with those numbers should be fine!!! Nice setup buddy!!!
@hardtruth2039
@hardtruth2039 29 күн бұрын
Great video. I posted a limiting your video in the official EcoFlow group on Facebook. We ordered the delta 2 max w/ alternator charger deal on Amazon as well as two extra batteries. Looking forward to the release of the xt60 cable. I already had the HD battery clamps ordered so I can use it in multiple vehicles.
@DroneSurf
@DroneSurf 29 күн бұрын
Just make the cable by your self. Ecoflow sells cables with only 12 AWG or 14 AWG cables. I will build it with 10 or 8 AWG if is me.
@brsm
@brsm 20 күн бұрын
It's tricky because the output is XT90 but in a proprietary version that won't fit a standard XT90 connector. I'll talk more about this in a future video when I demo hooking up the Charger to a grid tie inverter. 🙂
@BSB100022
@BSB100022 19 күн бұрын
@@brsm I'm hoping that EcoFlow is going to actually release an XT60i cable to hook-up to the solar port of their Delta units, instead of just a "normal" XT60. It's my understanding that the "i" version should be able to handle the full 800+ watts, whereas an XT60 (no "i") can only handle around 500 watts (or even less)... or, so I've heard.
@BillCarlson
@BillCarlson 29 күн бұрын
This is a great idea! And the price is pretty reasonable, too. $800 to be able to convert your Bolt into a generator that can power your essentials during an outage is pretty awesome.
@peTeMelster
@peTeMelster 28 күн бұрын
There was a $399 promo (alternator charger alone) not too long ago. I think that's worth it, but the regular price of $599 is a bit spendy for me. The package deals with various EcoFlow batteries were pretty sweet though.
@l.christoffersen7502
@l.christoffersen7502 Жыл бұрын
*sips monster* dawn of war, now that was a real game
@xoIsaac
@xoIsaac 6 жыл бұрын
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