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No, because the deity in the pledge is non-denominational, not specific to any one religion or religious text.

Honestly I appreciate your response, this post has garnered over a thousand comments between here and another platform where it went wild. I believe you’re the only one I’ve seen asking about the pledge of allegiance. This is a great comparison and I think a relevant topic to debate in the realm of separating church and state.

Yes...there's no reason for anyone to "pledge allegiance" to any piece of fabric!! Btw...I'm a combat veteran

Nothing wrong, per se. But they can be taught without violating the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the Constitution. More to the point, if Christians can mandate the teaching of their principles in public schools then Muslims can demand that their principles be represented as well. For example, I suspect you would not be comfortable if your child or grandchild was taught the principles of Islam, which include the doctrine of jihad, which is the act of promoting Islam, usually through war, against unbelievers (infidels), referred to as "those who resist Islam."

@@chrisikaris5891 If I want my children to be taught islam, I would migrate to Pakistan. or maybe Saudi . This is the USA, under GOD. a Christian God.

@tonimartin4828 FYI, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA, mainly due to Muslim immigration to the USA and high birth rates among Muslim immigrants. Like it or not, the USA is, even from early times, a religiously diverse country with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of different faiths, and growing more diverse every year. The point of the Establishment clause of the First Amendment is that it forbids the government from favoring one religion over another. If any religious group is given the right to post religious messages or texts in school classrooms then any other, or many other, religious groups or denominations can do likewise. So if you want a particular religious text you like in classrooms, then you should not be surprised to see other texts from other religions introduced, including ones you might not like. P. S. "Under God", as well as "In God We Trust", do not refer to the god of Christianity or any other particular religion. When "God" was inserted in to the Pledge of Allegiance and on money in 1956, it was merely done to contrast the USA with the officially atheist Soviet Union.

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If it’s in direct conflict with the constitution then it’s absolutely not a state issue

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Because people aren't able to look past the surface level to think critically about it.

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What amendment would that violate?

@@BasilHagens what ammendment does having the 10 commandments on a piece of paper inside of a school violate?

​@DumbDeeDumb5265 .... Uhhhh.... the very First Amendment.

@@jasonw7521 nope it doesn't, the first ammendment states: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances It does not say you're not allowed to have religious material displayed in government spaces it is only illegal to do so if doing so provides preferential treatment to that religion over others

This isnt how you convert people to christ. Having been a disgruntled catholic and coming back to the faith, I can guarantee you talking like this just pisses people, like the woman in this video, as well as some in the comments off. (Not that your message is wrong or incorrect) Just not how you introduce people who are anti christian, to christ.

You sound a lot like the people banning books 3 years ago.

@@MichaelLopez-dn6gg I work at a bookstore and I could never burn a book. However the church in my small town (south Texas) burned many books as I grew up that had anything to do with science, other religions, same sex, or even mixed race!

@@brandonlrushman2870 So you are saying some books, or even small parts of those books don't belong in a public classroom? How is that not a book ban? Don't get me wrong I agree that this is crossing a line. I also agree that a lot of other philosophy books/symbols don't belong in public classrooms. Anything "Moms for Liberty" wants out should probably also go. Also "Pride," (both Gay Pride and White Pride,) "BLM" and "Antifa" Flags should also go.

Are you for "Book Bans?" The Ten Commandments are an exert from a book.

I know how you feel. I’m against the Left shoving their gay/pedophilia propaganda onto my five-year-old but we rarely hear from outraged teachers about this.

Then stop ignoring what is said because it's said by a person who believes in a higher power than themselves. I believe you will be a far happier person if you chose to view the things people say as "how will this thing improve myself as a human being" because if you looked at the 10 commandments that way you could see them something like Don't paint people in a dishonest or overly cruel light Don't use impactful words or phrases if you don't truly mean them Set aside a day of the week to remember everything you love and care about Remember and cherish the ones who cared for you as you grew up Don't murder people Don't have relations with someone who already has a significant other Don't steal Don't lie about people And be happy with what you have while striving to earn more without being jealous of what other people have

@@DumbDeeDumb5265 I don’t have to be religious to follow those values, if christianity was just following the 10 commandments I would probably follow it. However, there’s also the bible, testaments, and belief in god-which I’m not willing to follow. But just because I choose not to follow doesn’t mean I ignore what is said. You make assumptions about me without knowing me. I am a happy person, I’m smart, I love my life, I love my friends and family. All that happiness in my life comes from my family, my friends, and myself. Me and my loved ones have worked hard and struggled for my happiness and success, I’m not going to attribute that to some god. I am perfectly happy to live my life the way I want, all I’m asking you to do is let me. I don’t need to fill a gap that isn’t there.

@@MichaelLopez-dn6gg no, I’m not for book bans. There’s a huge difference between something being allowed to exist and something being taught and displayed front and center, and you know it.

NO, you are getting the wrong lesson. The Left fought tooth and nail to prevent book bans. The Ten Commandments are taken from a book. The Left opened Pandora's box.

If you try to "Book Ban" it I imagine that none of the people that were up in arms over stopping book bans a few years ago will make a sound. in fact i would imaging that many people in the comments here were against "book bans" and are opposed to displaying exerts from this book. And they don't see the connection.

The difference is one is a real religion and the other is a false ideology.

@MichaelLopez-dn6gg I never researched all the various books that were banned. Some I would agree with banning, others I may not. When it comes to the three Abrahamic books, Old Testament, New Testament, and the Quran, despite some of the graphic writings, I wouldn't be against banning them in schools, even Elementary school. However, I am against mandating that certain aspects of the bible be mandated for display. Again, there's a big difference between allowing access towards these religious books and even teaching how they play a part in both history and current affairs, versus mandating that they be displayed as if to imply that these commandments supercede both the constitution and or other religious beliefs.

I think it shouldn't be looked at as religion being in the school and more what's being displayed and what message it conveys, most of the 10 commandments you could view as entirely removed from a religious mentality and still benefit a great deal from them as a person which is what I hope the school is going for.

@remowilliams7569 that may be your belief, but it's not the belief of the 2 billion Muslims in the world. And keep in mind that the Simularities of the Quran and the Old and New Testament is probably close to 90%. Pretty much all the same prophets are in the Quran including Moses along with mentioning the 10 commandments. The only difference is slight differences in idealogy, Jew's give Bible precedence, Christians give Jesus precedence, and Muslims give God precedence over the writings and Jesus. However all are inherently entwined. Regardless of all that, this mandate is still a fundamental clash with the idealogy behind the constitution.

Glad to see someone else gets it.

This is a controlled test, We had Leftist outrage over banning gay themed books, the defense of those books was, books are to important to ban. Now here is an exert from a book. If this results in Leftist outrage, it negates all criticism of book bans. iSkip "touche" it goes straight to "Check and Mate."

@@MichaelLopez-dn6gg that's apples to oranges.

@@MichaelLopez-dn6ggExcept nobody was ever mandating that gay book excerpts be posted on the wall of every classroom… and nobody is trying to ban the bible, get a grip

​@@BrownSugar-ms6lj Are you saying that my mixed metaphor of Fencing and Chess are apple and oranges?

@@moose9891 Yeah, keep telling yourself that you are not banning books/art/ music.

Not even an argument. Christianity plays no role in whether a child learns moral decency or not. There is absolutely no reason for the ten commandments specifically to be displayed front and center in classrooms.

@@roxy5659 that is factually incorrect. A vast majority of happy and successful people were raised under religious teachings even if they themselves aren't religious anymore

@@DumbDeeDumb5265 a vast majority raised under non-religious households are also happy and successful. I’m not saying that people raised in religious households aren’t moral, I’m saying that religion isn’t necessary for someone to have morals. I don’t see how that can be argued, why violate the founding rules of our nation when completely unnecessary??

It goes against the principles upon which our country was founded.

@@nathancawley6944 it would be if the school was attempting to force the student body to convert to Christianity which it doesn't seem like is the case. It has as much religious weight to it as teaching Christian history in school

Just having scripture plastered where everyone can see is inappropriate. Leave religion in private religious schools where it belongs.

@@nathancawley6944 I definitely disagree with you there, the best way to create animosity towards something is to refuse to acknowledge anything good about it which doing so in a school would cause an entire generation to be brought up hating an entire ideology because they were only taught a fraction of what it is. And for having no scriptures anywhere in a school, does that extend to what students have written too? Because if you go that far quotes from people in general should be banned too since the people who give those quotes could be religious or atheist which is still a stance on religion which would create a background for their thoughts towards their quote

@DumbDeeDumb5265 the government can not favor one religion or another, and that is what the new law would do. Students and teachers are free to express their beliefs according to the First Amendment.

Ok??? What makes you think we care.

@@woah_Knowledge pause the video a few seconds in and look at her face. she looks like a crazy angry chick. Why so angry? Deep down everyone knows God is real. All people pray to God right before they die. It is natural because he is real. You have to be in a hard enough position to finally drop your b.s. and be humble.

The issue is that it goes against the principles that our country was founded upon. Separation of church and state.

@@nathancawley6944 prayer was in the schools until the 1960s. Prayer is an issue for witchcraft. If you pray over a school demons are not allowed to enter. This makes all witchcraft ineffective. Getting rid of prayer was an effort to get GOD’s presence out of schools. This is hard to understand if one doesn’t even know God is real. Life is a bigger game than most people understand. Christians try to save, heal, and help people while the other side seeks fame, power, and wealth.

@@nathancawley6944 the country was not founded on separation of church and state it was founded on the principles of freedom so what you should be toting is "freedom of religion is not being properly represented"

And then we stopped because it was inappropriate.

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@@nathancawley6944 "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible with liberty and justice for all." I said this every morning when I was in school and it never hit me how important that oath was until after i got out of school because it's not just something you have to say before class starts it's a promise to understand what the country was founded on and, even if the country strays from it, to stay loyal and strive to achieve the ideal so you can get as close to it as possible because while I believe God is a being who loves me and no matter how far I stray, just like a loving father, wants nothing more than for me to succeed and be the best thing I can be for myself and those around me so when I say this pledge and announce that this ideal is supported by God I'm saying this is an undeniably righteous goal that all should strive for regardless of if you yourself are religious

💯 I think the dept of education will have to step in on this

I don't know, Where did you stand 3 years ago on book bans? Because opposition to this means that in some cases "Book Bans" even a small exert from a book is justified. The questions become, which books should be banned? and to whom do we look for justification?

@MichaelLopez-dn6gg this has nothing to do with books. This is putting religious imagery in a place that should be exempt from religious imagery. To do this means they also must put up Islamic imagery, Buddhist, flying spaghetti monsters commandments etc etc. It shouldn't be in a classroom

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@@BeauBoJoJo Banning 10 commandments monuments would be more like banning "PRIDE" flags, that is true of both Gay Pride and White Pride. But it also falls into the category of Book Bans, because they come from a book.

ok but not every child is Christian

@@roxy5659 ok, but every child will grow into an adult molded by their childhood so shouldn't we try and raise them to be the best they can be? Statistically people who hold to a moral conduct heavily resembling or being that of religions are far more successful in life shouldn't we strive to make the next generation more successful than we were?

@@DumbDeeDumb5265 where are you getting these statistics from? Happiness and success are a very arbitrary thing to measure. What defines success? That’s different for every person. There are so many things that screw with the results of statistics like that, size of the experiment pool, control groups (or lack therof), age, economic standing, etc. ie less younger people are religious now, but also not successful compared to their older counterparts because they’re young. Even if it’s a valid statistic, it’s not your job to raise someone else’s child. I don’t like to generalize large groups, I don’t dislike christians as a whole and most are very good, but then there are christians that want to be up in everybody’s business-granted, there are those types of people in any religion. Stop trying to encroach on my religious rights with your personal beliefs.

My opinion is I love it, and wish every state did this. So I say politely ma'am, you are very wrong. But theres the beauty of the internet, a place where we can both share our own opinions. God bless you, have a great day. Edit: I would also like to say this, if the Ten Commandments are such a bad thing to have in a classroom, then why are LGBTQ flags and extremely sexual childrens books displayed in schools too. If anything there shouldnt be any political, moral, ethical, racial, religious, and sex/gender flags, doctrines or slogans in a school and classroom. You are missing the bigger picture here. Plus a state government and its voters have the right to vote on what they want; the federal government should not get to decide (as orginally intended by America's founding fathers).

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