@@btxbtxbtxbtxbtx if you’re in nirvana, lantern/thelema will probably perform better cause Lantern can farm a quick Stellar Outburst with SS Sera (if we‘re talking about the current abyss). Without SS Sera or below Nirvana I’d expect Thelema/Senadina to do better. Based on the current (EU) myriad Thelema/Senadina does better without Sera rank ups. Otherwise Thelema/Lantern seems to run better. For a more generic answer, it depends on how much use you can make out of Lantern‘s earlier Stellar Outburst, but a team with Senadina would outdo (slightly) dmg wise.

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dont question it

Well, I don't have Elysia or Songque Kiana provides some elemental buffs, so she at least has some use

@@Saiara_ ohh alright! thanks for answering

For Lantern it is to do the Combo after doing both Phantoms, she gains the stacks (right of her special bar, only during WoD Stellar Outburst) from Phantom attacks For Thelema it was cause her MoI wouldnt have fit into the Rondo duration left, so I decided to start the second one earlier to fit it in

@@Saiara_ Oh I see, ty!

@@shahriarchowdhury7871 Youre welcome!

In RL and below p1 tends to outdo due to the more consistent dmg. In nirvana p2 is better, yes. Also differs based on the abyss

Nope, no Sena

Meta wise Senadina is a top priority currently due to her highly universal support and niche SD DPS function:)

Depends on the rime trauma u need, if u only need one hold WA to freeze u can just do Basic x3 -> hold WA -> Basic x3 If u need more freeze 3 hold WAs will work

Elysia will be best, especially cause they seem to refuse giving us DS ranks And its cheaper as well, just make sure to activate the AR skills

Thanks!

3 Basics -> tap WA -> 3 Basics is slower, but it deals more DMG.

@@Saiara_ well lets try it

@@GxVenture ? Baic provides 120% atk multiplier and combo 75%, thats a pretty huge difference

@@Saiara_ i mean *time to try

also in recharging Thelema's Charge atk, does Basic x3 WA is the fastest way to gain stacks? or is there any other way? cuz I think you can gain 2 stacks in 1 charge Atk the same as 1 charge WA😅 correct me if im wrong. Thank you

@@lukkucchi8679 It's not the fastest way, but it deals the most DMG

Uh kinda Not perfect but could be worse

Uhhh outside of Stellar Outburst u alter WA and Basic ATK and during Stellar Outburst 3 Basics -> WA -> 3 Basics

Well, if u like Thelema way more and want to get her How's your part 1 ice team looking? In RL it has potential to even outdo the part 2 team, in Nirvana it often is a solid alternative Helia/Coralie is rlly bad ngl

My ice team is non-existent, I hadn't pulled for any limited ice dps back then at all not even HoR. Thelema will be my first ice dps, ig I'll have to cope with Helia world star synergy and Coralie just existing... I'm screwed when the weather is ice-related at all...

@@slaire6892 Relatable, my ice team doesnt exist either Thelema will save it due to Senadina But ima be honest Helia/Coralie is big coping time

It's the same for me, I hope she will do good enough damage with Helia/Coralie while we wait for Senadina rerun or better part 2 support

yea he is

I'm mainly a Honkai player, I just love Sparkle Thats why my builds are all that rushed lol, don't play HSR that much Thanks tho:)

@@Saiara_ Gottcha But u got time come and play genshin Too

@@jasonroy3814Played genshin for a while, I'm ar60 but it just got boring tbh

@@Saiara_ Ohh I see Im still 56 and have to finish my last Archon Quest

Uhhh FV, LV and FL all do well on this boss, dunno whats the exact order

Kiana foshu

Kiana

Firstly, there's no actual reason you'd have to break through but no u dont, cleared finality with Coralie on my newbie cn acc (its on my yt somewhere)

@@Saiara_ ok ok i decided to try n it wasn't as hard as i thought it to be💀

nope, im a newbie and i cleared finality as soon as i unlocked er

I guess so But Senti kinda outdated already, Flying Fish is her only boss. Hare bosses are rare too Phys just didnt get a lot of attention lately

It is worth pulling for everyone, not only new players, because it's a new generation of valks and mechanics they bring will dictate meta, also you can get their stigmatas for free. And their banners will be really long, with all those bonus supply cards and diamonds you can easily pull Senadina and probably even try pulling her weapon.

For new players definitely. It's super cheap for being a full team. Cant rlly recommend Songque tho. Helia weap is a question of your budget, but for new players it technically is an option. Sena is the important part tho.

Base Kiana Elf for sure

2* vs S? Kiana, more universal. Songque is pretty dependent on SSS (and even there shes used rarely rn)

SSS + weap, she's pretty bad in ER tbh

@@Saiara_ cool 😎

It has Total DMG taken. As Senadina has enough scaling already and Tdmg taken is a pretty rare multiplier. Core 1 also isnt completely without scaling, its just that its physical. So yeah, Sena isn't depending on the extra scaling so I prefer going for VillV1

@@Saiara_ Ohh i see thank you

If it just had time stop... Usually u use a coralie ult at the beginning of a stage, thats it tho, time consuming

yep! no issue to use FL/HTR/GD, just didnt wanna add too many rots

Hii~ This team is usually better due to the Astral Ring CD and other issues with the new trio. Trio is preferred in Astral Ring weather, HTR/LV in Symphony weather. For SD it's mostly LV/GD > VBm/VBs > HTR/GD

@@Saiara_ Ohh...i see, what is astral ring weather? is it a new weather that will come out later this patch?

@@lukkucchi8679 Yep. Patch goes Alien Guard (SD) -> Nihilius (type) -> Astral Ring weather

@@Saiara_ Last question 😅, Is senadina will cover a lot of bosses in the abyss, or like she is a must pull for the reason that she is the best SD Dps at the moment? or its okay to skip her? im planning to get Fenghuang of Vicissitude, but I heard that she is expensive to build xD Im sorry, i just want someone's opinion, because it will help me to decide. THANK YOU

@@lukkucchi8679 I just wrote a whole answer and accidentally deleted it lol... okay so 1. Senadina coverage: *abyss:* SD Alien Guard; Symphony Alien Guard; SD Guyamas, SD Ignis Stellar; Astral Ring weather; (Homu) *MA:* SSS Guyamas, CE outdoes her if Sena is below SS LOL Bosses are more liekly to appear as she's the newer Valkyrie 2. Replacements: CE can replace Senadina in most SD abysses if yours is 4/4 and you got a good SI and HRB for her. Symphony Alien Guard can also be done with p1 Trio, but if you're in Nirb I can't guarantee it'll +0, but depending on your bracket it should be possible. Astral Ring weather is just a dead ground without Senadina tbh. It's definitely possible to cope with CE for many SD abysses, but it always depends on your supports and brackets. 3. Possible new support soon It's very likely for Sena to soon get a new support. She still has one of her skills locked (says it'll unlock in future versions). Also considering the Symphony weather it'll probably be an Ice support, likely to be S rank to replace Helia. 4. Garuda coverage *abyss:* Igite/Type Parvati; Fire Rimestar; Fire HoC; (Homu); good bruteforce *MA:* SSS AKA; SSS Parvati; can do SS MA bosses 5. Price *Senadina:* max 90 pulls (valk) + max 60 pulls (weap) Sena fully works with S0SR1. *Garuda:* max 90 pulls (S0) + max 200 pulls (gears) Less likely to reach pity for gears here. Garuda really wants S2/SS though as those are big upgrades (+90/180 pulls max) Garuda was made to be pulled during her special supply in 7.2 with her special supply allowing to rank her up while getting her gears. 6. (my) Conclusion I think Sena has more benefits over Garuda as Garuda's shill is over and her special supply is gone. However, as a Hua stan I'd struggle with this option too lol. To advertise myself a lil atp, I wrote guides about both of them on HoYoLAB (Saiara_) But these are the infos you can build ur conclusion on who to get

I write Guides about how to clear HotT with trial valks to get max rewards every patch! Saiara_ on HoYoLAB Feel free to check them out! :)

1.1 - I think Senadina is definitely worth pulling. Without you'll not only heavily struggle in Astral Ring weather but also in Stardust weather. And I feel like it'll take a while until the next Stardust DPS. 1.2 - However, her ranks, syncs, Helia's weapon and Songque can be skipped honestly. Helia's weapon for those who wanna retain Nirvana should be enough as well with a well ranked Kiana ELF. Songque needs SSS to outdo 4* Kiana. However, her initial Astral Ring intensivity is a qol change at least 1.3 - For now I feel like Sena's team will very soon be optimised. Neither the LV/GD team nor the VBm/VBs team currently properly functions with her Ultimate up time lol. Also the new """Trio""" just doesn't work really well together. We also get a symphony abyss in 7.3, it's for Sena as it has SD enemies but no 3 elements ofc. So I do think we'll get an Ice support for Sena in future making her even more important 2 - I don't think it's yet sure wether every all future characters will have the Astral Ring mechanic, so I guess we'll have to see. The Astral Ring has huge issues currently, so I'd be happy if not every future char had it. It's unlikely to get an SP valk with the Astral Ring mechanic as the skill space was taken for the Astral Ring, but we also don't know if we'll even get SP valks in future

@@Saiara_ thank you so much for ur reply!

@@Tsumi784 ok try 2 bc idk what yt did no problem! shall also upload my sena guide tomorrow or the day after when I stop being too lazy to make the rank-up graphics lol

she has some sort of supportive mechanics in her stigmata that she cant currently trigger and unrevealed tag that could apear in the future probably saying that she could be a support too tho we dont know in this current moment so she could also become a dps support in the future

@@johndraws4942 she IS a support, she has 12% + 6% Ele breach in her kit for chars with the domain resonance tag. She will probably be our Astral Ring HTR for now as p1 chars cant fill the Astral Ring

CN? CN released a month ago But the patch will release tomorrow yes

I wrote some Elysian Realm Guides on HYL, Saiara_ :)

Saiara_ on HYL, I uploaded a Sena ER guide:)

seems like early game ult serves a bit better but later on falls off damage-wise heavily compared to the normal combo, so consider using ult more as a finisher for leftovers out of range like they used a couple of times when a stage already ended the usage of the ult seemed pointless but it was just in case any mob stays alive or just in case the combo wasn't enough to finish it off so instinctively used the ult as it should take least amount of time to deal high damage and animation makes a timeslow

@@sorta-7272 first didn't know how her commands work but I get used to now, even made my first guide after spending this 4 days playing her only

@@sorta-7272 Her Ultimate restores her Evasions and makes the next WA sequence a little faster tho, I feel like it really depends on ur situation

Saiara_ on HYL for buff priority and rots if u need it:)