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@trickysam04
@trickysam04 12 сағат бұрын
Another stately tempo from Thirtle - though not as sedate as some of his others. The low brass really exaggerate the dotted quaver/semiquaver lines, possibly in emulation of the German style. The march is German, after all (Alte Kameraden)
@DaveAinsworth-y8h
@DaveAinsworth-y8h 13 сағат бұрын
The Keel Row was the Double March of the Light Infantry and but of Double March of The Rifles.
@brianaltham1015
@brianaltham1015 Күн бұрын
A pleasure. Thank you. For me there is something attractive about well played records of this time.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 Күн бұрын
The correct title is "Colonel J Ward", composed by W J Cheesman, bandmaster of the 8th Hussars.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 22 сағат бұрын
Thanks once again Bob! I've amended the title and notes.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 Күн бұрын
I expect its Canopus - named in honour of HMS Canopus RN training base at Alexandria in WW2.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer Күн бұрын
Cheers Bob - I bet that's it! It's definitely how the announcer pronounces it, having listened to it again!
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer Күн бұрын
I've amended the title, and description - Thanks again!
@The_Sprinklez
@The_Sprinklez Күн бұрын
Perhaps the title is "Canopus?" Certainly sounds that way when the announcer says it, though the handwritten label does look more like "Canopeus" or similar. Good march either way!
@iansmart-fz5iq
@iansmart-fz5iq Күн бұрын
I's go for Canopus as well as there was an HMS Canopus
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer Күн бұрын
@iansmart-fz5iq I think you are right, I've listened again to the announcer - definitely sounds like Canopus - Thanks!
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 Күн бұрын
Thirtle is taking this around 108 bpm, which is quite stately, but it works well.
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 Күн бұрын
King Cotton was always played during the Trooping the Colours parade of the Royal Guards of Thailand (and again this year when the parade was resurrected after many years) when the cavalry component of the parade trots past. No idea why they use this tune for that purpose, but I suspect the former King Bhumibol Adulyadej would have picked it himself.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer Күн бұрын
Absolutely fascinating stuff....I'll attempt to slip it into the conversation next time I'm in the pub!
@donalddodson7365
@donalddodson7365 Күн бұрын
Fanfair.
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 2 күн бұрын
The British military have THE most splendid marches!
@Hjaltland60
@Hjaltland60 3 күн бұрын
Great march! William J Dunn is the father of Vivian Dunn who was Director of music of the Royal Marines. William also had a brother Augustus Joseph Dunn who was a musical director himself with the Coldstream Guards and Royal Artillery bands and composed the March "For Country’s Flag".
@DSR299
@DSR299 3 күн бұрын
Wonderful!
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 2 күн бұрын
Many thanks for watching!
@donwellington4677
@donwellington4677 4 күн бұрын
Another old favourite of mine !
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 4 күн бұрын
A bit different to Gentleman Jim's rendition with Max Collie....
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 4 күн бұрын
You can say that again!!
@iansmart-fz5iq
@iansmart-fz5iq 4 күн бұрын
Is the composer the same one as "Bond of Friendship"?
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 4 күн бұрын
No, Bond of Friendship was composed by J. Mackenzie Rogan who was Bandmaster and Director of Music of the Coldstream Guards. I don't have any information about the composer of this march. Thanks for watching!
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 7 күн бұрын
That is somewhat confusing as there is also the St Julien march by Arthur W. Hughes floating around.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 6 күн бұрын
Aha...most interesting....more research required.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 6 күн бұрын
Hello again, just done some research on this march by Hughes - see the amended description!
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 6 күн бұрын
@@MrTrapdrummer It might be safe to think Hughes wrote the march for the Canadian battalions present at St Julien and therefore two marches for the same battle exist. I read it was published in 1918 and he was Canadian, so it makes sense.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 6 күн бұрын
That must be it, it all makes sense!
@queen_ems
@queen_ems 7 күн бұрын
This is better in a slow tempo tbh. I hear bands play this march in a much higher tempo and it dint give the feeling n proper emotion ❤ slower one speak more 💕
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 8 күн бұрын
The busbies worn by officers of the RAF at this time were probably chosen to reflect the idea of them being "Hussars of the sky", and that is a fair comparison. They were oddly shaped because they were modelled on the flying helmets of the time. The Central band was issued with a similar "helmet" in 1930, and a smarter version of this replaced it in 1937 but was only worn for two years. In Silver Jubilee year 1977 it was decided to replace peaked caps with busbies once again and the third design that looked like it was modelled on Herman Munsters head was introduced, with a black leather chinstrap, later replaced by a linked chain. Perhaps they did not look too bad but I'm sure when they were replaced by peaked caps once again a decade and a half ago the musicians were not sorry about it.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 7 күн бұрын
Thanks Martin, excellent information as always. I scanned the RAF types from the 1935 Drill and Ceremonial Manual, every household should have a copy....
@brianaltham1015
@brianaltham1015 8 күн бұрын
excellent just as it is. Every section spot on
@davidjackson3833
@davidjackson3833 8 күн бұрын
Quite interested in what looks like glimpses in colour of pre war tunic with correct Holt sword etc and GR buttons !?!
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 7 күн бұрын
It is indeed a pre war tunic with correct GeorgeV buttons, belt brasses etc. I collect them, and have a full set of all the five Guards regiments. The photographs were taken in my garden. The tunics are featured in lots of the other videos as well. As well as the music, I'm really interested in the history of the bands and the uniforms, and have a large archive of old photographs, postcards etc etc. Thanks for watching - much appreciated!
@davidcoxall3270
@davidcoxall3270 8 күн бұрын
A wonderful march taken perhaps at too brisk a pace.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 8 күн бұрын
Yes, I agree, I even slowed it down a bit, and It's a twelve inch record so there would have been time to play it a little slower...
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 8 күн бұрын
​@@MrTrapdrummer The rushed tempo seems to be a hallmark of most today's postings! Maybe Gibson had another appointment to get to!
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 8 күн бұрын
I am assuming this is an electric recording? The difference in tonal quality is clearly audible. But it sounds like they are still positioned acoustically, and recorded with very few mics - probably only one. Curious how they continue to dampen the cymbal as they had to for acoustic recording!
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 8 күн бұрын
Yep, it's electric, hence "Marconi Company's Process" on the label.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 8 күн бұрын
@@MrTrapdrummer Didn't notice that!!! Doh!!!
@billbrydon3725
@billbrydon3725 8 күн бұрын
You can almost see the dancers with "Speed the Plow."
@billbrydon3725
@billbrydon3725 8 күн бұрын
Obscure Regiment, obscure march. +2.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 8 күн бұрын
One of my old favourites. They play the trio very nicely the first time round, and don't overdo the cresc and dim markings as some conductors tend to do. This is very tastefully done. A little on the bright side, again - which makes the bugle-call effects after Trio I a little messy, unfortunately.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 8 күн бұрын
This one was new to me, I don't think I have any other recordings of it.
@billbrydon3725
@billbrydon3725 8 күн бұрын
I will always stop and have a listen for "The Contemptibles."
@billbrydon3725
@billbrydon3725 8 күн бұрын
Nice recording. At over four minutes long, what size platter is this?
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 8 күн бұрын
Hi, It's a twelve inch. Thanks for watching!
@billbrydon3725
@billbrydon3725 8 күн бұрын
@@MrTrapdrummer Hey, thanks for posting!
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 8 күн бұрын
First reaction: blimey - that's quick!!! Checking with my metronome Eldrige's tempo fluctuates between 132 and 140 bpm. I can't remember the original marking, but 120 bpm was considered the norm in my day.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 8 күн бұрын
Yes, quite right 120. It's even odder when you consider that it is recorded on a twelve inch which meant there was plenty of time for a more sedate performance!
@sirfox950
@sirfox950 9 күн бұрын
New batch of old timey marches 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 8 күн бұрын
I make no apologies, I'm gradually recording my entire collection for posterity, and the historical record.
@sirfox950
@sirfox950 6 күн бұрын
@@MrTrapdrummer good
@brianaltham1015
@brianaltham1015 9 күн бұрын
Is it me, or does this Lifeguards Band sound more accomplished than others of this period ( or indeed later )
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 9 күн бұрын
It was a very good band at this period, George Miller was an accomplished bandmaster, and of course, went on to have the Grenadier Guards Band from 1921 through to 1942 which was considered to be the premier band in the army.
@achantus1
@achantus1 10 күн бұрын
All perfomances now are in a much higher tempo. Why?
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 9 күн бұрын
I Agree, It certainly sounds better at a slower pace, much more atmospheric and stately.
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 15 күн бұрын
A great march for dancing . . . a fine addition to that quadrille of British marches!
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 15 күн бұрын
The Machine gun Guards were officially known as the 6TH regiment of Foot Guards (Guards machine gun regiment). The first three battalions were actually from the Household cavalry with a fourth from the Foot Guards and a fifth reserve and training battalion. Apparently, they took part in the great Trooping the Colours parade in Hyde park before disbandment in 1920.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 14 күн бұрын
I think I read somewhere that they marched past in slow time to "The Soldiers' Chorus" (Faust)
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 15 күн бұрын
May I take this opportunity to wish you and yours Mr Trapdrummer all good wishes for Christmas and all the best for the New Year ! The musical recordings and the old photographs are gold, much appreciation for your efforts and sharing it with us. Regards, Martin (Pommy in Australia).
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 14 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas Martin to you and yours from a damp and dank old England! Thanks for supporting the channel, and the excellent informative comments - keep them coming! I've recently been given a massive collection of about 600 military band 78s from a collector friend, so much work for next year integrating them with the current collection etc etc. It's becoming almost a full time occupation, what with dating the recordings, doing the research, digging out the photos, but worth it, I think, for getting it all out there, rather than having the collection hidden away. All the best for '25 Nick
@midnightteapot5633
@midnightteapot5633 15 күн бұрын
Alford made the change from minor key to major key on the repeat passage written into this march as he said to reflect his hope for the coming victory. He was always up to something in his marches.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 14 күн бұрын
Well, I never knew that! Brilliant.
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 15 күн бұрын
I love British marches, and this is a good one - perfect for one segment of a quadrille of British marches.
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 15 күн бұрын
This is a fine march - perfect for a segment of a quadrille of British marches!
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 15 күн бұрын
It's that pesky "Hushabye" by Monty Sunshine again!
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 15 күн бұрын
Ha. Played this one a few times! (But never with that Rit at the end!)
@patrioticarchive
@patrioticarchive 15 күн бұрын
A quote by Wellington during the battle of Waterloo
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 15 күн бұрын
Some very neat cornet work both by both the solo cornet and the whole section in the middle part. !
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 15 күн бұрын
The title is unfamiliar, but I recognise the march - I'm sure I've played it in the past.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 15 күн бұрын
It's a great march, and deserves more of an airing.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 17 күн бұрын
Ah! George Miller!
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 16 күн бұрын
Yes, he's back! Quite a few more with this band to follow, and then loads more recordings of him leading the Grenadier Guards - all part of the recent massive collection of 78s I was kindly given.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 16 күн бұрын
Miller must have known Charles Leggett personally...
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 16 күн бұрын
@@trickysam04 I'm sure he did even though Leggett was Scots Guards.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 16 күн бұрын
@MrTrapdrummer Yes, but it's all a close knit community. I'm sure it was back then, too.
@davidcoxall3270
@davidcoxall3270 18 күн бұрын
A classic march taken at an ideal tempo.
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 19 күн бұрын
Another fine march . . . it would be great as a segment of a quadrille of British marches.
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 19 күн бұрын
Another march that would serve well as one segment of a quadrille of British marches.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 21 күн бұрын
Great attention to detail, particularly dynamics, and note duration!
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 20 күн бұрын
Yes, I've never heard the British Grenadiers played so distinctly with accentuated phrasing!
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 24 күн бұрын
Excellent attention to dynamics!!!
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 24 күн бұрын
yes, very noticeable compared to other versions.
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 24 күн бұрын
Not Austrian, but Franz von Blon's march would lendcitself to the Austrian "hesitating" style - especially the opening strain. In fact, they almost go for it!
@trickysam04
@trickysam04 25 күн бұрын
I've just played this four times in a row!!! What happy memories. One of, if not THE first, marches I ever played way back when.
@MrTrapdrummer
@MrTrapdrummer 24 күн бұрын
Great! It's actually a new one to me, never heard it before, and don't have any other recordings of it in the collection!