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@josephmclennan1229
@josephmclennan1229 3 күн бұрын
Climate change is BS .
@PeterSkye
@PeterSkye 18 күн бұрын
If you make a poll on whether to prioritize economic growth vs environmental protection, it's likely that second one wins. But clearly not against eco-modernism, which aims to improve both. Having strong economy and thriving ecosystem at once. Good conversation!
@KeepItSimpleSailor
@KeepItSimpleSailor 3 ай бұрын
Private jet owners need you to eat less meat, dairy and eggs - please comply generously 😁
@derryperkin58
@derryperkin58 4 ай бұрын
What a bucket of Bull. This kind of stuff should be criminal.
@billgrayson9818
@billgrayson9818 4 ай бұрын
Most of the soy being fed to livestock can be viewed as a byproduct of the soya oil used in ultra processed human food. Without this pathway, soya meal would become a waste product.
@billgrayson9818
@billgrayson9818 4 ай бұрын
Where does Sara's figure for the $12tn societal damage cost of the global food system come from?
@rebeccaallen9917
@rebeccaallen9917 4 ай бұрын
Land used for grazing takes 37% of the world's ice free land. Stop the grazing and promoting of consuming animals and that land could be rewilded to sequester enough crbon to reverse climate change. See Dr. Raos published paper: Animal Agriculture is the leading cause of climate change.
@SudenDogan32
@SudenDogan32 6 ай бұрын
Perfect solution.
@thisstepreallysucks
@thisstepreallysucks 8 ай бұрын
Great example of begging the question.
@newhouseoxford
@newhouseoxford 8 ай бұрын
An excellent summary
@kellypr1
@kellypr1 9 ай бұрын
Cows & Bulls = Mature males weigh 450-1,800 kg (1,000-4,000 pounds) and females weigh 360-1,100 kg (800-2,400 pounds) The average Stegosaurus was about 30 feet long, between 9 and 13 feet tall, weighed about 5.5 tons (11,000 pounds). Methane would have also been produced by other herbivorous dinosaurs, most notably members of the Thyreophora (shield bearers), such as Stegosaurus.
@bono46
@bono46 5 ай бұрын
The time life of methane is somewhere in between 7 to 12 years. So all the methane produced by dinosaurs is already gone, like, many, many, maaaaany years ago. The levels of current methane are a consequence of animal farming, not dinosaurs.
@popeyegordon
@popeyegordon 9 ай бұрын
Is agroecology a solution or an agenda? No matter how much sociologists and lawyers prance around in white coats, their arbitrary political imposition goes against any interpretation of the scientific method. Agro-ecology agendas are trapping African farmers in poverty New study reveals: "That’s the finding of the first continent-wide meta-analysis of conservation agriculture experiments in Africa, and it threatens to completely up-end the dominant paradigm around agro-ecology. In recent years, agro-ecology has come to be seen as a virtual panacea in sub-Saharan Africa. Aid agencies, churches, development NGOs and United Nations agencies all now tie their support for resource-poor farmers to an explicitly agro-ecological agenda. NGOs are keen to offer anecdotal evidence for how these approaches can help smallholder farmers in Africa. Yet scientifically rigorous empirical evidence for the benefits of agro-ecology - also termed “conservation agriculture” - has so far been lacking. Until now, with the publication of a paper titled “Limits of conservation agriculture to overcome low crop yields in sub-Saharan Africa” in the peer-reviewed journal Nature Food. Scientists, who analyzed 933 observations across 16 countries in sub-Saharan Africa comparing conservation agriculture with conventional cropping, found that agro-ecological approaches do not substantially improve productivity and do not therefore help address the food insecurity of smallholder farmers. This is not because conventional tillage-based farming is better than conservation agriculture - in fact, as these results show, they are equally bad - but because the advocates for agro-ecology also tend push an ideological agenda that rejects scientific innovations such as biotechnology, hybrid seeds, mechanization, irrigation and other tools that might more reliably increase productivity for smallholder farmers in Africa. The study authors, led by Marc Corbeels, a specialist in sustainable intensification based at CIMMYT in Nairobi, Kenya, found that conservation agriculture did not improve yields in cotton, cowpea, rice, sorghum or soybean. Maize yields did show a 4 percent increase, but only if glyphosate pre-emergence herbicide treatments were applied, something which is strictly forbidden by agro-ecology advocates. In practice therefore, agro-ecology is likely to have no benefits at all to most farmers in Africa. In fact, it could even have negative effects. This is primarily because soil improvements from conservation agriculture require the use of crop residues as mulches. In dry conditions these can help retain moisture in the ground by reducing evaporation. However, crop residues are much more valuable to smallholder farmers as fodder for cattle and other livestock animals, which produce meat, milk and manure and are therefore much more important for safeguarding food security than a slight increase in maize yield. In the arid conditions of much of sub-Saharan Africa, there is simply no spare biomass to use in conservation agriculture. This is not to say that no-till systems have no benefits anywhere in the world. In fact, reduced or conservation tillage approaches have been widely adopted across North and South America, where they help to reduce soil erosion, conserve moisture and sequester carbon. Indeed, most of the carbon benefits of genetically modified crops - which removed 24 million tonnes of CO2 in 2016 - arise because herbicide tolerance traits allow farmers to adopt no-till practices. geneticliteracyproject.org/2020/08/03/viewpoint-agro-ecology-agendas-are-trapping-african-farmers-in-poverty/
@popeyegordon
@popeyegordon 9 ай бұрын
All movements start with causes and good intentions,” Mugwanya noted. “At its core it’s to promote taking care of social justice - I wouldn’t fight such a cause. The problem comes in when movements get so radical in terms of their ideology. What I’ve seen in Africa, the dominant version of agroecology to me as an ideological extension of the well-fed, privileged folks in in the West who run to places like Africa and use all these narratives like we don’t want Africa to go through the problems of the West, forgetting the contextual problems that Africa has. I’ve seen the problems you have here [in the US] and food is not one of them. Where I come from, I can tell you, I know what it means to go without a meal a day. We need to have a very honest and nuanced conversation about what kind of agroecology are you trying to promote? And are you really caring about the needs of the farmers, getting them out of poverty, helping them have more food, or are you caring for your ideology?” Mugwanya said that he wrote a critique of the dominant version of agroecology, which “seems to me to be a proxy word for fighting industrial practices.” However, he feels it “diverges from the scientific definition of agroecology, which doesn’t say you can exclude anything” in its practice. “Those with the louder voices, the ideological side, tend to push a point of view that’s very conservative,” that restricts options and can create additional burdens on women. Genetic Literacy Project dot org Oct 5, 2020
@joasia077
@joasia077 9 ай бұрын
Buyest at it's best, shining light on the matters in imbalance. I expect higher standard if you want to provide expert message. TABLE generator, why aren't you responding to valid comments below? Bait click.
@johnkilgallon207
@johnkilgallon207 10 ай бұрын
For this research to have even a scrap of legitimacy it should have been benchmarked against the thousands of years of stable atmospheric CO2 levels up to the industrial Era when humans started burning fossil fuels on a massive scale. How did that all that carbon we are burning now, get sequestered? We had huge herds of ruminants during all that period. Did all the cows start farting more all of a sudden? This is not research. it is propaganda!
@regenerationtrust5779
@regenerationtrust5779 Жыл бұрын
Total rubbish! An integrated approach with 24 hour rotational grazing and well designed Agroforestry is one of the only ways to restore our land and atmosphere. This is a huge difference from growing corn and soy and shoving the cows into feedlots. Please try and make a real case with real data!
@reason3581
@reason3581 Жыл бұрын
So, since you seem to have a strong opinion about it, did you read the entire report? Did you carefully go through their methodology and the data? The solution is not shoving the cows into feedlots, it’s consuming less beef and dairy. The way I see it is that if we continue to eat small amounts of beef it should come from well managed small scale grazing like silvopasture.
@murrayculix
@murrayculix Жыл бұрын
This is antiwhiteism. No white guilt
@preppingbasics
@preppingbasics Жыл бұрын
Many thanks to Holly Cecil for providing English subtitles and to the Association végétarienne de France (not affiliated with the FCRN) for providing French subtitles. You can also contribute subtitles in another language by clicking the three dots under the video and then "Add translations". an anti grazing video giving thanks to a vegetarian association, well that's transparency at🤣 least!!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😅😅🤣😂🤣😅😂🤣😅
@preppingbasics
@preppingbasics Жыл бұрын
pfft, immediately assumes forest clearing, and ignores reduced pesticide, more jobs, nutrient density of meat/dairy, combing with poultry free ranging, increased wildlife with reduced impact as pastures are not a mono culture of soy or maize, water retention, no phosphate run off, and then adds using land for animal feed(however that was interpreted)...talk about cherry picking!!!
@OVELHOCHICO85
@OVELHOCHICO85 Жыл бұрын
Maravilhoso
@vegandew
@vegandew Жыл бұрын
In short: *GO PLANT-BASED* Why do we keep playing MENTAL GYMNASTICS instead of accepting the facts?
@rebeccaallen9917
@rebeccaallen9917 Жыл бұрын
Wildlife are not raised and killed by the billions as babies. Raising animal to be killed is exploitive. Nature is telling to stop.
@rebeccaallen9917
@rebeccaallen9917 Жыл бұрын
There are billions in subsidies means it is not sustainable. Thank you for the program. I wonder what you think now that COP26 is done.
@rebeccaallen9917
@rebeccaallen9917 Жыл бұрын
Ecologist: small farms are less efficient than the CAFOs, who save due to crowding and transportation costs, etc. There is plenty of data already to make good choices and stop animal agriculture.
@rebeccaallen9917
@rebeccaallen9917 Жыл бұрын
Wildlife are not bred like livestock are. Killed as babies, more bred killed as babies, a very different amount methane.
@rebeccaallen9917
@rebeccaallen9917 Жыл бұрын
billions of bred animals are killed per year
@rebeccaallen9917
@rebeccaallen9917 Жыл бұрын
I recommend the published report that 87% of green house gases are due to the animal agriculture and the opportunity cost of the deforestation caused by the animal agriculture. Even the father of climate change, James Hansen, said the best thing an individual can do is stop eating beef. According to the IPCC, 43% of ice free land is used for feeding animals. Almost 40% of that used to be forested. By simply stopping animal agriculture we can restore forests and grasslands and sequester enough carbon to take our greenhouse gases back to the 1700s.
@rebeccaallen9917
@rebeccaallen9917 Жыл бұрын
Just because some have protein deficiency does not mean livestock is needed. There is the more sustainable, less resource using plant protein.
@christopherwalton1373
@christopherwalton1373 Жыл бұрын
Some carbon went into the roots(not eaten) some into exudates on the roots for microorganisms (not eaten) some into meat, bone, manure (Most of which feeds microorganisms and stored as organic matter) wool in sheep, milk etc…… how dose the methane burped out equal the same amount of co2?? You cant make mass! How can the carbon be in all these places and still be back in the atmosphere?? Sequestration. If you don’t plough it up it’s stored for ever, problem solved 👍
@bismarkbizmark5639
@bismarkbizmark5639 Жыл бұрын
Millions of bison grazing for millennia and the climate was fine
@jackgregory7997
@jackgregory7997 Жыл бұрын
𝓅𝓇o𝓂o𝓈𝓂
@sourcepotato_bwobby
@sourcepotato_bwobby Жыл бұрын
I am the 32nd person to view this video.
@REGENETARIANISM
@REGENETARIANISM Жыл бұрын
Where did my prior comments go?
@domonkosvarga7243
@domonkosvarga7243 Жыл бұрын
were they removed?0.o
@Bandybear
@Bandybear Жыл бұрын
I watched the video almost in its entirety and learned nothing new ! Don’t even bother!
@Bandybear
@Bandybear Жыл бұрын
Propaganda - they won’t talk about regenerative agriculture tell later they are first discussing carbon and the grazing animals being the problem. How very on par with the agenda these institutions are shoving down everyone’s throat but what did i think would be discussed here ? Just more of the same thing and it’s not good for the people. It’s good for a few and the rest will suffer , bravo scientists your doing so much for the future of humanity.
@davidighernandez
@davidighernandez Жыл бұрын
Hundreds of years ago millions of bisons roamed almost all over America. Is not reasonable that even when this grazing animals were eating carbon levels remained stable, I do believe this video is biased instead of looking for grazing animals that were already in the environment. Another thing is that carbon even with regenerative grazing has a carbon loss because cows are being degraded elsewhere. With more carbon in the ground, more cover in the soil the carbon uptake increases dramatically.
@robbieroberson1488
@robbieroberson1488 Жыл бұрын
Why is organic matter 4% in a pasture and 1% in your yard?
@petersimpson6814
@petersimpson6814 Жыл бұрын
A newly planted forest is a net carbon emitter for the first 20-25 yrs of its life so present policy of paying multinationals millions of pounds of taxpayers money to greenwash is contributing to world carbon emissions for that period as well asremaving valuable food producing land.If livestock only produce 11.6% of global emissions maybe we should be looking at the near 60% growth in human population in 70 yrs who are the real polluters.
@johnslack9328
@johnslack9328 Жыл бұрын
Grassland carbon contains more carbon then all the forests on the planet. Wow how was all that carbon sequestered? Perhaps through deep rooted, (in excess of 5 metres), perennial grasses that would not exist if not for symbotic migrating herbivores. Suggesting that we leave these great sinks of carbon alone is an astonishing comment because it does not take into consideration that many of the great bread baskets of the world are grasslands, which are now devoted to monocultures that have irrefutably resulted in significant carbon losses and soil degradation. I just finished reading a UN scientific paper on the ability of deep rooted grasslands in Colombia capable of sequestering 100 to 504 Tg C/yr. Is that the others you refer to in your video. I suggest if you want to challenge the academic merit of an apposing argument it would be only fair to be more specific then others and list these academic institutions as you so have kindly left yours.
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 Жыл бұрын
Interesting topic.
@raykowalchuk3812
@raykowalchuk3812 2 жыл бұрын
03:50 Dr. Garnett: "I'd like you to just kind of set up your stall in what you feel the real causes of the livestock problems we face today are and what your visions of a bad livestock future and a desirable livestock future might look like." Really, those are the options? This false dichotomy presupposes that livestock have any upside at all, the baseline for folks like these who defend the Eurocentric privilege of meat consumption (using cultural arguments -- Eastern or Western -- as justification). The problem with livestock is the APPETITE of the "problem solvers" themselves, including Dr. Garnett who struggles mightily defending her flexitarian choices. At 01:27 she says, "[the livestock issue] is an area where scientific understanding is fraught contested and the upshot of this is that the evidence gets pulled and pushed in different directions." Makes me think of when she coauthored a 2011 article (in a feed journal, nonetheless) with the livestock representatives from the FAO to debate Dr. Robert Goodland, a climate and environmental assessment specialist of impeccable reputation. "Scientific vigour" to Herrero et. al. seems to be "one and done" since none of the dozen authors (several of questionable authority and bias) responded to Goodland's rebuttal. I can think of no greater setback to mitigating livestock emissions than the orchestrated dismissal of Goodland and Anhang's research, especially since today's understanding reveals their calculations to be conservative and the GWP100 metric to be revealed as "creative carbon accounting" politically motivated to deprioritize methane emissions. The removal of bias remains a key element in the Scientific Method. While the fossil fuel industry offers up much analysis towards tweaking their emissions and managing their interests "beyond petroleum," why on Earth would we ever value their opinions or trust their research? The parallels with the livestock industry are profound, with the exception that the flavour of electrical power from coal or renewables are indistinguishable to to the consumer. The privileges of meat consumption keeps the future of livestock on *The Table.*
@dietistlinn8806
@dietistlinn8806 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this! THANK YOU
@MIKOOL13
@MIKOOL13 2 жыл бұрын
I’m confused! So the paper admits that soil carbon sequestration works but it might not work forever? So we shouldn’t do it at all?. And we shouldn’t convert grasslands to croplan but we should eat more crops and less ruminats?
@DarkDeepGreen
@DarkDeepGreen 2 жыл бұрын
What is clear is that it takes more land for animal agriculture. About 80 % is used for animals and animal feed. Switching to a plant based diet would require a lot less land. Land that could be used for rewilding, which would reverse climate change.
@MIKOOL13
@MIKOOL13 3 ай бұрын
Who’s going to pay for framers ranchers for land to be unused and rewind? Wild buffalo and large ruminates are gone. We can use cattle to rewind massive grass lands. Rotational grazing increases wildlife on grass lands.
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@jagatheesanchandrasekharan7248 2 жыл бұрын
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@maxking9712
@maxking9712 2 жыл бұрын
interesting discussion. thanks
@gettingnew500
@gettingnew500 2 жыл бұрын
vegans send their undigested plants to the sewage treatment plant for methanogenesis, methanogenesis starts on the way, in the canal under the city.
@mumofthomas
@mumofthomas 2 жыл бұрын
What a depressing discussion. The status quo advocate arguing for even more subsidy for the livestock industries. The ecologist seems to want to cover the whole planet in cows irrespective of whether they belong there or not. He then claimed climate change is caused by albedo effect and forget greenhouse gases. Is this stuff for real? The analyst woman advocating for biodiversity was the most coherent.
@MrVala77
@MrVala77 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like video advocating that everyone go on a plant based diet. Totally misleading.
@gettingnew500
@gettingnew500 2 жыл бұрын
yes, because vegans send their undigested plants to the sewage treatment plant for methanogenesis, methanogenesis starts on the way, under the town.
@XnecromungerX
@XnecromungerX 2 жыл бұрын
This video is incredibly stupid. Just stop for one moment and think: Where did the carbon come from? Co2>Plant>Cow>Methane>Co2>Cow. The cow simply used a carbon atom and gave it back with 0 introduced new carbon atoms. The only introduction of carbon atoms is through excavation of carbon that was stored underground and burning it. Cows and plant life are the carbon cycle and contribute nothing and are merely part of a system that feeds back into itself. Besides this, the manure generates more plant life to also capture more co2.
@gettingnew500
@gettingnew500 2 жыл бұрын
cows are c a r b o n neutral. like humans. vegans send their undigested plants to the sewage treatment plant for methanogenesis, same reaction like cows but.. extracorporeal 👍👍👍
@espm116b9
@espm116b9 2 жыл бұрын
Please add what happens to all the vegetation not consumed by livestock. Decomposition will release CO2, as does wildfire.
@keith4596
@keith4596 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Ken Giller realizes he spent his whole career making things worse for farmers, people and the environment? His points are silly. So relying solely on life in the soil when you've destroyed all the life in the soil is a bad idea? Thanks Dr. Obvious! I guess we have no alternative but to continue destroying soil health, our health, the financial health of farmers and the health of the planet with ever-more costly chemical inputs? The principles of covering the soil, reducing or eliminating soil disturbance, increasing diversity, keeping a living root in the soil as long as possible, integrating livestock and understanding your context WILL work anywhere in the world. Saying the UK developed as woodlands is a reason to dismiss livestock shows he doesn't understand nature. There are no places on earth where plants grow that herbivors do not exist. Saying depleated soils cannot produce crops without chemical inputs is true. So implement RA and reduce the chemicals over time. Saying tree roots compete with crop roots is also true- so don't plant trees as cover crops. Noting what works in the US may not work in the UK or Africa is also obvious. I guess that's why Context is one of the principles- one he doesn't seem to understand. Hard to believe he was a Soil Biologist and never figured out that healthy soils depend on biological processes, not chemical. Sorry dinosaur, looks like a comet is headed your way. You and your kind had a good run...
@anonyme2087
@anonyme2087 2 жыл бұрын
And this guy works for the Wageningen Center for Agroecology and Systems Analysis :P Not only does he completely empty the meaning of the words "context" or "system", but his whole analysis is in fact limited to a few isolated parameters, in a quite convenient way. This is how he comes to claim that fertilizer inputs are not a problem if they do not represent a direct toxicological risk for consumers, leaving aside the long-term impacts on the soil ecosystem, on the associated costs and volatility, on the dependence of farmers on industries, on the environmental cost related to the synthesis of these fertilizers / mining, etc. I find it quite ironic that he calls agroecology and RA silver bullet or vague, considering how sustainable intensification sounds like an oxymoron catch-all concept whose only purpose is to pretend reconciliating corporate and ecological interests, and by doing so denying all criticism of the global trade system and the agroindustries interests in which small farmers issues are embedded... No wonder that such a consensual and hypocrite concept suit so many actors - and generate so much projects and research funding... Wageningen, don't ask who is pulling the strings :D